Proven! The Socialist sends form letter to fallen soldier families

[TheHumanAlphabet]

The piece of crap man sends out form letters to grieving families... (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/confirmed-obama-sent-same-form-letter-to-parents-of-all-fallen-soldiers-marines-seals/)

Yet manages a personal letter to Heavy-D's family. What a contemptuous a$$!

Bush sent personal letters...

[C&CDean]

Well to be fair, there's a lot more boys dying than when Bush was prez...

Just one more selfish act by the megalomaniac.

[Midtowner]

And to be fair, what is the history of presidents writing personal letters to the families of the fallen?

I'm aware that Abraham Lincoln once wrote the mother of a family which lost five sons in the civil war. Aside from that, whatcha got?

Made up bullsiht issue? Sounds like it.

[Skysooner]

Most used form letters. Bush did apparently write 4000 personal letters to 9/11 victims families and war casualties.

[olevetonahill]

And to be fair, what is the history of presidents writing personal letters to the families of the fallen?

I'm aware that Abraham Lincoln once wrote the mother of a family which lost five sons in the civil war. Aside from that, whatcha got?

Made up bullsiht issue? Sounds like it.

How is it "Made up"?
Oh thats right Obammy DIDNT send em , Didnt even sign em did he?
No Some staff puke in the whitehouse basement printed em out and at the most used a Sig Stamp

[Skysooner]

And to be fair, what is the history of presidents writing personal letters to the families of the fallen?

I'm aware that Abraham Lincoln once wrote the mother of a family which lost five sons in the civil war. Aside from that, whatcha got?

Made up bullsiht issue? Sounds like it.

How is it "Made up"?
Oh thats right Obammy DIDNT send em , Didnt even sign em did he?
No Some staff puke in the whitehouse basement printed em out and at the most used a Sig Stamp

They are saying Obama did sign them personally. They aren't disputing the form letter. Bush apparently did both personal and form and previous Presidents use form letters.

I think what Midtowner is alluding to is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama without all of the minor stuff so why mention it. Lots and lots of rhetoric gets thrown around that is form letter propaganda that is designed to get a response. This is why we bring up the faux rage thing.

[diverdog]

The piece of crap man sends out form letters to grieving families... (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/confirmed-obama-sent-same-form-letter-to-parents-of-all-fallen-soldiers-marines-seals/)

Yet manages a personal letter to Heavy-D's family. What a contemptuous a$$!

Bush sent personal letters...

To be honest with you....so what. The expectation that the President write the family of every dead soldier is unreasonable. Do you think FDR wrote to all the families of soldiers that died on DDay?

[pphilfran]

To be honest with you....so what. The expectation that the President write the family of every dead soldier is unreasonable. Do you think FDR wrote to all the families of soldiers that died on DDay?

Sure he did...messed him up so bad he ended up hardly being able to stand...

[okie52]

Sure he did...messed him up so bad he ended up hardly being able to stand...

LOL...and it killed him too.

[C&CDean]

Comparing a president serving while we're at war where 10's to 100's of troops are dying daily/weekly to the one serving during this effed up war on terror is dumb. Ain't that right Midtowner? Besides, without your beloved media, we wouldn't know any of this ****.

[yermom]

Most used form letters. Bush did apparently write 4000 personal letters to 9/11 victims families and war casualties.

how personal were they?

[olevetonahill]

They are saying Obama did sign them personally. They aren't disputing the form letter. Bush apparently did both personal and form and previous Presidents use form letters.

I think what Midtowner is alluding to is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama without all of the minor stuff so why mention it. Lots and lots of rhetoric gets thrown around that is form letter propaganda that is designed to get a response. This is why we bring up the faux rage thing.

Ill bet 100 bucks those aint real Sigs. They both look identical. Thats a Sig Stamp

[pphilfran]

They are different...look at the loop at the bottom of the B

[KABOOKIE]

Most used form letters. Bush did apparently write 400 personal letters to 9/11 victims families and war casualties.

how personal were they?

He could have just wrote, "Sorry." It was the thought that counts. :r

[yermom]

meh.

what would you really expect from someone you don't personally know?

i'm more offended by the notion that God is comforting them ;)

[Midtowner]

Comparing a president serving while we're at war where 10's to 100's of troops are dying daily/weekly to the one serving during this effed up war on terror is dumb. Ain't that right Midtowner? Besides, without your beloved media, we wouldn't know any of this ****.

I'm comparing Obama to all presidents prior. As to the claim that Bush personally wrote all of the 9/11 victims, there's quite a bit of conflicting information there. In fact, in 2003, Newsweek published that Bush's letters were identical save for the salutation and the name of the victim--that's a form letter for you Oklahoma State graduates. Rumsfeld himself confirmed he used an autopen. Prior to that, I doubt there's much evidence at all that any wartime president ever did any of this.

