Obama's Ring

[MountainOkie]

Obama's been wearing a strange ring on his left hand since the early 1980s, before he was married. He's continued to wear it since his marriage to Michelle. It also bears some strange characters.

Why did he wear this ring? Did he want to scare off women when he wasn't married?

The article below provides a fascinating and disturbing explanation.

It's a relatively long article dependent on pictures so please use the link:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

I understand the site is partisan, so I assume the democrats here will attack it on that ground, but I'd be interested to hear any additional arguments you guys have on this issue. Thanks.

[yermom]

it couldn't have been a family thing

does wearing a cross convey the same devoutness this article is describing?

[Soonerjeepman]

although I do believe he is very muslim friendly and even maybe a closet muslim..I don't see the second inscription at all.

The question of the direction this country is taking towards that "faith" is more important to me.

[Soonerjeepman]

it couldn't have been a family thing

does wearing a cross convey the same devoutness this article is describing?

it's weird to see porn folks, amateur or not wearing a cross while they are buck naked...not that I see a lot ;-)

along the same lines...unfortunately The Rosary is now a piece of jewelry that non-Catholics wear...and yes that does bother me, for it shows no "respect" for my faith...that I MUST give to other faiths. Don't want to be accused of a "hate crime".

[badger]

Obama started wearing the ring publicly when nobody bought his explanation that he did not need to wear the ring on his finger, when he personally felt that he wore the ring in his heart. :P

[rock on sooner]

Ya gotta admit, those on the Right do not give up...prolly funded
by Trump...

[Skysooner]

although I do believe he is very muslim friendly and even maybe a closet muslim..I don't see the second inscription at all.

The question of the direction this country is taking towards that "faith" is more important to me.

Honestly I don't think I could attend a Christian church for 20 years if I was a Muslim. It was hard enough for me to get up and go even when I did identify myself as a Christian.

[MountainOkie]

I'm not going to argue one way or another if it reads the way the article says it reads.

What doesn't add up is why a man wears a gold ring on his left hand for 10-15 years before he gets married. It makes no sense.

[LiveLaughLove]

Honestly I don't think I could attend a Christian church for 20 years if I was a Muslim. It was hard enough for me to get up and go even when I did identify myself as a Christian.
His Christian pastor says Obama asked him if there was any way he could attend the church and still remain a muslim. To his credit, Wright said no.

The people of Trinity church say the Obamas go to church there for purely political reasons. It is well known that neither Barrack or Michelle are religious to any extent at all.

Under those circumstances it wouldn't be that hard to stay a muslim and yet go to church there for 20 years.

Having said that, I don't think the ring is a big deal at all if it says it or not. I don't believe Obama is a muslim or a Christian. I think he is an agnostic that uses religion for political reasons.

"You will know them by their fruits" His fruit is not Christian fruit. I don't think it's muslim fruit either. I think it's just rotten fruit.

[MountainOkie]

Well, I take that back I may start to argue that it does read "there is only one god and his name is allah."

Now another expert, a Duke Professor, advises that is how it reads.


Knowing that these elements were at play, TheBlaze decided to speak with experts at some of America’s leading universities. One academic, a professor at Duke University, provided a candid assessment, but asked to remain off-the-record. Based on the images and analysis present in the WND report, he said that the script present on Obama’s ring appears to be Arabic and that it does, indeed, include the first portion of the shahada.

“I think this is accurate,” he said of the description surrounding the ring.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-obamas-mystery-ring-really-have-there-is-no-god-except-allah-inscribed-in-arabic/

[cleller]

If the President of the USA is wearing a ring that says "There is no God but Allah", I find that weird, and non-traditional in a negative sense.

[MountainOkie]

"You will know them by their fruits" His fruit is not Christian fruit. I don't think it's muslim fruit either. I think it's just rotten fruit.

He supported the "arab spring" and bombed Libya.

[LiveLaughLove]

He supported the "arab spring".

I certainly think his sympathies are with muslims. His UN speech was very much so "the future is not for those that would insult the prophet of allah". He threw the video maker under the bus, so that now that person is a marked man.

He grew up muslim, so there is no doubt he empathizes and sympathizes with them. I just don't think he is a religious person over all.. outside of looking in the mirror.

[Midtowner]

As to the video maker, how was he thrown under the bus? He was on probation and he violated his probation plain as day. You can speak publicly all you want, but part of freedom is being accountable for what you do.

