Why is Obama going to Cushing?

[cleller]

My guess is there's such a dust up over the Keystone Pipeline, it only makes sense to go to the "pipeline crossroads of the world" and say, "Who me? I love Cushing, and pipelines, lets move on."

In a way, I have to hand it to him.

[okie52]

He hopes to carry a county in OK next election.

[pphilfran]

He hopes to carry a county in OK next election.

Bet he doesn't....

[XingTheRubicon]

"I will go to Cushing."


-Dwight D. Obama

[okie52]

Bet he doesn't....

His only hope would be in Dan borens district.....

[pphilfran]

His only hope would be in Dan borens district.....

I wish him luck!

[Soonerus]

He wants to go to the Thunder game Wednesday night in OKC....

[okie52]

I wish him luck!

Maybe he just wants to meet Icky.

[pphilfran]

He wants to go to the Thunder game Wednesday night in OKC....

No f'n way...he couldn't find Chesapeake Energy Arena if the economy depended on it...

[sappstuf]

My guess is there's such a dust up over the Keystone Pipeline, it only makes sense to go to the "pipeline crossroads of the world" and say, "Who me? I love Cushing, and pipelines, lets move on."

In a way, I have to hand it to him.

I heard he is trying to kick Cushing out of the union...

[Midtowner]

He's there to convey blessings onto a mosque and to speak at the Communist Party HQ of Cushing.

[LiveLaughLove]

I heard Ayers showed him how to plant an IED and he is going to prove that pipeline isn't safe.

Oh wait, that can't be it. He and Ayers aren't even friends. :hurt:

[Whet]

The more the Cushing, the better the Pushing!

[cleller]

The more the Cushing, the better the Pushing!

Obama in Cushing: "Hello Cushing! When you are in the pipeline crossroads, you gotta open the tap! The Spinal Tap!"

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin
That's what I said.
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read.
My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo.
I love to sink her with my pink torpedo.
Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about bum cakes,
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom,
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?
I saw her on monday, twas my lucky bun day
[From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/s/spinal-tap-lyrics/big-bottom-lyrics.html]
You know what I mean.
I love her each weekday, each velvety cheekday
You know what I mean.
My love gun's loaded and she's in my sights
Big game's waiting there inside her tights
Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about mud flaps
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?

[AlboSooner]

I hope this signals a change of policy when it comes to allowing more drilling in the US, and hopefully allowing the Keystone pipeline.

Am I wrong in thinking that Dems oppose policies that would benefit oil companies because Oil companies historically support the GOP? I just don't think these rich Dems with their million dollars homes are truly concerned for the environment. The whole Hollywood industry has been wasteful and has polluted for a long time, yet they are considered as a bastion for green energy causes.

[cleller]

I hope this signals a change of policy when it comes to allowing more drilling in the US, and hopefully allowing the Keystone pipeline.

Am I wrong in thinking that Dems oppose policies that would benefit oil companies because Oil companies historically support the GOP? I just don't think these rich Dems with their million dollars homes are truly concerned for the environment. The whole Hollywood industry has been wasteful and has polluted for a long time, yet they are considered as a bastion for green energy causes.

Reminds me of the Al Gore dinosaur carbon footprint house vs the George Bush eco-friendly home:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

Al Gore's house uses more energy per month than mine does in a year. Michael Moore would call him "a big fat two-faced phony" if he weren't already one himself.

[REDREX]

Tell him to watch out for the speed trap in Shamrock

[hawaii 5-0]

He heard Oklahoma was moving to a Theocracy.


5-0

[LiveLaughLove]

He heard Oklahoma was moving to a Theocracy.

Yeppers, where we cling to our guns and our religion!

[okie52]

Tell him to watch out for the speed trap in Shamrock

Definitely.

[okie52]

He heard Oklahoma was moving to a Theocracy.


5-0

We need some more gods here. Why don't you give us some of your somoan deities. Obama would like them.

[sappstuf]

I hope this signals a change of policy when it comes to allowing more drilling in the US, and hopefully allowing the Keystone pipeline.

Am I wrong in thinking that Dems oppose policies that would benefit oil companies because Oil companies historically support the GOP? I just don't think these rich Dems with their million dollars homes are truly concerned for the environment. The whole Hollywood industry has been wasteful and has polluted for a long time, yet they are considered as a bastion for green energy causes.

It would certainly be good for the country if Obama changed his policy... Unfortunately, I don't think he will. His decision on Keystone is killing him. Support for the pipeline is +5 among Dems and +39 with independents. It is one of those rare political "no-brainers" that he completely blew.

No, I think he will do what he does best. Talk, but not actually do anything productive. If I had to take a guess, he will try to take credit for the southern leg of the Keystone pipeline that is moving forward because it didn't need his approval. He will be hoping that people that aren't paying attention will take it that he is now approving the pipeline, when he is actually doing nothing of the sort.

[hawaii 5-0]

We need some more gods here. Why don't you give us some of your somoan deities. Obama would like them.


I would guess there are more Christians in Samoa than in Oklahoma, percentage-wise.

They're very faith-based.

Very weak smack, if even that's what it was meant to be.

5-0

[nighttrain12]

He wants to go to the Thunder game Wednesday night in OKC....

Since he loves to play the 'tax the rich' card during election season, he should sit up in Loud City.

[StoopTroup]

Maybe he's calling a bunch of you on your BS and he's going to work on getting the Pipeline through? It will be fun to watch and see if any Republicans start complaining about it and the jobs everyone has been crying about.

So many folks jumping on his a$$ about everything. Typical of America anymore. I swear....it's no wonder we have so many dip****s running for our #1 Position. They'll never make anyone happy about anything. If a POTUS figured out a way to never tax Americans again....someone would say he's screwing up our Country even if they were complaining about taxes 2 months earlier.

Funniest thread I've seen in awhile.....LMAO

[Curly Bill]

Someone has a crush on Brack!

[cleller]

Maybe he's calling a bunch of you on your BS and he's going to work on getting the Pipeline through?



Lets see if this happens.

[dwarthog]

It would certainly be good for the country if Obama changed his policy... Unfortunately, I don't think he will. His decision on Keystone is killing him. Support for the pipeline is +5 among Dems and +39 with independents. It is one of those rare political "no-brainers" that he completely blew.

No, I think he will do what he does best. Talk, but not actually do anything productive. If I had to take a guess, he will try to take credit for the southern leg of the Keystone pipeline that is moving forward because it didn't need his approval. He will be hoping that people that aren't paying attention will take it that he is now approving the pipeline, when he is actually doing nothing of the sort.

IMO, you have this one nailed.

[Breadburner]

Maybe he's calling a bunch of you on your BS and he's going to work on getting the Pipeline through? It will be fun to watch and see if any Republicans start complaining about it and the jobs everyone has been crying about.

So many folks jumping on his a$$ about everything. Typical of America anymore. I swear....it's no wonder we have so many dip****s running for our #1 Position. They'll never make anyone happy about anything. If a POTUS figured out a way to never tax Americans again....someone would say he's screwing up our Country even if they were complaining about taxes 2 months earlier.


Funniest thread I've seen in awhile.....LMAO

Are your lips still Green from all that beer....???

