Sumlin to OU?

[Indy Sooner]

If Stoops moves onto the NFL or otherwise?

[picasso]

So in 8 or 10 years this can happen?

[SoonerinSouthlake]

Kinda like whorns assuming Saban is chomping at the bit to leave Bama for UT. (Not comparing us to UT so dont pound me on that. Im comparing the notion that Sumlin would just jump over here because of our program prestige)

ATM may have played like a step child for 2 decades, but they are every bit as big and wealthy as UT. If his direction continues to point up, he can write his own ticket in College Station and will have no desire to go anywhere.

[picasso]

He's a great coach but they scored big with the QB they have right now. Doesn't mean they will become any kind of a power.
Just look at how successful they were after their one and only Big 12 title in '98.

[SoonerinLA]

For us to want Sumlin down the road he will ahve to be enormously successful in the SEC. If that happens he'll have his choice of jobs for college or some NFL. He would not choose OU under those circumstances.

It's only one game but most of us were unhappy to see him leave OU and felt he would be a successful head coach.

[owenfieldreams]

For us to want Sumlin down the road he will ahve to be enormously successful in the SEC. If that happens he'll have his choice of jobs for college or some NFL. He would not choose OU under those circumstances.

It's only one game but most of us were unhappy to see him leave OU and felt he would be a successful head coach.

First, if you've watched A&M at all this year, you realize that it's not all about the QB. Their D has improved dramatically. Sumlin has done a masterful job of molding this team and instilling a 4 qtr. mentality. They already had an outstanding O-line and there skill positions are very good as well. He's surrounded himself with a great young staff and their recruiting has exploded. At a point where he will have T A&M in the not too distant future, I'm not sure Sumlin would want to leave College Station for Norman.

Besides, Bob ain't going anywhere.

[stoopified]

When Bob retires in 5-6 years,Josh takes over. Duh. :)

[Jmorales22]

Biggest overreaction to one game ever....

[StoopTroup]

Jay Norvell will be...


I'm sorry...I can't even type that in jest...lol

[BajaOklahoma]

Sumlin went to Houston for the head coaching experience. And did very well with that program.
It was a given that other teams would seek him out.
He is the guy I hope will be Bob successor - and I've said that since Sumlin was at Houston.

[bluedogok]

I doubt Sumlin is going anywhere other than the NFL (if he has any interest coaching in the NFL) as long as he has success at A&M. That can be a destination job since they have the money to make it one and it is where he was an assistant when OU hired him. If he was still at Houston I could see OU hiring him if Stoops were to leave, I too would like to see him at OU if Stoops were to leave, since he is at A&M I just don't see that happening.

[King Crimson]

Biggest overreaction to one game ever....


seriously.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Stoops to the nfl, lol. Maybe Mack to the CFL.

[MyT Oklahoma]

Stoops to the nfl, lol. Maybe Mack to the CFL.

Don't even say that in jest. Let Mack be Mack (and please dear Lord, let Mack stay at UT forever).

[aero]

i agree that it would seem unlikely Sumlin would leave A&M for very many other jobs. He's sitting great for recruiting. In Texas, playing a better brand of football than UT, and playing in one of the best and most visible conferences. It wouldn't surprise me to see them challenge for a NC in a year or two.

[Fraggle145]

It wouldn't surprise me to see them challenge for a NC in a year or two.

Heh.

[soonerdo]

Why would he leave A&M?

[badger]

Why would he leave A&M?

Because aggie. Have you ever wanted to stay in college station after arrival or get out as fast as possible

[bluedogok]

He already coached there and decided to go back when he more than likely could have had other offers. Some people love the place...