As to the email forward, Snopes didn't take long.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

And there's this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obamas-romneys-leave-healthy-food-home/story?id=16558956#1

Kenny's BBQ Smokehouse
Who went: President Obama

When he visited: June 13, 2012

What he ordered: spicy pork ribs, collard greens, red beans and rice, and a corn muffin.

Why he went: Obama celebrated Father's Day a few days early, chowing down on barbeque-sauce-covered ribs and collard greens with two active-duty Army members and two local barbers. The lunch was part of the White House's "Fatherhood Buzz" campaign to encourage positive parenting this Father's Day.

[Skysooner]

Honestly I don't think I could attend a Christian church for 20 years if I was a Muslim. It was hard enough for me to get up and go even when I did identify myself as a Christian.
His Christian pastor says Obama asked him if there was any way he could attend the church and still remain a muslim. To his credit, Wright said no.

The people of Trinity church say the Obamas go to church there for purely political reasons. It is well known that neither Barrack or Michelle are religious to any extent at all.

Under those circumstances it wouldn't be that hard to stay a muslim and yet go to church there for 20 years.

Having said that, I don't think the ring is a big deal at all if it says it or not. I don't believe Obama is a muslim or a Christian. I think he is an agnostic that uses religion for political reasons.

"You will know them by their fruits" His fruit is not Christian fruit. I don't think it's muslim fruit either. I think it's just rotten fruit.

I would agree about the agnostic part. It turned out that way for me after regular attendance for almost 20 years after high school. The seeds were there long ago, but it took me awhile to see it.

[MountainOkie]

As to the email forward, Snopes didn't take long.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

Looking at the photo of the ring from the article (can't get it to load here):

What's the shiny crud on his finger?

And the gold over the top half looks weird.

[LiveLaughLove]

As to the video maker, how was he thrown under the bus? He was on probation and he violated his probation plain as day. You can speak publicly all you want, but part of freedom is being accountable for what you do.

As to the email forward, Snopes didn't take long.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

And there's this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obamas-romneys-leave-healthy-food-home/story?id=16558956#1

Kenny's BBQ Smokehouse
Who went: President Obama

When he visited: June 13, 2012

What he ordered: spicy pork ribs, collard greens, red beans and rice, and a corn muffin.

Why he went: Obama celebrated Father's Day a few days early, chowing down on barbeque-sauce-covered ribs and collard greens with two active-duty Army members and two local barbers. The lunch was part of the White House's "Fatherhood Buzz" campaign to encourage positive parenting this Father's Day.
He blamed the video and it's maker for all of the rioting in the ME and for the death of our Ambassador. We all know that to be bunk now, and it is becoming quite clear that he knew it himself in just a few hours.

Yet, he still insisted on accusing the video and it's maker. The muslims will kill the guy if they can. No one had seen the video, in fact, the trailer of the video up to that point and time.

Do you really think they would have arrested the guy had it not been for the video? The judge in his hearing the other day asked him about the video. Why? His probation had nothing to do with the video.

I think that would classify as being thrown under the bus. Don't get me wrong, I am not championing this guy. I don't know a thing about him. But I do know about Obama, and he will stop at nothing to win this election.

Keep your eyes open for a wag the dog scenario soon, when he can't make up the poll differences. Iran, anyone? Lybian retribution maybe? Whatever it takes.

[hawaii 5-0]

25 years from now Donald Trump and Karl 'Elmer Fudd' Rove will still be trying in vain to rewrite history.

5-0

[MountainOkie]

As to the email forward, Snopes didn't take long.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

Finally got it to load. Here is the snopes close up. I had to download it and host on imageshack to get the thing to load on the forum:

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/1787/obamaring.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/obamaring.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Do gold rings normally flake off on someones finger like that? Or does "the one" just have an odd effect on metals.

[KABOOKIE]

I believe it's his secret society of the Ignorati ring.

[8timechamps]

I don't think Obama is a good president, but I do think he is an intelligent man. Ask yourself, why would an intelligent man, trying to win a re-election, who has also denied rumors that he is muslim, openly wear a symbol that claims there is only one God, and it's Allah? He wouldn't. The whole thing is a stretch.

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

I believe it's his secret society of the Ignorati ring.

i hear they are a very dangerous bunch the Ignorati....everytime they speak you actually forget basic math functions. probably why so many people believe the UE numbers from last week

[hawaii 5-0]

It's a Symbol Ring.

It means he likes Strawberry syrup with sprinkles over cherry pecan ice cream.