[okie52]

Someone has a crush on Brack!
That's for sure

[okie52]

Maybe he's calling a bunch of you on your BS and he's going to work on getting the Pipeline through? It will be fun to watch and see if any Republicans start complaining about it and the jobs everyone has been crying about.

So many folks jumping on his a$$ about everything. Typical of America anymore. I swear....it's no wonder we have so many dip****s running for our #1 Position. They'll never make anyone happy about anything. If a POTUS figured out a way to never tax Americans again....someone would say he's screwing up our Country even if they were complaining about taxes 2 months earlier.

Funniest thread I've seen in awhile.....LMAO

Lol. Just how far up obama's azz can your head go?

[cleller]

Lol. Just how far up obama's azz can your head go?

Far enough to find that pipeline?:playful:

[LiveLaughLove]

Maybe he's calling a bunch of you on your BS and he's going to work on getting the Pipeline through? It will be fun to watch and see if any Republicans start complaining about it and the jobs everyone has been crying about.

So many folks jumping on his a$$ about everything. Typical of America anymore. I swear....it's no wonder we have so many dip****s running for our #1 Position. They'll never make anyone happy about anything. If a POTUS figured out a way to never tax Americans again....someone would say he's screwing up our Country even if they were complaining about taxes 2 months earlier.

Funniest thread I've seen in awhile.....LMAO

Yes, his plan was to wait, wait, and wait some more on the pipeline until his opponents called him on it, and then say "aha! fooled you! I'm really going to do it! hehe you suckers!"

As for jumping on his rear end, were you this concerned about "typical America" when Bush was in office? BTW, America is the absolute greatest country in the history of the world, so "typical America" isn't a pejorative.

The rest of your post is just inane whining.

People were having fun with this thread at poor Ear Leaders expense. We put up with a ton of it directed at Bush. I listened to idiotic babble about how Reagan was a dunce (funny, all republicans are dunces and doofuses somehow) and didn't have a mind of his own for 8 years. Thankfully, you will only have to put up with it for 4 if current trends continue.

[okie52]

Far enough to find that pipeline?:playful:

Lol...hilarious.

[StoopTroup]

Yes, his plan was to wait, wait, and wait some more on the pipeline until his opponents called him on it, and then say "aha! fooled you! I'm really going to do it! hehe you suckers!"

As for jumping on his rear end, were you this concerned about "typical America" when Bush was in office? BTW, America is the absolute greatest country in the history of the world, so "typical America" isn't a pejorative.

The rest of your post is just inane whining.

People were having fun with this thread at poor Ear Leaders expense. We put up with a ton of it directed at Bush. I listened to idiotic babble about how Reagan was a dunce (funny, all republicans are dunces and doofuses somehow) and didn't have a mind of his own for 8 years. Thankfully, you will only have to put up with it for 4 if current trends continue.

I can always count on this place to have comments like the ones above if you don't buy off on the whole "ABO" approach to this Years Elections.

Even your response, which is better than the others, has to go back and try and make something out of how I felt about Bush. I supported him going after OBL with the entire force of our Military. I also supported him finishing what his Dad started in Iraq. I don't know how many times I've stated this but it always comes up any time I bring up that I think the current attempt to use "ABO" as a way to try and run President Obama out of office isn't going to work. People hate Negative and they hate hearing things that don't seem truthful. That's a big difference than the truth I know but let's just look at Fox News for example. Most of their Broadcast Time goes towards little shots and opinion pieces by folks who are obviously behind the "ABO" Campaign that the RNC has been pushing.

Preibus was on "Face the Nation" this morning doing it again.

It's just my premise that McCain and Palin used it last time and even Hillary used it. It didn't work. America loves an Underdog.

Everything that is being done right now is setting Obama on his way for a 2nd term.

What he does with the 2nd term....I have no idea. I am waiting for the RNC's approach that he will ruin America though. What happens with voters is that they look at the last 4 years and ask themselves if he has ruined America or made it better after Bush tried to Bring Democracy to Iraq no matter the cost.

With current GOP Folks jumping at another War....I think you are going to bring out even more voters come the National Election. What you might not understand is this. A good number of Americans realize that putting President Obama in office did create change. It might not be the change they thought it would be but they also didn't ever think the future after 2000 would look like it did. Americans went to the polls in 2008 and cast a vote that created change. I'm thinking that the RNC's current Approach is going to again bring them in masses to the Polls again.

Like it or not....it's just how I think it's going to happen. I will say this....I do hope that someone besides the 4 jokers that are left on the current campaign trail for the RNC all get beat by someone that can come in and make promises that are good for America instead of this continued promise to undo the damage that's been done. I don't believe everyone is going to get on the "ABO" band wagon based on this idea that President Obama is completely responsible for everything that has happened to America.

At the end of today's "Face the Nation" Bob Schieffer proposed that one of the reason's that the price of oil has gone up is that China and Russia are in the game these days since Reagan stopped the Cold War. They have changed their tactics. He went on further that Putin has promised Wealth to the many Russians who have put him in power and that in order to get them that wealth he must try to see that oil prices go to 150 dollars a barrel in order to make good on his promises.

Now we can go back to why pumping more out of the ground might not counter the entire problem we face at the pump. It's looking to me that it's just a fight for Wealth by the many who already have enough and that if we continue to pump out every last drop we have to counter these current problems...someday we will regret it.

You then hear the GOP spewing that our children are going to pay for all this spending....but in reality....if we pump oil to solve our problems at the pump....we will seal America's fate in the future unless we do come up with alternatives. The Idea that someone or anyone is the Greatest didn't work for the Romans and IMO it's not going to work for America unless we continue making good choices that may require many of us to change the way we think.

I'm glad you recognized that our President did indeed decide to wait on the pipeline and if he decides to change his mind it's maybe not a flip flop as much as it might be the right thing to do right now for America. Paint it as something else....and I think you play into the "ABO" mistake that I think is being made.,

[pphilfran]

Troop...that sounds all good and everything but their is no green replacement for crude...and there is nothing on the horizon that will have a significant impact within 10 years...

Electric cars are outrageously expensive...even with a 20% fed tax credit they can't move em..electrics won't be 10% of the road vehicles in 2020...long haul trucking will not see any great change to electrics within 20 years....

The wrong decision today will cost us dearly in the near future...

Obama's energy plan is drive solely by CO2 emissions and nothing else...he is blowing smoke when he says otherwise...his policy and actions speak much louder than his words...

My goal is to get off of ME crude as a first step...even though my plan which includes an increase in ng usage would reduce CO2 emission it would still clash with Obama's plan...he has talked about ng but he will sit on his hands until after the election...

[cleller]

What does ABO mean?

I just hope if Rommey should win, when it comes time to deal with these massive debts and things go south again, it will be acceptable to blame Obama. It would only be fair.

[pphilfran]

Anybody but Obama

[soonercruiser]

There was a short article from page 1A to 3A in Saturday's Oklahoman.
In it they quoted Obama as saying he was actually "in favor of the souther portion of the Keystone XL Pipeline from Cushing"!!!!???
Really Squire???

