Has the Internet Deadened us all to political or moral debate?

[Blue]

Maybe it just heightened for awhile due to message boards or maybe the influx of opinions deadened us all. I can only speak for me, but there is no room in my life anymore for this discourse. Anybody else?

I might just be getting old.

[yermom]

it's more about shouting someone down and vilifying some group than any real discourse

[Blue]

it's more about shouting someone down and vilifying some group than any real discourse

I mean I've got my opinions and they more than likely aren't changing. Has everyone but a few finally realized that on the internet?

[Blue]

I guess my question is, "Can we now evolve to complete meanining-ning-less"?

[SicEmBaylor]

it's more about shouting someone down and vilifying some group than any real discourse
STFU YOU LONG HAIRED BEARDED SUBURU DRIVING SOCIALIST HIPPY!

[StoopTroup]

SicEm: when I say CHICKEN, you say SANDWICH!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmh2kmQhFL0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[IBleedCrimson]

On the interwebs ppl are much more likely to say exactly what they think in response to prompts or questions. You may think that obama is a socialist, but when a liberal person in your work place begins extolling the benefits of obamacare, you probably won't counter with a true and uncensored disagreement. You'll probably acknowledge his points and then mildly offer a counter, because to scream at him: "YOU'RE A DIRTY SOCIALIST WHO'STRYING TO RAPE MY FREEDOMS" is to weaken chances of promotion, undermine workplace harmony, etc... But, on the internet, no such social consequences exist. Hence the ridiculous stories, ludicrous responses, and total lack of I-give-a-****-about-other-ppl.

Basically, the internet and its anonymity allows anyone to say anything without consequences. This doesn't happen in the real world. See chick-fil-a.

In his sticky'd (I know this isn't a 'word') thread, C&CDean mentioned how most ppl on this board are the opposite of their forum personalities. At a tailgate if you call someone a dousch, you're probably getting rat-a-tat-tatted on the chin. But no such consequences exist when you're drunk and typing and in narcissim mode like I am right now in my crappy apartment in New Mexico.

[StoopTroup]

On the interwebs ppl are much more likely to say exactly what they think in response to prompts or questions. You may think that obama is a socialist, but when a liberal person in your work place begins extolling the benefits of obamacare, you probably won't counter with a true and uncensored disagreement. You'll probably acknowledge his points and then mildly offer a counter, because to scream at him: "YOU'RE A DIRTY SOCIALIST WHO'STRYING TO RAPE MY FREEDOMS" is to weaken chances of promotion, undermine workplace harmony, etc... But, on the internet, no such social consequences exist. Hence the ridiculous stories, ludicrous responses, and total lack of I-give-a-****-about-other-ppl.

Basically, the internet and its anonymity allows anyone to say anything without consequences. This doesn't happen in the real world. See chick-fil-a.

In his sticky'd (I know this isn't a 'word') thread, C&CDean mentioned how most ppl on this board are the opposite of their forum personalities. At a tailgate if you call someone a dousch, you're probably getting rat-a-tat-tatted on the chin. But no such consequences exist when you're drunk and typing and in narcissim mode like I am right now in my crappy apartment in New Mexico.

Yet....did you ever go to a TG? I've been going to TGs and Games since 1973. They aren't all the same. Some folks get pretty weird about when you just walk up grab a beer out of their cooler and hang around. At Dean's you could grab a beer out of the cooler, hang around for awhile and then leave. However....if you broke something or drank for free all day and went and wrote nasty messages in the Porta-pooper, you weren't going to get a 2nd chance to hang around.

SoonerFans is Phil's and the TGs were Dean's.

Phil allows lot of folks to **** all over the place here. Dean didn't allow much of that at TGs.

I will say this though....Phil did start letting Dean police things here last year. Most that got his wrath are at other websites talking about how they were mistreated and crying like little titty babies. :D

[Blue]

On the interwebs ppl are much more likely to say exactly what they think in response to prompts or questions. You may think that obama is a socialist, but when a liberal person in your work place begins extolling the benefits of obamacare, you probably won't counter with a true and uncensored disagreement. You'll probably acknowledge his points and then mildly offer a counter, because to scream at him: "YOU'RE A DIRTY SOCIALIST WHO'STRYING TO RAPE MY FREEDOMS" is to weaken chances of promotion, undermine workplace harmony, etc... But, on the internet, no such social consequences exist. Hence the ridiculous stories, ludicrous responses, and total lack of I-give-a-****-about-other-ppl.

