Dear President Obama...

[Turd_Ferguson]

Get ya some Icky!!!


"Dear President Obama,

"You don't know my telephone number, but I hope your staff is busy trying to find it. Ever since you called Sandra Fluke after Rush Limbaugh called her a slut, I figured I might be next. You explained to reporters you called her because you were thinking of your two daughters, Malia and Sasha. After all, you didn't want them to think it was okay for men to treat them that way:
"'One of the things I want them to do as they get older is engage in issues they care about, even ones I may not agree with them on,' you said. 'I want them to be able to speak their mind in a civil and thoughtful way. And I don't want them attacked or called horrible names because they're being good citizens.'
"And I totally agree your kids should be able to speak their minds and engage the culture. I look forward to seeing what good things Malia and Sasha end up doing with their lives.
"But here's why I'm a little surprised my phone hasn't rung. Your $1,000,000 donor Bill Maher has said reprehensible things about my family. He's made fun of my brother because of his Down's Syndrome. He's said I was 'f—-d so hard a baby fell out.' (In a classy move, he did this while his producers put up the cover of my book, which tells about the forgiveness and redemption I've found in God after my past -- very public -- mistakes.)
"If Maher talked about Malia and Sasha that way, you'd return his dirty money and the Secret Service would probably have to restrain you. After all, I've always felt you understood my plight more than most because your mom was a teenager. That's why you stood up for me when you were campaigning against Sen. McCain and my mom -- you said vicious attacks on me should be off limits.
"Yet I wonder if the presidency has changed you. Now that you're in office, it seems you're only willing to defend certain women. You're only willing to take a moral stand when you know your liberal supporters will stand behind you.
"But…
"What if you did something radical and wildly unpopular with your base and took a stand against the denigration of all women ... even if they're just single moms? Even if they're Republicans?
"I'm not expecting your SuperPAC to return the money. You're going to need every dime to hang on to your presidency. I'm not even really expecting a call. But would it be too much to expect a little consistency? After all, you're President of all Americans, not just the liberals."

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpalin/2012/03/mr-president-when-should-i-expect-your-call/

[StoopTroup]

After all, you're President of all Americans, not just the liberals."

I'm trying to understand her plight on this one. She's a Republican? So because the Limbaugh story caught his eye and he felt the need to respond and used his Daughters as the reason. He should now be consistent and respond to all situations because as POTUS he agreed to do so right after he said he would defend the Constitution? So he should return the money that Bill Maher gave to someone else but shouldn't be to concerned about it as she feels he doesn't really care about her and because of that he'll need the money because his Presidency is at risk now because he chose to comment on the Limbaugh issue?

It's apparent to me that Obamacare is really needed and hopefully she will be able to find a plan that covers mental health.

[Turd_Ferguson]

After all, you're President of all Americans, not just the liberals."

I'm trying to understand her plight on this one. She's a Republican? So because the Limbaugh story caught his eye and he felt the need to respond and used his Daughters as the reason. He should now be consistent and respond to all situations because as POTUS he agreed to do so right after he said he would defend the Constitution? So he should return the money that Bill Maher gave to someone else but shouldn't be to concerned about it as she feels he doesn't really care about her and because of that he'll need the money because his Presidency is at risk now because he chose to comment on the Limbaugh issue?

It's apparent to me that Obamacare is really needed and hopefully she will be able to find a plan that covers mental health.You crack me the **** up!!!:D

[Midtowner]

It's a SuperPAC. That means it has no relationship to the candidate, right?

--or should Romney actually be responsible for all of his SuperPAC's misleading attacks on other candidates?

[Turd_Ferguson]

Boy, some of you guys intentionally miss the point entirely......or conveniently.Indeed.

[Midtowner]

Is the point that two wrongs make a right?

The President isn't responsible for something a late night comedian says on a cable channel. Bristol Palin, unlike Fluke, is a public figure. She has already cashed in big on her young mother routine. She's fair game to be lampooned. Fluke, on the other hand, is a private person, not fair game.

[StoopTroup]

I agree. Either way you slice this one.....the point should probably be filed down until it's as sharp as a wet noodle.

WTF?

I hope that Bristol runs for Office one day and does what her Mother couldn't. Finish the Job you were elected to do? Is that to much to ask?

When being a Civil Servant leads to Fox or even CNN buying you off to be an Opinion Person on their Network and you can't see that you are being bought off.....it's a sad day in America.

Her Mother Sarah had a much better chance to really use her position to improve things for Women in America as Governor of Alaska that an Employee of Fox Corp.

It's sad that they allowed themselves to be bought off like they were. Even though I didn't always agree with the stuff she did.....I was impressed as to how quickly she became famous. I was impressed that she stood up to the RNC when she felt they were trying to mold her into McCain's Running Mate instead of allow her to speak out about the issues she was passionate about. Was it smart of her to do it? IMO no. I think she stood a better chance of being VP had she just played along but the longer she fought them the more obvious to me it was that McCain screwed up picking her to be his Running Mate. He didn't know her and it ended up costing him the election. I'm sure he'd be crucified if he ever expressed such feelings but it is what happened IMO. I think he would have made a good POTUS but he would have faced the same problems that President Obama did and he wouldn't have been able to blame them on Bush. He would have had to taken the entire blame. President Obama is very lucky that he's been able to avoid the blame. I think we chose wisely in 2008 and it's to bad the idiots in the House are holding things up politically instead of embracing the idea that they need to help put and end to this War and the spending that is being poured into it. It's why Americans went to the Polls and elected President Obama and they were elected to create balance. Instead they built a road block. Huge mistake IMO. Negotiating fixes would have been a much better way of getting the Executive Branch back for the RNC. Now they face another 4 years of throwing up Road Blocks? It's not good for America. I expect many of them to be replaced that signed those Grover Norquist agreements.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Wow...you throw the truth out there and some people just come the **** unwound...LMAO!

[StoopTroup]

Unwound? Just talking. I know drive by comments are more popular but I thought this was a message board and the idea of a MB is to talk about it all.

I know some folks take the road of Copying and pasting other folks ideas around here....I just thought maybe it would be better to start a conversation.

My Bad.

Drive away.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Unwound? Just talking. I know drive by comments are more popular but I thought this was a message board and the idea of a MB is to talk about it all.

I know some folks take the road of Copying and pasting other folks ideas around here....I just thought maybe it would be better to start a conversation.

My Bad.

Drive away.Drive away? Hell, I'm at home...aint goin nowhere right now.
I half heartedly posted this thinking most people with common sense would think..."Hey, she has a point"(and she has a pretty damn good one).

However, the other half of my heart knew that there would be peep's making excuses for Obama...So, there ya have it...

[ictsooner7]

Get ya some Icky!!!

I'll bite.



Sandra Fluke = Bristol Palin



30 yr old law student third year law student going to talk about contraception to congress to voice concerns about her student insurance not covering contraception



17 yr old high school dropout, unwed, pregnant by a guy who did not marry her, born again "virgin", wannabe reality television personality cashing in on her politically made fame



You are so right they are identical!



Rush Limbaugh = Bill Maher



spiritual leader of the republican party, regularly speaks at CPAC, getting wild ovations, told republicans in congress to use every tactic to slow down congress and they did, every time a republican speaks out against him, they are forced to apologize, four times married, addicted to hillbilly heroin, arrested for doctor shopping getting 2,000 pills in six months goes on a three day diatribe calling a woman who just wants contraception covered in HER insurance a slut, a prostitute and demanding she she make pornography so he can watch, since he is paying for her contraception.



stand-up comedian, television host, political commentator, author, and actor cannot find where he has spoken at liberal conventions, has no influence in the democratic party, when a dem insults Maher we don't apologize.



YEP, got us there, they are equal.



Bristol is as ignorant and narcissistic as her mother.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I'll bite.



Sandra Fluke = Bristol Palin



30 yr old law student third year law student going to talk about contraception to congress to voice concerns about her student insurance not covering contraception



17 yr old high school dropout, unwed, pregnant by a guy who did not marry her, born again "virgin", wannabe reality television personality cashing in on her politically made fame



You are so right they are identical!



Rush Limbaugh = Bill Maher



spiritual leader of the republican party, regularly speaks at CPAC, getting wild ovations, told republicans in congress to use every tactic to slow down congress and they did, every time a republican speaks out against him, they are forced to apologize, four times married, addicted to hillbilly heroin, arrested for doctor shopping getting 2,000 pills in six months goes on a three day diatribe calling a woman who just wants contraception covered in HER insurance a slut, a prostitute and demanding she she make pornography so he can watch, since he is paying for her contraception.



stand-up comedian, television host, political commentator, author, and actor cannot find where he has spoken at liberal conventions, has no influence in the democratic party, when a dem insults Maher we don't apologize.



YEP, got us there, they are equal.



Bristol is as ignorant and narcissistic as her mother.I wouldn't expect any less from you...

[ictsooner7]

Wow...you throw the truth out there and some people just come the **** unwound...LMAO!


Truth - parallel universe


Who's the one freaking about about the this? YOU

[ictsooner7]

I wouldn't expect any less from you...

Tell me where I'm wrong. What facts are not correct?

[olevetonahill]

Tell me where I'm wrong. What facts are not correct?