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn212/SoonerCruiser_photos/Political/ObamaTurdclogspipeline.jpg

I'm having hand surgery Wednesday.
But, I considering going for a ride Thursday with a big sign!
:barbershop_quartet_

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Answer to thread question:

To lie to people that he is pro-petroleum... He isn't folks, he wants to take away a legal tax break for all manufacturer's, jack up YOUR gas prices to fund pie in the sky energy options and kill all drilling in this country. Wake up, his energy policy is to kill conventional engery in favor of utopian crap that is no where near viable or mass market ready.

[OULenexaman]

Marine One touched down at Cushing, Okla. landing zone at 9:43 local.

He got in the motorcade for the drive to the pipe yard, en route at 9:47. En route, passed some residents waving flags with cardboard signs “Welcome, Mr. President,” and some protesters with peace signs and placards calling drones “un-human.”

Further, larger contingent of people (maybe fifty) with signs “Keystone, Yes,” and “Socialism not welcome here.”


That's a nice warm welcome...

[Curly Bill]

Marine One touched down at Cushing, Okla. landing zone at 9:43 local.

He got in the motorcade for the drive to the pipe yard, en route at 9:47. En route, passed some residents waving flags with cardboard signs “Welcome, Mr. President,” and some protesters with peace signs and placards calling drones “un-human.”

Further, larger contingent of people (maybe fifty) with signs “Keystone, Yes,” and “Socialism not welcome here.”


That's a nice warm welcome...

That part does my heart good. :)

[TitoMorelli]

Did they bus a bunch of Obamabots in? We might be able to mark today as the day in state history on which Cushing/Ripley had more sheep than Stoolwater.

[ictsooner7]

Marine One touched down at Cushing, Okla. landing zone at 9:43 local.

He got in the motorcade for the drive to the pipe yard, en route at 9:47. En route, passed some residents waving flags with cardboard signs “Welcome, Mr. President,” and some protesters with peace signs and placards calling drones “un-human.”

Further, larger contingent of people (maybe fifty) with signs “Keystone, Yes,” and “Socialism not welcome here.”


That's a nice warm welcome...

Do you understand that the guy from fox "news" who started this obama is a socialist doesn't believe it?

[soonercruiser]

Further, larger contingent of people (maybe fifty) with signs “Keystone, Yes,” and “Socialism not welcome here.”


That part does my heart good. :)

Mine Too!!!
:adoration:

When I heard that the Pro-Pipeline folks were busing in from Kansas, I figured they'd have my sign "covered" anyway.
So, I stayed home. (Don't need no arrest anyway)

[Tulsa_Fireman]

http://grannygeek.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/morans.jpg

[TUSooner]

Marine One touched down at Cushing, Okla. landing zone at 9:43 local.

He got in the motorcade for the drive to the pipe yard, en route at 9:47. En route, passed some residents waving flags with cardboard signs “Welcome, Mr. President,” and some protesters with peace signs and placards calling drones “un-human.”

Further, larger contingent of people (maybe fifty) with signs “Keystone, Yes,” and “Socialism not welcome here.”


That's a nice warm welcome...

I love free speech, and I'm not joking. Think of all the places in the world where something that simple and harmless would get you hauled off in a van. Free speech is one thing we got right, fer sure.

[TUSooner]

Do you understand that the guy from fox "news" who started this obama is a socialist doesn't believe it?

Fervent belief trumps mere facts when you're talking to some folks (including some of my Okie kin). And some folks are just blitheringly ignorant... not on this board, I'm sure, but some people. ;)

[Tulsa_Fireman]

OMG U HATE AMURICUH

[ictsooner7]

OMG U HATE AMURICUH

funniest thing i've seen on this board...........

[ictsooner7]

http://grannygeek.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/morans.jpg

I really wish he didn't have a cardinals shirt on.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

But he does. Which is extremely telling.

If he was wearing the Dodger Blue and Giant Orange of those Amazin' Mets, THEN you could shake your head and wonder why.

[okie52]

I really wish he didn't have a cardinals shirt on.

That's world champion Cardinals.

[ictsooner7]

But he does. Which is extremely telling.

If he was wearing the Dodger Blue and Giant Orange of those Amazin' Mets, THEN you could shake your head and wonder why.

You're killing me, I'm going to have to toss away my 2011 WS Champs tee now.

[ictsooner7]

That's world champion Cardinals.

Okie52 do we finally agree on something?

[okie52]

Okie52 do we finally agree on something?

If I say we do will the world end?

[ictsooner7]

If I say we do will the world end?

http://wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/casablanca-1-copy.jpg?w=500&h=375

Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Yes.

And we'll enter the utopian state of a championship in Flushing.

[okie52]

http://wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/casablanca-1-copy.jpg?w=500&h=375

Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

LOL

Yep, I'm a die hard Card fan for most of my life...even batboyed a game for them in 1962 and went out with Stan the Man after the game to his restaurant, Stan and Biggies.

Now life is post Pujols and hoping Carp mends quickly.

[ictsooner7]

LOL

Yep, I'm a die hard Card fan for most of my life...even batboyed a game for them in 1962 and went out with Stan the Man after the game to his restaurant, Stan and Biggies.

Now life is post Pujols and hoping Carp mends quickly.

Me too, since I was 7, '68 series with tigers. Nope misread it back to STL for Carp, I haven't heard about Allen, Skip just got hurt and will miss a month. Pujols who?

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Poo Holes.

[okie52]

Me too, since I was 7, '68 series with tigers. Nope misread it back to STL for Carp, I haven't heard about Allen, Skip just got hurt and will miss a month. Pujols who?


I still hurt over the 68 series with the tigers...I did get to see game 7 of the 64 series with the yanks...much better outcome.

I wish the best for Albert unless he is playing us. Seems like the Cards are happy with Matheny.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

So at what point does icky invite okie to his private chat room:D

[okie52]

So at what point does icky invite okie to his private chat room:D


LOL...really not all that strange...I think everyone on this board is supposed to be sooner fan, too.

[ictsooner7]

LOL...really not all that strange...I think everyone on this board is supposed to be sooner fan, too.



BOOMER

[ictsooner7]

BOOMER

tough crowd, can't even get a sooner, sad

[okie52]

tough crowd, can't even get a sooner, sad

Sorry icky....Sooner!!!!!!!

[Petro-Sooner]

POS. Move along

[cleller]

"I'm your pipeline man, stop me when I'm passin' by"

[nighttrain12]

He wants to go to the Thunder game Wednesday night in OKC....

Was he counting on triple overtime because that's the only way he would have made it.

[OULenexaman]

"I'm your pipeline man, stop me when I'm passin' by" and all my changes are guaranteed to satisfy..

[sappstuf]

It would certainly be good for the country if Obama changed his policy... Unfortunately, I don't think he will. His decision on Keystone is killing him. Support for the pipeline is +5 among Dems and +39 with independents. It is one of those rare political "no-brainers" that he completely blew.

No, I think he will do what he does best. Talk, but not actually do anything productive. If I had to take a guess, he will try to take credit for the southern leg of the Keystone pipeline that is moving forward because it didn't need his approval. He will be hoping that people that aren't paying attention will take it that he is now approving the pipeline, when he is actually doing nothing of the sort.

Looks like my prediction about a week ago was spot on. And yes I'm tooting my own horn....

I've been doing a lot of that since getting deployed.

[AlboSooner]

I took a few things from Obama's visit here.