So what's the excuse for suddenly raising the bar?

Faux rage.

This makes you all look foolish.

[C&CDean]

I'm comparing Obama to all presidents prior. As to the claim that Bush personally wrote all of the 9/11 victims, there's quite a bit of conflicting information there. In fact, in 2003, Newsweek published that Bush's letters were identical save for the salutation and the name of the victim--that's a form letter for you Oklahoma State graduates. Rumsfeld himself confirmed he used an autopen. Prior to that, I doubt there's much evidence at all that any wartime president ever did any of this.

So what's the excuse for suddenly raising the bar?

Faux rage.

This makes you all look foolish.

No, it's because we're all racist homophobes. Keep the **** up.

And Bush couldn't spell "auto-pen." I'm wondering if that's anything like Rita Skeeter's acid green quick quotes quill.

[Midtowner]

No, it's because we're all racist homophobes. Keep the **** up.

You said it, not me.


And Bush couldn't spell "auto-pen." I'm wondering if that's anything like Rita Skeeter's acid green quick quotes quill.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you weren't too outraged when Donald Rumsfeld used an autopen.

[C&CDean]

Oh, Rummy used it? Well he's certainly sharp enough to do that.

[Midtowner]

Former CEO of GE. I'm sure he's a pretty bright guy.

The point is, this is a dumb issue. To keep bringing it up is dumb. This is made up outrage. Next you'll be going after the President because he ties granny knots instead of square knots.

[SouthCarolinaSooner]

No, it's because we're all racist homophobes. Keep the **** up.

So you're wrong, and instead of admitting it like a man, you come back with a red herring. *slow clap*

Obama has a lot of real problems y'all could be validly criticizing him for, yet you stoop to something ridiculous like this.

[C&CDean]

Former CEO of GE. I'm sure he's a pretty bright guy.

The point is, this is a dumb issue. To keep bringing it up is dumb. This is made up outrage. Next you'll be going after the President because he ties granny knots instead of square knots.

You crack me up. This president gets shot full of holes on damn near every thing he touches. Besides "actually pulling the trigger on Osama" exactly wtf has your boy done besides screw the pooch? Then, he gets called on it and every time you and yours go "is that all you got? You ain't got nothing better than that? Well Bush/Reagan/Eisenhower/Truman/Roosevelt did it/didn't do it. Blah blah blah. Y'all got a paper sack full of horse **** and you act like it's a bag of gold. Obama is a mega-POS on so many counts; yet you defend him on every turn.

I don't get it. The guy's a schmo. Just admit it and stop propping his limp dick up constantly.

[Midtowner]

You crack me up. This president gets shot full of holes on damn near every thing he touches. Besides "actually pulling the trigger on Osama" exactly wtf has your boy done besides screw the pooch? Then, he gets called on it and every time you and yours go "is that all you got? You ain't got nothing better than that? Well Bush/Reagan/Eisenhower/Truman/Roosevelt did it/didn't do it. Blah blah blah. Y'all got a paper sack full of horse **** and you act like it's a bag of gold. Obama is a mega-POS on so many counts; yet you defend him on every turn.

I don't get it. The guy's a schmo. Just admit it and stop propping his limp dick up constantly.

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying the issue itself is idiotic. Bring something up where he has actually screwed the pooch and we can talk. This one doesn't even make it out of the gate.

[C&CDean]

So you're wrong, and instead of admitting it like a man, you come back with a red herring. *slow clap*

Obama has a lot of real problems y'all could be validly criticizing him for, yet you stoop to something ridiculous like this.

Who was talking to you little comrade? Yes, Obama is loaded with problems. Up to his flappy monkey ears. And what is it I'm wrong about? If I were, I'd admit it. Like a man. Hell, I was 40 over 15 years ago. And I didn't stoop to anything. You see my name at the top of the thread? That's what I thought.

[SouthCarolinaSooner]

You ain't got nothing better than that? Well Bush/Reagan/Eisenhower/Truman/Roosevelt did it/didn't do it. Blah blah blah.

Precedent in formal matters like this is actually quite important in the presidency. Hell, if he wrote personalized letters you'd probably be criticizing him for pandering to these families, since he never actually knew the service members himself.


Who was talking to you little comrade? Yes, Obama is loaded with problems. Up to his flappy monkey ears. And what is it I'm wrong about? If I were, I'd admit it. Like a man. Hell, I was 40 over 15 years ago. And I didn't stoop to anything. You see my name at the top of the thread? That's what I thought.
So not only are you an idiot, you're racist. This is great!

[Midtowner]

Just to provide context for C&C, he might not realize that calling a black person (or even a half-black person) a monkey or associating any sort of monkey-anything with them is considered racist. It used to be a widely held opinion that blacks were just a higher form of ape life. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as to whether he intended to be racist or whether he was just attempting to troll. Of course he might surprise us and admit that he doesn't like a ni***r in the White House. We'll see.

