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cleller
4/5/2012, 03:45 PM
MIT researchers predict a "global economic collapse" by 2030. (George Bush was not mentioned--a joke, couldn't resist, please don't make them move this)

From Yahoo News:

A new study from researchers at MIT and produced for an international think tank, says that the world could suffer from "global economic collapse" and "precipitous population decline" if people continue to consume the world's resources at the current pace.

Smithsonian Magazine writes that Australian physicist Graham Turner says "the world is on track for disaster" and that current evidence coincides with a famous, and in some quarters, infamous, academic report from 1972 entitled, "The Limits to Growth."

Produced for a group called The Club of Rome, the study's researchers created a computing model to forecast different scenarios based on the current models of population growth and global resource consumption. The study also took into account different levels of agricultural productivity, birth control and environmental protection efforts. Twelve million copies of the report were produced and distributed in 37 different languages.

Most of the computer scenarios found population and economic growth continuing at a steady rate until about 2030. But without "drastic measures for environmental protection," the scenarios predict the likelihood of a population and economic crash.

However, the study said "unlimited economic growth" is still possible if world governments enact policies and invest in green technologies that help limit the expansion of our ecological footprint.

The Smithsonian notes that several experts strongly objected to "The Limit of Growth's" findings, including the late Yale economist Henry Wallich, who for 12 years served as a governor of the Federal Research Board and was its chief international economics expert. At the time, Wallich said attempting to regulate economic growth would be equal to "consigning billions to permanent poverty."

Turner says that perhaps the most startling find from the study is that the results of the computer scenarios were nearly identical to those predicted in similar computer scenarios used as the basis for "The Limits to Growth."

"There is a very clear warning bell being rung here," Turner said. "We are not on a sustainable trajectory."

Blue
4/5/2012, 03:50 PM
So expect it by 2020 then?

I gotta say, i thought we were headed there any day over the past few years but it seems I underestimated the power of the printing press.

cccasooner2
4/5/2012, 04:37 PM
MIT researchers predict a "global economic collapse" by 2030. ....."There is a very clear warning bell being rung here," Turner said. "We are not on a sustainable trajectory."

Oh shiot, when is all this anti-religious stuff going to stop? Next thing you know, someone's going to claim he was born of a monkey.

cleller
4/5/2012, 05:59 PM
Oh shiot, when is all this anti-religious stuff going to stop? Next thing you know, someone's going to claim he was born of a monkey.

I have a nephew that is always acting like a monkey.

Chuck Bao
4/5/2012, 06:46 PM
The Smithsonian notes that several experts strongly objected to "The Limit of Growth's" findings, including the late Yale economist Henry Wallich, who for 12 years served as a governor of the Federal Research Board and was its chief international economics expert. At the time, Wallich said attempting to regulate economic growth would be equal to "consigning billions to permanent poverty".

I find this quote and viewpoint most interesting. I wonder how many international economists are changing their opinion more towards international trade being a zero sum game and how a change in the free trade policy could hasten the inevitable. Markets always anticipate...so this could be the first seal broken of the apocalypse.

StoopTroup
4/5/2012, 07:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTv-i8YVnVo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

8timechamps
4/5/2012, 08:39 PM
I find this quote and viewpoint most interesting. I wonder how many international economists are changing their opinion more towards international trade being a zero sum game and how a change in the free trade policy could hasten the inevitable. Markets always anticipate...so this could be the first seal broken of the apocalypse.

I had the same thought. There's no question that since the marketplace became "global", it has sped up resource depletion. What's most interesting is that most world governments haven't taken the warnings too seriously.

IBleedCrimson
4/5/2012, 09:17 PM
this problem has already been solved

thevenusproject.com

hawaii 5-0
4/5/2012, 10:56 PM
If we drill as fast as we can will we be able to bring the projected date to 2020?

Strange how when it comes to conserving our resourses, the ones who claim to hold conservativism dear are nowhere to be seen?


5-0

Tulsa_Fireman
4/6/2012, 07:00 AM
RAPE AND PILLAGE

TAKE THAT, EARTH *unfunfunf*

StoopTroup
4/6/2012, 11:00 AM
I had the same thought. There's no question that since the marketplace became "global", it has sped up resource depletion. What's most interesting is that most world governments haven't taken the warnings too seriously.

The King in Dubia seems to understand that the long term outcome for his Country isn't good. They are spending money trying to make a sandbox attractive. I'm guessing people will sail there on Richard Branson's Fleet of Hot Air Balloons.

cleller
4/6/2012, 01:37 PM
I just enlarged my garden by about 40 SF. If I keep this up for the next 17 years, things should be OK. We'll have beef, chickens, eggs, garden, firewood.

If the air conditioning goes away, life won't be worth living, though.

8timechamps
4/6/2012, 04:51 PM
this problem has already been solved

thevenusproject.com

I watched the hour long 'documentary' on the website. In theory, it sounds great. In reality, there is no way (short of a major event forcing the focus to change) that all the worlds leaders would buy in to it. I still thought it was a pretty cool idea.