You are so predictably EASY , She never dropped out dip****

Beginning in 2005, Bristol attended Juneau-Douglas High School and began dating Levi Johnston.[7][8] In 2008, she briefly lived in Anchorage with her aunt and uncle and attended West Anchorage High School. She returned to Wasilla and graduated from Wasilla High School in May 2009.[9][10]

[Turd_Ferguson]

You are so predictably EASY , She never dropped out dip****

Beginning in 2005, Bristol attended Juneau-Douglas High School and began dating Levi Johnston.[7][8] In 2008, she briefly lived in Anchorage with her aunt and uncle and attended West Anchorage High School. She returned to Wasilla and graduated from Wasilla High School in May 2009.[9][10] It wouldn't make a **** OV...The fact he would call her out for being a drop out is enough to show you what a hypocrite he is. If the roll's were reversed, he'd be crying about peeps coming down on a poor disenfranchised little girl.

[olevetonahill]

It wouldn't make a **** OV...The fact he would call her out for being a drop out is enough to show you what a hypocrite he is. If the roll's were reversed, he'd be crying about peeps coming down on a poor disenfranchised little girl.

What I cant wrap my head around is the fact these guys are sayin Bristol is fair game to a comedian because of her Mother. Yet a 30 year old woman is off limits to another comedian

[SicEmBaylor]

...hopefully she will be able to find a plan that covers mental health.

If there is one, I can now see why you'd support it.

[ictsooner7]

I wouldn't expect any less from you...

Nor I you, regurgitating from an knocked up at 17 unwed high school dropout who got her GED online. Baby at 17, drops out of high school, online GED, still being supported by her mother, sounds like white trash to me. Of course for republicans getting a GED makes her an elitist!

[Turd_Ferguson]

Nor I you, regurgitating from an knocked up at 17 unwed high school dropout who got her GED online. Baby at 17, drops out of high school, online GED, still being supported by her mother, sounds like white trash to me. Of course for republicans getting a GED makes her an elitist!You're a piece of work brother...

[olevetonahill]

You are so predictably EASY , She never dropped out dip****

Beginning in 2005, Bristol attended Juneau-Douglas High School and began dating Levi Johnston.[7][8] In 2008, she briefly lived in Anchorage with her aunt and uncle and attended West Anchorage High School. She returned to Wasilla and graduated from Wasilla High School in May 2009.[9][10]


Nor I you, regurgitating from an knocked up at 17 unwed high school dropout who got her GED online. Baby at 17, drops out of high school, online GED, still being supported by her mother, sounds like white trash to me. Of course for republicans getting a GED makes her an elitist!

You are funny

[StoopTroup]

If there is one, I can now see why you'd support it.

I support Healthcare. If there was no healthcare.....you wouldn't have been able to waste 7 years in Waco.

[StoopTroup]

Drive away? Hell, I'm at home...aint goin nowhere right now.
I half heartedly posted this thinking most people with common sense would think..."Hey, she has a point"(and she has a pretty damn good one).

However, the other half of my heart knew that there would be peep's making excuses for Obama...So, there ya have it...

I was happy for her on Dancing with the Stars. She needs money to support paying the Nanny.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I was happy for her on Dancing with the Stars. She needs money to support paying the Nanny.Yeah, kinda like I'm happy for Fluke asking for tax payer's to support her ****ing...

[SicEmBaylor]

I support Healthcare. If there was no healthcare.....you wouldn't have been able to waste 7 years in Waco.

This makes perfect sense and is in no way indicative of why you would ever need to avail yourself of Obamacare-provided mental health. Carry on as you were.

[olevetonahill]

Yeah, kinda like I'm happy for Fluke asking for tax payer's to support her ****ing...

Aint kinda funny how the Left thinks its OK to attack a minor who goes on to at least try to make sompun of herself and NEVER uses a dime Of Public assistance

[ictsooner7]

You are so predictably EASY , She never dropped out dip****

Beginning in 2005, Bristol attended Juneau-Douglas High School and began dating Levi Johnston.[7][8] In 2008, she briefly lived in Anchorage with her aunt and uncle and attended West Anchorage High School. She returned to Wasilla and graduated from Wasilla High School in May 2009.[9][10]

NO dip****, she did drop out hense graduating at 19 and using online courses to finish, took her four years to graduate. GED = DROPOUT

understand dumbass?

[ictsooner7]

Yeah, kinda like I'm happy for Fluke asking for tax payer's to support her ****ing...

How is she asking the taxpayer to support her?

[SicEmBaylor]

NO dip****, she did drop out hense graduating at 19 and using online courses to finish. GED = DROPOUT

understand dumbass?
Not everyone who has a GED is a dropout. I'm not saying this is the case with Bristol, but it should be said.

[Turd_Ferguson]

NO dip****, she did drop out hense graduating at 19 and using online courses to finish. GED = DROPOUT

understand dumbass?"hense"...Click the log off button. It's not that hard. After you do, go get some help...and by help, I mean common ****'n sense...

[StoopTroup]

Bristol seems quite stable. Honestly....If she felt that getting pregnant and having her Mother run for VP of the USA was hard.....those courses at Community College she took after getting her GED didn't do much good.

Did the Dancing with the Stars money pay for her new house or did Momma?


That month, Palin and her son began living in a condo she had purchased in Anchorage, where she was working at a dermatologist's office and taking business courses at a community college (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_college). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-PeopleStranger-67)[/URL] In July 2010, Palin and Johnston announced that they had reunited and were again engaged, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-68) but less than three weeks later, they ended their second engagement. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-70) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-72) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-74) In August 2010 she moved out of the condo and returned to her parents' home, and the couple reached an agreement giving primary custody to Palin and visitation rights and child support responsibility to Johnston. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-76)In December 2010, Palin purchased a five-bedroom house in Maricopa, Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maricopa,_Arizona), a suburb of Phoenix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix,_Arizona), for $172,000 in cash, according to Pinal County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinal_County,_Arizona) property records.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Palin#cite_note-78"]

She's got enough problems in her life by the sound of things. I just don't get why she would get involved in all of this Limbaugh stuff. She's had quite a hard time just being Abstinence Spokesperson for Candies. You'd think she'd learn the difference between good press and bad press.

[olevetonahill]

NO dip****, she did drop out hense graduating at 19 and using online courses to finish, took her four years to graduate. GED = DROPOUT

understand dumbass?

Keep up the Name callin. I love it when you talk dirty

By the way, You pretty dense aint ya?




Bristol Palin now a high school graduate
BY LAUREN JOHNSTON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, May 15, 2009

For at least a few hours on Thursday, Bristol Palin was just a regular kid.

The media spotlight on Palin, 19, hasn't wavered since her surprise pregnancy was revealed amid her mom Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's stint as Sen. John McCain's running mate in the presidential elections.

But Thursday, Palin looked as lighthearted as her fellow classmates as she accepted her high school diploma at the Wasilla Sports Complex, People magazine reports.

With one exception, that is.

She could been seen mouthing, "Where's my baby?" as she tried to spot her family and infant son Tripp in the crowd.

Even her mom wasn't sure the teen would rebound and finish school after having Tripp, but the Palin daughter told People she was determined to graduate. "I knew it would be hard work, but I knew I was going to do it," she said.

And as for mom Sarah, she said: "It's been a challenging and exciting year - her senior year - and I'm just so pleased that we are where we are today."

Bristol Palin - who has cut off contact from her baby's father Levy Johnston - says she will continue her work as an activist to help educate young women and prevent teen pregnancy.

She told People she hopes to attend a local college for a two-year business degree and then possibly work in real estate.

[ictsooner7]

"hense"...Click the log off button. It's not that hard. After you do, go get some help...and by help, I mean common ****'n sense...

Turdbucket.............can't take the truth.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Bristol seems quite stable. Honestly....If she felt that getting pregnant and having her Mother run for VP of the USA was hard.....those courses at Community College she took after getting her GED didn't do much good.

Did the Dancing with the Stars money pay for her new house or did Momma?



She's got enough problems in her life by the sound of things. I just don't get why she would get involved in all of this Limbaugh stuff. She's had quite a hard time just being Abstinence Spokesperson for Candies. You'd think she'd learn the difference between good press and bad press.So, good press is not calling out Obama and bad press is...Go tit.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Turdbucket.............can't take the truth.If by truth, you mean absolute ****ing silliness...then you're right, I can't.

[ictsooner7]

Keep up the Name callin. I love it when you talk dirty

By the way, You pretty dense aint ya?




Bristol Palin now a high school graduate
BY LAUREN JOHNSTON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, May 15, 2009

For at least a few hours on Thursday, Bristol Palin was just a regular kid.

The media spotlight on Palin, 19, hasn't wavered since her surprise pregnancy was revealed amid her mom Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's stint as Sen. John McCain's running mate in the presidential elections.

But Thursday, Palin looked as lighthearted as her fellow classmates as she accepted her high school diploma at the Wasilla Sports Complex, People magazine reports.

With one exception, that is.

She could been seen mouthing, "Where's my baby?" as she tried to spot her family and infant son Tripp in the crowd.

Even her mom wasn't sure the teen would rebound and finish school after having Tripp, but the Palin daughter told People she was determined to graduate. "I knew it would be hard work, but I knew I was going to do it," she said.

And as for mom Sarah, she said: "It's been a challenging and exciting year - her senior year - and I'm just so pleased that we are where we are today."

Bristol Palin - who has cut off contact from her baby's father Levy Johnston - says she will continue her work as an activist to help educate young women and prevent teen pregnancy.

She told People she hopes to attend a local college for a two-year business degree and then possibly work in real estate.

graduated at 19..............online courses. you can walk with a GED get a clue

[Turd_Ferguson]

graduated at 19..............online courses. you can walk with a GED get a cluePlease give me the link that show's she got a GED...

[StoopTroup]

NO dip****, she did drop out hense graduating at 19 and using online courses to finish, took her four years to graduate. GED = DROPOUT

understand dumbass?

