Barry in BIG trouble

[Whet]

with his low poll numbers -from Gallup



Conn Carroll is reporting that Gallup released a memo earlier this week titled, "Where the U.S. Election Stands Now (http://www.gallup.com/poll/152486/Election-Stands.aspx)
," comparing past presidential approval ratings with each candidates reelection results. Gallup concluded:
This historical pattern suggests that Obama would need to see his job approval rating climb to 50% to be in a comfortable position for re-election. History shows that by March of the election year, all winning presidents in the modern era, including George W. Bush, had job approval ratings above 50%, and all losing presidents had job approval ratings below 50%. This suggests that where Obama stands by next month may be an important indicator of his ultimate re-election chances.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_image2/Gallup-2-9-12.jpg
According to Gallup's most recent daily tracking poll, Obama's current approval rating is even at 47 percent. He has not been over 50 percent since Osama bin Laden was killed last May.

[Whet]

http://moonbattery.com/obama-columbia-ID-card.jpg

[SoonerPride]

Also quoted from your link...

Two presidents were re-elected with sub-50% approval ratings. George W. Bush had 48% approval in October 2004 among national adults. Harry Truman's final Gallup job approval rating in 1948 was 40%...

And the latest poll shows...

President Barack Obama's approval rating increased to 49 percent while Congress' approval rating was at an all-time low of 10 percent Thursday

http://mobile.masslive.com/advmasslive/pm_104301/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=PlzWPcyU

Too bad he's not running in a vacuum and instead running against whomever the Republicans nominate, huh.

If the GOP had any credible candidate his approval rating hovering around 50% might spell real trouble. Fortunately for President Obama, he most likely will be facing Mitt Romney, who engenders enthusiasm in exactly 15 people.

And those are his kids.

[cleller]

I thought it had been proven and accepted as fact the Bush II was the most unpopular president ever. Guess not.

[SoonerPride]

I thought it had been proven and accepted as fact the Bush II was the most unpopular president ever. Guess not.

His popularity after 9/11 rose to historically high levels.

Over time those numbers were tempered by a realization that he was out of his depth.

Had the Democrats fielded a decent candidate Bush might have been defeated. Instead they nominated a wealthy wooden Massachusetts politician.

Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar.

[Curly Bill]

His popularity after 9/11 rose to historically high levels.

Over time those numbers were tempered by a realization that he was out of his depth.

Had the Democrats fielded a decent candidate Bush might have been defeated. Instead they nominated a wealthy wooden Massachusetts politician.

Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar.

Sounds like Obama to me.

[cleller]

His popularity after 9/11 rose to historically high levels.

Over time those numbers were tempered by a realization that he was out of his depth.




None of those poll numbers were in the time range of 9/11. Obama's numbers do include the killing of Bin Laden, which it looks like had little effect.

[C&CDean]

His popularity after 9/11 rose to historically high levels.

Over time those numbers were tempered by a realization that he was out of his depth.

Had the Democrats fielded a decent candidate Bush might have been defeated. Instead they nominated a wealthy wooden Massachusetts politician.

Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar.

One question. Well actually two. 1) Do you think O is doing a good job? 2) Are you actually willing to admit you'd vote for him again?

I'll take it off the air...

[badger]

None of those poll numbers were in the time range of 9/11. Obama's numbers do include the killing of Bin Laden, which it looks like had little effect.

I think Americans were giving the military and the Seals that carried out the mission all the credit there, not the president that gave the order. Funny how that works, eh?

There's still lots of election to go and Obama's not up for election till November (unless you really believe any of these states' perennial candidates have a chance at getting the Democratic nomination, hehe). Anything can happen between now and then that could change these numbers... but it would have to be huge.

[SoonerPride]

One question. Well actually two. 1) Do you think O is doing a good job? 2) Are you actually willing to admit you'd vote for him again?

I'll take it off the air...

As a liberal I think he has failed to deliver in the way I'd like. However, he has come through on promises which prompted me to vote for him in the first place.

1. He has turned the economy around. We were losing 750,000 jobs per month as President Bush left office. For 23 straight months we have seen private sector job growth. Unemployment is still too high at 8.3% but it is headed in the right direction.

2. He passed the Affordable Care Act. I know this upsets many on the right, though I don't exactly understand why since he championed the plan that everyone in the GOP championed in the 1990s. Rick Santorum is right. The Massachusetts model put in by Governor Romney is the GOP blueprint and Gingrich was a vocal proponent of precisely the plan which was passed. Their argument against healthcare reform is tempered by their prior stances in support of personal mandates to purchase health insurance from the private sector. At the time the mantra was "personal responsibility." No one seems to remember the right ever saying that. I do. I would prefer a single payer system like England or Canada, or well pretty much any other first world economy. But I'll live with the healthcare reform as passed, even if it is a GOP idea.