1. People in Nebraska have real concerns about their water supply if the pipeline goes with its original route. It seems reasonable to me to not risk a state's water supply. Find a better way.
2. It didn't seem to me the potus was too opposed to the pipeline. Sounds like he left the door open by saying "find a safe route for the pipeline."

3. I am a little disappointed by the governor and her lack of courtesy. Look, it's not often the president comes to Oklahoma, leave politics out of it. Oklahoma already dislikes him. We are already a red state. Be the voice of reason and display that famous Oklahoma friendliness. She would have not lost GOP points if she had been more welcoming to the president. It's embarrassing that only the mayor of OKC was present to welcome Obama.

[OULenexaman]

It was dead spot on..toot away...and the staged back drop of large stacked pipline made it even more disgusting.

[ictsooner7]

I took a few things from Obama's visit here.

1. People in Nebraska have real concerns about their water supply if the pipeline goes with its original route. It seems reasonable to me to not risk a state's water supply. Find a better way.
2. It didn't seem to me the potus was too opposed to the pipeline. Sounds like he left the door open by saying "find a safe route for the pipeline."

3. I am a little disappointed by the governor and her lack of courtesy. Look, it's not often the president comes to Oklahoma, leave politics out of it. Oklahoma already dislikes him. We are already a red state. Be the voice of reason and display that famous Oklahoma friendliness. She would have not lost GOP points if she had been more welcoming to the president. It's embarrassing that only the mayor of OKC was present to welcome Obama.

The governor didn't show up? How ignorant. Whether or not she likes him, he still is OUR president.


BTW - Nebraska STILL hasn't settled on a route.

[OULenexaman]

you just now found out?

[ictsooner7]

you just now found out?

About the governor? I live in Kansas, not big news up here.

[olevetonahill]

The governor didn't show up? How ignorant. Whether or not she likes him, he still is OUR president.


BTW - Nebraska STILL hasn't settled on a route.

Hell from what I read only certain Dems were Invited .
Plus wasnt she out of state?

[olevetonahill]

About the governor? I live in Kansas, not big news up here.

Well that explains every thing now .:congratulatory:

[ictsooner7]

Hell from what I read only certain Dems were Invited .
Plus wasnt she out of state?

The mayor of OKC is a dem? Here is her statement. It's just rude and ignorant. He is the President. I'm embarrassed and don't even live in OK anymore.

Gov. Falling released this statement on the President's visit to Oklahoma:

“I am pleased that President Obama is able to make his first visit to the great state of Oklahoma this week and to personally see the good work going on in Cushing. The TransCanada pipeline to be built there will connect Oklahoma to oil markets on the Gulf Coast, resulting in the creation of more than 1,000 Oklahoma jobs. This project will help to bolster our energy industry and security for years to come.

“I am glad the president supports the construction of the pipeline connecting Cushing to the Gulf. Impeding the progress of something which is so obviously beneficial to both the economy and the energy security of the United States would have been nothing short of irresponsible.

“Unfortunately, President Obama and his administration are practicing exactly this kind of obstructionism on the northern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have carried oil from the Canadian oil sands and several U.S. markets to Cushing. As a result, the United States must go without the hundreds of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars of investment that would have otherwise been available to stimulate our economy. Just as importantly, the administration’s decision undermines U.S. energy security and alienates our closest trading partner, Canada.

“I hope that while President Obama is in Oklahoma he takes some time to listen to our citizens, many of whom work for the energy industry which he claims to support. I think they will tell him that – far from supporting the responsible domestic production of American-made energy – his administration has undermined it at every turn. Rather than embracing the truly remarkable technological breakthroughs that have resulted in the discovery of an additional 100-year supply of natural gas, the president and the EPA continue their hostility to basic and time-tested practices like hydraulic fracturing. The president and his party in Washington continue to support an aggressively anti-energy agenda that will severely hamper the American economy and put the United States at a competitive disadvantage to the rest of the world.“In Oklahoma, we recognize that the energy industry is an important ally in job creation and economic development. We believe that American energy is a resource, not a hazardous waste. My great hope is that some of that attitude will rub off on our president, who has lost his way on energy policy and so many other issues.”

[OULenexaman]

dang....the troll just ID'd himself.

[olevetonahill]

About the governor? I live in Kansas, not big news up here.


Well that explains every thing now .:congratulatory:


dang....the troll just ID'd himself.

Heh

[okie52]

The mayor of OKC is a dem? Here is her statement. It's just rude and ignorant. He is the President. I'm embarrassed and don't even live in OK anymore.

Gov. Falling released this statement on the President's visit to Oklahoma:

“I am pleased that President Obama is able to make his first visit to the great state of Oklahoma this week and to personally see the good work going on in Cushing. The TransCanada pipeline to be built there will connect Oklahoma to oil markets on the Gulf Coast, resulting in the creation of more than 1,000 Oklahoma jobs. This project will help to bolster our energy industry and security for years to come.

“I am glad the president supports the construction of the pipeline connecting Cushing to the Gulf. Impeding the progress of something which is so obviously beneficial to both the economy and the energy security of the United States would have been nothing short of irresponsible.

“Unfortunately, President Obama and his administration are practicing exactly this kind of obstructionism on the northern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have carried oil from the Canadian oil sands and several U.S. markets to Cushing. As a result, the United States must go without the hundreds of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars of investment that would have otherwise been available to stimulate our economy. Just as importantly, the administration’s decision undermines U.S. energy security and alienates our closest trading partner, Canada.

“I hope that while President Obama is in Oklahoma he takes some time to listen to our citizens, many of whom work for the energy industry which he claims to support. I think they will tell him that – far from supporting the responsible domestic production of American-made energy – his administration has undermined it at every turn. Rather than embracing the truly remarkable technological breakthroughs that have resulted in the discovery of an additional 100-year supply of natural gas, the president and the EPA continue their hostility to basic and time-tested practices like hydraulic fracturing. The president and his party in Washington continue to support an aggressively anti-energy agenda that will severely hamper the American economy and put the United States at a competitive disadvantage to the rest of the world.“In Oklahoma, we recognize that the energy industry is an important ally in job creation and economic development. We believe that American energy is a resource, not a hazardous waste. My great hope is that some of that attitude will rub off on our president, who has lost his way on energy policy and so many other issues.”

Icky, you may be surprised but I agree with every word she said. I have sometimes wondered about Fallin being an empty suit, but on this subject she pretty much nails it.

And the local news stations in OKC were stating it was a largely hand picked dem crowd that attended the Cushing ceremony. If Mick Cornett was in attendance I didn't see him on any newscasts.

I also didn't see Harold Hamm, Larry Nichols or Aubrey McClendon in attendance and they were only 40 miles away. They may not have seen eye to eye with the prez on his policies either.
Just a guess there though.

[ictsooner7]

Icky, you may be surprised but I agree with every word she said. I have sometimes wondered about Fallin being an empty suit, but on this subject she pretty much nails it.

And the local news stations in OKC were stating it was a largely hand picked dem crowd that attended the Cushing ceremony. If Mick Cornett was in attendance I didn't see him on any newscasts.