Ummmm.....I'm not thinking there is a law against taking a break from School. I do know that there is a difference between Graduating from HS and a GED but either way I think Bristol tried to make it all OK after having her Baby and that's a lot more than many young Women are doing these days. My deal with her is that she seems to have called foul in the past and said that she got through tough times in her life via Prayer but now seems to be hell bent on getting herself involved in things that might make her money but also might not be a great thing to get involved with if you have had problems dealing with it all in the past. For me....it's seems she has some kind of learning disability by taking on this Story. She should go back to the lecture circuit but it would seem the last time she did the Student's complained about her $10,000-30,000 fee and the event was cancelled.

It would seem that working in a Dentist office isn't good enough and being able to live in a $172,000 Home in Phoenix requires you to make an income that answering the phones for a Dentist just can't support.

She is a very young and seemingly naive young woman IMO and I wish her the best but attacking a Political Shark Tank like her Mother did might not be the best way to go IMO.

I wish her luck but I don't support the new direction she is taking with her career as Abstinence Spokesperson.

She did Graduate HS though.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20279197,00.html

I do wonder if she worked at Denali Orthopedic Surgery after leaving the Dental Office....LOL

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/news/090525/bristol_palin1_320.jpg

[StoopTroup]

Please give me the link that show's she got a GED...

There isn't one. It does seem they worked with her to get enough credit to Graduate without having to go to Classes and probably disrupt the kids who were Seniors when she did go back. I'm guessing she wanted to be able to actually go through the Graduation as there are pics of her in her Cap n Gown.

She did well in School and compared to many kids.....she's no dummy but lets not get carried away.....she's not Valedictorian at Harvard University either.

[ictsooner7]

Please give me the link that show's she got a GED...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008579422_eye01.html


"The governor said her daughter is enrolled in regular high school and has taken correspondence courses."

[ictsooner7]

Ummmm.....I'm not thinking there is a law against taking a break from School. I do know that there is a difference between Graduating from HS and a GED but either way I think Bristol tried to make it all OK after having her Baby and that's a lot more than many young Women are doing these days. My deal with her is that she seems to have called foul in the past and said that she got through tough times in her life via Prayer but now seems to be hell bent on getting herself involved in things that might make her money but also might not be a great thing to get involved with if you have had problems dealing with it all in the past. For me....it's seems she has some kind of learning disability by taking on this Story. She should go back to the lecture circuit but it would seem the last time she did the Student's complained about her $10,000-30,000 fee and the event was cancelled.

It would seem that working in a Dentist office isn't good enough and being able to live in a $172,000 Home in Phoenix requires you to make an income that answering the phones for a Dentist just can't support.

She is a very young and seemingly naive young woman IMO and I wish her the best but attacking a Political Shark Tank like her Mother did might not be the best way to go IMO.

I wish her luck but I don't support the new direction she is taking with her career as Abstinence Spokesperson.

She did Graduate HS though.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20279197,00.html

I do wonder if she worked at Denali Orthopedic Surgery after leaving the Dental Office....LOL

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/news/090525/bristol_palin1_320.jpg

Taking a break from school = dropping out

[Turd_Ferguson]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008579422_eye01.html


"The governor said her daughter is enrolled in regular high school and has taken correspondence courses."You still haven't proved she took a GED course...Still waiting.

[olevetonahill]

Taking a break from school = dropping out
So seems Miss. Fluke is a drop out then also..

Oh and just so every one knows She does want the Tax payer to foot the Bill for EVERYTHING

Sandra Fluke graduated from Cornell University in 2003 and spent five years working for Sanctuary for Families. Sandra Fluke is a Public Interest Law Scholar at Georgetown Law, due to graduate in 2012.[6] While at Georgetown University Law Center,[7][8] she authored a paper in The Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law titled "Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons",[9][non-primary source needed] where she argues that free gender reassignment is a universal human right. She is development editor of that Journal for 2011–2012.[10][6] Fluke was also active in campus protests at Georgetown University demanding the University do away with its moral objection to contraception coverage.[11]

[ictsooner7]

You still haven't proved she took a GED course...Still waiting.

I took correspondence courses to mean ged, i could be wrong.

[olevetonahill]

I took correspondence courses to mean ged, i could be wrong.

Stop the Presses, We have a Headline.

[ictsooner7]

So seems Miss. Fluke is a drop out then also..

Oh and just so every one knows She does want the Tax payer to foot the Bill for EVERYTHING

Sandra Fluke graduated from Cornell University in 2003 and spent five years working for Sanctuary for Families. Sandra Fluke is a Public Interest Law Scholar at Georgetown Law, due to graduate in 2012.[6] While at Georgetown University Law Center,[7][8] she authored a paper in The Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law titled "Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons",[9][non-primary source needed] where she argues that free gender reassignment is a universal human right. She is development editor of that Journal for 2011–2012.[10][6] Fluke was also active in campus protests at Georgetown University demanding the University do away with its moral objection to contraception coverage.[11]

Sandra Fluke graduated from Cornell University in 2003

How stupid can you be?

[olevetonahill]

Sandra Fluke graduated from Cornell University in 2003

How stupid can you be?
Not as dumb as YOU , She DROPPED out after that before Going back to Law skool
Pay Tention

[StoopTroup]

Fluke vs Bristol

I'm gonna take Fluke in a debate.

Of course winning a debate doesn't make you right or wrong....it's meerly winning a debate.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Fluke vs Bristol

I'm gonna take Fluke in a debate.

Of course winning a debate doesn't make you right or wrong....it's meerly winning a debate.Yeah, so what's your point?

[StoopTroup]

Yeah, so what's your point?

Education is better than getting knocked up and hoping your Mom becomes famous so that you can get on Dancing with the Stars.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Education is better than getting knocked up and hoping your Mom becomes famous so that you can get on Dancing with the Stars.So, a young woman that gets knocked up is stupid. Go tit. How do you know she was HOPING her mother would become famous?

[OU_Sooners75]

I'll bite.



Sandra Fluke = Bristol Palin



30 yr old law student third year law student going to talk about contraception to congress to voice concerns about her student insurance not covering contraception



17 yr old high school dropout, unwed, pregnant by a guy who did not marry her, born again "virgin", wannabe reality television personality cashing in on her politically made fame



You are so right they are identical!



Rush Limbaugh = Bill Maher



spiritual leader of the republican party, regularly speaks at CPAC, getting wild ovations, told republicans in congress to use every tactic to slow down congress and they did, every time a republican speaks out against him, they are forced to apologize, four times married, addicted to hillbilly heroin, arrested for doctor shopping getting 2,000 pills in six months goes on a three day diatribe calling a woman who just wants contraception covered in HER insurance a slut, a prostitute and demanding she she make pornography so he can watch, since he is paying for her contraception.



stand-up comedian, television host, political commentator, author, and actor cannot find where he has spoken at liberal conventions, has no influence in the democratic party, when a dem insults Maher we don't apologize.



YEP, got us there, they are equal.



Bristol is as ignorant and narcissistic as her mother.

This has got to the best stupidest ****ing post I have ever seen on this site...and that is saying something. Especially since you made a **** load of them in the past under your previous handle!

[OU_Sooners75]

Taking a break from school = dropping out

You are one dumb son of a bitch, aren't you?

My Ex has a GED...she got it after giving birth to her oldest son.

I can almost guarantee you that she makes a lot more financially than most on this site, and yes, she does have a college degree.

GED =/= stupid.

Someone dropping out of school and not going back to do anything like get a GED = stupid.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Someone dropping out of school and not going back to do anything like get a GED = stupid.Hey! Some of us had to quit in the 4th grade to go cut broom corn ya heartless bastard!!!

[TUSooner]

See, it's like this: Not even Obama pays attention to Maher, and he doesn't want his daughters to know about him.

The funniest putdown of Maher was when someone called him "inexplicably self-satisfied." I think Maher wants to be another HL Mencken, but he lacks the subtlety, charm, and grace. (If you read Mencken you'll see I made a real funny joke... Or maybe not.)

[Turd_Ferguson]

See, it's like this: Not even Obama pays attention to Maher, and he doesn't want his daughters to know about him. How do you know this?

[Chuck Bao]

I really shouldn't comment in this thread because I'll readily admit I have a bias against anyone calling someone else a slut. Male, female it don't matter.

If Bristol was called a slut, I must of missed it. I regret that I didn't speak up at that time. But, it didn't help her cause that her mother was too busy preaching to the rest of us about personal responsibility to notice that her daughter might be getting a little too friendly without proper protection.

So now, Bristol has leaked to the press her letter to President Obama about how she was disrespected and feeling that the President has double standards in calling out Rush for labeling a woman willing to testify about the effectiveness of public paid for birth control as a slut.

Seriously? Have we really gone that far?

[Turd_Ferguson]

I really shouldn't comment in this thread because I'll readily admit I have a biasYes, you do. If the things said about Bristol were said about Obama's daughter's...this ****'n board would crash from all you left wing loons going ape ****...

[olevetonahill]

Chuck, Seems Most of the lefties here are sayin it was OK for Bristol to be called names in the guise of its Only a "Comedian" But when the Far right Comedin calls a Law Student a slut thats just horrible .
I agree No One should have been casting aspersions on either girls character.

Bristol is quite simply and very effectively I might add. The Hypocrisy of Obama calling Fluke after Rush called HER a slut and not Saying a word about what Maher said about HER

Its a tuff situation for Obama . If he ignores this then Hes painted as a two faced Prick, If he Responds then hes cavin to pressure
Catch 22

[Chuck Bao]

Yes, you do. If the things said about Bristol were said about Obama's daughter's...this ****'n board would crash from all you left wing loons going ape ****...