[SoonerinSouthlake]

Because aggie. Have you ever wanted to stay in college station after arrival or get out as fast as possible
thats the case with lots of college towns...Including Norman, Ann Arbor, South Bend, Tuscaloosa......you get the point. All have their own charm and are in hearts of those who spend time there. Same with every city in America if you make enough friends and have enough good experiences. If he keeps winning the Aggies can and will pay him enough to stay and he'll find a way to be happy. Remember, the Aggies put their cojones on the line moving to the SEC. If things are going well they will pay tons to give the finger to the whorns. If he builds a house in College Station like Bob has built in Norman, and doesnt have to pay for a steak EVER...I think he'll be plenty happy in that crappy little town

[soonergirlNeugene]

Jury is still out on Sumlin imo, Manziel is a tremendous playmaker similar to Cam Newton @ Auburn. Of course it will be awhile before we can definitively say how much of the credit Sumlin deserves for how A&M is playing since Manziel is so young. Either way, they have to be happy about their first year of SEC play. I thought they would resemble Mizzou, but they've shown themselves to be better than advertised.

[possumfat]

That ship has sailed......................

[soonerboy_odanorth]

This thread makes me sad in my pants.

When are we going to be happy with Bob?

Why do we look to the horizon when the here and now is one of the Top 5 coaches in the game?

Why are people in a hurry to see him leave?

Why are Sooners fans so deluded that we think Bill Belichek has got Castiglione on speed dial to snatch up the job in Norman as soon as Bob decides to step aside?

*sigh*

[8timechamps]

This thread makes me sad in my pants.

When are we going to be happy with Bob?

Why do we look to the horizon when the here and now is one of the Top 5 coaches in the game?

Why are people in a hurry to see him leave?

Why are Sooners fans so deluded that we think Bill Belichek has got Castiglione on speed dial to snatch up the job in Norman as soon as Bob decides to step aside?

*sigh*

Answer to all of the above: Because some Sooner fans are a bit jaded*.


*Crazy in the head.

[VA Sooner]

Stoops won't go to the NFL... he's built that gigantic Stoops Mansion in Norman...

[SoonerinSouthlake]

This thread makes me sad in my pants.

When are we going to be happy with Bob?

Why do we look to the horizon when the here and now is one of the Top 5 coaches in the game?

Why are people in a hurry to see him leave?

Why are Sooners fans so deluded that we think Bill Belichek has got Castiglione on speed dial to snatch up the job in Norman as soon as Bob decides to step aside?

*sigh*


in response:

-if sad in pants....go try viagra

-there is NO NEED to defend Bob Stoops. He wont hear you defending him because hardware (natl title, more b12 championships than anyone else, heismans) in his ears

-We will rue the day he leaves and I fear, because if the $ he has made, it will be 10 years sooner than need be.

-Some think Belecheat, Bill Parcells or Jimmy Johnson are waiting on this job because as I said above...some are as delusional as whorn fans.

[Indy Sooner]

Why do we look to the horizon when the here and now is one of the Top 5 coaches in the game?



As much as it pains me to say, Stoops dropped out of that tier a number of years ago.

[StoopTroup]

As much as it pains me to say, Stoops dropped out of that tier a number of years ago.
Stoops with a .802 winning percentage...who are the Top 5 then?

[olevetonahill]

As much as it pains me to say, Stoops dropped out of that tier a number of years ago.

You sir are an Idiot.

[Breadburner]

This is a dumb thread....

[olevetonahill]

This is a dumb thread....

Yup

[Turd_Ferguson]

The title of this thread should be change to "I'm a ****ing moran".

[sooneredaco]

As much as it pains me to say, Stoops dropped out of that tier a number of years ago.

Delusional

[FirstandGoal]

This thread makes me sad in my pants.

When are we going to be happy with Bob?

Why do we look to the horizon when the here and now is one of the Top 5 coaches in the game?

Why are people in a hurry to see him leave?

Why are Sooners fans so deluded that we think Bill Belichek has got Castiglione on speed dial to snatch up the job in Norman as soon as Bob decides to step aside?

*sigh*

These were a lot of my initial thoughts when I saw this thread.

Seriously if you guys wanna act like Tiger Woods (beautiful wife, mother of his children, just had to go out and mess around with other women anyway) then by all means dream up scenarios where we have ______ coach.

Me, I'll enjoy the ride in the meantime.