[C&CDean]

Precedent in formal matters like this is actually quite important in the presidency. Hell, if he wrote personalized letters you'd probably be criticizing him for pandering to these families, since he never actually knew the service members himself.

Only if he wrote them to the brothers and mulattos and left out the white boys. Then I'd be pissed as hell. :rolleyes/:

And please spare me the lecture about precedent little grasshoppah. You are so far from snatching the pebble you should just resign yourself to saying "yes sir" and "no sir" in matters that involve adult discussion. You are a wannabe sicem with the difference being that sicem actually represents himself intelligently/cogently - even if some of his stances/positions are jacked all to hell. You just try and start ****. You sure you ain't a chick?

[SouthCarolinaSooner]

Only if he wrote them to the brothers and mulattos and left out the white boys. Then I'd be pissed as hell. :rolleyes/:

And please spare me the lecture about precedent little grasshoppah. You are so far from snatching the pebble you should just resign yourself to saying "yes sir" and "no sir" in matters that involve adult discussion. You are a wannabe sicem with the difference being that sicem actually represents himself intelligently/cogently - even if some of his stances/positions are jacked all to hell. You just try and start ****. You sure you ain't a chick?
I won't waste my time to write a cogent response to this thread because its incredibly ****ing retarded. Only knuckle-dragging partisan hacks would find this to be an actual issue.

[C&CDean]

Just to provide context for C&C, he might not realize that calling a black person (or even a half-black person) a monkey or associating any sort of monkey-anything with them is considered racist. It used to be a widely held opinion that blacks were just a higher form of ape life. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as to whether he intended to be racist or whether he was just attempting to troll. Of course he might surprise us and admit that he doesn't like a ni***r in the White House. We'll see.

You see, IDGAS what you liberals deem as "racist." You're so far out of touch your opinion means nothing on this matter. Obama looks like Curious George. You can't deny it. Just like Bush looks like Alfred E Neuman. Who cares if eons ago people thought black folk were monkeys or not? You're going there, not me. I'd recommend getting over it.

[C&CDean]

I won't waste my time to write a cogent response to this thread because its incredibly ****ing retarded. Only knuckle-dragging partisan hacks would find this to be an actual issue.

So you're wrong and you can't admit it like a real man so you resort to lame-assed canned retorts. Meh.

[Midtowner]

You see, IDGAS what you liberals deem as "racist." You're so far out of touch your opinion means nothing on this matter. Obama looks like Curious George. You can't deny it. Just like Bush looks like Alfred E Neuman. Who cares if eons ago people thought black folk were monkeys or not? You're going there, not me. I'd recommend getting over it.

You can't control how people perceive you except by what you say and do. If you want to make those sorts of observations, some folks, right or wrong are going to perceive that as racism. As far as monkey/curious George...

http://bush.nofate.com/bush/!%20Curious%20George%20W%20Bush%20comedy%20%281%29 .jpg

That should be game/set/match.

The point--and SCSooner and I are consistent is that this is a non-issue. It's made up. Only those who are peering through the spectacles of heavy cognitive dissonance are going to think there's anything to this whatsoever. I'm not sure about all of that formal etiquette and precedence stuff, but I am sure that this is a completely made up/non/bullsiht issue.

[cleller]

You can't control how people perceive you except by what you say and do. If you want to make those sorts of observations, some folks, right or wrong are going to perceive that as racism. As far as monkey/curious George...

http://bush.nofate.com/bush/!%20Curious%20George%20W%20Bush%20comedy%20%281%29 .jpg

That should be game/set/match.

The point--and SCSooner and I are consistent is that this is a non-issue. It's made up. Only those who are peering through the spectacles of heavy cognitive dissonance are going to think there's anything to this whatsoever. I'm not sure about all of that formal etiquette and precedence stuff, but I am sure that this is a completely made up/non/bullsiht issue.

None of those pics are actually of Curious George.

[C&CDean]

You can't control how people perceive you except by what you say and do. If you want to make those sorts of observations, some folks, right or wrong are going to perceive that as racism. As far as monkey/curious George...

http://bush.nofate.com/bush/!%20Curious%20George%20W%20Bush%20comedy%20%281%29 .jpg

That should be game/set/match.

The point--and SCSooner and I are consistent is that this is a non-issue. It's made up. Only those who are peering through the spectacles of heavy cognitive dissonance are going to think there's anything to this whatsoever. I'm not sure about all of that formal etiquette and precedence stuff, but I am sure that this is a completely made up/non/bullsiht issue.

Dude, I feel sorry for you. Your mom never read you Curious George. Obviously. You see, CG was a fictional character. Who was like...curious and stuff. Oh never mind.