Basically, the internet and its anonymity allows anyone to say anything without consequences. This doesn't happen in the real world. See chick-fil-a.

In his sticky'd (I know this isn't a 'word') thread, C&CDean mentioned how most ppl on this board are the opposite of their forum personalities. At a tailgate if you call someone a dousch, you're probably getting rat-a-tat-tatted on the chin. But no such consequences exist when you're drunk and typing and in narcissim mode like I am right now in my crappy apartment in New Mexico. Hmmmmmmm.

Hmmmmm. Good points?

[StoopTroup]

Hmmmmmmm.

Hmmmmm. Good points?

He's got some there. Some are generalities.

[IBleedCrimson]

Yet....did you ever go to a TG? I've been going to TGs and Games since 1973. They aren't all the same. Some folks get pretty weird about when you just walk up grab a beer out of their cooler and hang around. At Dean's you could grab a beer out of the cooler, hang around for awhile and then leave. However....if you broke something or drank for free all day and went and wrote nasty messages in the Porta-pooper, you weren't going to get a 2nd chance to hang around.

SoonerFans is Phil's and the TGs were Dean's.

Phil allows lot of folks to **** all over the place here. Dean didn't allow much of that at TGs.

I will say this though....Phil did start letting Dean police things here last year. Most that got his wrath are at other websites talking about how they were mistreated and crying like little titty babies. :D

Lol, I did stop by a couple tailgates (actually, 2) but at that point I honestly didn't know soonerfans.com existed. And by stopping by, I mean wandering around and listening to ppl talk because I was 18, afraid to grab a beer because it was 1) illegal and 2) had heard crazy stories from my everyong about American cops, and had been living in Norway for 5 years (graduating high school there) and honestly didn't know much about "American" football (besides what my dad had taught me, but there weren't any games on the teevee there! How could I truly appreciate the glory of college football without seeing it?!) or what this crazy land called Oklahoma was. During my time in Norman and at OU I fell in love with Sooner football (how couldn't I!). When I moved to Co Springs and later into New Mexico I joined the board to get some of that football fix using gamethreads (real-time football talk) and thru offseason horribleness.

I know I probably wouldn't get punched for talking politics at a TG, but I bet if you took RLIMC and put him next to midtowner there would be much less vitriol and condescension in the discussion.

[StoopTroup]

Lol, I did stop by a couple tailgates (actually, 2) but at that point I honestly didn't know soonerfans.com existed. And by stopping by, I mean wandering around and listening to ppl talk because I was 18, afraid to grab a beer because it was 1) illegal and 2) had heard crazy stories from my everyong about American cops, and had been living in Norway for 5 years (graduating high school there) and honestly didn't know much about "American" football (besides what my dad had taught me, but there weren't any games on the teevee there! How could I truly appreciate the glory of college football without seeing it?!) or what this crazy land called Oklahoma was. During my time in Norman and at OU I fell in love with Sooner football (how couldn't I!). When I moved to Co Springs and later into New Mexico I joined the board to get some of that football fix using gamethreads (real-time football talk) and thru offseason horribleness.

I know I probably wouldn't get punched for talking politics at a TG, but I bet if you took RLIMC and put him next to midtowner there would be much less vitriol and condescension in the discussion.


I think Dean would just get them both drunk enough to stop talking politics at the F-ing TG! :D

The TGs didn't have it's own Political Forum. Strictly Football, "Which cooler has Pacifico, Newcastle, Bud, Bud light, etc..." and "Who the hell made the Pie, Guacamole, Quiche etc! :D

[12]

?..I am right now in my crappy apartment in New Mexico.