I also didn't see Harold Hamm, Larry Nichols or Aubrey McClendon in attendance and they were only 40 miles away. They may not have seen eye to eye with the prez on his policies either.
Just a guess there though.


Well, you and I disagree with what is happening in Nebraska, they still haven't got a route yet, so how can he OK it? He "blocked" it AFTER the Nebraska legislature blocked it. For inviting only Dems, I don't like it but I don't blame him for doing it. And if you recall, invitation only for the president appearances by bush and rove. At least no one was arrested for wearing the wrong t-shirt.


See, you're civil to me, I’m civil to you. :tennis:

[pphilfran]

Well, you and I disagree with what is happening in Nebraska, they still haven't got a route yet, so how can he OK it? He "blocked" it AFTER the Nebraska legislature blocked it. For inviting only Dems, I don't like it but I don't blame him for doing it. And if you recall, invitation only for the president appearances by bush and rove. At least no one was arrested for wearing the wrong t-shirt.


See, you're civil to me, I’m civil to you. :tennis:

I think you are inaccurate..I don't think Okie has a problem with what is going on in the Nebbish debate...he is much more concerned about offshore drilling...

[ictsooner7]

I think you are inaccurate..I don't think Okie has a problem with what is going on in the Nebbish debate...he is much more concerned about offshore drilling...

I didn't see her mentioning off shore drilling. Did I miss it?

[okie52]

Well, you and I disagree with what is happening in Nebraska, they still haven't got a route yet, so how can he OK it? He "blocked" it AFTER the Nebraska legislature blocked it. For inviting only Dems, I don't like it but I don't blame him for doing it. And if you recall, invitation only for the president appearances by bush and rove. At least no one was arrested for wearing the wrong t-shirt.


See, you're civil to me, I’m civil to you. :tennis:

I am actually not that upset about the northern leg. I would rather Obama state he looks forward to signing it once the route has been approved rather than campaign against it.

Everyone knew this was a photo op trip to Cushing...hardly like it is a vacation destination.

Oh I'm not surprised it was mainly dems there...even in a blue state most of these appearances are orchestrated to have minimal opposition present.

I'm all for the civility.

We are the World, we are.....

[okie52]

I didn't see her mentioning off shore drilling. Did I miss it?

I didn't either. To be honest I am not sure the pubs are going to press the coastline issues until the general election and maybe only then if they are behind. While nationally the public overwhelmingly supports offshore drilling during the primaries and dealing with some individual states it may not play well or as well with their voters.

[ictsooner7]

I didn't either. To be honest I am not sure the pubs are going to press the coastline issues until the general election and maybe only then if they are behind. While nationally the public overwhelmingly supports offshore drilling during the primaries and dealing with some individual states it may not play well or as well with their voters.

A lot of those coastal states don't want it, because of the spills affecting fishing and tourism.

[pphilfran]

I didn't see her mentioning off shore drilling. Did I miss it?

I wasn't talking about her statement...I stated that Okie was more concerned about offshore drilling than the northern part of the pipeline...he basically agrees with you on the northern part...

[okie52]

A lot of those coastal states don't want it, because of the spills affecting fishing and tourism.

The coastal states get nothing from the royalties so they have no vested interest in the revenues from production or lease sales. Where they will see an economic benefit is the employment, equipment sales and state taxes derived from the employment. But, without any reward being apparent to them they only see the risk.

So I assume that both Obama and probably Romney will sense the political winds before sticking their neck out. Even though Obama has banned it if the election was going the other way he would utilize it at least in election year rhetoric and the same for Romney...even moreso for Romney.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Well, we can thank O'Bammy for another energy decision...

The new Alaska Pipeline looks like instead of going to BC and eventually hook into the Keystone (or other similar pipeline) will now divert to Valdez and to a newly planned LNG plant to be built there so the LNG from the north slope can be shipped to Asia. This according to a Financial Times story yesterday or Wednesday.

More ramifications from the Keystone denial...

[okie52]

Well, we can thank O'Bammy for another energy decision...

The new Alaska Pipeline looks like instead of going to BC and eventually hook into the Keystone (or other similar pipeline) will no divert to Valdez and to a newly planned LNG plant to be built there so the LNG from the north slope can be shipped to Asia. This according to a Financial Times story yesterday or Wednesday.

More ramifications from the Keystone denial...

Oh the irony....but Ed Markey was going to try and stop all LNG exports.

[ictsooner7]

The coastal states get nothing from the royalties so they have no vested interest in the revenues from production or lease sales. Where they will see an economic benefit is the employment, equipment sales and state taxes derived from the employment. But, without any reward being apparent to them they only see the risk.

So I assume that both Obama and probably Romney will sense the political winds before sticking their neck out. Even though Obama has banned it if the election was going the other way he would utilize it at least in election year rhetoric and the same for Romney...even moreso for Romney.

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[okie52]

http://addictionjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/flair-etch-a-sketch-classic_282097.jpeg.jpg

Hey if someone can handle an etch a sketch more power to him...I could never get those things to do crap for drawing.

[olevetonahill]

http://addictionjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/flair-etch-a-sketch-classic_282097.jpeg.jpg

Hey Icky yer so Clever How about THIS :unconscious:

2616

[okie52]

Hey Icky yer so Clever How about THIS :unconscious:

2616

LOL

[ictsooner7]

Hey Icky yer so Clever How about THIS :unconscious:

2616

Do i really have to pull out all of the bush foot in mouths?

[olevetonahill]

Do i really have to pull out all of the bush foot in mouths?
W is so last Decade
Grow up

[Curly Bill]

Yup, who gives a rip.

[Soonerjeepman]

The governor didn't show up? How ignorant. Whether or not she likes him, he still is OUR president.


BTW - Nebraska STILL hasn't settled on a route.

that's funny Ict....because where I teach..urban KC...they NEVER called G Bush "OUR" president...it was always "your president"...but got a bit upset when I said the same thing about Obama...most AA people I know did NOT call Bush OUR president...

[cleller]

Well, we can thank O'Bammy for another energy decision...

The new Alaska Pipeline looks like instead of going to BC and eventually hook into the Keystone (or other similar pipeline) will now divert to Valdez and to a newly planned LNG plant to be built there so the LNG from the north slope can be shipped to Asia. This according to a Financial Times story yesterday or Wednesday.

More ramifications from the Keystone denial...

What a waste of time this all has been. After the Obama slap on the Keystone, the Canadians have been trying to find a way to sell the oil to China. Getting it there has lots of problems, of course.

The Chinese are efficient grabbers. They don't care what other people think. They'll squeeze all the resources they can out of Africa, Canada, anyone with something they need.

[OULenexaman]

I always thought after Obama Keystone slap the Chinese would be more pissed.

[StoopTroup]

Once I get the financing for my $150,000 car it will be cheaper than the last drop of oil you all are fighting for. Also, if the figure out how to make the fuel cells for these babies cheaper and or more efficient folks might choose a hydrogen car over a fossil fuel one. Then WTH will you do if Oil is the only thing left to bank on in this State. Sure right now Electric and hydrogen are expensive but if the cost were to come down and Car Companies started making cars from the many ideas they have File 13'd over the last 50 years, it's possible that one of the biggest reasons that the Oil and Gas Industries have to pump oil out of the ground might disappear over night. If that is what the concern about oil and gas is that these companies need the Wealth now so they can survive the switch over to other forms of Energy then I would think President Obama would be one of your most prized friends.

