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SoonerInLubbock
8/21/2012, 02:51 PM
Makes me smile a bit.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1097657.html

The AP rankings might now be irrelevant since they don't have anything to do with determining a national champion anymore, but they're still great to use when analyzing college football on a historical scale.

The AP college football poll has been through World War II, has changed and adapted with the times, and has often looked to make a statement when needed - like in 2003 by naming USC the national champion, even though LSU took home the BCS title..

Since the AP poll is the only consistent ranking system from 1936 through today, CFN came up with a scoring system to compare and contrast how the programs finished over the decades. Every time a team finished No. 1 in the final poll, it got 25 points. The No. 2 team got 24 points, No. 3 got 23 points, and so on with the No. 25 team getting one point. Through the decades, the AP ranked the top ten teams for a few years before going back to the top 20 rankings, and eventually, it went to the top 25 system it's at now.

According to the scoring system, consistent production isn't necessarily rewarded. For example, if a team finished 17th for four straight years, it would get a total of 36 points (No. 17 gets 9 points). A team that finished the beginning of the decade No. 2 (24 points) and the end of the decade ranked tenth (16 points), but wasn't ranked any year in between, would get a total 40 points.

One fascinating thing to note: all the club teams that played during World War II. Notice the rankings of the all-star teams like the Iowa Pre-Fight juggernaut and the Bainbridge NTS powerhouse. In the end, though, the big-name programs you'd think would rock, did. There's a reason the superpowers of today got their reputations - they won.

However, things can change in a big hurry. When we did this in 2000, Notre Dame was on top of the world by a huge margin. Over a decade later and a following down period, things have changed up a bit.

So here we go - here are the greatest college football programs since 1936 according to the AP rankings.

RANK TEAM POINTS
1 Oklahoma 946.5
2 Michigan 919
3 Ohio State 908
4 Alabama 874
5 Notre Dame 872.5
6 USC 757
7 Texas 750.5
8 Nebraska 701
9 Tennessee 678
10 Penn State 645
11 LSU 530
12 Auburn 517
13 Georgia 517
14 Miami 511
15 UCLA 503
16 Florida 469
17 Florida State 446
18 Arkansas 414
19 Michigan State 364
20 Texas A&M 337
21 Washington 330
22 Georgia Tech 317.5
23 Wisconsin 305
24 Pittsburgh 293
25 Iowa 291
26 Ole Miss 284.5
27 Clemson 284
28 Colorado 258
29 Army 239
30 TCU 230
31 Minnesota 229
32 Maryland 225.5
33 Arizona State 223
34 Virginia Tech 222
35 Missouri 217.5
36 Duke 210
37 Navy 207.5
38 California 207
39 North Carolina 198
40 Purdue 195.5
41 Syracuse 190.5
42 West Virginia 194
43 Stanford 186
44 BYU 180
45 Illinois 177
46 SMU 168
47 Oregon 185
48 Houston 164
49 Boston College 150
50 Kansas State 154
51 Oklahoma State 137
52 Baylor 131.5
53 Boise State 128
54 Northwestern 127
55 Oregon State 124
56 Washington State 123
57 Mississippi State 105
58 Texas Tech 104
59 Kansas 96
60 Penn 95
T61 Fordham 88
T61 Kentucky 88
T61 Rice 88
64 Santa Clara 85.5
65 NC State 85
66 Tulane 80.5
67 Tulsa 79
68 Louisville 78
69 Arizona 76
T70 Air Force 75
T70 Utah 75
72 Cornell 68
73 Nevada 66
74 Indiana 63
75 Dartmouth 60
T76 Miami, Ohio 57
T76 South Carolina 57
78 Virginia 56
79 Princeton 55
80 Yale 54
81 Holy Cross 49.8
T82 Wyoming 48
T82 Duquesne 46
84 Iowa Pre-Flight 45
85 Villanova 41
86 Rutgers 38
87 Cincinnati 37
88 William & Mary 33
T89 Colorado State 31
T89 Toledo 31
T91 Bainbridge NTS 30
T91 Great Lakes 30
93 Wake Forest 24
T94 East Carolina 23
T94 Pacific 23
T94 Randolph Field 23
97 Carnegie-Mellon 20
98 Southern Miss 19
T99 Del Monte PF 18
T99 Marshall 18
101 Utah State 16
T102 Saint Mary's (Cal.) 14
T102 Vanderbilt 14
T104 Georgetown 13
T104 Hawaii 13
106 Norman Pre-Flight 12.5
107 Columbia 12
T108 El Toro Marines 10
T108 San Diego State 10
T110 Fresno State 9
T110 Hardin-Simmons 9
T110 Iowa State 9
T110 New Mexico St 9
T110 Temple 9
T115 Colorado College 8
T115 Fort Pierce 8
T117 Delaware 7
T117 Lafayette 7
T119 2nd Air Force 6
T119 Marquette 6
T119 Ohio 6
122 UCF 5
T123 Bowling Green 3
T123 Central Michigan 3
125 Saint Mary's PF 2

85sooners
8/21/2012, 02:53 PM
Oh yeah!!

KantoSooner
8/21/2012, 03:58 PM
Not good enough, damnit! I want at least another 25 points this year.

MountainOkie
8/21/2012, 05:05 PM
Well that's a first: CFN putting out something positive on OU.

Jacie
8/21/2012, 06:30 PM
There are only 125 teams on that list. I think there are that many D-1A programs now. What I want to see is the list of teams that have never finished ranked in the AP . . .

Seamus
8/21/2012, 07:09 PM
Well that's a first: CFN putting out something positive on OU.