3. Repealed DADT. It was a stupid rule and was harming our military.

Those are three, but there are many other things he has done of which I approve.

I think (and hoped) he might have done more, but he is too moderate for my taste. Of course the right wing thinks he's a communist. So, whatever.

And yes, I'll vote for him and donate to his campaign again.

As the opposition stands now, I don't see him losing re-election.

[LiveLaughLove]

I think (and hoped) he might have done more, but he is too moderate for my taste. Of course the right wing thinks he's a communist. So, whatever.

If he is a moderate, the real question is who would you vote for?

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Pol Pot

Can't think of many others to the left of him.

[SoonerPride]

If he is a moderate, the real question is who would you vote for?

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Pol Pot

Can't think of many others to the left of him.

Then there isn't much to discuss with you.

[Midtowner]

If he is a moderate, the real question is who would you vote for?

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Pol Pot

Can't think of many others to the left of him.

History and basic concepts fail.

[badger]

I think (and hoped) he might have done more, but he is too moderate for my taste. Of course the right wing thinks he's a communist. So, whatever.

I know I'm mentioned this year before, but I burst out laughing when my liberal neighbor suggested that Obama was actually acting like a Republican. I laughed because I knew how unpopular he was among people who identified themselves as Republicans.

I also remembered conservatives lamenting that W. was too moderate for their tastes, which I also found amusing, because... well, Democrats hated W! They loved calling him dumb and calling into question his policies on Iraq and the bailouts and such.

Politics as usual, I guess.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

If he is a moderate, the real question is who would you vote for?

1. Mao
2. Stalin
3. Pol Pot

Can't think of many others to the left of Obeary-O. Would you rate Fidel and/or Hugo Chavez as ideologicaly similar to El Presidente Obear?

[fwsooner22]

I have no problem being Liberal as long as the money you are giving away is your own not mine.

[SoonerPride]

I have no problem being Liberal as long as the money you are giving away is your own not mine.

As long as you agree not to use our public roads, fire protection, or police, you can keep all your precious money to yourself. Otherwise, you should contribute to the greater social good.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I have no problem being Liberal as long as the money you are giving away is your own not mine.THAT is NOT being liberal

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

As long as you agree not to use our public roads, fire protection, or police, you can keep all your precious money to yourself. Otherwise, you should contribute to the greater social good.Funny you have mentioned only viable, legal activities of govt. Ones that conservatives don't have problems with.




(PLEASE don't vote!..for anything, ever. KThnx)

[LiveLaughLove]

As long as you agree not to use our public roads, fire protection, or police, you can keep all your precious money to yourself. Otherwise, you should contribute to the greater social good.

So we can agree that these are all government should be taking our money for? I agree. Oh yeah, and defense. You forgot that one. Silly you.

[REDREX]

As long as you agree not to use our public roads, fire protection, or police, you can keep all your precious money to yourself. Otherwise, you should contribute to the greater social good.----This could work well----That would take the 50% of the people that don't pay any income tax off the roads

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Whet, where did you get that PRICELESS photo of Moochelle, in full attack mode?


Although the best political photo I can remember on here is the one that Badger had in her avatar for a while. It was Nasty Pelosi, so lathered up I couldn't even recognize her, with her veins bulging, and her teeth gnashing, if I remember correctly.

[AlboSooner]

He doesn't deserve to be re-elected.

[soonercruiser]

Fight the "Good Fight" my conservative friends!
'Cause, it ain't over, 'till it's over!

[C&CDean]

Fight the "Good Fight" my conservative friends!
'Cause, it ain't over, 'till it's over!

And when one of "our" clones gets elected, what then?

They're all uber POS. There's not a single politician in the running for POTUS that's worthy of my vote. From any party. Only an idiot/fool/dildo/nimrod would say "Obama is doing a good job and I'll vote/contribute to him again" and only a idiot/fool/dildo/nimrod would say "anybody but Obama!!"

The "anybody but Obama" crowd are just clones of the "anybody but Bush" crowd. Obama is the worst president in the history of the galaxy, but somebody tell me how any of the crap running against him will be better. It'll be more of the same ol' same ol' with the only difference being the loudmouth libs will be whining/crying instead of the loudmouth republicans. A giant, steaming pile of meh.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

If the new R POTUS immediately takes out Obamacare, will you still be singing the same Moral Equivalence tune?

[Bourbon St Sooner]

And when one of "our" clones gets elected, what then?

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[Whet]

There is a distinct difference in philosophy between the two camps. The Obamaites - share your money with those that don't work, government should have more control in your life, dependence on the government, and a distinct socialistic view of society. The other camp - more self-control; the individual is responsible for his/her decisions; people should be less dependent on the government for making decisions (if someone wants to eat goose liver, let them); people that work hard, should be rewarded, not penalized; a more free-enterprise, reward those that work, society; and NO whacko, extreme leftwing Czars and political appointees that want to regulate farm created dust!

