Flat billed baseball caps

[jkjsooner]

I was watching some college baseball and noticed that almost none of them have any curve at all in the bill of their hats. I kind of noticed it over the last few years but never bothered to think about it until now.

When did this trend start? It looks pretty dorky and I can't imagined what would have happened if I would have tried that back in my high school days. I guess I'm just admitting to be old...

I suppose it's no different than the dorks who used to roll their bills like a taco.

What I don't get is how the hats fit properly. I guess you buy them made to fit that way, right?

So I decided to watch some MLB after watching the college guys. Looks like most MLB players wear their hat the traditional way. I'm trying to figure out if there's any functional advantage to wearing a non-curved bill. I suppose you can wear them a little lower so you shield the sun a little more in the middle while giving up some peripheral shielding.

[Chuck Bao]

I roll mine mine like a taco, not actually like a taco. It has to be like a cowboy hat with personality.

[SicEmBaylor]

Flat billed caps=automatic *********.

[yermom]

i'm fairly sure they got that from the African-American fellows.

[JiuJitsuSooner]

It started as more of a skater/surf/west coast style, its been everywhere in cali/az/vegas for the last 7-8 years, now it's really becoming popular everywhere..

[yermom]

i always saw the urban youth with the flat bills and the stickers and tags intact like it just came from the store

[picasso]

Popular only within a certain age group. It's gansta if you ask me, which is ok if you're out and about, but it looks ****ing stupid in baseball and golf.

[Chuck Bao]

I'm living overseas and I'm lost here. There really is a fad for a flat bill baseball cap? Is that right? Off the top of my head, I can't think anything more stupid than this, except possibly bell bottom pants.

[SicEmBaylor]

I'm living overseas and I'm lost here. There really is a fad for a flat bill baseball cap? Is that right? Off the top of my head, I can't think anything more stupid than this, except possibly bell bottom pants.
Yes, it's one of those fads that make me want to leave the country. It was a west coast thing that is permeating into our slice of the USA.

I think it's a sign of major *********gery.

[cleller]

It started as more of a skater/surf/west coast style, its been everywhere in cali/az/vegas for the last 7-8 years, now it's really becoming popular everywhere..

Another year or two, it will be all over.

Gangsta fads start and progress slower than mainstream fads. Anyone remember the stupid fad about 1979-80 or so with the batting helmets?

[Curly Bill]

I don't wear baseball caps at all, but I just assume anyone wearing a flat bill is either a wanna-be, stupid, or a doosh...maybe all 3.

[badger]

Does it block the sun better if it's flat? I mean, that's why a cap has a bill in the first place, amirite?

[dwarthog]

You mean like this?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k19/dwarthog/fail-owned-hat-fail.jpg

[jkjsooner]

I'm living overseas and I'm lost here. There really is a fad for a flat bill baseball cap? Is that right? Off the top of my head, I can't think anything more stupid than this, except possibly bell bottom pants.

Here's OU's roster.

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/okla-m-basebl-mtt.html

There's a slight variance but none wear them the traditional way.

[C&CDean]

It ain't new, and it ain't taking the country over. A bunch of dillweed little teenagers saw some gangsta rapholes doing it and thought it was groovy. Then, some other dillweed little faggoty skater boys saw it and started doing it. Finally, some little dillweed baseball players started doing it.

It's gay, it's lame, and it's hopefully going away soon.

[pphilfran]

"Can you believe the kids these days! Look at dem damn hats!" The Babe

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii187/pphilfran/babe.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii187/pphilfran/mick.jpg

[hawaii 5-0]

Flat bills remind me of Jesper Parnevik

Classic dork.


5-0

[sooneron]

I don't get the ridonkulous stupid trends with hats the last ten years. I'm pretty sure that the flat bill trumps the stupid azzed tilted thing of 6 years ago ...

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2058/JTG-WWE-Superstar-4.jpg

Of course, you have this doosher being the cover boy of the flat bill craze...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ptz0SOAQlJs/TQTluBRHtjI/AAAAAAAAAeo/8W2wdE6_I2w/s1600/rickie-fowler-getty.jpg

[C&CDean]

Yeah, and what's with the hat over the ears? I mean WTF?

