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soonercoop1
2/16/2012, 05:50 PM
Not possible.

Midtowner
2/16/2012, 06:13 PM
'splain.

SicEmBaylor
2/16/2012, 06:40 PM
Socially liberal or socially libertarian? Keep in mind, there is a difference.

SanJoaquinSooner
2/16/2012, 07:32 PM
Do you mean advocating the legality of same sex marriage prohibits one from supporting balanced budgets?

XingTheRubicon
2/16/2012, 08:18 PM
Which party are you if you prefer able-bodied people who aren't willing to work to starve to death?

yermom
2/16/2012, 08:21 PM
Which party are you if you prefer able-bodied people who aren't willing to work to starve to death?

what does that have to do with legislating morality?

XingTheRubicon
2/16/2012, 08:27 PM
There was one?

MR2-Sooner86
2/16/2012, 08:59 PM
Not possible.

You're looking at one.

It's called the Constitution, it's a pretty cool document you should check out sometime. That whole "freedom and liberty" thing is rather nice.

OhU1
2/16/2012, 09:27 PM
Your imagination is lacking. Being financially responsible and conservatrive and being for personal liberty and freedom are in no way incompatible.

TUSooner
2/16/2012, 10:51 PM
Still waiting for the explanation of why this is impossible.....


<crickets chirping>

diverdog
2/16/2012, 11:00 PM
Not possible.

Senator Bill Roth.

soonercoop1
2/17/2012, 06:33 PM
Your imagination is lacking. Being financially responsible and conservatrive and being for personal liberty and freedom are in no way incompatible.

You forgot the socially liberal part...

soonercoop1
2/17/2012, 06:36 PM
Senator Bill Roth.

401K Bill?

diverdog
2/17/2012, 07:49 PM
401K Bill?

Roth IRA.

cleller
2/17/2012, 09:15 PM
I think I may understand. I support smaller government, lower taxes, abhor social programs, yet believe abortion should be legal.

On the abortion issue, I cannot defend it on religious grounds, but don't believe the government can support all the illegitimate kids flooding our country.

I would support orphanages and poor houses.

yermom
2/17/2012, 09:26 PM
those sound like social programs to me...

AlboSooner
2/18/2012, 01:30 AM
what does that have to do with legislating morality?

What does this question mean? Aren't all laws based on morality? You have to make a moral judgement in order to make a law which enforces that moral stance in the jurisdiction of the law.

yermom
2/18/2012, 02:31 AM
What does this question mean? Aren't all laws based on morality? You have to make a moral judgement in order to make a law which enforces that moral stance in the jurisdiction of the law. Why can't the constitution just be a copy of The Bible?

FTFY

JohnnyMack
2/18/2012, 09:05 AM
I am an atheist and I'm voting for Ron Paul. Eat it.

AlboSooner
2/18/2012, 10:55 AM
Way to engage in honest debate there, atheos cruiser.

badger
2/18/2012, 11:36 AM
By being a chick.

JohnnyMack
2/18/2012, 01:15 PM
Way to engage in honest debate there, atheos cruiser.

After being around this place for a decade I know I'm not changing anyone's mind and quite honestly I don't give a **** what anyone else thinks.

soonercoop1
2/19/2012, 09:48 AM
Social conservative = government in your personal business
fiscal conservative = government out of your business
Social liberal = government out of your personal business
fiscal liberal = government in your business

So to me, if you are a social and fiscal conservative, you are a hypocrite.
If you are a social and fiscal liberal, you are a hypocrite.

Only someone who is a fiscal conservative/social liberal or someone who is a social conservative/fiscal liberal are not hypocrites and are therefore not contradictory in their thinking.

I think the majority of independents or moderates are fiscal conservatives/ social liberal.

I think maybe those 2 are reversed...