WSOP The Main Event

[SanJoaquinSooner]

The Main Event No Limit Holdem starts today at Noon.

My brother in law played in it last year. He belongs to a Dallas poker club who sends it's yearly winner to the main event, paying the $10,000 entry fee. He lasted only one day, going all-in on a pair of fives. How anyone goes all-in on a pair of fives, I'll never know - especially on the first day. In tournament play, the name of the game is hanging around.

Reminds me of last week's The Big One, with 48 players paying $1 million fee. On the last hand played, the losing, 2nd place finisher, went all in after the flop with 4 diamonds. The other player had a 2-1 chip advantage at the time. Assuming your opponent has already paired up, you know your changes of winning the hand is less than 50%.

I can't feel too sorry for him, however, 2nd place took home 10 million dollars. 1st Place won 18 million.

[yermom]

chances of winning isn't the same as a favorable bet, even if you aren't talking about trying to get someone to fold

[yermom]

but yeah, i would love to go play in that one of these days

i'm rusty as hell at poker though

[olevetonahill]

but yeah, i would love to go play in that one of these days

i'm rusty as hell at poker though
So when ya wanta play?

[ouleaf]

The Main Event No Limit Holdem starts today at Noon.

My brother in law played in it last year. He belongs to a Dallas poker club who sends it's yearly winner to the main event, paying the $10,000 entry fee. He lasted only one day, going all-in on a pair of fives. How anyone goes all-in on a pair of fives, I'll never know - especially on the first day. In tournament play, the name of the game is hanging around.

Reminds me of last week's The Big One, with 48 players paying $1 million fee. On the last hand played, the losing, 2nd place finisher, went all in after the flop with 4 diamonds. The other player had a 2-1 chip advantage at the time. Assuming your opponent has already paired up, you know your changes of winning the hand is less than 50%.

I can't feel too sorry for him, however, 2nd place took home 10 million dollars. 1st Place won 18 million.

This unfortunately no longer gets the buzz it did about 10 years ago. I would love to go sit at a WSOP table one time in my life. I realize your odds of winning it are very small, so just hanging around long enough to finish in the money is a real feat. As far as the pair of 5's all in, yeah that is a very risky move on the first day.

On the diamond draw, were their hole cards over cards to the chip leaders hand? If you have 2 cards to draw a diamond that gives you a lot of outs, even more if they are over cards.

[badger]

This unfortunately no longer gets the buzz it did about 10 years ago. I would love to go sit at a WSOP table one time in my life. I realize your odds of winning it are very small, so just hanging around long enough to finish in the money is a real feat. As far as the pair of 5's all in, yeah that is a very risky move on the first day.

On the diamond draw, were their hole cards over cards to the chip leaders hand? If you have 2 cards to draw a diamond that gives you a lot of outs, even more if they are over cards.

When they cracked down on Internet sites that were doing illegal poker gambling online, that pretty much killed the chance of ever having another Jamie Gold-level payout, as well as having a tournament that huge ever again. A lot of those players were Internet site champs, winning their seat at the WSOP by winning Internet tournaments.

Not that I'd ever wanna see Jamie Gold on top again. Dude was a jerk to his competitors and his partner.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

On the diamond draw, were their hole cards over cards to the chip leaders hand? If you have 2 cards to draw a diamond that gives you a lot of outs, even more if they are over cards.

Trickett held QD and 6D. The flop was JD 5D 5C.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

When they cracked down on Internet sites that were doing illegal poker gambling online, that pretty much killed the chance of ever having another Jamie Gold-level payout, as well as having a tournament that huge ever again. A lot of those players were Internet site champs, winning their seat at the WSOP by winning Internet tournaments.

Not that I'd ever wanna see Jamie Gold on top again. Dude was a jerk to his competitors and his partner.


Badger, I know there's a lot of talk about the effects of Black Friday on the poker world.

There's a player, Aaron Kanter, who lives here in Northern California (Lodi) who made the final table at 2005 Main Event taking home $2 million. He's mainly an on-line player, saying he can make more money per hour playing online than he can playing live tournaments, plus there aren't that many professional tournaments in Northern California.

What he did, after Black Friday, is buy a second home in Vancouver. He spends his work week in Vancouver playing online and comes home to his wife and two young kids when he takes days off. Men seem to like working away from home when the kids are still infants/toddlers so they don't have to **** with crying kids and changing diapers, you know.

Anyway, in 2005, rookie Aaron Kanter was involved in a somewhat famous hand with defending world champion Greg Raymer:


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http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/11/where-are-they-now-2005-wsop-main-event-aaron-kanter-11422.htm

[badger]

Men seem to like working away from home when the kids are still infants/toddlers so they don't have to **** with crying kids and changing diapers, you know.

lol. NP and I take turns with baby duties, although I do 99 percent of the feeding, with the whole nursing thing. That remaining 1 percent is after I bottle it up and hand it to someone else :)

Poor crazy glasses guy. I have tried watching poker live and either the table doesn't like an audience in local casinos, or it is TOO. DAMN. BORING. because not every hand is as exciting as ESPN makes it.