[Tear Down This Wall]

As of last season, we still curved-billed it at our house. And, you'll probably catch us at the opener in El Paso in curved-bill as well: You can't teach an old dog stupid tricks.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314983_2397915388805_7982522_n.jpg

[Tear Down This Wall]

George Brett was still curve-bill at an old-timers game recently. Baseball-wise, if curved-bill is still good enough for George Brett, it's still good enough for me.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3739939599_05fd8978fa_o.jpg

[oudanny]

Hate it.

[8timechamps]

Hate it.

My 12 year old son wears his hats that way, and I give him **** every time. What's worse is that all of the kids at his age level in youth baseball wear their hats like that. I hate it, and let him know it regularly. Fortunately he's a catcher, so he never wears it on the field that way.

Here in Colorado, Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki (flat billed foolishness pictured below) is one of the top two most popular baseball players, and he wears a stupid flat-bill cap. So it just encourages the kids to wear it that way.

It's bad enough to wear a hat that way, it's worse when it's worn on the diamond. I hate flat bills and long pants in baseball, and both are popular right now. Although, I'm starting to see more and more youth players wearing stirrups and their pants pulled up to their knees...hopefully the flat-bill thing is soon to follow.

http://images.picturesdepot.com/photo/t/troy_tulowitzki_colorado_rockies-24623.jpg

[Ton Loc]

Hate it.

My 12 year old son wears his hats that way, and I give him **** every time.

You're kid's hat looks fine in that pic.

They're kids. They're dumb and they'll grow out of it. Besides, my grandparents/parents used to give me **** for curving the bill of my hat.

[SoonerBread]

I hate flat bills and long pants in baseball, and both are popular right now. Although, I'm starting to see more and more youth players wearing stirrups and their pants pulled up to their knees...

I won't get into the flat-billed debate with you guys (even though most of the examples being shown are not flat bills, they have curve to them). However, I am vehemently opposed to dudes playing baseball with their **** pulled up to their knees. That's how softball players wear their pants. If they want to wear them old school, which is baggy as hell, pulled up, that's fine. But these "boys" wearing tight-assed pants pulled up look silly. I'm not really a pants pulled down over the cleats guy, but full-length pants are the way to go. It's a cleaner look. It doesn't look juvenile or feminine. Might as well wear football pants on the baseball diamond.

[texaspokieokie]

You're kid's hat looks fine in that pic.

They're kids. They're dumb and they'll grow out of it. Besides, my grandparents/parents used to give me **** for curving the bill of my hat.The more we comment on it, the more they want to do it.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I'm living overseas and I'm lost here. There really is a fad for a flat bill baseball cap? Is that right? Off the top of my head, I can't think anything more stupid than this, except possibly bell bottom pants.

^^^^ This! It does look pretty stupid.

So can anyone post the gang v. team hat code? I know some teams like the Dodgers, etc. map to certain gangs...

[OULenexaman]

I have no idea what your asking about THA

[texaspokieokie]

^^^^ This! It does look pretty stupid.

So can anyone post the gang v. team hat code? I know some teams like the Dodgers, etc. map to certain gangs...Most gang hats i've seen is oakland raiders.
even when they were in la.

[Okieflyer]

However, I am vehemently opposed to dudes playing baseball with their **** pulled up to their knees. That's how softball players wear their pants. If they want to wear them old school, which is baggy as hell, pulled up, that's fine. But these "boys" wearing tight-assed pants pulled up look silly. I'm not really a pants pulled down over the cleats guy, but full-length pants are the way to go. It's a cleaner look. It doesn't look juvenile or feminine. Might as well wear football pants on the baseball diamond.

http://www.posters.ws/images/415142/mickey_mantle_world_series_home_run_record.jpg

Socks dude! Full length pants is in no way the way to go. Tradition should rule....but it doesn't.

[jkjsooner]

You're kid's hat looks fine in that pic.

They're kids. They're dumb and they'll grow out of it. Besides, my grandparents/parents used to give me **** for curving the bill of my hat.

I don't think that is 8timechamps kid although I'm sure he wouldn't mind having a Rockies player as a kid.

That being said, I don't think that picture is the best example as he does have a slight curve to the bill.