Obama's daughters are preggars? Huh? Yeah, if that were true this board and every message board in the country would absolutely go ape **** crazy. But, I don't think so.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Obama's daughters are preggars? Huh? Yeah, if that were true this board and every message board in the country would absolutely go ape **** crazy. But, I don't think so.Sense...make some.

[Chuck Bao]

Chuck, Seems Most of the lefties here are sayin it was OK for Bristol to be called names in the guise of its Only a "Comedian" But when the Far right Comedin calls a Law Student a slut thats just horrible .
I agree No One should have been casting aspersions on either girls character.

Bristol is quite simply and very effectively I might add. The Hypocrisy of Obama calling Fluke after Rush called HER a slut and not Saying a word about what Maher said about HER

Its a tuff situation for Obama . If he ignores this then Hes painted as a two faced Prick, If he Responds then hes cavin to pressure
Catch 22

Bro, I think that you're getting the wrong end of the stick here. Let's pretend that our world is actually better than it is and Bristol had access to free birth control pills. Ya thank she'd be criticized for that?

This whole unfortunate thing is tied into the Republican right wing nutso religious thing about a soul being created when a man spurts his juice into a woman's hoohaa. Hence, a woman on birth control is a slut. A woman who shuns birth control and carries the baby is a saint (well except for that bit about not being married). Bristol probably still thinks that she is a role model or she wouldn't have leaked that letter to President Obama.

[olevetonahill]

Bro, I think that you're getting the wrong end of the stick here. Let's pretend that our world is actually better than it is and Bristol had access to free birth control pills. Ya thank she'd be criticized for that?

This whole unfortunate thing is tied into the Republican right wing nutso religious thing about a soul being created when a man spurts his juice into a woman's hoohaa. Hence, a woman on birth control is a slut. A woman who shuns birth control and carries the baby is a saint (well except for that bit about not being married). Bristol probably still thinks that she is a role model or she wouldn't have leaked that letter to President Obama.

And yer digging too deep. Its all a Political game.

The premise is Rusj called Fluke a slut and HE got hammered, Maher refered to a C**T and then donates a million bucks a few years later and Hes just a comedian .

Come on Obama Cant condemn ONE with condemning the other
Its as simple as that

[olevetonahill]

http://news.yahoo.com/bristol-palin-sets-perfect-catch-22-president-obama-203800257.html

[cleller]

Sure is a lot of calling women profane names going on around here. Its low class and unmanly.

Rush was wrong. Bill Maher was wrong, and has really plumbed the depths of degrading. What a way to try and make yourself look clever.

[StoopTroup]

So, a young woman that gets knocked up is stupid. Go tit. How do you know she was HOPING her mother would become famous?

Her Mother was already Gov. when she got knocked up and she was getting notice or McCain wouldn't have ever known who she was. As far as I know he didn't really even know her at all when he asked her to be his running mate but she was pretty popular in the RNC at that point. So....as far as having a Famous Mother is concerned....Bristol definitely knew things were changing around the Palin House. When you go to School and your are pretty and your Momma is the Cougar/**** Gov of the Great State of Alaska and your Dad is everyone's favorite fishing buddy.....it's not to surprising that some kid named Levi jumped her bones and fertilized her ovaries with gallons of his man milk. :D

Also....I'm not calling her stupid...just a Naive young Woman.

The Fluke Gal is obviously a very well educated Woman who has also found a cause to support as a friend of her's has had a pretty difficult health problem that Doctors felt could be helped by the use of Birth Control Meds. Now it's true that Birth Control meds might be seen as a unneeded medicine for some gal that just wants to go out to bars while she's in college and see how many different Johnstons she can try out or expose her vagina to but I think from what she was trying to explain was that her friend was diagnosed with an actual medical problem that a certain Birth Control Medicine could be used to improve her health and quality of life. So....I don't really understand why Limbaugh felt the need to call her and her friends all sluts when it's pretty well understood in the medical community that Women have been able to improve their health and avoid unwanted pregnancies by using Birth Control for over 40 years. To suddenly go blathering on about any Woman using Birth Control is a slut or a prostitute is pretty much stirring up a pot of BS that really didn't need to be stirred and his doing it anyway shows just how desperate he is to keep his ratings going. Now that he's possibly lost many Sponsors and possibly stands the risk of never having a syndicated Radio Program like he has again....many folks are suddenly coming to his aid.

I'm not one of them. He's used this type of humor his entire career. IMO you live by the sword and you die by the sword. If he's as good at being a Radio Personality as he thinks he is....he will be able to make a comeback again and doesn't need Bristol or Sarah's Help in getting there.

Don Imus made his own mistakes and has figured out how to make his way back into doing what he loves....so with Rushbow.

Bristol needs to get a job and let the Father of her Child spend time with his kid, especially if she's going to go on these trips around the US making a living. I think the kid would be better off with the Father and being able to go to school with his friends and have some stability in his life rather than a Mother that depends on putting herself in the limelight of Politics in order to make a living. She should maybe let him raise her child and go back to school so she can run for office, be a Civil Servant and show her Mother how it's supposed to be done instead of follow her footsteps like Mellisa Rivers has followed her Mom in order to stay relevant. :D

[Turd_Ferguson]

Sure is a lot of calling women profane names going on around here. Its low class and unmanly.

Rush was wrong. Bill Maher was wrong, and has really plumbed the depths of degrading. What a way to try and make yourself look clever.I agree. However, I do think a was a good way to show the hypocrisy...

[Turd_Ferguson]

Her Mother was already Gov. when she got knocked up and she was getting notice or McCain wouldn't have ever known who she was. As far as I know he didn't really even know her at all when he asked her to be his running mate but she was pretty popular in the RNC at that point. So....as far as having a Famous Mother is concerned....Bristol definitely knew things were changing around the Palin House. When you go to School and your are pretty and your Momma is the Cougar/**** Gov of the Great State of Alaska and your Dad is everyone's favorite fishing buddy.....it's not to surprising that some kid named Levi jumped her bones and fertilized her ovaries with gallons of his man milk. :D

Also....I'm not calling her stupid...just a Naive young Woman.

The Fluke Gal is obviously a very well educated Woman who has also found a cause to support as a friend of her's has had a pretty difficult health problem that Doctors felt could be helped by the use of Birth Control Meds. Now it's true that Birth Control meds might be seen as a unneeded medicine for some gal that just wants to go out to bars while she's in college and see how many different Johnstons she can try out or expose her vagina to but I think from what she was trying to explain was that her friend was diagnosed with an actual medical problem that a certain Birth Control Medicine could be used to improve her health and quality of life. So....I don't really understand why Limbaugh felt the need to call her and her friends all sluts when it's pretty well understood in the medical community that Women have been able to improve their health and avoid unwanted pregnancies by using Birth Control for over 40 years. To suddenly go blathering on about any Woman using Birth Control is a slut or a prostitute is pretty much stirring up a pot of BS that really didn't need to be stirred and his doing it anyway shows just how desperate he is to keep his ratings going. Now that he's possibly lost many Sponsors and possibly stands the risk of never having a syndicated Radio Program like he has again....many folks are suddenly coming to his aid.

I'm not one of them. He's used this type of humor his entire career. IMO you live by the sword and you die by the sword. If he's as good at being a Radio Personality as he thinks he is....he will be able to make a comeback again and doesn't need Bristol or Sarah's Help in getting there.

Don Imus made his own mistakes and has figured out how to make his way back into doing what he loves....so with Rushbow.

Bristol needs to get a job and let the Father of her Child spend time with his kid, especially if she's going to go on these trips around the US making a living. I think the kid would be better off with the Father and being able to go to school with his friends and have some stability in his life rather than a Mother that depends on putting herself in the limelight of Politics in order to make a living. She should maybe let him raise her child and go back to school so she can run for office, be a Civil Servant and show her Mother how it's supposed to be done instead of follow her footsteps like Mellisa Rivers has followed her Mom in order to stay relevant. :DGreg...I love ya. I'm not going to keep reading these novels...please give me the short version...and yes, that's what my wife say's:D

[Chuck Bao]

http://news.yahoo.com/bristol-palin-sets-perfect-catch-22-president-obama-203800257.html

Sorry, but that's just dumb, even dumb for a Palin.

[diverdog]

And yer digging too deep. Its all a Political game.

The premise is Rusj called Fluke a slut and HE got hammered, Maher refered to a C**T and then donates a million bucks a few years later and Hes just a comedian .

Come on Obama Cant condemn ONE with condemning the other
Its as simple as that

There is a double standard. Maher is a comedian and is allowed to get away with it. Plus he does not have sponsors. Rush does. There is also a different standard for public citizens....like politicians then there are for private citizens. If the Republicans want to wage war on comedy they lose. No one takes Maher seriously. Millions follow the very rules Rush lays out and he is a political operative and held to a much higher standard.

Maher's donation to a PAC is beyond Obama's control. By law he cannot have a thing to do with it.

Having said all this I think both Rush and Maher were wrong. Our political system would be much better off without both those bozo's.

[soonerhubs]

There is a double standard. Maher is a comedian and is allowed to get away with it. Plus he does not have sponsors. Rush does. There is also a different standard for public citizens....like politicians then there are for private citizens. If the Republicans want to wage war on comedy they lose. No one takes Maher seriously. Millions follow the very rules Rush lays out and he is a political operative and held to a much higher standard.