[C&CDean]

Am I the only one who thinks this **** is ****? Watching some goof with zombie-eyed glasses playing against some wannabe cowboy playing against some punkassed kid who's never worked a day in his life on TV? Serious meh.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Jason Alexander of "Seinfeld" fame is playing. He just hit a rivered wheel to take a pot.

He's trying to be incognito, w/ a mustache, shades and a piece.

[yermom]

Am I the only one who thinks this **** is ****? Watching some goof with zombie-eyed glasses playing against some wannabe cowboy playing against some punkassed kid who's never worked a day in his life on TV? Serious meh.

it's seriously played out anymore

back in the day it used to just be 2 hours of edited footage from the final table...

before WPT you could barely even find Texas Hold 'em in casinos. everyone was playing HiLo Stud or Omaha 8

[BigTip]

I went out about three years ago. I played in two events. A $1,500 NLH, and a $3,000 NLH. I didn't cash in either one. But it was worth it. All the celebrities were there. I outlasted Mike the Mouth Matusow and Clonie Gowen in one. Doyle Brunson was sitting at the next table over at one of my events. Jennifer Tilley and I walked down the hallway to the bathroom together during a break and exchanged a few words.
To me, all that was worth the price of the buy ins.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

[delete this ****er]

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I watched the documentary "All In" this evening.

They did a fairly decent job hitting key moments in modern day holdem history....

1. with Amarillo Slim winning the World Series of Poker with only 8 entries in 1972,

2. Doyle Brunson's back-to-back championships in 76 and 77.

3. how the movie Rounders got many interested in the game,

4. the invention of the camera devices to show the hole cards of the players and the players initially reluctant to show the hole cards and expose their secret strategies

5. how it was dominated by seasoned players in the early days, until a young* brash Jewish kid (Stu Ungar) from the Lower East Side of Manhattan - looking like a fish out of water - won the WSOP back-to-back (80/81). He also won it a 3rd time several years later.

6. the emergence of internet poker and Black Friday ending it in the U.S.

7. They did a really great job with the story of slacker Chris Moneymaker's all-too-improbable road to the Main Event Championship and the "Moneymaker effect" that led to every Tom, Dick, and Nguyen becoming a player.

8. Most poker players aren't great interviews - they would make even Bruce Springstein look charismatic. But a few who are very good interviews were in this film such as Howard Lederer, Phil Hellmuth, Annie Duke, and Daniel Negreanu (my personal favorite pro player).

*The film didn't focus much on the young age of players, but it is fascinating that the last four winners of the Main Event have been really young - early twenties. It makes me think of how many musicians and mathematicians do their best work in the 20s, with the "genius" moderating a bit as they grow older.

[badger]

Annie Duke was fun to watch on Celebrity Apprentice and a few years back when she took down Phil Hellmuth. I've heard that some players don't like her because she peeks at their cards in earlier rounds though after she's left hands, but won't let others look at her cards even if they're out of the hands.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Annie Duke was fun to watch on Celebrity Apprentice and a few years back when she took down Phil Hellmuth. I've heard that some players don't like her because she peeks at their cards in earlier rounds though after she's left hands, but won't let others look at her cards even if they're out of the hands.

There's been buzz about this year being "year of the woman" at the Main Event ... with expectations one or more women would go deeper than ever before and maybe make the final table.

It's very early still, but a French Woman, Gaelle Baumann, is the chip leader presently, with a bit over $500,000. I think most everyone would like to see a woman make the final table - especially those in the poker industry.

http://pnimg.net/lrep/1824/6/m06cef60fc8.jpg

[badger]

Some guys are really funny to watch, like they demand to have control over the table by walking around every so often, leading the table conversations, etc. If there's a chick there, it can be emasculating for some of em.

I know it's a stereotype, but men tend to be the bigger risk takers for whatever reason, which can be a positive or a negative. In a tournament of thousands, I'd say it's a negative.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Some guys are really funny to watch, like they demand to have control over the table by walking around every so often, leading the table conversations, etc. If there's a chick there, it can be emasculating for some of em.

I know it's a stereotype, but men tend to be the bigger risk takers for whatever reason, which can be a positive or a negative. In a tournament of thousands, I'd say it's a negative.

It would be interesting if a true experimental study could be done to see if there's a difference in play with respect to gender of opponent.

[badger]

It would be interesting if a true experimental study could be done to see if there's a difference in play with respect to gender of opponent.

Pbbth experimental study. Just see how the seasoned pros toyed around with the n00bs during those initial Internet days and you'd see that people play differently based on who they're facing.