As far as tradition goes, I don't think any of us who in our 40's have a lot to say. Baseball uniforms in the '70s and '80s were about as far away from tradition as it comes. Then again, it wasn't really our choice...

[picasso]

I won't get into the flat-billed debate with you guys (even though most of the examples being shown are not flat bills, they have curve to them). However, I am vehemently opposed to dudes playing baseball with their **** pulled up to their knees. That's how softball players wear their pants. If they want to wear them old school, which is baggy as hell, pulled up, that's fine. But these "boys" wearing tight-assed pants pulled up look silly. I'm not really a pants pulled down over the cleats guy, but full-length pants are the way to go. It's a cleaner look. It doesn't look juvenile or feminine. Might as well wear football pants on the baseball diamond.
I played in the 80's and we wore 'em tight, and pulled up to the knees and rolled. I hit .515 my senior year so I could wear 'em any effin way I wanted to! heh
And I disagree, the baggy soggy bottom pants look like **** in their own special way. But that doesn't bother me as much as the hats.
It's kind of like that period near the end of the 80's when we were trying bring back the low sock look. heh

[8timechamps]

I won't get into the flat-billed debate with you guys (even though most of the examples being shown are not flat bills, they have curve to them). However, I am vehemently opposed to dudes playing baseball with their **** pulled up to their knees. That's how softball players wear their pants. If they want to wear them old school, which is baggy as hell, pulled up, that's fine. But these "boys" wearing tight-assed pants pulled up look silly. I'm not really a pants pulled down over the cleats guy, but full-length pants are the way to go. It's a cleaner look. It doesn't look juvenile or feminine. Might as well wear football pants on the baseball diamond.

Couldn't disagree more. Long pants in baseball is wrong. They look like pajama bottoms or white/grey slacks. I'm a traditionalist, so pulled up high with plenty of stirrup/sani showing. No skin tight pants either. The difference in softball and baseball pants...in softball, it's okay to wear dark colored pants, not in baseball.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you? I'm thinking that could have a lot to do with the style differences.






http://www.posters.ws/images/415142/mickey_mantle_world_series_home_run_record.jpg

Socks dude! Full length pants is in no way the way to go. Tradition should rule....but it doesn't.

YES! Stirrups (preferably with stripes) is the only way to go!

[8timechamps]

You're kid's hat looks fine in that pic.

They're kids. They're dumb and they'll grow out of it. Besides, my grandparents/parents used to give me **** for curving the bill of my hat.

I wish that was my kid in that pic...it's the Colorado Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki. Trust me, my kids looks terrible in his flat billed hats. :)

[texaspokieokie]

Long pants or short, i think they should all be the same. Isn't that what UNIFORM means.

[Soonerwake]

I spend every weekend at a ballpark somewhere, and the flat bills and long pants are here to stay, at least for now. I would guess that 90%-95% of the kids wear them that way, my 6 yr old included. I personally think it looks stupid, but my parents thought the mohawk I sported my senior year of football was stupid too. (Actually, it was.. )

[SoonerBread]

I won't get into the flat-billed debate with you guys (even though most of the examples being shown are not flat bills, they have curve to them). However, I am vehemently opposed to dudes playing baseball with their **** pulled up to their knees. That's how softball players wear their pants. If they want to wear them old school, which is baggy as hell, pulled up, that's fine. But these "boys" wearing tight-assed pants pulled up look silly. I'm not really a pants pulled down over the cleats guy, but full-length pants are the way to go. It's a cleaner look. It doesn't look juvenile or feminine. Might as well wear football pants on the baseball diamond.

Couldn't disagree more. Long pants in baseball is wrong. They look like pajama bottoms or white/grey slacks. I'm a traditionalist, so pulled up high with plenty of stirrup/sani showing. No skin tight pants either. The difference in softball and baseball pants...in softball, it's okay to wear dark colored pants, not in baseball.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

Lol, I'm not 14, if that's what you're getting at. I'm watching softball right now - one team has white pants with sanitary socks, the other dark pants with sanitary socks. All players are wearing them pulled up to the knees, all are tight. Neither team looks like a baseball team. I'm just saying, tight pulled up pants to the knees is the new softball look. You might like to reminisce about the old days of baseball, but the fact is that "traditional baseball" look is the softball look of today. It's fine on girls. They ALL look that way.