They have these babies already doing 100 MPH.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Hydrogen_vehicle.jpg

[Turd_Ferguson]

They have these babies already doing 100 MPH.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Hydrogen_vehicle.jpgFor how long...8 minutes?

[pphilfran]

Once I get the financing for my $150,000 car it will be cheaper than the last drop of oil you all are fighting for. Also, if the figure out how to make the fuel cells for these babies cheaper and or more efficient folks might choose a hydrogen car over a fossil fuel one. Then WTH will you do if Oil is the only thing left to bank on in this State. Sure right now Electric and hydrogen are expensive but if the cost were to come down and Car Companies started making cars from the many ideas they have File 13'd over the last 50 years, it's possible that one of the biggest reasons that the Oil and Gas Industries have to pump oil out of the ground might disappear over night. If that is what the concern about oil and gas is that these companies need the Wealth now so they can survive the switch over to other forms of Energy then I would think President Obama would be one of your most prized friends.

They have these babies already doing 100 MPH.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Hydrogen_vehicle.jpg

Oil usage will not disappear overnight...

If we stopped selling internal combustion engines today and every vehicle was electric or fuel cell it would take nearly two decades to replace an ice with an electric...

[ictsooner7]

that's funny Ict....because where I teach..urban KC...they NEVER called G Bush "OUR" president...it was always "your president"...but got a bit upset when I said the same thing about Obama...most AA people I know did NOT call Bush OUR president...

Urban KC = republican governors, US congressmen and other republican elected officals direspecting OUR president. Yep you are right, same thing.

[SoonerNate]

He is such a joke. November cannot get here soon enough

[ictsooner7]

He is such a joke. November cannot get here soon enough

Yep so much worse than bush............

[SoonerNate]

Much worse IMO.

I've never seen a POTUS divide Americans the way this man does. All that talk about "we aren't red or blue america but the United States of America" is long gone. I want that Obama back.

[StoopTroup]

Once the RNC picks it's candidate....we will see just who is the real joke. I heard about what a joke he was in 2008 and for the last 3+ years I've heard the same stuff rattled off like the Boy who cried Wolf.

I surely hope the GOP/RNC has more to go with than "ABO"

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Once I get the financing for my $150,000 car it will be cheaper than the last drop of oil you all are fighting for. Also, if the figure out how to make the fuel cells for these babies cheaper and or more efficient folks might choose a hydrogen car over a fossil fuel one. Then WTH will you do if Oil is the only thing left to bank on in this State. Sure right now Electric and hydrogen are expensive but if the cost were to come down and Car Companies started making cars from the many ideas they have File 13'd over the last 50 years, it's possible that one of the biggest reasons that the Oil and Gas Industries have to pump oil out of the ground might disappear over night. If that is what the concern about oil and gas is that these companies need the Wealth now so they can survive the switch over to other forms of Energy then I would think President Obama would be one of your most prized friends.

They have these babies already doing 100 MPH.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Hydrogen_vehicle.jpg

You're doing it wrong.

The answer is the long awaited, vaunted return of STEAM POWER with electronic ignition CNG burners. With boiler technology being what it is today, a fella could make a strong, reliable daily driver for pennies on the dolalr both in vehicle cost and fuel.

[AlboSooner]

Much worse IMO.

I've never seen a POTUS divide Americans the way this man does. All that talk about "we aren't red or blue america but the United States of America" is long gone. I want that Obama back.

You never wanted any Obama.

Second, I'm sure you remember W.

[cleller]

I'm willing to accept that the high price of gas is Bush's fault, as long as the Dem's concede Bush is also responsible for the capture of Bin Laden. Goose/Gander.
As a Republican, I never cared for Bush, but I dislike using him as a fall guy for 3 years even more.

[cleller]

Yep so much worse than bush............

+1. Bush wasn't very good, but o'bama...? Won't accept responsibility for jack, and won't make a decision.

[hawaii 5-0]

I'm willing to accept that the high price of gas is Bush's fault, as long as the Dem's concede Bush is also responsible for the capture of Bin Laden. Goose/Gander.
As a Republican, I never cared for Bush, but I dislike using him as a fall guy for 3 years even more.


I don't blame Bush.

He was just a toady for Cheney, Rummy and Rove.

Bush was never in charge of anything.

5-0

[LiveLaughLove]

I don't blame Bush.

He was just a toady for Cheney, Rummy and Rove.

Bush was never in charge of anything.

5-0

That's almost as idiotic as someone being born in Hawaii not being called a native Hawaiian if they aren't of a particular ancestory... almost.

[hawaii 5-0]

That's almost as idiotic as someone being born in Hawaii not being called a native Hawaiian if they aren't of a particular ancestory... almost.



Still showing your ignorancy I see.

People in Hawaii are very conscious of their ethnicity.

People born here are usually referred to as 'locals'. Ask anyone 'what they are' and they can spell it out real quickly. "I'm 1/4 Filipino, 1/4 Portuguese, 1/8 English with a bit of Korean, Chinese and Samoan."

Some people, it's pretty obvious that they're Chinese mixed, or Japanese mixed. Others you can't tell at all, have that 'local' look. Somebody as white as snow could be named Mr. Kaneshiro or Mrs. Chang because their grandfather was Asian.


If some white person was born on a Navajo reservation would they be called a Navajo or even a Native American simply because of where they were born? Hardly.

I'm sorry if you can't comprehend the difference between native blood and place of birth but I suggest you educate yourself.

5-0

[olevetonahill]

Still showing your ignorancy I see.

People in Hawaii are very conscious of their ethnicity.

People born here are usually referred to as 'locals'. Ask anyone 'what they are' and they can spell it out real quickly. "I'm 1/4 Filipino, 1/4 Portuguese, 1/8 English with a bit of Korean, Chinese and Samoan."

Some people, it's pretty obvious that they're Chinese mixed, or Japanese mixed. Others you can't tell at all, have that 'local' look. Somebody as white as snow could be named Mr. Kaneshiro or Mrs. Chang because their grandfather was Asian.


If some white person was born on a Navajo reservation would they be called a Navajo or even a Native American simply because of where they were born? Hardly.

I'm sorry if you can't comprehend the difference between native blood and place of birth but I suggest you educate yourself.

5-0
So then yer sayin Obama really is a Kenyan.

[hawaii 5-0]

So then yer sayin Obama really is a Kenyan.

You're not payin' attenshun.

Obama is Indonesian. The Kenyan birth certificate was a forgery.


Actually, here he would be called a Hapa. Hapa Haole and Hapa Popole.

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[soonercruiser]

Do i really have to pull out all of the bush foot in mouths?

You should correct the vet!
There aren't 57 states on that map!
:playful:

[ictsooner7]

You should correct the vet!
There aren't 57 states on that map!
:playful:

Yep, as usual when a dem misspeaks its a sign of ingnorance, when a pub does it, it's just a screw up. So lets appy the same standard to bush. His administration will "never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people." MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

kristine:
Bush misspeaks, says his administration seeking 'new ways to harm our country'


(08-05) 10:48 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

President Bush offered up a new entry for his catalog of "Bushisms" on Thursday, declaring that his administration will "never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people."
Bush misspoke as he delivered a speech at the signing ceremony for a $417 billion defense spending bill.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

No one in Bush's audience of military brass or Pentagon chiefs reacted.