So, you must decide which side you support and vote. Not voting will just play into the hands of the former group.

[SoonerPride]

There is a distinct difference in philosophy between the two camps. The Obamaites - share your money with those that don't work, government should have more control in your life, dependence on the government, and a distinct socialistic view of society. The other camp - more self-control; the individual is responsible for his/her decisions; people should be less dependent on the government for making decisions (if someone wants to eat goose liver, let them); people that work hard, should be rewarded, not penalized; a more free-enterprise, reward those that work, society; and NO whacko, extreme leftwing Czars and political appointees that want to regulate farm created dust!

So, you must decide which side you support and vote. Not voting will just play into the hands of the former group.

Hahahahahahaha

That was the most hilarious, paranoid, fundamentally incorrect summation of the US political system I have read since a loon handed me a John Birch Society tract at the fair.

Have we met before?

[StoopTroup]

Hahahahahahaha

That was the most hilarious, paranoid, fundamentally incorrect summation of the US political system I have read since a loon handed me a John Birch Society tract at the fair.

Have we met before?

LOL

[Whet]

Deny, deny, deny. Basic differences are as described.

[Whet]

Let's look at some of Barry's Czars:

Richard Holbrooke - Ultra liberal, anti-gun former governor of New Mexico -- pro Abortion and legal drug use.

Hannah Rosenthal - serves on the board of J Street, a lobby group that is mostly led by left-leaning Israelis and that receives funds from Arab and Muslim Americans.

Van Jones - formerly a self-described "rowdy black nationalist," boasted in a 2005 interview that his environmental activism was a means to fight for racial and class "justice." I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."

Gary Samore - Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith.

Ashton Carter - Wants all private weapons in US confiscated and destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America.

Chai R. Feldblum - a signatory to a radical 2006 manifesto which endorsed polygamous households and argued traditional marriage should not be privileged "above all others."

Cameron Davis -Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for poisoning the water that minorities have to drink. No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member.

Daniel Fried - Rights activist for foreign terrorists. Believes America has caused the terrorism in the world.

Nancy-Ann DeParle - Strong health care rationing proponent.

Dennis Blair - Retired Navy admiral. Stopped US guided missile program as "provocative." Chair of ultra-liberal Council on Foreign Relations, which blames American organizations for regional wars.

Todd Stern - Anti-business former White House Chief of Staff. Strong supporter of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade Bill. Blames US business for Global warming.

Ron Bloom - Former head of the United Auto Workers. He's anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler, which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?
It was announced on August 24, 2009 by the National Right To Work Legal Defense Foundation, Inc., that Ron Bloom, former United Steelworkers Union executive, who was appointed by Obama as his "car czar" some months ago, will soon be named to oversee ALL of America’s manufacturing.

Dr. Donald Berwick - Berwick is also a partisan of state run health care, an advocate of government re-distribution of wealth and an ardent socialist.

Cass Sunstein - has made no secret of his devotion to the cause of establishing legal "rights" for livestock, wildlife, and pets. He has straight out said, "We ought to ban hunting."

Earl Devaney - Believes in Open Borders with Mexico. Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico.
Adolfo Carrion Jr. - Puerto Rican, anti-American activist and leftist group member in Latin America. Millionaire Slum Lord of the Bronx, NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from sweetheart deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes to pay for minority housing and health care.

Kenneth Feinberg
John P. Holdren
plus many more.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Hahahahahahaha

That was the most hilarious, paranoid, fundamentally incorrect summation of the US political system I have read since a loon handed me a John Birch Society tract at the fair.

Have we met before?Sounds pretty spot on to me. Let's hear your summation of the two parties. Maybe ST will LOL at that too...

[StoopTroup]

Sounds pretty spot on to me. Let's hear your summation of the two parties. Maybe ST will LOL at that too...

I am LMFAO about it all as none of it has anything much to do with any of us in Oklahoma.

The GOP has a bunch of clowns that if one of them can actually beat Obama in the General Election in Novenber....I'll be surprised and if they do....I think we are another 5-6 years away or maybe more before we as Americans finally get tired of the Elite in DC screwing up the Country for either the Rich or the Poor. They have forgotten about the middle class who pays the burden of the taxes in this Country and spur the spending that keeps our Country as consumers on the cutting edge globally.

No Middle Class....No America.

[Whet]

I am LMFAO about it all as none of it has anything much to do with any of us in Oklahoma.