As far as the pic, that's even less traditional of a uniform. Button down shirt, tall socks with pants tucked into them. Like Ty Cobb era ****. When guys like Ian Kinsler don that look, that's cool. But that 60s/70s/80s baseball, contemporary softball look is dorky. Sorry, man. When I see ballplayers dressed like that (even OU's team) it makes me giggle at them and call them softball players.

[olevetonahill]

Wear yer hat Flat and ya can Look stupid like this

http://l1.yimg.com/dh/ap/ap/default/120601/bieber_uni.jpg

[BigJerm7]

Is this a traditional curved bill?

http://images.wikia.com/baseball/images/b/b4/Rollie_Fingers.jpg

How about this idiot and his flatbill?

http://www.baseball-statistics.com/HOF/Player-pics/smith_ozzie.jpg

I wonder if anybody told this guy on the right how foolish he looked?

http://gmagrading.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/nolan-ryan-rookie-card.jpg

[olevetonahill]

http://images.wikia.com/baseball/images/b/b4/Rollie_Fingers.jpg

Is that Catfish?

[texaspokieokie]

Is that Catfish?surely you jest.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Both of my boy's went through the flat billed stage over the last few years. I gave them so much **** about it, they finally stopped wearing them around me. Plus, if I found a flat bill in my house, I'd roll it...which according to them, pretty much made it unwearable. Win/win.

[SoonerAtKU]

#whitepeopleproblems

[Eielson]

I kinda feel like Dontrelle Willis did a lot to put it in style. I may be completely wrong on that, though.

[C&CDean]

#blackpeoplestupidity

fify

[SoonerAtKU]

Uh, it seems as if there are a lot of people on this thread with white kids that they're desperately concerned about. I'd kindly ask you to take their feelings about hat folding into account, Dean.

Think of the children.

[olevetonahill]

Uh, it seems as if there are a lot of people on this thread with white kids that they're desperately concerned about. I'd kindly ask you to take their feelings about hat folding into account, Dean.

Think of the children.
You callin my kid a "Wigger"?

[C&CDean]

Uh, it seems as if there are a lot of people on this thread with white kids that they're desperately concerned about. I'd kindly ask you to take their feelings about hat folding into account, Dean.

Think of the children.

My "children" are probably older than you. It ain't them with the flat bills. I do have one who is 22 who did wear them some. He grew out of it like most kids do.

I do have a 16-year old nephew who bought a flat-billed OU hat not too long ago. He goes "Uncle Dean, what do you think?" I go "the only positive thing about that POS hat you're wearing is the OU on the front. You look like a skinny little white boy trying to be black." He goes "whatever old man." I go "whatever indeed little pissant."

[sooneron]

heh

[sooneron]

Is this a traditional curved bill?

http://images.wikia.com/baseball/images/b/b4/Rollie_Fingers.jpg

How about this idiot and his flatbill?

http://www.baseball-statistics.com/HOF/Player-pics/smith_ozzie.jpg

I wonder if anybody told this guy on the right how foolish he looked?

http://gmagrading.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/nolan-ryan-rookie-card.jpg

Just because it happened once in style doesn't mean it should ever come back. If the gangstas ever start with this
http://meyermix.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/family-portrait-leisure-suit.jpg
and the little burb brats catch on, I'll laugh at them, too. Although, I'm pretty sure the hipsters did glom onto the kid's style of sweater, but that's another group of idiots to laugh at...

[SoonerAtKU]

My "children" are probably older than you. It ain't them with the flat bills. I do have one who is 22 who did wear them some. He grew out of it like most kids do.

I do have a 16-year old nephew who bought a flat-billed OU hat not too long ago. He goes "Uncle Dean, what do you think?" I go "the only positive thing about that POS hat you're wearing is the OU on the front. You look like a skinny little white boy trying to be black." He goes "whatever old man." I go "whatever indeed little pissant."I didn't say YOUR children.