Maher's donation to a PAC is beyond Obama's control. By law he cannot have a thing to do with it.

Having said all this I think both Rush and Maher were wrong. Our political system would be much better off without both those bozo's.

Agreed. I think the egos of both of these blowhards truly contribute to the numerous less-than-civil political discussions that take place across this nation.

I personally prefer political humor in the more satirical form. Will Rogers was one of the best of these. I honestly feel that Colbert also fits this type. It's not seen so much as mean spirited, yet it has subtle overtones that point out the numerous flaws found in so many political philosophies.

[soonerhubs]

Speaking of Colbert, I just have to post this link to a hulu clip. :)

Enjoy!


http://www.hulu.com/watch/340639/the-colbert-report-rick-santorum-thinks-puerto-rico-should-speak-english-and-speaks-from-his-heart#s-p1-sr-i1


"Shocking!!! And... it turns out... not true." :D
Speaking from my heart! :)

[pphilfran]

Tasteless...both sides...tasteless...

[olevetonahill]

Theres got to be sompun wrong with you people who think It was OK for Maher to say and do what He did , Yet scream for Rush's head
Just sompun ****in WRONG

[pphilfran]

Vet, what the hell are you doing over here?

You once prided yourself with not getting into the sludge pit...

And now you are wallowing around like a pig in slop...


I have lost all respect for you man....all respect... :)

[Curly Bill]

Theres got to be sompun wrong with you people who think It was OK for Maher to say and do what He did , Yet scream for Rush's head
Just sompun ****in WRONG

There is something wrong with em - they be stupid!

[olevetonahill]

Vet, what the hell are you doing over here?

You once prided yourself with not getting into the sludge pit...

And now you are wallowing around like a pig in slop...


I have lost all respect for you man....all respect... :)

Ill try not to cry myself to sleep over yer feelings :unconscious:


Yet If ya look close , Im usually just baiting Hooks and ****
I never talk politics Per Se., Just comment on certain issues . I dont Give a big Rats *** about the Dems Or the Pubs. Sides the SO is dead . 1/2 these threads could be there cause they aint Politics fer real just Opinions

[OULenexaman]

My bet is this is the only forum that has anything going on...the rest are morgues now.

[olevetonahill]

There is something wrong with em - they be stupid!

:adoration::unconscious:

[olevetonahill]

My bet is this is the only forum that has anything going on...the rest are morgues now.

Yup. where else am I posed to fish?:unconscious:

[OULenexaman]

plenty of carp in this pond...

[olevetonahill]

plenty of carp in this pond...

:congratulatory:

[Ton Loc]

Hell, a battle of the retards and I'm not involved? WTF? Even vet is sucked in.

This topic is just dumb enough to derseve this level of attention.

I don't know why Obama called that girl. Maher is an ******* who I occasionaly find funny. Expecting Obama to call every person that Maher has in some way offended = Not enough time in the day.

[Curly Bill]

plenty of crap in this pond...

Plenty of carp...and crap. ;)

[StoopTroup]

Hell, a battle of the retards and I'm not involved? WTF? Even vet is sucked in.

This topic is just dumb enough to derseve this level of attention.
K
I don't know why Obama called that girl. Maher is an ******* who I occasionaly find funny. Expecting Obama to call every person that Maher has in some way offended = Not enough time in the day.

Great summation. So funny that the Barack Hatas are jumping on the POTUS when all of us know he's just trying to get Michelle to be impressed and give up the booty so he can have a Son to take to Basketball Games by the end of his 2nd Term. :D

[Ton Loc]

Great summation. So funny that the Barack Hatas are jumping on the POTUS when all of us know he's just trying to get Michelle to be impressed and give up the booty so he can have a Son to take to Basketball Games by the end of his 2nd Term. :D

Thats a great plan that any man should be able to identify with. Plus, having a pregnant wife next to you during your reelection run isn't a bad thing either.

Also, when you're defending Bristol Palin, you've already lost the argument.

[olevetonahill]

Thats a great plan that any man should be able to identify with. Plus, having a pregnant wife next to you during your reelection run isn't a bad thing either.

Also, when you're defending Bristol Palin, you've already lost the argument.
Why is that?

[Curly Bill]

Why is that?

Cause she's a conservative female and conservative females are apparently the debil.

[olevetonahill]

Cause she's a conservative female and conservative females are apparently the debil.
My Bad. What was I thinkin ?

[Ton Loc]

No problem defending a teenager who makes horrible choices that seeks attention while offering up zero redeeming qualities other than being a VP candidate's daughter.

I'm just saying. There are better people you could defend. Conservative or not.

[olevetonahill]

No problem defending a teenager who makes horrible choices that seeks attention while offering up zero redeeming qualities other than being a VP candidate's daughter.

I'm just saying. There are better people you could defend. Conservative or not.

Ok Numnuts. Whos defending her in the 1st place? This is about Obamas and the lefts Hypocrisy on condemning Rush while Giving maher a pass.

[Ton Loc]

Oh, I thought it was about an attention whore seeking out an apology versus a chick who never asked for anything.

[olevetonahill]

Oh, I thought it was about an attention whore seeking out an apology versus a chick who never asked for anything.

What hell you smokin BOY.
This Fluke broad is as big a Tention Ho as there is.
She wanting Subsidized BC pills , Taxpayer Sex change Ops fer anyone who wants one etc.

Step back from yer crack pipe fer a while

[Ton Loc]

Well, she asked in the appropriate place. Presented her case, blah, blah, blah. Regardless of how dumb or slutty it may seem to be. Bristol's email was leaked and is nothing more than self promotion and attention grabbing probably written by someone else.

Either way, both of them didn't deserve the response they got from the super blow hardy buttholes that are rush and Maher.

No biggie. I realize Bristol is on the home team, but damn she's a worthless member.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Is the point that two wrongs make a right?

The President isn't responsible for something a late night comedian says on a cable channel. Bristol Palin, unlike Fluke, is a public figure. She has already cashed in big on her young mother routine. She's fair game to be lampooned. Fluke, on the other hand, is a private person, not fair game.\
Fluke is not a private person, she is a dem opperative = FAIR GAME...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

This is about Obamas and the lefts Hypocrisy on condemning Rush while Giving maher a pass.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS BIG TIME!!!!

[Turd_Ferguson]

Don't know why peeps keep saying Bristol leaked something...She posted it on her blog.

[Midtowner]

\
Fluke is not a private person, she is a dem opperative = FAIR GAME...

At best, she's a limited purpose public figure. That's not going to grant you license to call her a slut.

[Ton Loc]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS BIG TIME!!!!

HILARIOUS AND HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, who gives a ****? You want your president apoligizing and calling people all day every day everytime some dickweed opens his mouth.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

No, O'Bummer should have never called Fluke and made a big deal about Rush.

[Ton Loc]

Don't know why peeps keep saying Bristol leaked something...She posted it on her blog.

I should have put it in quotations. That's how I read it this morning on yahoo or msnbc or whatever it was. The title of the story actually said "leaked".

[Turd_Ferguson]

I should have put it in quotations. That's how I read it this morning on yahoo or msnbc or whatever it was. The title of the story actually said "leaked".Leaked sounds much more controversial to the MSM.

[Ton Loc]

No, O'Bummer should have never called Fluke and made a big deal about Rush.

Its all politics, she's on his team, she's being attacked by a slimeball, and he has an opportunity to make some good press. I don't know why its so shocking he would call her and not Bristol. Hell, Bristol gets attacked all the time by everyone. Of course, that was when she was still in her 15 minutes of fame. Why is she looking for an apology now. (I think we all know why)

[TUSooner]

How about this:

Asking for Gubment-subsidized contraception = arguably poor public policy

Not using contraception you could easily afford and obtain without a Gubment subsidy, and thushaving a baby out-of-wedlock when you are 17 = inarguably poor personal policy.

[Turd_Ferguson]

How about this:

Asking for Gubment-subsidized contraception = arguably poor public policy

Not using contraception you could easily afford and obtain without a Gubment subsidy, and thushaving a baby out-of-wedlock when you are 17 = inarguably poor personal policy.How bout that? Does it make you feel better?

[TUSooner]

How bout that? Does it make you feel better?

Just trying to make an observation without calling a bunch of people hypocrites and morons and wing-nuts and stuff. You don't have to like it, and it doesn't even make me very happy if it annoys you. It did induce you to write two complete sentences, though! That's something. :)

[olevetonahill]

How about this:

Asking for Gubment-subsidized contraception = arguably poor public policy

Not using contraception you could easily afford and obtain without a Gubment subsidy, and thushaving a baby out-of-wedlock when you are 17 = inarguably poor personal policy.

Kev. Big difference between a 17year old making a Mistake and a 30 year old activist
Jes sayin

[ictsooner7]

Kev. Big difference between a 17year old making a Mistake and a 30 year old activist

Jes sayin

Great job of minimizing palins actions, typical rightwingnut. If palin were the daughter of a democrat you would be screaming how this is proof how democrats are ruining the morals of American. I still laugh when i think of the buttons at the republican convention, I SUPPORT UNWED MOTHERS, what a joke.



Unwed, 17 yr old high school girl having unprotected sex out side of marriage when her mom made her political bones with her religious views - 30 yr old college graduate, third year law student wanting to talk about how a ruling would personally affect her, your right HUGE difference.

[olevetonahill]

Great job of minimizing palins actions, typical rightwingnut. If palin were the daughter of a democrat you would be screaming how this is proof how democrats are ruining the morals of American. I still laugh when i think of the buttons at the republican convention, I SUPPORT UNWED MOTHERS, what a joke.



