Keystone XL Pipe - Southern Leg

[soonercruiser]

I 've seen a couple of articles in the paper over the last several days.

Sounds like the Corps (not corpse) has broken the Southern Leg into 3 zones for evaluation approval.
The first ofe 3 legs (in OKlahoma) was approved by the Corps this week.

Keystone pipeline is cleared for construction in Oklahoma
http://newsok.com/keystone-pipeline-is-cleared-for-construction-in-oklahoma/article/3688391

[cleller]

Will be kind of interesting. It will be passing about 4-5 miles east of my house, I think.

[rock on sooner]

Help me out here...

My understanding is that the pipeline will buried. Is that correct? Wouldn't it
be easier to monitor and/or repair if built above ground?

[cleller]

I would imagine that since it crosses the private land of so many people, they'd never go for it above ground. I have an ONG pipeline across our property, doesn't bother me a bit. If it were above ground, it would be terrible.

[REDREX]

Help me out here...

My understanding is that the pipeline will buried. Is that correct? Wouldn't it
be easier to monitor and/or repair if built above ground?---Why would it be built above ground?----It will only be a few feet below ground like the other 100,000's of thousands of miles of pipeline are in this country

[soonercruiser]

Time to bury your connector line, before they start!

[soonercruiser]

---Why would it be built above ground?----It will only be a few feet below ground like the other 100,000's of thousands of miles of pipeline are in this country

I'm assuming that where it is located vertically was part of the project "design & approval" specs.
(Too many guns in Oklahoma. When it comes down to defending our liberty....too much of a chance of pipeline colateral damage.)

[soonerhubs]

---Why would it be built above ground?----It will only be a few feet below ground like the other 100,000's of thousands of miles of pipeline are in this country

I'm assuming that where it is located vertically was part of the project "design & approval" specs.
(Too many guns in Oklahoma. When it comes down to defending our liberty....too much of a chance of pipeline colateral damage.)
Darn it! No more aiming at their feet! ;)

[rock on sooner]

Well, I think a case could be made to keep it topside (AK pipeline) 'cause
there WILL be leaks but understand about target shooting, or any other
exercise of 2nd Amendment stuff.

[soonercruiser]

Actually my guns-pipeline location sentence was a gun "joke".
Maybe the "oilies" on the forum can tell us why "buried".

[REDREX]

Well, I think a case could be made to keep it topside (AK pipeline) 'cause
there WILL be leaks but understand about target shooting, or any other
exercise of 2nd Amendment stuff.----The line in AK is only above ground because of permafrost -----I don't believe we have permafrost in Okla or Texas

[Tulsa_Fireman]

My wife approves my third leg.

[KantoSooner]

You are correct Redrex; since my ex last visited, there has been no permafrost in Oklahoma.

[soonercruiser]

No oilies with an opinion (or facts)???

:apathy:

[Bourbon St Sooner]

I don't think there's any advantage to having it above ground. Pipelines like this are regularly pigged to detect corrosion, cracks, etc.

I think Nigeria has above ground pipes in the Niger delta that are regularly tapped by thieves (causing explosions sometimes). I don't think I'd want my kids playing around an exposed pipeline.

[rock on sooner]

Part of my thinking about it above ground has to do with the
near certainty of leaks...above ground can be spotted quickly
by air (EPA hard at work) spills isolated, contained and cleaned
much more easily than if the problem is underground.

But, the dangers, target shooters, thieves and terrorists all
are convincing arguments to bury the pipe. Here's hoping
for superior construction and even more superior welders.

[rock on sooner]

Only a slightly related question about the southern leg...It would
be interesting to know how many new jobs are created and how
many are permanent ones.

[REDREX]

Part of my thinking about it above ground has to do with the
near certainty of leaks...above ground can be spotted quickly
by air (EPA hard at work) spills isolated, contained and cleaned
much more easily than if the problem is underground.

But, the dangers, target shooters, thieves and terrorists all
are convincing arguments to bury the pipe. Here's hoping
for superior construction and even more superior welders.----The EPA does not look for leaks----If you have a leak you have to report it

[pphilfran]

Don't they use pressure sensitive systems to monitor for leaks?

[REDREX]

Don't they use pressure sensitive systems to monitor for leaks?---The EPA does not---Pipeline operators monitor pipelines 24/7/365 for pressure loss----If you have a small leak you will probably never see a person from the EPA----- But you tell them about it

[pphilfran]

---The EPA does not---Pipeline operators monitor pipelines 24/7/365 for pressure loss----If you have a small leak you will probably never see a person from the EPA----- But you tell them about it

I wasn't meaning EPA...the EPA is probably out there punching holes so they can limit growth.... I keed....

[REDREX]

I have response plans for the EPA and for Home Land Security for the same location--------The stupid part of that is that neither agency will accept the others plan

[rock on sooner]

A big squawk here in IA is about low flying EPA aircraft looking
for environmental issues with hog farms and the like...just figured
they'd look into leaking pipelines, too. As a boy growing up on
an oil lease, I remember seeing low flying planes following pipe-
line routes.

A big responsiblilty for self reporting......

[REDREX]

A big squawk here in IA is about low flying EPA aircraft looking
for environmental issues with hog farms and the like...just figured
they'd look into leaking pipelines, too. As a boy growing up on
an oil lease, I remember seeing low flying planes following pipe-
line routes.

A big responsiblilty for self reporting......---Sure ---that is the pipeline operator having someone fly the Right of Way to look for leaks and people digging or doing anything on the Right of Way