5-0

[MountainOkie]

I don't think Obama is a good president, but I do think he is an intelligent man. Ask yourself, why would an intelligent man, trying to win a re-election, who has also denied rumors that he is muslim, openly wear a symbol that claims there is only one God, and it's Allah? He wouldn't. The whole thing is a stretch.

For the same reason he gave the finger to Hillary Clinton in a nationally televised debate.

[cleller]

I don't think Obama is a good president, but I do think he is an intelligent man. Ask yourself, why would an intelligent man, trying to win a re-election, who has also denied rumors that he is muslim, openly wear a symbol that claims there is only one God, and it's Allah? He wouldn't. The whole thing is a stretch.


Maybe that's exactly what he EXPECTS us to think?

[8timechamps]

Hey, if you think Obama is a closet muslim, I can respect that you have an opinion. I just happen to think that's nonsense. I did not, and will not vote for the guy, but it has nothing to do with a muslin conspiracy.

[Mississippi Sooner]

We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious.

[Midtowner]

He blamed the video and it's maker for all of the rioting in the ME and for the death of our Ambassador. We all know that to be bunk now, and it is becoming quite clear that he knew it himself in just a few hours.

Yet, he still insisted on accusing the video and it's maker. The muslims will kill the guy if they can. No one had seen the video, in fact, the trailer of the video up to that point and time.

Not sure what this has to do with a ring, but okay...


Do you really think they would have arrested the guy had it not been for the video? The judge in his hearing the other day asked him about the video. Why? His probation had nothing to do with the video.

Totally off-topic, but I'll bite. The Obama administration had nothing to do with this. He was already on probation for being some sort of internet fraudster. Part of his sentence involved staying off of the internet. When he produces a video and releases it to Youtube, it doesn't take the FBI to figure out that he violated his probation.


Keep your eyes open for a wag the dog scenario soon, when he can't make up the poll differences. Iran, anyone? Lybian retribution maybe? Whatever it takes.

So you think that if he has a chance to capture/kill Al Qaeda in Libya, he should wait until after the election? LOL.

[Midtowner]

Do gold rings normally flake off on someones finger like that? Or does "the one" just have an odd effect on metals.

I'm looking at the same picture you are. How can you determine that's gold flake and not just the color of his skin? Or maybe magic obamadust?

[MountainOkie]

I'm looking at the same picture you are. How can you determine that's gold flake and not just the color of his skin? Or maybe magic obamadust?

I'm looking at the picture too, from your source I would add. There is shiny crud on the finger near the ring. If you have an explanation for it I'd be happy to hear it.

Also, if you have an explanation for why Mr. Obama wore a gold ring on his left hand for 10-15 (shown in photos from the New Yorker magazine) years before he was married I would be happy to hear that too.

[MountainOkie]

Hey, if you think Obama is a closet muslim, I can respect that you have an opinion. I just happen to think that's nonsense. I did not, and will not vote for the guy, but it has nothing to do with a muslin conspiracy.

I'm just outlining the argument more than anything right now. To see what there is more than anything. Because there are discrepancies with this ring which are annoying me and that I still haven't gotten an answer too (shown in my last post to Midtowner). This guy with WND has a theory I'm testing it out against the democrat element in this board. I'd like to see what comes back and what they really think.

So far I haven't gotten anything substantial, just the same old "peanut gallery" stuff.

I would say that you provided a nice argument based on Obama being an intelligent man and as President an intelligent man wouldn't wear that. The argument's fine I provided something against it. Namely, that aspects of his character sometimes seem to cause him to do let's say less than intelligent things. We could go on from there.

But what I would really like is an explanation or new theory for these other discrepancies.

[diverdog]

I'm just outlining the argument more than anything right now. To see what there is more than anything. Because there are discrepancies with this ring which are annoying me and that I still haven't gotten an answer too (shown in my last post to Midtowner). This guy with WND has a theory I'm testing it out against the democrat element in this board. I'd like to see what comes back and what they really think.

So far I haven't gotten anything substantial, just the same old "peanut gallery" stuff..

Did you guys ever think for a minute his dad gave him the ring and he wears it for sentimental value?

[Midtowner]

Here's another close up of the ring... He has been heard referring to it as "my precious."

http://willdo.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/021406ring.jpg

[Mississippi Sooner]

One ring to rule them all.

[MountainOkie]

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Did you guys ever think for a minute his dad gave him the ring and he wears it for sentimental value?