The president was working his way toward a larger point. "We must never stop thinking about how best to defend our country. We must always be forward-thinking," he said.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Bush's misstatement "just shows even the most straightforward and plain-spoken people misspeak."

"But the American people know this president speaks with clarity and conviction, and the terrorists know by his actions he means it," McClellan said.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/a/2004/08/05/national1335EDT0615.DTL

[cleller]

Getting back to the topic of Obama, and Cushing:

Do you think Obama enjoyed his visit to Cushing? I've been there a few times, and feel its a victim of that "highway right thru the gut of town" syndrome. Not the most picturesque town around, bless its heart. Hopefully they stopped at Braums for a burger and some crinkle cut fries, followed up by a little ice cream.

It strikes me as a little odd that he came all the way to Cushing to make a speech that was closed to the public. How often does a US president come to Cushing? You'd think the people that live there would at least get an invite.

At least when Kennedy came to Oklahoma to open that highway down in Little Dixie, he made a public speech. Outdoors, with real Okies around.

[ictsooner7]

Getting back to the topic of Obama, and Cushing:

Do you think Obama enjoyed his visit to Cushing? I've been there a few times, and feel its a victim of that "highway right thru the gut of town" syndrome. Not the most picturesque town around, bless its heart. Hopefully they stopped at Braums for a burger and some crinkle cut fries, followed up by a little ice cream.

It strikes me as a little odd that he came all the way to Cushing to make a speech that was closed to the public. How often does a US president come to Cushing? You'd think the people that live there would at least get an invite.

At least when Kennedy came to Oklahoma to open that highway down in Little Dixie, he made a public speech. Outdoors, with real Okies around.

Invitaion only events started with bush in 2004, at least no one got arrested for wearing the wrong tshirt.

[cleller]

Invitaion only events started with bush in 2004, at least no one got arrested for wearing the wrong tshirt.

And here I was trying to tactfully steer that topic back to Obama and Cushing; the present day and all that.

[StoopTroup]

Still....if you want to know what's wrong with things in our Country it's because those at the Top aren't accountable for anything because it impedes progress and without progress America is Dead. We must continue to progress no matter who it hurts.

That said those in the middle and at the bottom are accountable for everything. If they are held accountable those at the top won't be able to keep progress. If they aren't able to progress they blame everyone at the middle and bottom and get paid to bankrupt it, sell it off or chop it up.

True leadership is mostly dead. What's amazing is that right now many in the GOP continue to support a guy like Romney who has never been accountable, bankrupted or chopped up Companies and gotten paid for it and they expect most Americans to not only relate to such a guy but relish him?

Then the entire Obama isn't a Citizen. He is a Socialist. He's ruining America.

Let's just say they are right.

How the hell do you expect Americans to believe you or vote for your guy when they look like the guy that ran the last Company they used to work for into the ground, into bankruptcy or was responsible for chopping it up?

The GOP may have lost this election before it got started.

[Turd_Ferguson]

How the hell do you expect Americans to believe you or vote for your guy when they look like the guy that ran the last Company they used to work for into the ground, into bankruptcy or was responsible for chopping it up?

The GOP may have lost this election before it got started.Can you give some examples of companies he ran into the ground or into bankruptcy?

[Chuck Bao]

Can you give some examples of companies he ran into the ground or into bankruptcy?

Yeah, there are just too many of those to name. How many banks were going bankrupt each week when President Obama took office? You can fault the Obama administration at that time for arranging takeovers in the mistaken belief that the new owners would immediately start lending money, which they didn't.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Yeah, there are just too many of those to name.Really? Ya can't name a few?

[ictsooner7]

And here I was trying to tactfully steer that topic back to Obama and Cushing; the present day and all that.


Originally Posted by cleller

Getting back to the topic of Obama, and Cushing:

Do you think Obama enjoyed his visit to Cushing? I've been there a few times, and feel its a victim of that "highway right thru the gut of town" syndrome. Not the most picturesque town around, bless its heart. Hopefully they stopped at Braums for a burger and some crinkle cut fries, followed up by a little ice cream.

It strikes me as a little odd that he came all the way to Cushing to make a speech that was closed to the public. How often does a US president come to Cushing? You'd think the people that live there would at least get an invite.

At least when Kennedy came to Oklahoma to open that highway down in Little Dixie, he made a public speech. Outdoors, with real Okies around.


Really? While taking a shot at Obama, again. I was just pointing out that it is now standard practice. Did you find it a little odd when bush made speechs that was closed to the public? When Obama does it, it's some sign that Obama is not a real American or some such, typical. As for how often does a US president come to Cushing, OK, you would think the governor would have the decency to greet him.

[cleller]

Really? While taking a shot at Obama, again. I was just pointing out that it is now standard practice. Did you find it a little odd when bush made speechs that was closed to the public? When Obama does it, it's some sign that Obama is not a real American or some such, typical. As for how often does a US president come to Cushing, OK, you would think the governor would have the decency to greet him.

Like I said, I am trying to discuss Obama and Cushing. What is wrong, did Bush take your lunch money or something? Bush is not the president, has not been for over 3 years.

[ictsooner7]

Like I said, I am trying to discuss Obama and Cushing. What is wrong, did Bush take your lunch money or something? Bush is not the president, has not been for over 3 years.

Funny how ya'll want to talk about Carter ad nauseum, but we cannot bring up what bush did, three LONG years ago. I was just pointing out BUSH did it too and it was ok when he did it, just like the deficits, bailouts and not wearing a tie in the oval office.

[olevetonahill]

Funny how ya'll want to talk about Carter ad nauseum, but we cannot bring up what bush did, three LONG years ago. I was just pointing out BUSH did it too and it was ok when he did it, just like the deficits, bailouts and not wearing a tie in the oval office.

Whats this "YALL" ****?
Lets talk about Obama and his Accomplishments and HIS failures.

[cleller]

Funny how ya'll want to talk about Carter ad nauseum, but we cannot bring up what bush did, three LONG years ago. I was just pointing out BUSH did it too and it was ok when he did it, just like the deficits, bailouts and not wearing a tie in the oval office.

Carter? Ad nauseum? I just searched thru the thread, and the only time I see him mentioned was by you. Please, just try to focus on the topic. Carter was a nice guy, he doesn't deserve to have his named dragged thru the mud at this stage of the game.

Only losers blame the past.

[ictsooner7]

Carter? Ad nauseum? I just searched thru the thread, and the only time I see him mentioned was by you. Please, just try to focus on the topic. Carter was a nice guy, he doesn't deserve to have his named dragged thru the mud at this stage of the game.

Only losers blame the past.

OH PLEASE, the right always throws carter up when talking about the economy. Give me a break.

http://imthatold.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/etch-a-sketch-magic-screen.jpg

[okie52]

Still showing your ignorancy I see.

People in Hawaii are very conscious of their ethnicity.

People born here are usually referred to as 'locals'. Ask anyone 'what they are' and they can spell it out real quickly. "I'm 1/4 Filipino, 1/4 Portuguese, 1/8 English with a bit of Korean, Chinese and Samoan."