Unwed, 17 yr old high school girl having unprotected sex out side of marriage when her mom made her political bones with her religious views - 30 yr old college graduate, third year law student wanting to talk about how a ruling would personally affect her, your right HUGE difference.

I am neither Minimizing Nor Defending here, Einstein.

Obama opened THIS door By calling Fluke in support of her after Rush did his attack dog carp on her.
Just pointing out the Obvious to the Oblivious

[achiro]

So basically the only ones that can't see that liberals are hypocrites are the liberal hypocrites.

[olevetonahill]

So basically the only ones that can't see that liberals are hypocrites are the liberal hypocrites.

Think yer on to sompun there My friend

[ictsooner7]

I am neither Minimizing Nor Defending here, Einstein.

Obama opened THIS door By calling Fluke in support of her after Rush did his attack dog carp on her.
Just pointing out the Obvious to the Oblivious

A life altering event a mistake? Minimizing, Delmar.

druggie opened this door by going on for three days about fluke. carp? really?

[olevetonahill]

A life altering event a mistake? Minimizing, Delmar.

druggie opened this door by going on for three days about fluke. carp? really?

Just what kinda Meds are YOU on?

[ictsooner7]

Just what kinda Meds are YOU on?

It's laughable that you just don't get it, or you refuse to admit you do. This is why we laugh at republicans. I SUPPORT UNWED MOTHERS.

[cleller]

It's laughable that you just don't get it, or you refuse to admit you do. This is why we laugh at republicans. I SUPPORT UNWED MOTHERS.

Women that conceive children without assuring they have a father, stable family and financial security are irresponsible. They are eroding the fabric of our country and contributing to dependence on the government. Parents should raise children, not the government.

I do not support them. The government forces me to subsidize them. People should be responsible for their actions, not dependent on others.

[ictsooner7]

Women that conceive children without assuring they have a father, stable family and financial security are irresponsible. I do not support them. They are eroding the fabric of our country and contributing to dependence on the government. Parents should raise children, not the government.

So Bristol Plain is irresponsible and eroding the fabric of our country. Yep, too bad all women don't have a mother with a government job she can cash in on to raise thier illegitimate children. Your party sure supports them, as long as they are republican.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ec.02.html

KENDAL UNRUH, REPUBLICAN DELEGATE: Well, McCain was not my first choice when I first had a pick of all of the potential nominees. And, as a values voter and an evangelical conservative, let's just say that there's been a history of mistrust with McCain.

I actually served on the platform committee and I came here with the very strong intention of keeping the core party principles very conservative.

And what I can tell you is, with the selection of Sarah Palin, whom values voters had actually been championing for several months now, it completely energized the base.

BASH: Now, show me what's on your hat.

UNRUH: Sure.

BASH: Because this is what drew us to you.

UNRUH: You bet.

BASH: Turn that around, so our viewers can see what it says there.

UNRUH: Well...

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Particularly, "I support unwed mothers."

UNRUH: I do.

BASH: That's something that you made?

UNRUH: I did. I had to make these out of hotel coasters.

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Why? Why did you make a button that says "I support unwed mothers"?

UNRUH: Well, certainly, there's not a vendor that is emphatically stating how I feel.

But there's been a media fight and there's been a liberal-agenda- driven fight against a 17-year-old gal who made an unfortunate decision. And she's dealing with the consequences of that decision. And all the unwed pregnancy is doing is endearing us more to Sarah Palin, because what it shows is, she not only talks the talk, but she walks the walk with her value system, and he instilled the values, the sanctity of life and human dignity into her child. And she then made the choice to continue with a pregnancy, even as embarrassing politically as it was for her.

They made great, great decisions.

[Ton Loc]

Women that conceive children without assuring they have a father, stable family and financial security are irresponsible. I do not support them. They are eroding the fabric of our country and contributing to dependence on the government. Parents should raise children, not the government.

I agree with you, but that isn't happening unless we do a couple of things. We can start taking birth control more seriously. And we can damn sure start taking marriage and family more serious. Damn, it isn't hard. Get a job. Get a family. Love each other. We can have our stupid message board arguments, but don't be complete dicks to each other.

[Ton Loc]

So Bristol Plain is irresponsible and eroding the fabric of our country. Yep, too bad all women don't have a mother with a government job she can cash in on to raise thier illegitimate children. Your party sure supports them, as long as they are republican.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ec.02.html

KENDAL UNRUH, REPUBLICAN DELEGATE: Well, McCain was not my first choice when I first had a pick of all of the potential nominees. And, as a values voter and an evangelical conservative, let's just say that there's been a history of mistrust with McCain.

I actually served on the platform committee and I came here with the very strong intention of keeping the core party principles very conservative.

And what I can tell you is, with the selection of Sarah Palin, whom values voters had actually been championing for several months now, it completely energized the base.

BASH: Now, show me what's on your hat.

UNRUH: Sure.

BASH: Because this is what drew us to you.

UNRUH: You bet.

BASH: Turn that around, so our viewers can see what it says there.

UNRUH: Well...

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Particularly, "I support unwed mothers."

UNRUH: I do.

BASH: That's something that you made?

UNRUH: I did. I had to make these out of hotel coasters.

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Why? Why did you make a button that says "I support unwed mothers"?

UNRUH: Well, certainly, there's not a vendor that is emphatically stating how I feel.

But there's been a media fight and there's been a liberal-agenda- driven fight against a 17-year-old gal who made an unfortunate decision. And she's dealing with the consequences of that decision. And all the unwed pregnancy is doing is endearing us more to Sarah Palin, because what it shows is, she not only talks the talk, but she walks the walk with her value system, and he instilled the values, the sanctity of life and human dignity into her child. And she then made the choice to continue with a pregnancy, even as embarrassing politically as it was for her.

They made great, great decisions.

Please don't associate ICT with all liberals. Or at least the people that might be more liberal in the social area but more conservative everywhere else.

Sorry ICT, but there are points to be made, and then there is the way you do it. Although, I suspect your just someone's alternate identity just created to screw with people.

[StoopTroup]

This makes perfect sense and is in no way indicative of why you would ever need to avail yourself of Obamacare-provided mental health. Carry on as you were.

I saw the mental wards that our Country had prior to them losing the money they needed to remain open. They indeed became places that didn't offer the best care for many Americans but closing them led to homeless wanders on the Streets of America. After seeing both situations I can say this with facts that back me up and IMO are indefensible by you or anyone that thinks the way things are are the best way of handling folks that have mental problems. The old mental wards, as bad as they were, best the hell out of how mentally challenged are treated these days. Anyone that thinks the private sector in America will take care of it's own are completely delusional. Folks like you who have never really had to be responsible for your children and think that watching someone else write the check for Family Members that aren't able to take care of themselves aren't really involved. You are just an observer. Being an observer doesn't make you an expert. It just makes you an a$$hole with a huge pie hole.

[cleller]

Like I said, I don't support unwed mothers. Don't care who it is. If they can support themselves, they can do their own thing. If not, their family, adoption, etc, are all acceptable.

There is no reason the government should support them. We just can't afford it. You want to talk about the vanishing middle class, etc? Look no further.

Just to keep the record straight. If Palin and Obama were running against each other, I'd vote for Obama. I don't think Palin is capable in any sense at that level of government. She's been divisive, and and generally negative for the Republican party.

Still, Bill Maher is a spineless little non-man for his comment toward her.

[ictsooner7]

Please don't associate ICT with all liberals. Or at least the people that might be more liberal in the social area but more conservative everywhere else.

Sorry ICT, but there are points to be made, and then there is the way you do it. Although, I suspect your just someone's alternate identity just created to screw with people.

Fine don't. I am a red meat liberal, I'm not going to take any **** from conservatives and they can't take what they dish out. If you think this is some alternate identity to screw with people, you really don't have a clue. I get on there and see the ignorance and lies spewed from these conservatives then when I show them facts and data they refuse to believe it. ALL of their threads come straight from rightwing websites, limbaugh and rnc talking points.

I am extremely liberal socially, I really don't care what consenting adults do and my marriage is strong enough that two men or two women getting married does not threaten my marriage. As for abortion and contraception, if you don't like it don't us it. As for paying for things your don't like I pay for a hell of a lot of things I don't like, tax breaks to oil companies and war in Iraq just to name two, you don't see me jumping up and down claiming my freedoms are being trampled on, majority is suppose to rule and a majority doesn't want them to be illegal.

[ictsooner7]

Like I said, I don't support unwed mothers. Don't care who it is. If they can support themselves, they can do their own thing. If not, their family, adoption, etc, are all acceptable.

There is no reason the government should support them. We just can't afford it. You want to talk about the vanishing middle class, etc? Look no further.

Just to keep the record straight. If Palin and Obama were running against each other, I'd vote for Obama. I don't think Palin is capable in any sense at that level of government. She's been divisive, and and generally negative for the Republican party.

Still, Bill Maher is a spineless little non-man for his comment toward her.

Do you really truly think the vanishing middle class is because the government is supporting unwed mothers your really need to look at your paycheck stub. Look at how much taxes are being taken out, then look at federal spending and how much is being spent on unwed mothers, TRULY SPENT, not rightwing claim being spent, and the average middle class tax payer wouldn't see much of an increase. The real reason the middle class is vanishing is that since 1980 real income has remained almost flat for all but the top earners. Several reasons for this, the loss of good manufacturing jobs, union membership declining, emperor CEO's more focused on their own bonuses and pay than doing whats right for the company.