[goingoneight]

Haha... let's see how well aTm lives up to expectations now. Remember how they were supposed to have "turned the corner" in 2006? :D

[MI Sooner]

I was disappointed when A&M hired Sumlin because chances are, if he does well enough at A&M for OU to want him, A&M would be too good of a situation to leave. It seems like coaches are increasingly hesitant to jump jobs for relatively small improvements in status (Kiffin is an exception). For OU to want Sumlin, he'd have to have A&M in the top 10 fairly consistently, which would mean OU would be, at best, only a little better, and probably not worth the risk of switching jobs.

It would be nice if we had guys with ties to the program tearing it up at schools like TTU, San Diego St., Kansas, and Houston, because those are the guys you should be able to poach without much question. As it stands, I don't see anyone out there with ties to the program who would be a serious candidate for the job. I hope Wilson does well at Indiana, or that Littrell or someone starts moving up the ranks, because as it stands now, it would appear that we'd need to reach for someone with ties or get a total outsider. Obviously, Stoops has worked out well as an outsider, but all else equal, it would be nice to have someone qualified who is familiar with the culture, the lay of the recruiting land, etc.

[olevetonahill]

OH Boy. Looks like ST has stolen another Password

Bob aint going anywhere for several years

[Sooner70]

I may be wrong, and this may be wishful thinking, but I don't see Stoops leaving OU for any other job in the foreseeable future. My guess is that his mentor, Spurrier, has already convinced him of the ills of the NFL, and if Bob had really wanted that, he probably could've went to the pros way before now. He's making toward $5MM/year now, and money really isn't the objective anymore. He's got all/more than he'll ever need. He's got a great situation, and he knows it.

I think as long as Stoops enjoys a good situation with OU's administration--Boren, Castiglione, et al--he's a Sooner. I don't see Bob peering over the fence looking for any greener pastures, as none are out there right now. That doesn't mean he won't espouse the line "......I'm always open to possibilities...." Stoops is very smart and won't tip his hand in that regard. He'll publicly keep all options open, but probably privately will take none.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Kinda like whorns assuming Saban is chomping at the bit to leave Bama for UT. (Not comparing us to UT so dont pound me on that. Im comparing the notion that Sumlin would just jump over here because of our program prestige)

ATM may have played like a step child for 2 decades, but they are every bit as big and wealthy as UT. If his direction continues to point up, he can write his own ticket in College Station and will have no desire to go anywhere.Pretty much. Due to the state loyalty issue, he could get some of those tx commits away from the cows, since aTm is also a tx school.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Because aggie. One of your most mature posts, EVAR.

[Indy Sooner]

Stoops with a .802 winning percentage...who are the Top 5 then?

I'd take Stoops' mentor at this point and if we are measuring by numbers a few quickly come to mind- Saban, Kelly (both), and Lester all have a better winning % over the past several years.

[Indy Sooner]

You sir are an Idiot.

In the eyes of you and the rest of your Stoops jock-sniffing posse, probably so.

[olevetonahill]

In the eyes of you and the rest of your Stoops jock-sniffing posse, probably so.

Dumas

[Soonerwake]

How quickly some of us forget the period between Switzer and Stoops. Saying Stoops is not a top tier coach shows that either you are jaded or just plain dumb. Winning percentage and championships are pretty hard to argue.

[OU_Sooners75]

As much as it pains me to say, Stoops dropped out of that tier a number of years ago.

What?


You're a ****ing idiot if you think Stoops isn't among the top tier of coaches in the nation.

Name one coach over the last 14 years that have more wins. A better 14 season win percentage, more conference titles, etc.

You can't.

[OU_Sooners75]

I'd take Stoops' mentor at this point and if we are measuring by numbers a few quickly come to mind- Saban, Kelly (both), and Lester all have a better winning % over the past several years.

Saban and Snyder are both among top tier coaches.

Chip Kelly? He has benefitted from what his predecessor has done. He has done very little to change that program since taking over. But then again he will be in the NFL by this time next year. He is a good coach, but I suspect he won't be a cfb coach much longer.