To be fair, they were pretty PO'd about it ...

Mazeppa
8/21/2012, 07:51 PM
osu should be lower :)

MamaMia
8/21/2012, 08:50 PM
I stopped looking when I got to 7

MyT Oklahoma
8/21/2012, 09:18 PM
That was really no big surprise to me.

Carry on.

prrriiide
8/22/2012, 05:55 AM
What I want to see is the list of teams that have never finished ranked in the AP . . .

Akron (D-1 since 1987)
UAB (D-1 since 1996)
Arky St. (D-1 since 1975, D1AA from 1982-1991))
Ball St. (D-1 since 1975, D1AA in 1982)
Buffalo (D-1 since 1999)
Eastern MI (D-1 since 1976, D1AA in 1982)
FAU (D-1 since 2006)
FL Int'l (D-1 since 2006)
Idaho (D-1 since 1969, D1AA from 1978-1996)
Kent St. (D-1 since 1978, D1AA in 1982)
LA Tech (D-1 since 1975, D1AA 1982-1988)
LA Layfayette (D-1 since 1974)
LA Monroe (D-1 since 1975, D1AA 1982-1993)
Memphis (D-1 since 1960, finished #14 in the 1963 Coach's poll)
MTSU (D-1 since 1999)
UNLV (D-1 since 1978)
New Mexico (D-1 since 1940, finished #16 in 1964 Coach's poll)
NTSU (D-1 since 1957, finished #16 in 1977 Coach's poll)
Northern IL (D-1 since 1969)
San Jose St. (D-1 since 1950)
South FL (D-1 since 2001)
UTEP (D-1 since 1940)
Troy (D-1 since 2002)
Western KY (D-1 since 2009)
Western MI (D-1 since 1962)

SoonerAtKU
8/22/2012, 10:51 AM
I just looked at another part of their 2012 preview, and they have Metoyer as one of the top-30 WRs as a freshman. He's the only one on the list. They must think pretty highly of him.

thunderfan
8/22/2012, 04:01 PM
Just think where OU would rank if big game Bob wouldn't crap down his leg in big games

olevetonahill
8/22/2012, 06:37 PM
And whos Troll are you?

marfacowboy
8/22/2012, 07:22 PM
Cool...why Memphis is still playing football is a mystery to me. They average about 25,000 people per game, but looking at the stands you'd swear it was 2500.

8timechamps
8/22/2012, 08:24 PM
Akron (D-1 since 1987)
UAB (D-1 since 1996)
Arky St. (D-1 since 1975, D1AA from 1982-1991))
Ball St. (D-1 since 1975, D1AA in 1982)
Buffalo (D-1 since 1999)
Eastern MI (D-1 since 1976, D1AA in 1982)
FAU (D-1 since 2006)
FL Int'l (D-1 since 2006)
Idaho (D-1 since 1969, D1AA from 1978-1996)
Kent St. (D-1 since 1978, D1AA in 1982)
LA Tech (D-1 since 1975, D1AA 1982-1988)
LA Layfayette (D-1 since 1974)
LA Monroe (D-1 since 1975, D1AA 1982-1993)
Memphis (D-1 since 1960, finished #14 in the 1963 Coach's poll)
MTSU (D-1 since 1999)
UNLV (D-1 since 1978)
New Mexico (D-1 since 1940, finished #16 in 1964 Coach's poll)
NTSU (D-1 since 1957, finished #16 in 1977 Coach's poll)
Northern IL (D-1 since 1969)
San Jose St. (D-1 since 1950)
South FL (D-1 since 2001)
UTEP (D-1 since 1940)
Troy (D-1 since 2002)
Western KY (D-1 since 2009)
Western MI (D-1 since 1962)

A few of those teams surprise me, but damn...how bad has UTEP been?!

WA. Sooner
8/24/2012, 12:23 AM
Look at Duke. That surprised the hell out of me (36)

SCOUT
8/24/2012, 12:36 AM
It is as it should be.

MamaMia
8/24/2012, 03:38 AM
Just think where OU would rank if big game Bob wouldn't crap down his leg in big gamesFor half of the years Coach Stoops has been here, he has won the conference championship game. I would say thats a pretty good record. You cant play in that big game without winning others along the way.

SoonerinSouthlake
8/25/2012, 03:20 PM
ESPN has been re running this list all day.


Made you look:eagerness:

SoonerorLater
8/25/2012, 03:33 PM
I am admittedly prejudiced and they can concoct all the formulas they want but the thing that sets OU apart form the rest of the top tier pack isn't top ten finishes or even national championships though that certainly is important. We have the record of 47 straight which is going to be mighty hard to beat.

BigTip
8/25/2012, 03:49 PM
Did Sports Illustrated do this before too? I remember some other study having more or less the same results.

If the study is done with post WWII results it is even more startling.

It's fun being the best, isn't it? It must be terrible being an Illinois or Mississippi State.

King Crimson
8/25/2012, 05:50 PM
It's fun being the best, isn't it? It must be terrible being an Illinois or Mississippi State.

friend, i've lived in Boulder, Colorado for 15 years....my CU buddies are jazzed about being #28 or whatever (granted a decade ago they were much higher). lots of spek for them loving their program but #28. pfft.

AlboSooner
8/25/2012, 06:32 PM
51 Oklahoma State 137

lol

8timechamps
8/25/2012, 07:37 PM
friend, i've lived in Boulder, Colorado for 15 years....my CU buddies are jazzed about being #28 or whatever (granted a decade ago they were much higher). lots of spek for them loving their program but #28. pfft.

Given the way things have been, they'd really be pumped up to be ranked #28.