Some people, it's pretty obvious that they're Chinese mixed, or Japanese mixed. Others you can't tell at all, have that 'local' look. Somebody as white as snow could be named Mr. Kaneshiro or Mrs. Chang because their grandfather was Asian.


If some white person was born on a Navajo reservation would they be called a Navajo or even a Native American simply because of where they were born? Hardly.

I'm sorry if you can't comprehend the difference between native blood and place of birth but I suggest you educate yourself.

5-0

So you're living on a reservation. Will your medicine man be covered by obamacare or is that only good for Hawaiians?

[ictsooner7]

So you're living on a reservation. Will your medicine man be covered by obamacare or is that only good for Hawaiians?

No, probably by Bush's Part D.

[okie52]

No, probably by Bush's Part D.

Well that's too bad. My chickasaw blood would pay for my medical...and I still am able to call myself an oklahoman.

[ictsooner7]

Well that's too bad. My chickasaw blood pays for would pay for my medical...and I still am able to call myself an oklahoman.

So you get government healthcare?


Did you see Carp is out indefinitely? One to two months.

[okie52]

So you get government healthcare?


Did you see Carp is out indefinitely? One to two months.

Chickasaw healthcare is available to me but I have yet to take advantage of it beyond 2 pairs of glasses. it is totally paid for by the chickasaws not the Feds. In a few years I'll be eligible fo Medicare and the chickasaws will pick up the difference. I didn't even know I was fully covered until a year ago so I've wasted a lot of bucks for private insurance.

I was worried about carp...it will be nice when we have both carp and wainwright both in the rotation.

[sappstuf]

Whats this "YALL" ****?
Lets talk about Obama and his Accomplishments and HIS failures.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2k22z8vH128/TGqy7jnSxaI/AAAAAAAAH1Q/XFIwNIDX_6E/s1600/blame_bush_sticker-p217911024786683152qjcl_400.jpg

[ictsooner7]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2k22z8vH128/TGqy7jnSxaI/AAAAAAAAH1Q/XFIwNIDX_6E/s1600/blame_bush_sticker-p217911024786683152qjcl_400.jpg

Yep, fixes none, dow over 13,000 - 8,000 when he took office, economy shedding over 600k jobs a month now adding 250k per month, gdp -.02 now +3%. Tell me again not fixing any problems? At the end of this month all the private sector jobs lost under Obama will have been gained back.

[cleller]

Yep, fixes none, dow over 13,000 - 8,000 when he took office, economy shedding over 600k jobs a month now adding 250k per month, gdp -.02 now +3%. Tell me again not fixing any problems? At the end of this month all the private sector jobs lost under Obama will have been gained back.

Bush did that.

[ictsooner7]

Bush did that.

Bush did what?

[cleller]

Bush did what?

Eh, just trying to point out that if everything bad that happens today is Bush's fault, why shouldn't everything good that happens be due to Bush also?

One makes about as much sense as the other.

[AlboSooner]

While I don't think Obama should ever mention Bush ever again, I do think policies have an overreaching effect well into the future. I don't think it's weird that we still suffer or benefit from Bush's policies during his tenure at the managerial position as the president.

[StoopTroup]

While I don't think Obama should ever mention Bush ever again, I do think policies have an overreaching effect well into the future. I don't think it's weird that we still suffer or benefit from Bush's policies during his tenure at the managerial position as the president.

We still benefit from Bush's policies? Is that a pretty high percentage? Because right now I'm trying to find one that I know of.

Opps. I remember one. It's the Treaty he signed that Obama made good on that ended our occupation in Iraq but that's over so I'm still looking I guess.

Honestly I have a hard time thinking any good can come from not mentioning the last president as even I still think we should always remember history. We should always remember how Nixon stopped the Vietnam War. Ford - Pardoning Nixon, Reagan and Iran Contras, Carter and the Failed attempt to get our hostages out, GHB - Read my Lips, Clinton - I did not not have sexual relations with that Woman, GWB - Mission Accomplished, WMDs, Abu Ghraib.....

[okie52]

We still benefit from Bush's policies? Is that a pretty high percentage? Because right now I'm trying to find one that I know of.

Opps. I remember one. It's the Treaty he signed that Obama made good on that ended our occupation in Iraq but that's over so I'm still looking I guess.

Honestly I have a hard time thinking any good can come from not mentioning the last president as even I still think we should always remember history. We should always remember how Nixon stopped the Vietnam War. Ford - Pardoning Nixon, Reagan and Iran Contras, Carter and the Failed attempt to get our hostages out, GHB - Read my Lips, Clinton - I did not not have sexual relations with that Woman, GWB - Mission Accomplished, WMDs, Abu Ghraib.....

Bush opened the Atlantic and pacific coasts to drilling until the "all of the above" energy president closed them back down.

[ictsooner7]

Bush opened the Atlantic and pacific coasts to drilling until the "all of the above" energy president closed them back down.

So..............bush opened up the coasts to drilling the a REPUBLICAN president put in, in late summer of 2008, seven and a half years since he took office and they can't even bid on leases until 2012. How has this hurt our production? They wouldn't be in production now even if they weren't closed. What a joke.



Bush Administration
During the second Bush administration, the debate about oil drilling became a central political issue. Although Texas and Louisiana have continued to drill for oil within the 10.5 mile area around the state, a 2006 compromise opened up a 8.3 million acre area in the Gulf of Mexico to offshore drilling. Two years later, President George W. Bush lifted the executive order signed by the elder Bush, opening up the possibility of offshore drilling. However, with the 1981 ban still in place, companies cannot bid on leases until 2012.

[okie52]

So..............bush opened up the coasts to drilling the a REPUBLICAN president put in, in late summer of 2008, seven and a half years since he took office and they can't even bid on leases until 2012. How has this hurt our production? They wouldn't be in production now even if they weren't closed. What a joke.



Bush Administration
During the second Bush administration, the debate about oil drilling became a central political issue. Although Texas and Louisiana have continued to drill for oil within the 10.5 mile area around the state, a 2006 compromise opened up a 8.3 million acre area in the Gulf of Mexico to offshore drilling. Two years later, President George W. Bush lifted the executive order signed by the elder Bush, opening up the possibility of offshore drilling. However, with the 1981 ban still in place, companies cannot bid on leases until 2012.

Areas in the gulf of Mexico Icky, not the atlantic or pacific. There is still a ban in place around parts of Florida until 2022.

W had areas already set for sale in the atlantic in 2010 which Obama pushed Back to 2012 and then banned altogether. Do I need to get you my charts again?

How has he hurt production? It's the production of 2015, 2016, 2017, etc...that will be affected since any offshore leasing/drilling will be 5 years out before production is seen. Now if you want to look at offshore leasing...$9.5 billion lease bonus sales in 2008 and $36 million in 2011.

[pphilfran]

Solar and wind will make up for it...

[olevetonahill]

Solar and wind will make up for it...

Is Icky gonna be in charge of the "Hot Air" division?

[Curly Bill]

Does anyone think Icky is a plant put here by Phil to sort of stir things up in the most amusingly stupid way to create more traffic? I mean come on, no one is really that stupid right?