[cleller]

What I know is that since the government starting supporting unwed mothers in the 1960s, things have gone to crap. I've done just fine taking care of myself and my family, because I watch where the money goes.
40-50 years ago middle class people didn't have 2 cars, cable tv, cell phones, laptops, ski trips, 3000 sf homes, etc. They did have good neighborhood schools, high graduation and literacy rates, safe streets. All that changed when the liberals came around with their handouts.

Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers that you have to spend your cash on private schools, because all the taxes in the world can't educate these loudmouths who've never known discipline. All thanks to the liberal "Great Society".

Would you feed a bear? No. He'll then stop providing for himself, depend on people for food, then terrorize them. Conditioning out self reliance is a dangerous thing. Look around.

[Midtowner]

Yes, oil and gas companies need our support more than single moms. That should totally be the Republican platform.

[Midtowner]

Do you really truly think the vanishing middle class is because the government is supporting unwed mothers your really need to look at your paycheck stub.

The vanishing of the middle class is occurring because of the outsourcing of American labor and companies' new unwillingness to pay a decent wage to blue collar workers. Like me, they pay as little as they think they can reasonably get away with. In this economy, that's a lot less than it was 5 years ago.

[ictsooner7]

What I know is that since the government starting supporting unwed mothers in the 1960s, things have gone to crap. I've done just fine taking care of myself and my family, because I watch where the money goes.
40-50 years ago middle class people didn't have 2 cars, cable tv, cell phones, laptops, ski trips, 3000 sf homes, etc. They did have good neighborhood schools, high graduation and literacy rates, safe streets. All that changed when the liberals came around with their handouts.

Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers that you have to spend your cash on private schools, because all the taxes in the world can't educate these loudmouths who've never known discipline. All thanks to the liberal "Great Society".

Would you feed a bear? No. He'll then stop providing for himself, depend on people for food, then terrorize them. Conditioning out self reliance is a dangerous thing. Look around.


This is what I'm talking about. I understand your point and I don't agree with how the programs that were started with the best of intentions have been taken advantage of.

Your comments come straight from rightwing talking points. In fact a majority of welfare recipients are WHITE.

“Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars.”

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/who-collects-more-welfare-whites-or-blacks/question-1195103/

As for too many unwed black mothers you are right on, 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers, but to blame welfare is just a simpletons solution to a complex problem. I have looked around, I went to jr high and high school in completely integrated schools, my jr high was in the hood, my senior year in high school, because a new high school opened up and you could go to it and be in the first graduating class I was a minority. The culture of America blacks needs to be changed but with just 14% of our budget going to “welfare” eliminating the $496B in spending won’t even cut the deficit in half. So eliminating welfare won’t raise stagnate real income rates. The GOP fights unions and minimum wage increases at every turn claiming it will stunt employment, but the highest income rates are in states with strong unions and higher minimum wages who’s employment is coming back with good jobs, not just service level jobs.

[achiro]

I'm pretty sure those states also have some of the highest unemployment rates.

[ictsooner7]

I'm pretty sure those states also have some of the highest unemployment rates.

Mostly due to auto's, but they are coming back.

[dwarthog]

This is what I'm talking about. I understand your point and I don't agree with how the programs that were started with the best of intentions have been taken advantage of.

Your comments come straight from rightwing talking points. In fact a majority of welfare recipients are WHITE.



http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/who-collects-more-welfare-whites-or-blacks/question-1195103/

As for too many unwed black mothers you are right on, 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers, but to blame welfare is just a simpletons solution to a complex problem. I have looked around, I went to jr high and high school in completely integrated schools, my jr high was in the hood, my senior year in high school, because a new high school opened up and you could go to it and be in the first graduating class I was a minority. The culture of America blacks needs to be changed but with just 14% of our budget going to “welfare” eliminating the $496B in spending won’t even cut the deficit in half. So eliminating welfare won’t raise stagnate real income rates. The GOP fights unions and minimum wage increases at every turn claiming it will stunt employment, but the highest income rates are in states with strong unions and higher minimum wages who’s employment is coming back with good jobs, not just service level jobs.

ICT, this statement is very misleading.

“Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars.”

72% of the population is white, which is all that statement reflects.

[olevetonahill]

Fine don't. I am a red meat liberal, I'm not going to take any **** from conservatives and they can't take what they dish out. If you think this is some alternate identity to screw with people, you really don't have a clue. I get on there and see the ignorance and lies spewed from these conservatives then when I show them facts and data they refuse to believe it. ALL of their threads come straight from rightwing websites, limbaugh and rnc talking points.

I am extremely liberal socially, I really don't care what consenting adults do and my marriage is strong enough that two men or two women getting married does not threaten my marriage. As for abortion and contraception, if you don't like it don't us it. As for paying for things your don't like I pay for a hell of a lot of things I don't like, tax breaks to oil companies and war in Iraq just to name two, you don't see me jumping up and down claiming my freedoms are being trampled on, majority is suppose to rule and a majority doesn't want them to be illegal.

What you are is a very angry, Common sense lacking weirdo.

[Curly Bill]

What you are is a very angry, Common sense lacking weirdo.

You forgot to add: troll

[olevetonahill]

You forgot to add: troll

My Bad, I just woke up and aint had my 1st cup of coffee yet

[Curly Bill]

My Bad, I just woke up and aint had my 1st cup of coffee yet

Understandable oversight in that case, plus it would have been stating the fairly obvious anyway. No "real person" is that stupid.

[OULenexaman]

I heard there is one in Cushing today....

[olevetonahill]

I heard there is one in Cushing today....
Heh,:adoration:

[ictsooner7]

ICT, this statement is very misleading.

“Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars.”

72% of the population is white, which is all that statement reflects.

How is it very misleading? The point was ubran black unwed mothers are somehow keeping down incomes. So if you take just blacks off welfare, the the percentage drop of what is spent on welfare is even less. The point is blacks on welfare are not keeping people out of the middle class.

[Curly Bill]

Where is ST to tell us Brack is actually so smart he's tricked us into thinking he's stupid, and he's gonna use that against us, along with some jedi mind tricks into forcing us to do what's right for the country? Or some similar sort of gibberish....

[ictsooner7]

Understandable oversight in that case, plus it would have been stating the fairly obvious anyway. No "real person" is that stupid.

Well.............you sure as hell are.

[ictsooner7]

What you are is a very angry, Common sense lacking weirdo.


Tell me exactly what common sense I lack? Like cutting taxes raises revenues? And like giving tax cuts to "job creators" generates jobs? And there are death panels?

THAT common sense?

[Curly Bill]

Well.............you sure as hell are.

LOL...someone got their feelers hurt. Does it feel good to lash out at the big bad bully? Just like back in school huh? And I thought you hand-wringing libs were supposed to have compasion for your fellow man?

[olevetonahill]

How is it very misleading? The point was ubran black unwed mothers are somehow keeping down incomes. So if you take just blacks off welfare, the the percentage drop of what is spent on welfare is even less. The point is blacks on welfare are not keeping people out of the middle class.

You are misleading ya ****in dork
Who HERE has said its all Blacks?

[dwarthog]

How is it very misleading? The point was ubran black unwed mothers are somehow keeping down incomes. So if you take just blacks off welfare, the the percentage drop of what is spent on welfare is even less. The point is blacks on welfare are not keeping people out of the middle class.

From what I can find on quick searches, the numbers indicate for welfare the overall count is roughly the same 11 million whites, 11 million blacks on welfare. But that doesn't equal the same percentages. It changes to 30% blacks vs 5% whites on welfare.

Your numbers I believe are including all forms of government assistance.

There are more of one group than the other, by quite a bit, so therefore it is far easier to have a larger number of one than the other which means the total dollars received by group will reflect that as well.

[ictsooner7]

From what I can find on quick searches, the numbers indicate for welfare the overall count is roughly the same 11 million whites, 11 million blacks on welfare. But that doesn't equal the same percentages. It changes to 30% blacks vs 5% whites on welfare.

Your numbers I believe are including all forms of government assistance.

There are more of one group than the other, by quite a bit, so therefore it is far easier to have a larger number of one than the other which means the total dollars received by group will reflect that as well.

Wheres your link?

I think mine just have welfare, AFDC, food stamps no medicare or SS.

[ictsooner7]

You are misleading ya ****in dork
Who HERE has said its all Blacks?



What I know is that since the government starting supporting unwed mothers in the 1960s, things have gone to crap. I've done just fine taking care of myself and my family, because I watch where the money goes.
40-50 years ago middle class people didn't have 2 cars, cable tv, cell phones, laptops, ski trips, 3000 sf homes, etc. They did have good neighborhood schools, high graduation and literacy rates, safe streets. All that changed when the liberals came around with their handouts.

Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers that you have to spend your cash on private schools, because all the taxes in the world can't educate these loudmouths who've never known discipline. All thanks to the liberal "Great Society".

Would you feed a bear? No. He'll then stop providing for himself, depend on people for food, then terrorize them. Conditioning out self reliance is a dangerous thing. Look around.

That would be cleller..............

[ictsooner7]

LOL...someone got their feelers hurt. Does it feel good to lash out at the big bad bully? Just like back in school huh? And I thought you hand-wringing libs were supposed to have compasion for your fellow man?

Red meat liberal, read my previous post about it. Call me stupid and I fire back.

[dwarthog]

Wheres your link?

I think mine just have welfare, AFDC, food stamps no medicare or SS.

I got those numbers off Wikianswers, but I am not going to bat for it. Search for "What are the demographics of persons receiving public welfare in the US?"