[olevetonahill]

Its great sometimes to just sit back and watch Dean at work with the village idiots:tears_of_joy:

[OU_Sooners75]

Just to provide context for C&C, he might not realize that calling a black person (or even a half-black person) a monkey or associating any sort of monkey-anything with them is considered racist. It used to be a widely held opinion that blacks were just a higher form of ape life. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as to whether he intended to be racist or whether he was just attempting to troll. Of course he might surprise us and admit that he doesn't like a ni***r in the White House. We'll see.

Oh lord...here goes one of the whitest white guys talking about someone being a racist.

STFU!


Oh, and ask my 14 year old son, being interracial and all, if he sees monkey as racism. He will flat out trll you that it would depend on the context of the wording.

Hell my black neighbor called me a monkey the other day, and I laughed. Of course knowing it was a joke.

And I'm white.

[OU_Sooners75]

I won't waste my time to write a cogent response to this thread because its incredibly ****ing retarded. Only knuckle-dragging partisan hacks would find this to be an actual issue.


So why did you write (actually type) a response?

[8timechamps]

People like Mid are the same people that picked out every tiny thing George W did and picked it apart, reminding us the entire time how stupid he was. When the shoe is on the other foot, it's a non-starter and idiotic to even be mentioned! Please. Let's not act like this is conduct becoming Republicans only.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

They are saying Obama did sign them personally. They aren't disputing the form letter. Bush apparently did both personal and form and previous Presidents use form letters.

I think what Midtowner is alluding to is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama without all of the minor stuff so why mention it. Lots and lots of rhetoric gets thrown around that is form letter propaganda that is designed to get a response. This is why we bring up the faux rage thing.

i doubt it. Looks like an autopen machine. The sig is too identical.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

To be honest with you....so what. The expectation that the President write the family of every dead soldier is unreasonable. Do you think FDR wrote to all the families of soldiers that died on DDay?
Different time, cables were sent. I think i could write and sign 2000+ letters over 3.5 years.

He managed a personal letter to rapper Heavy D's family after he died. To The Socialist rapper >>>>>> soldier/sailor/airman.

[soonercruiser]

How is it "Made up"?
Oh thats right Obammy DIDNT send em , Didnt even sign em did he?
No Some staff puke in the whitehouse basement printed em out and at the most used a Sig Stamp

Mid is Obama's person press secretary on the Forum.
Every time someone points out what a horrible self-centerd person Obama is, Mid will come up with a defense.

Personal Letters???
Huh!
I got me some money to raise and palms to grease. Too busy!

Kinda makes me wonder if Obama and Hillary wanted our Ambassador in Libya dead.

[soonercruiser]

You can't control how people perceive you except by what you say and do. If you want to make those sorts of observations, some folks, right or wrong are going to perceive that as racism. As far as monkey/curious George...

http://bush.nofate.com/bush/!%20Curious%20George%20W%20Bush%20comedy%20%281%29 .jpg

That should be game/set/match.

The point--and SCSooner and I are consistent is that this is a non-issue. It's made up. Only those who are peering through the spectacles of heavy cognitive dissonance are going to think there's anything to this whatsoever. I'm not sure about all of that formal etiquette and precedence stuff, but I am sure that this is a completely made up/non/bullsiht issue.

Racist, Mid!
You calling that monkey names!
:shame:

[soonercruiser]

Its great sometimes to just sit back and watch Dean at work with the village idiots:tears_of_joy:

Somebody is feeling thier Wheaties (or grain of some type) this afternoon!

[olevetonahill]

Racist, Mid!
You calling that monkey names!
:shame:

Im still confused as to why Mid was Posting Pics of W and then one of Obammy another of W then one of Michele over an over.

[LiveLaughLove]

I heard the father interviewed today. His beef was not so much the letter, but that it was 4 months before he got around to sending it to the family.

4 months later, the family was starting to get back to as normal of an existence as you can, and then bam! heres Obama's form letter finally showing up to open all of it up again. The military commanders sent theirs to the family within a few days.

For the record, Bush wrote many personal letters, and has visited with many many more families. He still visits with families of soldiers and marines killed even to this day. He just doesn't advertise it.

The military people know what Obama and his people think of them. They are polling 70% for Romney.

[soonercruiser]

Hell my black neighbor called me a monkey the other day, and I laughed. Of course knowing it was a joke.

And I'm white.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn212/SoonerCruiser_photos/Political/angrywhitemonkey_zps5ece3a14.jpg

NO JOKE!!!???

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying the issue itself is idiotic. Bring something up where he has actually screwed the pooch and we can talk. This one doesn't even make it out of the gate.
The Benghazi cover up is onetht comes to mind quickly.

[Midtowner]

The Benghazi cover up is onetht comes to mind quickly.

I agree, that's not a dumbazz thing to bring up. This, however, is.