Thank you for providing a reason. Great.

Now, why would he wear it on his left hand when he was single.

[cleller]

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Did you guys ever think for a minute his dad gave him the ring and he wears it for sentimental value?

"Here ya go, Barack. That is your name, right? You'd think I could remember that, hey? My, you sure must have grown alot, I mean I suppose you have, you know what I mean."

What a sentimental first and last visit that must have been. Enough to write a whole book about.

[Skysooner]

Thank you for providing a reason. Great.

Now, why would he wear it on his left hand when he was single.

Because guys that are married get more action at bars.....

[MountainOkie]

Because guys that are married get more action at bars.....

Funny, but technically a reason too. So thank you.

[diverdog]

Thank you for providing a reason. Great.

Now, why would he wear it on his left hand when he was single.

I wore a claddagh ring on my left finger for years. I also wear my watch on my right hand. Just a personal preference.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I wore a claddagh ring on my left finger for years. I also wear my watch on my right hand. Just a personal preference.

I don't trust you. You're probably a damn moosl'n just making excuses for your boy...

[Skysooner]

Funny, but technically a reason too. So thank you.

Lots of truth in it. I had to stop wearing my wedding ring when I was working a week a month in Midland and would go out. It is like a magnet.

[diverdog]

I don't trust you. You're probably a damn moosl'n just making excuses for your boy...

Nope. There is a practical reason for wearing my watch on my right hand. I started doing it when I was wreck diving and wanted to be able to read my watch and gauges on the same arm. That was before the integrated dive consoles. I also kept my compass on my left arm. Your left hand is also used for the inflator hose. Most hard core divers wear watches on their right hand. It is a tradition started by elite military dive units and transferred over to the civilian world of deep diving and wreck penetration divers.

Research a Claddagh ring. It can be worn as a wedding ring or a friendship ring.

[MountainOkie]

I wore a claddagh ring on my left finger for years. I also wear my watch on my right hand. Just a personal preference.

Okay, just to get this straight, you were a single man and you wore a ring like this:

http://www.colonialjewelers.com/wp-content/uploads/Claddagh-Ring-300x221.jpg

on the ring finger of your left hand.

[diverdog]

Okay, just to get this straight, you were a single man and you wore a ring like this:

http://www.colonialjewelers.com/wp-content/uploads/Claddagh-Ring-300x221.jpg

on the ring finger of your left hand.


Mine is gold and yes I wore it. The heart faces out if you are single. Mostly the Irish wear it. It is usually given to you by a female. The design dates back to Roman times. And yes women like it.

[MountainOkie]

Mine is gold and yes I wore it. The heart faces out if you are single. Mostly the Irish wear it. It is usually given to you by a female. The design dates back to Roman times.

:shrug: Okay, no worries.

I would just say I've never encountered that anywhere before in my life here in America and my mother's family are full blood Irish descended from County Kerry folk. I guess there are men who are more comfortable wearing jewelry than the ones I've known. Different strokes for different folks.

You say it's usually given to you by a female, was this one given to you by a female?

[diverdog]

:shrug: Okay, no worries.

I would just say I've never encountered that anywhere before in my life here in America and my mother's family are full blood Irish descended from County Kerry folk. I guess there are men who are more comfortable wearing jewelry than the ones I've known. Different strokes for different folks.

You say it's usually given to you by a female, was this one given to you by a female?

Yes. The one I currently wear was given to me by my wife when we were dating. I had another one given to me by a woman I dated before meeting my wife. I was cutting firewood in really cold temps and it fell of and I never noticed it. I told her I lost it and she was furious. In retrospect I should have replaced it and never told her. Would have saved me an *** chewing.

I do not wear much jewelry and on weekends I will not wear the rings if I am doing work.

[MountainOkie]

Yes. The one I currently wear was given to me by my wife when we were dating. I had another one given to me by a woman I dated before meeting my wife. I was cutting firewood in really cold temps and it fell of and I never noticed it. I told her I lost it and she was furious. In retrospect I should have replaced it and never told her. Would have saved me an *** chewing.

I do not wear much jewelry and on weekends I will not wear the rings if I am doing work.

Sounds like you learned something about her though through losing it.

So, in your experience, in these two instances it was sort of like a promise ring?

[diverdog]

Sounds like you learned something about her though through losing it.

So, in your experience, in these two instances it was sort of like a promise ring?

Yes. In return for some poontang on the side. :)