I remember reading Poker Brat lament that people had seen his style of play too much on TV so that when he bluffed, they called him on it, or if he slow played, they wouldn't bite.

[yermom]

well, this is what happens when you write a book :biggrin:

Doyle Brunson had to change the way he played because of it as well

[badger]

well, this is what happens when you write a book :biggrin:

Doyle Brunson had to change the way he played because of it as well

The best advice I heard was to never tell another player if you know their tell, or they'll fake it and take all of your chips.

(scratches nose)

Awww crap, there's my tell. I've never played Texas Hold Em ever except in this cowboy video game (where you could also play Five Finger Filet hehe) and I know nothing about the game other than what ESPN tells me

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Today is Day 5 and the field is down to 282 players out of the 6600 that began The Main Event.

Noteworthy, there are 3 women in the top 24: Elisabeth Hille (6th) 2 mil, Vanessa Selbst (15th) 1.7 mil and Gaelle Bauman (24th) 1.4 mil. Chip leader is Paul Volpe with 2.75 mil.

I had never heard of Elisabeth Hille, so I did a Yahoo search for her picture, w/ key words "Elisabeth Hille Poker" -but what I got back was a bunch of nude pictures of Shannon Elizabeth of American Pie fame, who apparently enjoys playing poker when clothed.

I had to use Google to get the real Elisabeth Hille's pic. No wonder market analysts are concerned about Yahoo's future.


My favorite player, Daniel Negreanu, is still hanging on in 233rd place with 300,000.












The real elisabeth hille
http://pnimg.net/lrep/1824/18/mb6bfa5f077.jpg


shannon elizabeth
http://www.56casino.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Poker-Girl-Shannon-Elizabeth.jpg

[olevetonahill]

So when is this "SPORT" on TeeVee?

[SanJoaquinSooner]

So when is this "SPORT" on TeeVee?


ESPN.
August 14th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. (ET) WSOP Main Event

August 21st, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

August 28th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

September 5th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

September 11th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

September 18th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

September 25th, 2012: 8-10 p.m. WSOP Main Event

October 2nd, 2012: 9-11 p.m. WSOP Main Event

October 9th, 2012: 9-11 p.m. WSOP Main Event

October 16th, 2012: 9-11 p.m. WSOP Main Event

October 23rd, 2012: 9-11 p.m. WSOP Main Event

October 30th, 2012: 9 p.m. WSOP Main Event Final Table (live on 15 minute delay)

[olevetonahill]

So if it aint on TeeVee how ya keepin up with this ****?

[SanJoaquinSooner]

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp

[Curly Bill]

Am I the only one who thinks this **** is ****? Watching some goof with zombie-eyed glasses playing against some wannabe cowboy playing against some punkassed kid who's never worked a day in his life on TV? Serious meh.

Right there with ya!

[SanJoaquinSooner]

There's been buzz about this year being "year of the woman" at the Main Event ... with expectations one or more women would go deeper than ever before and maybe make the final table.

It's very early still, but a French Woman, Gaelle Baumann, is the chip leader presently, with a bit over $500,000. I think most everyone would like to see a woman make the final table - especially those in the poker industry.

http://pnimg.net/lrep/1824/6/m06cef60fc8.jpg


Today is Day 5 and the field is down to 282 players out of the 6600 that began The Main Event.

Noteworthy, there are 3 women in the top 24: Elisabeth Hille (6th) 2 mil, Vanessa Selbst (15th) 1.7 mil and Gaelle Bauman (24th) 1.4 mil. Chip leader is Paul Volpe with 2.75 mil.

I had never heard of Elisabeth Hille, so I did a Yahoo search for her picture, w/ key words "Elisabeth Hille Poker" -but what I got back was a bunch of nude pictures of Shannon Elizabeth of American Pie fame, who apparently enjoys playing poker when clothed.

I had to use Google to get the real Elisabeth Hille's pic. No wonder market analysts are concerned about Yahoo's future.


My favorite player, Daniel Negreanu, is still hanging on in 233rd place with 300,000.










The real elisabeth hille
http://pnimg.net/lrep/1824/18/mb6bfa5f077.jpg


shannon elizabeth
http://www.56casino.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Poker-Girl-Shannon-Elizabeth.jpg





Well these two aforementioned ladies missed the final table of 9 by a pubic hair: Gaelle Baumann finishing 10th and Elisabeth Hille finishing 11th. They each picked up $590,000 -- not bad for working 7 12-hour days. Oh, unless you're like Dean and Curly, and believe "thinking" is not working.

And subsequent to my Yahoo! comments, the Yahoo board of directors has hired a new CEO babe from Google who I'm sure will fix it so I don't get nude pics of Shannon Elizabeth when I'm trying to get pics of Elisabeth Hille.


My favorite player, Daniel Negreanu, finished 160th for $52,000. Not bad out of 6600 entries.