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Mazeppa
8/9/2012, 07:33 PM
Livestock farmers still seeking pause in ethanol production
Associated Press
August 9, 2012


Livestock farmers and ranchers seeing their feed costs rise because of the worst drought in a quarter-century are demanding that the Environmental Protection Agency waive production requirements for corn-based ethanol.

The Obama administration sees no need for a waiver, siding with corn growers — many of them in presidential election battleground states Iowa and Ohio — who continue to support the mandate.

"If not now, when?" Randy Spronk, a Minnesota pork farmer, said of the EPA's authority to defer the ethanol production requirement when it threatens to severely harm the economy of a state or region. "Everyone should feel the pain of rationing."

Spronk, who is president-elect of the National Pork Producers Council, said livestock producers will have to reduce their herds and flocks because feed is becoming scarce and too expensive. Cattlemen and chicken farmers have the same concern.

"We do support the American ethanol industry," said Kristina Butts, executive director of legislative affairs at the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. "All we are asking for is that competition for that bushel of corn be on a level playing field."

The government, she said, "is picking the ethanol industry to be the winner to get that bushel of corn."

The Renewable Fuel Standard, enacted in 2005 and then significantly expanded in 2007, requires that 13.2 billion gallons of corn starch-derived biofuel be produced in 2012. The intent was to reduce both greenhouse gas emissions blamed for climate change and dependence on foreign oil.

One consequence is that 40 percent of the nation's corn crop now goes to ethanol producers, compared with 36 percent for feed. The rest is divided between processed food and exports. Critics say ethanol also is a big factor in the price of a bushel of corn going from an average $2.15 a bushel in the 1997-2006 period to more than $8 today.

With half the nation's corn crop now in poor condition, "relief from the Renewable Fuel Standard is extremely urgent because another short corn crop would be devastating to the animal agriculture industry, food manufacturers, food service providers, as well as consumers," 156 House members wrote EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson in urging her to issue a waiver. Twenty-five senators, about evenly divided between the two parties, wrote a similar letter to Jackson this week.

The House letter was signed mainly by Republicans, who are outspoken in their opposition to EPA regulations. But as with the Senate, the majority of signees were from the South, where the poultry industry is strong, with others coming from Western cattle states and Northern dairy states. Midwestern corn states like Iowa and Ohio were largely unrepresented.

It's more complicated for people like Kevin Ross, who raises corn and soybeans in southwest Iowa and heads the Iowa Corn Growers Association. Losing the ethanol market, he said, would definitely hurt his business. Having another major market for corn, he said, "has had an effect on the rural economy that's not been seen in decades. ... I really hope we don't make any rash decisions about it."

Ross and others pointed to a study by Iowa State economist Bruce Babcock concluding that because of the flexibility built into the current mandate system, removing the ethanol requirement would only decrease corn prices by about 28 cents a bushel, or 4.6 percent.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Babcock cautioned that at this point no one knows what the final corn yield will be. But if it drops dramatically from current projections, his estimate for the impact of suspending the mandate would go up. "The worse the corn crop, the bigger will be the effect on corn prices."

The ethanol industry, backed by the Obama administration, says it's unfair to blame it for turmoil in the corn market. Tom Buis, CEO of Growth Energy, which represents producers and supporters of ethanol, said at a recent news conference that he'd "never heard a bigger whopper" than the argument that fuel demands were hurting food supplies.

The ethanol industry argues that the Agriculture Department's estimate that ethanol consumes a 40-percent share of the corn market is misleading because about a third of the ethanol corn is refined into a high-value animal feed called dried distiller grain. Buis said ethanol's actual share of the corn crop as a fuel is closer to 16 percent.

Renewable Fuels Association CEP Bob Dinneen also pointed out that there is flexibility built into the system. For example, ethanol produced one year but not used can be carried over to the next year. He said ethanol production has always been above what was required and that this year, with supplies down and prices up, producers are already slowing production.

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack echoed that at a White House briefing last month, saying: "There's no need to go to the EPA at this point in time. Based on the quantity of ethanol that's currently in storage, there's no problem in that area at this point in time."

He also pointed out that despite the drought, the corn crop could still be one of the larger ones in history because farmers, enticed by high prices, planted so many acres this spring.

The EPA also turned down a request by Texas Gov. Rick Perry in 2008 to waive the mandate because of drought in his state.

C. Larry Pope, president and CEO of Smithfield Foods Inc., the world's largest pork producer, said in a July 26 Wall Street Journal opinion piece that Congress should pass a House proposal that would tie the Renewable Fuel Standard percentage to free-market supply and demand. He said that with the ethanol mandate and the high price of corn, "Smithfield was forced to take the unfortunate but absolutely necessary step of buying corn from Brazil."

That brought a quick retort from Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who went to the Senate floor to compare Pope to Henny Penny, the character from the children's story "Chicken Little" who warned everyone that the sky was falling.

"Why did farmers plant 96 million acres of corn this year? Why have seed producers spent millions to develop better yielding and drought-resistant traits?" Grassley asked. "The answer is simple: ethanol."

cleller
8/9/2012, 09:52 PM
I just got back from a drive thru Indiana and Illinois. Corn out the wazoo. The thing that struck me most was the appearance of the farmhouses. Some old, some new, all very big and very nice. There was a noticeable lack of the small and/or struggling rural homes that you see in Oklahoma.

I mentioned this to my hard working, long time cattle ranching neighbor. He just kind of slumped over in either disgust or despair. His complaint in a nutshell is those big time midwest farmers receive government help on a grand scale in the form or subsidies, and subsidized crop insurance that the typical Okie farmer or rancher is locked out of. On top of that, feed and fertilizer have become so expensive he can hardly keep going.