Is Oklahoma exempt from Obamacare?
Are there no farms in Oklahoma?
No mining in Oklahoma?
Is the housing industry doing great in Oklahoma?
Does Oklahoma have a problem with illegal immigrants taxing the State's resources?
How is American Airlines doing these days?
Are there any Catholic institutions in Oklahoma?

Yes, this does impact Oklahoma.

[SoonerPride]

Hahahahahahaha

That was the most hilarious, paranoid, fundamentally incorrect summation of the US political system I have read since a loon handed me a John Birch Society tract at the fair.

Have we met before?Sounds pretty spot on to me. Let's hear your summation of the two parties. Maybe ST will LOL at that too...

Rather than two sides of the same coin they are on the same side of the coin. Sure one party is slightly left of center and the other more on the right side (not to be confused with correct).

But both are beholden to money and rich donors, corporations, or unions. Any large donor is a player and the regular voter (i.e. you and me) are utterly meaningless.

I only marginally support one party over the because they don't seem entirely consumed by fealty to the religious zealots. Buy only slightly so.

But in reality when push comes to shove there isn't a hairs breadth difference between them.

Don't believe it?

All you have to do is look at how much government spending exploded under the prior administration.

Neither party is serious about solving anything. That would be bad for their next fund raising effort. Each needs the other as a foil.

We're just the fodder.

[StoopTroup]

Is Oklahoma exempt from Obamacare?
Are there no farms in Oklahoma?
No mining in Oklahoma?
Is the housing industry doing great in Oklahoma?
Does Oklahoma have a problem with illegal immigrants taxing the State's resources?
How is American Airlines doing these days?
Are there any Catholic institutions in Oklahoma?

Yes, this does impact Oklahoma.

If it becomes Federal Law it affects everyone equally. Again...you miss the reason I'm laughing. Fixing things for the Whole is better than continuing to see the many argue about what the best thing is for the Whole.

The Civil War should be a really good example of why the Fed got involved in making decisions that would treat the Whole equally.

[StoopTroup]

Neither party is serious about solving anything. That would be bad for their next fund raising effort. Each needs the other as a foil.

We're just the fodder.

Nice.

[sappstuf]

If it becomes Federal Law it affects everyone equally. Again...you miss the reason I'm laughing. Fixing things for the Whole is better than continuing to see the many argue about what the best thing is for the Whole.

The Civil War should be a really good example of why the Fed got involved in making decisions that would treat the Whole equally.

Except Obama will give waivers to the unions and all of his other friends... But the rest of us rubes... Yeah, equally.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Rather than two sides of the same coin they are on the same side of the coin. Sure one party is slightly left of center and the other more on the right side (not to be confused with correct).

But both are beholden to money and rich donors, corporations, or unions. Any large donor is a player and the regular voter (i.e. you and me) are utterly meaningless.

I only marginally support one party over the because they don't seem entirely consumed by fealty to the religious zealots. Buy only slightly so.

But in reality when push comes to shove there isn't a hairs breadth difference between them.

Don't believe it?

All you have to do is look at how much government spending exploded under the prior administration.

Neither party is serious about solving anything. That would be bad for their next fund raising effort. Each needs the other as a foil.

We're just the fodder.Wow, your a **** poor troll...

Edit: I agree with your post...

[StoopTroup]

Except Obama will give waivers to the unions and all of his other friends... But the rest of us rubes... Yeah, equally.

There are like around 13% of the workforce in this country that are unions. America has effectively done away with unions. I don't really get this whole Unions are evil but when the NFL, NBA or MLB suddenly aren't going to have a season....it's because of the greedy players at the top and the owners. It's never the guys making league minimum.

It's some funny stuff.

Some Companies with lots of employees are really in a much better position to cheaply negotiate their Agreements with the few that take care of the many and then can run their companies with less management as the Union takes care of the crews instead of having a lead Company Man for every 4 or 5 guys.

It happens to be a much better way statistically in some cases. Not all....but some.

[SouthCarolinaSooner]

http://moonbattery.com/obama-columbia-ID-card.jpg
You bitter, bro?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You bitter, bro?You likee the criminality, bro?

[Phil]

And when one of "our" clones gets elected, what then?

They're all uber POS. There's not a single politician in the running for POTUS that's worthy of my vote. From any party. Only an idiot/fool/dildo/nimrod would say "Obama is doing a good job and I'll vote/contribute to him again" and only a idiot/fool/dildo/nimrod would say "anybody but Obama!!"

The "anybody but Obama" crowd are just clones of the "anybody but Bush" crowd. Obama is the worst president in the history of the galaxy, but somebody tell me how any of the crap running against him will be better. It'll be more of the same ol' same ol' with the only difference being the loudmouth libs will be whining/crying instead of the loudmouth republicans. A giant, steaming pile of meh.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Mississippi Sooner]

And that, too. I find it fascinating that people actually get so invested in this eternal pile of crap.