It states they are from the US Census, but I would feel far more comfortable if I was getting it from the census data myself and could see how they are deriving those totals.

[ictsooner7]

From what I can find on quick searches, the numbers indicate for welfare the overall count is roughly the same 11 million whites, 11 million blacks on welfare. But that doesn't equal the same percentages. It changes to 30% blacks vs 5% whites on welfare.

Your numbers I believe are including all forms of government assistance.

There are more of one group than the other, by quite a bit, so therefore it is far easier to have a larger number of one than the other which means the total dollars received by group will reflect that as well.

I learned the hard was on Wikianswers on palin getting GED. It was wrong.

Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

Medicare

Food stamps

. . . .the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures show that Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.

Program Recipients Black White
Social Security (1)
Retirement insurance 26 Million 7.7% 90.4%
Disability insurance 3.7 Million 18.3% 79.3%
Survivor’s benefits 1.8 Million 24% 72%
Widow’s benefits 4.9 Million 9% 90.1%
Supplemental
Security Income 5.8 Million 26% 48.2%
Aid to Families with Dependent Children (2)
3.8 Million 39.2% 55.2%
Medicare 37 Million 8.1% 88% (3)
Medicaid 33.4 Million 25.1% 46.1% (4)
Food Stamps 27.5 Million 34.9% 42.3% (5)
Women, Infants and Children (WIC) Food Program (6)
5.8 Million 27.8% 44.3%
National Student Lunch Program (7)
44.5 Million 17% 75%
Veterans’ Benefits 26 Million 8.0% 86.4% 8
Housing Subsidies 4.7 Million 40% 46% (9)
SOURCE: http://www.census.gov/

http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/black-history-month-welfare-in-black-and-white/

[olevetonahill]

That would be cleller..............

Ok Idjit, Educate me here. Where did cleller say ANYTHING about "Blacks" Afros" or any other race ?

You brot that **** up

[ictsooner7]

Ok Idjit, Educate me here. Where did cleller say ANYTHING about "Blacks" Afros" or any other race ?

You brot that **** up

"Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers"

are you really going to say this is not talking about blacks? Do you really think anyone is that stupid.

For the record so far in this thread I have been called stupid, dork and Idjit. and you wonder why fire back back in my posts

[Bourbon St Sooner]

So the "everybody that doesn't support Obama is racist" thread doesn't get to 8 pages but this one does? My thread picks are about as good as my NCAA tourney picks.

I guess getting icky riled up is the prerequisite to a long thread.

[Curly Bill]

"Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers"

are you really going to say this is not talking about blacks? Do you really think anyone is that stupid.

For the record so far in this thread I have been called stupid, dork and Idjit. and you wonder why fire back back in my posts

I thought it was talking about stupid little thugs, but maybe that's just me???

[Curly Bill]

...but apparently you Icky are that stupid!

[ictsooner7]

So the "everybody that doesn't support Obama is racist" thread doesn't get to 8 pages but this one does? My thread picks are about as good as my NCAA tourney picks.

I guess getting icky riled up is the prerequisite to a long thread.

No...........people saying stupid **** is how. Curly Bill........................

[dwarthog]

I learned the hard was on Wikianswers on palin getting GED. It was wrong.

Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC)

Medicare

Food stamps

. . . .the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures show that Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.

Program Recipients Black White
Social Security (1)
Retirement insurance 26 Million 7.7% 90.4%
Disability insurance 3.7 Million 18.3% 79.3%
Survivor’s benefits 1.8 Million 24% 72%
Widow’s benefits 4.9 Million 9% 90.1%
Supplemental
Security Income 5.8 Million 26% 48.2%
Aid to Families with Dependent Children (2)
3.8 Million 39.2% 55.2%
Medicare 37 Million 8.1% 88% (3)
Medicaid 33.4 Million 25.1% 46.1% (4)
Food Stamps 27.5 Million 34.9% 42.3% (5)
Women, Infants and Children (WIC) Food Program (6)
5.8 Million 27.8% 44.3%
National Student Lunch Program (7)
44.5 Million 17% 75%
Veterans’ Benefits 26 Million 8.0% 86.4% 8
Housing Subsidies 4.7 Million 40% 46% (9)
SOURCE: http://www.census.gov/

http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/black-history-month-welfare-in-black-and-white/

Like I said, I'm not going to bat for those numbers.

With regards to yours, that is the percentage of a total number receiving the assistance by demographic.

Since US Census numbers have demographics at roughly 72% white 12% black. What do those same number look like when you compare them to the core population of that demographic.

Taking the first one, Retirement Insurance which looks hugely out of whack, if you figure up the percentage of the demographic receiving the aid, it changes dramatically. Approximately 10% white receiving it vs 7% black. This all my point is with regards to your statement.

I just used your percentages and US census numbers.

[soonercruiser]

Is the point that two wrongs make a right?

The President isn't responsible for something a late night comedian says on a cable channel. Bristol Palin, unlike Fluke, is a public figure. She has already cashed in big on her young mother routine. She's fair game to be lampooned. Fluke, on the other hand, is a private person, not fair game.

Only a liberal lawyer would even attempt to construct a difference between the two.
:dispirited:

[Midtowner]

Only a liberal lawyer would even attempt to construct a difference between the two.
:dispirited:

Good thing I'm not a liberal then.

--just not a right wing moonbat as is prevalent here. You wouldn't know a liberal.. well you would.. ict. And I'm not sure what being a liberal or a lawyer has anything except that you can't think of any way to contradict me other than [very weak] immature personal attacks.

[olevetonahill]

"Now our cities are so full of little stupid thugs from these unwed mothers"

are you really going to say this is not talking about blacks? Do you really think anyone is that stupid.

For the record so far in this thread I have been called stupid, dork and Idjit. and you wonder why fire back back in my posts

I dont WONDER, Cause I dont GAS what you say or do.

Are you so stoopid to believe ONLY BLACKS Are Unwed Mothers and have Little Thugs?

[OULenexaman]

I get it now......icky was a little thug from an unwed mother.;)

[Curly Bill]

I get it now......icky was a little thug from an unwed mother.;)

...but is he black?

[olevetonahill]

I get it now......icky was a little thug from an unwed mother.;)
He knows him some "White Trash" Just ax him

[ictsooner7]

I get it now......icky was a little thug from an unwed mother.;)

and now insulting my mom, ignorant inbred redneck

[pphilfran]

and now insulting my mom, ignorant inbred redneck

I can't believe you are surviving this viscous and unjust attack...you are the one poster that behaves in a civil manner....

[olevetonahill]

I can't believe you are surviving this viscous and unjust attack...you are the one poster that behaves in a civil manner....

:congratulatory::unconscious:

[TitoMorelli]

Is the point that two wrongs make a right?

The President isn't responsible for something a late night comedian says on a cable channel. Bristol Palin, unlike Fluke, is a public figure. She has already cashed in big on her young mother routine. She's fair game to be lampooned. Fluke, on the other hand, is a private person, not fair game.

When Fluke chose to testify in an open hearing something to the effect that she has the right to keep her hand in our pockets even though we have no rights to her uterus, she became a public figure.

And when celebrities such as Maher and Jon Stewart get skewed for comments they made, they always fall back on the "Hey, I'm a comedian" routine. Pure chickens__t theatrics from spineless little twerps who think they're entitled to have it both ways. They're just as responsible for the things they say, and just as open to criticism, as that comedian Limbaugh.

[olevetonahill]

and now insulting my mom, ignorant inbred redneck
So yer admitting to being a Thug?

[okie52]

I can't believe you are surviving this viscous and unjust attack...you are the one poster that behaves in a civil manner....

Hey, Icky just revealed he is a Card fan...that's worth at least a few passes in my book.

[cleller]

How is it very misleading? The point was ubran black unwed mothers are somehow keeping down incomes. So if you take just blacks off welfare, the the percentage drop of what is spent on welfare is even less. The point is blacks on welfare are not keeping people out of the middle class.

I have no idea why you equated anything I said as relating to a person's race. You evidently seem to equate poor behavior with minorities. The term thug became popular in the US during the prohibition era, to describe the enforcers of the beer gangs. Before that it was used in English colonies. I have used it since the old TV show, The Untouchables, where Eliot Ness used it for Frank Nitti and his cronies.

At any rate you statement about welfare is very plentiful, and deliberately misleading. Since you seem intent on talking about this: A black person is about 3 times more likely than a white person of being on welfare. They are also much more likely to have children out of wedlock. These troublesome statistics took off with the expansion of social programs in the 60's. Unfortunately, the black community has suffered and been exploited the most by these liberal policies. I find it appalling, and that is another reason I dislike these programs.

[OULenexaman]

Hey, Icky just revealed he is a Card fan...that's worth at least a few passes in my book. How about those 85 Royals....they stuck it to Icky.

[okie52]

How about those 85 Royals....they stuck it to Icky.

and me too. That dam ump.

[ictsooner7]

How about those 85 Royals....they stuck it to Icky.

Thanks a lot PAL, I was having a pretty good Friday until you brought that up.

[okie52]

Thanks a lot PAL, I was having a pretty good Friday until you brought that up.

Game 6-2011-against those traitorous Rangers that dumped OKC once they got good and left us to the lastros.

[ictsooner7]

Game 6-2011-against those traitorous Rangers that dumped OKC once they got good and left us to the lastros.

Great game...........and I'm back.

Game 7 Mets in '06 Yadier Molina, sweet. Good times, good times.

[OULenexaman]

Thanks a lot PAL, I was having a pretty good Friday until you brought that up. your welcome....signed Dick Howser and company.