[C&CDean]

Just because it happened once in style doesn't mean it should ever come back. If the gangstas ever start with this
http://meyermix.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/family-portrait-leisure-suit.jpg
and the little burb brats catch on, I'll laugh at them, too. Although, I'm pretty sure the hipsters did glom onto the kid's style of sweater, but that's another group of idiots to laugh at...

John Travolta has wood right now. This very second. "Night fever, night fever, we know how to do it..."

[sooneron]

Which of the males in the pic do you think he has his eye on? :D

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Whichever one will give him a gay buttsex massage.

[Eielson]

You look like a skinny little white boy trying to be black."

Good to see you're teaching your nephew racism at a young age. Wouldn't want him to get brainwashed with that new idea that it's okay to be black!

[Tulsa_Fireman]

But it's not.

*duck*

[Curly Bill]

It's ok to be black, if you actually are black. ;)

[8timechamps]

Uh, it seems as if there are a lot of people on this thread with white kids that they're desperately concerned about. I'd kindly ask you to take their feelings about hat folding into account, Dean.

Think of the children.

I don't think "desperately concerned" means what you think it means. I'm about as "desperately concerned" about their hat style as I am with the kind of deodorant they use. The topic of the thread was "Flat billed baseball caps", so that's, you know, what we were discussing.

[8timechamps]

Lol, I'm not 14, if that's what you're getting at. I'm watching softball right now - one team has white pants with sanitary socks, the other dark pants with sanitary socks. All players are wearing them pulled up to the knees, all are tight. Neither team looks like a baseball team. I'm just saying, tight pulled up pants to the knees is the new softball look. You might like to reminisce about the old days of baseball, but the fact is that "traditional baseball" look is the softball look of today. It's fine on girls. They ALL look that way.

As far as the pic, that's even less traditional of a uniform. Button down shirt, tall socks with pants tucked into them. Like Ty Cobb era ****. When guys like Ian Kinsler don that look, that's cool. But that 60s/70s/80s baseball, contemporary softball look is dorky. Sorry, man. When I see ballplayers dressed like that (even OU's team) it makes me giggle at them and call them softball players.

No, I wasn't thinking you were/are 14. However, I am in my 40's, and I've yet to meet a person of my age (or older) that thinks flat bill hats look good. So, I was thinking if you're in your 20's, then your generation was part of the flat bill inception, so I can see why someone of that age group would think they look fine/good.

As for the uniforms in baseball, I agree about the tight fitting pants. Don't like 'em. Pull your pant leg up to your knee (just below), and blouse accordingly. That's traditional baseball.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

I need to mention this.

If you're watching a soon-to-be Sooner national championship in softball and the main thing going through your mind is bagging on their pants, you may want to check your heterosexuality index. Go get blood drawn. Maybe a cheek swab. Possibly an MRI.

Mmmmm. Thick girls.

[C&CDean]

Good to see you're teaching your nephew racism at a young age. Wouldn't want him to get brainwashed with that new idea that it's okay to be black!

Spare me.


Answer me this grasshoppah: Why do you want to look black? Why would you want to act black? The only acceptable answer is "cause they get to **** all the white wimmens." You know that, right? Cause if you think baggy drawers with your boxers showing, a wife-beater T-shirt, and a flat-billed hat looks good, you're a ****ing moron.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

you're a ****ing moron.

You could've saved yourself some carpal tunnel and just typed this, Deano.

[C&CDean]

True enough.

[Eielson]

Spare me.


Answer me this grasshoppah: Why do you want to look black? Why would you want to act black? The only acceptable answer is "cause they get to **** all the white wimmens." You know that, right? Cause if you think baggy drawers with your boxers showing, a wife-beater T-shirt, and a flat-billed hat looks good, you're a ****ing moron.

You think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" Originally it was just disappointment that people would say "trying to be black" rather than something more along the lines of, "you look like white trash." I hate the emphasis that gets placed on the "black" part of it. I don't feel there should be a concern if your kid is white, black, mexican, asian, or any other race. The concern should be about them looking ghetto, trashy, skanky, etc. It's not about race.

This post took it way too far, though. You seriously think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" I'm thoroughly disgusted.