Brian Kelly? Why? Because he has assembled a staff that rivals what Stoops assembled in 1999? The guy is good but I would hold off a few years to place him in the top tier.

Les Miles? Hahahahaha yeah NO! He is not a top tier coach. He is just below it. He has done a good job expounding what Saban did before him though.


IMO the top tier coaches currently in college football.

Stoops
Saban
Snyder
Chip Kelly
Urban Meyer
Steve Spurrier

[Indy Sooner]

How quickly some of us forget the period between Switzer and Stoops. Saying Stoops is not a top tier coach shows that either you are jaded or just plain dumb. Winning percentage and championships are pretty hard to argue.

The reference was "Top 5". While I think Stoops is still a top-tier coach, I don't believe his work of late- would land him in most pundits' Top 5 college coach rankings. Hopefully the trend reverses course with brother Mike back on board. It will be interesting to see how things play out with the offensive coordinator duties over the medium-term.

[mainline13]

Biggest overreaction to one game ever....

I assume you are not including any of little brother's reactions to a win over us. Probably because you don't want to mix the professionals in with the amateurs.

[Scott D]

If Brian Kelly is up there based on the past few years then clearly Butch Jones needs to be there because he's won just as much at Kelly's two previous stops as Kelly did.

Chip Kelly is a confirmed recruiting violation away from being an NFL head coach.

[MI Sooner]

If Brian Kelly is up there based on the past few years then clearly Butch Jones needs to be there because he's won just as much at Kelly's two previous stops as Kelly did.

Chip Kelly is a confirmed recruiting violation away from being an NFL head coach.

So 4-8, 10-3, 7-3 is winning just as much as 12-1, 10-3, 10-3? Those are Butch Jones' and Brian Kelly's respective records over their last 3 seasons at Cincinnati. Not to mention, Cincinnati played better competition under Kelly, at least in bowls. I think their records at CMU were closer, and maybe Jones had the better winning percentage. That said, Jones took over programs that were winning, and Kelly didn't.

[Scott D]

So 4-8, 10-3, 7-3 is winning just as much as 12-1, 10-3, 10-3? Those are Butch Jones' and Brian Kelly's respective records over their last 3 seasons at Cincinnati. Not to mention, Cincinnati played better competition under Kelly, at least in bowls. I think their records at CMU were closer, and maybe Jones had the better winning percentage. That said, Jones took over programs that were winning, and Kelly didn't.

shhh quit using logic and reason, this thread has no place for it. :D

[SoonerNutt]

First, if you've watched A&M at all this year, you realize that it's not all about the QB. Their D has improved dramatically. Sumlin has done a masterful job of molding this team and instilling a 4 qtr. mentality. They already had an outstanding O-line and there skill positions are very good as well. He's surrounded himself with a great young staff and their recruiting has exploded. At a point where he will have T A&M in the not too distant future, I'm not sure Sumlin would want to leave College Station for Norman.

Besides, Bob ain't going anywhere.

Funny how that works when you move to the SEC. All of a sudden, your D "improves". Offenses in that conference are a joke, particularly this season.

[agoo758]

Saban and Snyder are both among top tier coaches.

Chip Kelly? He has benefitted from what his predecessor has done. He has done very little to change that program since taking over. But then again he will be in the NFL by this time next year. He is a good coach, but I suspect he won't be a cfb coach much longer.

Brian Kelly? Why? Because he has assembled a staff that rivals what Stoops assembled in 1999? The guy is good but I would hold off a few years to place him in the top tier.

Les Miles? Hahahahaha yeah NO! He is not a top tier coach. He is just below it. He has done a good job expounding what Saban did before him though.


IMO the top tier coaches currently in college football.

Stoops
Saban
Snyder
Chip Kelly
Urban Meyer
Steve Spurrier

Chip Kelly inhereted an above average team who never competed for a NC under Belotti outside of the Dennis Dixon year and turned them into yearly NC contendors.

Stoops was the best coach in the country from 1999-2004.

From 2005 on he is barely in the top ten.