Dude. I am in Kansas. At least you have crappy skiing.:sneakiness:

[StoopTroup]

You can ski in Kansas, just watch the really slick sh|tty brown spots.

http://i.imwx.com/web/news/2011/february/ski-horse-21611-400x400.jpg

[marfacowboy]

I generally agree with most of what's been said. I know I've grown tired of Internet banter, and frankly don't see the point any longer. No one is changing their minds about anything or even slightly willing to consider it as far as I can see.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty much the same here as I am in person. I tend to call out bull**** when I see it, but welcome dissenting views and open debate. We've had long debates, often fueled by bottles of wine, at our dinner table on a wide variety of subjects. Sports, film, literature, politics, science, you name it. It usually ends well, and of course, I always win, and I'm always right. :joyous:

[cleller]

STFU YOU LONG HAIRED BEARDED SUBURU DRIVING SOCIALIST HIPPY!

A bunch of the US Subaru vehicles are made in Lafayette Indiana. It may be up north, but they are great cars. Ask any rural mailman. BigGrin.

[MamaMia]

Maybe it just heightened for awhile due to message boards or maybe the influx of opinions deadened us all. I can only speak for me, but there is no room in my life anymore for this discourse. Anybody else?

I might just be getting old.So many subjects have been beaten to death. I only join in the discussions that interest me and I appreciate a good debate as long as people play fair. By that I mean, having a conversation with people who don't twist what other people say around, don't resort to name calling or making ugly statements, or make assumptions to bolster their position. Most people are intelligent enough to see through those tactics these days. That kind of behavior takes the fun away for everyone because even if those kinds of posts are not directed toward you, you still read them as you go along. A real good tool to have is being able to agree to disagree. I'm able to have a good healthy political debate with many people one minute, set that aside and sit down and enjoy watching a movie or game with them the next.

[8timechamps]

Good question Blue.

I think the internet (and media in general) has desensitized our society to a lot of things, and certainly could have an affect on the political discourse.

Along similar lines, I have wondered if the multi-million dollar campaign ads that are run do anything other than keep a candidates name in front of the voters. I cannot imagine anyone changes their vote because of a political commercial. But, I may be wrong.

[Blue]

The media has made it a joke. Maybe it was always a joke, but I no longer read newspapers or watch newschannels. Right now its baseball and books and Ive never been happier. Just vreading the comment sections on any given news article will make you want to shoot yourself.

[8timechamps]

The media has made it a joke. Maybe it was always a joke, but I no longer read newspapers or watch newschannels. Right now its baseball and books and Ive never been happier. Just vreading the comment sections on any given news article will make you want to shoot yourself.

I have a daily routine of sites I frequent for the news, that way I can choose what I'm going to read. I keep CNBC on in my office all day, but other than that, I stay away from the CNNs and Fox News' of the world. They really have become political commercials. Maybe after the election I'll check'em out.

[picasso]

Dude, CNBC? NBC has been more vocal than anyone on their political leanings. And they are owned by green energy sellouts GE.
The internet has given everyone a voice. From anonymous tough guy to know it all dickhead.

It's allsome man.

[8timechamps]

Dude, CNBC? NBC has been more vocal than anyone on their political leanings. And they are owned by green energy sellouts GE.
The internet has given everyone a voice. From anonymous tough guy to know it all dickhead.

It's allsome man.

I only keep CNBC on because of the market news. In all reality, I rarely watch it. Every once in a while I'll listen to a CEO or analyst, but it's more for background noise. I've tried other sources, like Bloomberg TV, but I can't find any other source that covers the markets like CNBC.

[BigTip]

I feel that the internet discussions are not where they always will be. They have changed and I feel will continue to change.
I think in the early days people were civil. Then they realized they were anonymous and the name calling and stupid started. I admit that I would respond in kind to someone calling me names.
But now I don't. I know there are crazies out there and I don't respond to them anymore. I know other people that have changed how they act on the internet.

This makes me think that other people will figure that out and not respond to the crazies just as I don't.

I do enjoy hearing the points of why the people that are wrong think they are right. I know I won't convince them they are wrong, but hearing their reasoning helps me formulate arguments that might change other people's minds. I frequently think to myself, "Why in the heck do they think (fill in the blank) will work?" I want them to tell me.