[olevetonahill]

You think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" Originally it was just disappointment that people would say "trying to be black" rather than something more along the lines of, "you look like white trash." I hate the emphasis that gets placed on the "black" part of it. I don't feel there should be a concern if your kid is white, black, mexican, asian, or any other race. The concern should be about them looking ghetto, trashy, skanky, etc. It's not about race.

This post took it way too far, though. You seriously think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" I'm thoroughly disgusted.

You gonna Cry?
Most white wimmens that **** the chocolate are skanks anyways

[yermom]

Spare me.


Answer me this grasshoppah: Why do you want to look black? Why would you want to act black? The only acceptable answer is "cause they get to **** all the white wimmens." You know that, right? Cause if you think baggy drawers with your boxers showing, a wife-beater T-shirt, and a flat-billed hat looks good, you're a ****ing moron.

maybe Eilson wants to be Justin Bieber: http://justinsagging.tumblr.com/

[picasso]

You think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" Originally it was just disappointment that people would say "trying to be black" rather than something more along the lines of, "you look like white trash." I hate the emphasis that gets placed on the "black" part of it. I don't feel there should be a concern if your kid is white, black, mexican, asian, or any other race. The concern should be about them looking ghetto, trashy, skanky, etc. It's not about race.

This post took it way too far, though. You seriously think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" I'm thoroughly disgusted.
You're getting played so badly.

[C&CDean]

Anybody remember what time the KKK meeting starts tonight?

[C&CDean]

You seriously think the only good thing about being black is getting to "**** all the white wimmens?" I'm thoroughly disgusted.

Nah, there's the running fast thing, the jumping high thing, the reduced requirements for admission into college, all sorts of black clubs and months and stuff, and most importantly, no sunscreen.

[Fraggle145]

After the thunder game.

[olevetonahill]

After the thunder game.
Is this with the Hoods Night?

[sooner_born_1960]

Anybody remember what time the KKK meeting starts tonight?
cancelled. There's a softball game to watch.

[Fraggle145]

Is this with the Hoods Night?

Actually, sooner_born is right, I forgot it was postponed for tomorrow due to the softball game.

First 500 people get a free flat billed ball cap.

[olevetonahill]

Actually, sooner_born is right, I forgot it was postponed for tomorrow due to the softball game.

First 500 people get a free flat billed ball cap.

Ima watch that round ball game, Caint believe ima sayin that, cause I never watched it much before unless OU was doing great things and we know how long thats been.

[olevetonahill]

Come to the conclusion that the Flat bill thingy is a Definite Fad . The Thunder all had their NBA hats on and every one of em was on crooked and flat

[OULenexaman]

It's a niggy thing......something new will come along and probably look even more dorky *** than that.

[SoonerAtKU]

Come to the conclusion that the Flat bill thingy is a Definite Fad . The Thunder all had their NBA hats on and every one of em was on crooked and flat

To be fair, that's every team that wins something. They pull those hats out of boxes 10 minutes beforehand, so they're not exactly "broken in". Same thing goes for hockey teams, and I challenge anyone to turn that one into a racial thing.



Other than saying it's clearly a Canadian problem. Justin Bieber is out of control and must be stopped.

[SoonerBread]

I need to mention this.

If you're watching a soon-to-be Sooner national championship in softball and the main thing going through your mind is bagging on their pants, you may want to check your heterosexuality index. Go get blood drawn. Maybe a cheek swab. Possibly an MRI.

Mmmmm. Thick girls.

So I can safely assume you're a lesbian...?

[setem]

You will hardly ever see me without a hat on. The only time I don't wear one is when I am inside my house and sleeping. That being said I cannot stand to wear anything but a fiftynine50. They fit right, look great and as far as breaking the bill, I go the natural curve way. Gravity or tension on the bill seams to curve it for me. I used to curve my hat so much that I had no peripheral vision but now I just let god take care of it and I think I look fine. No gangsta look or hood look just regular old hat look. All of my OU hats are New Era's fiftynine50's.

[12]

Flat billed caps=automatic *********.

I agree with Sicem, only I'll add the flat-billed cap is also *** ************* ***** ***** * ** .

[8timechamps]

I agree with Sicem, only I'll add the flat-billed cap is also *** ************* ***** ***** * ** .

Only if you **** ******** **** ******** and **** though.

[12]

Sorry about that. I meant *********.