Ethanol supporters should read up on the ethanol story National Geographic did about 4 years ago. Pretty damning on the US plan, and Nat Geo is not exactly a right wing rag.

oudanny
8/10/2012, 08:47 AM
Using corn to produce ethanol is moronic.

yermom
8/10/2012, 09:06 AM
i don't want that poison in my car anyway

olevetonahill
8/10/2012, 09:12 AM
Using corn to produce ethanol is moronic.
I beg to Differ :biggrin:

cleller
8/10/2012, 02:13 PM
I beg to Differ :biggrin:

I read something you wrote about this, and was surprised. The whole thing seems like a boondoggle to me. That ethanol gas will screw your chainsaw up, too.

I'd be open more to the sugar cane or sea algae thing. It sounds like it produces more ethanol for buck. The feed price increases since the ethanol deal have been bad.
http://greenecon.net/ethanol-offers-short-tern-solutions-but-corn-based-ethanol-is-not-the-answer/energy_economics.html

pphilfran
8/10/2012, 02:26 PM
That is actually a pretty good summary...

I do disagree with their stance on solar...we won't lower crude used because of solar...less than 1% of our electricity is generated from crude...and those crude plants are old and inefficient and will go to the graveyard much sooner than later...

Mass production from cellulosic/sea algae based production is decades out...and by that time, imo, fuel cells will be far more common place...

badger
8/10/2012, 02:28 PM
Is this the price of being a staunchly red state, as opposed to a battleground state like Ohio or Iowa - that their farmers get government help and we get laughed at as a measly seven-delegate flyover state?

olevetonahill
8/10/2012, 03:45 PM
I beg to Differ :biggrin:


I read something you wrote about this, and was surprised. The whole thing seems like a boondoggle to me. That ethanol gas will screw your chainsaw up, too.

I'd be open more to the sugar cane or sea algae thing. It sounds like it produces more ethanol for buck. The feed price increases since the ethanol deal have been bad.
http://greenecon.net/ethanol-offers-short-tern-solutions-but-corn-based-ethanol-is-not-the-answer/energy_economics.html

I were meaning THIS :biggrin:
http://www.marketplace.org/sites/marketplace.org/files/styles/slide-show-2-column-530x396/public/WWW/data/images/repository/2010/04/29/20100429_moonshine2_23.jpg

rock on sooner
8/10/2012, 04:00 PM
I were meaning THIS :biggrin:
http://www.marketplace.org/sites/marketplace.org/files/styles/slide-show-2-column-530x396/public/WWW/data/images/repository/2010/04/29/20100429_moonshine2_23.jpg
Heh, knew that! Hey, Vet, better move the jar closer
to the center of the block!:cheerful:

olevetonahill
8/10/2012, 04:01 PM
Heh, knew that! Hey, Vet, better move the jar closer
to the center of the block!:cheerful:

That aint My Rig, PoPos took mine , The bastards :succ:

pphilfran
8/10/2012, 04:09 PM
Timmy and your still? bastards!

rock on sooner
8/10/2012, 04:11 PM
Is this the price of being a staunchly red state, as opposed to a battleground state like Ohio or Iowa - that their farmers get government help and we get laughed at as a measly seven-delegate flyover state?

Badg, here in Iowa we only have 7 delegates this year and next
time we'll only have 6...

The vast majority of the farmers that are getting the big gov't
checks are corporate farmers. Yeah, the family farms do, too,
but not as much. (Sen. Grassley is a farmer, fair sized spread
and he gets the checks as well.)

Cleller, not sure where you were in those states. Almost
all the corngrowers crops are in the 75% range of only fair
to poor and worse. What happened was a huge acreage planting
this year because of high corn prices so crop insurance will help
a little but won't be much of an impact, cause even if the per
acre yield is down theres still gonna be a lot of corn.

Don't know why OK farmers and ranchers are locked out 'cause
the Farm Bill is for everyone. Have to help out here and explain
why.

rock on sooner
8/10/2012, 04:12 PM
That aint My Rig, PoPos took mine , The bastards :succ:

Well, that a helluva note!

badger
8/10/2012, 04:17 PM
Badg, here in Iowa we only have 7 delegates this year and next
time we'll only have 6...

But of course, you cocky-us is the first in the nation so they can't ignore you like they can ignore us. :mad:

But ya, I remember the corporate farm thing up north. One thing that really seemed to hurt the family farmers was... the farmers themselves for being stuck in their old ways, for no good reason other than "that's the way I've always done it." Corporate farms would expand, upgrade technology, and bid out for lowest prices on feed and supplies, whereas small-time farmers would go to the same suppliers they always did and pay higher costs... still have around the same number of cows to milk... stick with the tag-on-ear system of cows and not worry about digitizing anything, etc.

There's also another influence of course... cheap labor. It started really emerging around the time I moved away. No hablo ingles, hehe

olevetonahill
8/10/2012, 04:17 PM
Timmy and your still? bastards!

I know, Right? Next thing ya know they gonna say I cant grow a little weed.

cleller
8/10/2012, 09:42 PM
Don't know why OK farmers and ranchers are locked out 'cause
the Farm Bill is for everyone. Have to help out here and explain
why.

Just not a corn state, I think. There's some out west, of course where they have irrigation, but I guess the rest of the state just doesn't have the soil or climate for it. Its funny I drove completely across Illinois, and saw corn everywhere. Just as you hit St Louis, heading west, it stops, and there is none to be seen in Missouri. Too rocky on that side, I think.

Shoot, the last couple years its been hard to even grow a decent crop of grass here. The whole thing is nuts. Corn prices are sky high, food prices are going up, feed prices are insane, and the government turns 40% of the corn into fuel we could get cheaper elsewhere.