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Whet
2/5/2012, 02:22 PM
In the tradition of the entire Kennedy clan, JF was just as scummy as the rest of them. Oh, the difference between a compliant liberal press and TV networks that continued to keep his antics secret. Compare this to Clinton's whore dogging - without Drudge Report, which broke the Monica story. (If Drudge didn't report it, would the leftist press ever report it?)



Teen mistress addresses relationship, pol's Cold War fears in memoir


She always called him “Mr. President” — not Jack. He refused to kiss her on the lips when they made love. But Mimi Alford, a White House intern from New Jersey, was smitten nonetheless.
She was in the midst of an 18-month affair with the most powerful man in the world, sharing not only John F. Kennedy’s bed but also some of his darkest and most intimate moments.
In her explosive new tell-all, “Once Upon a Secret: My Affair with President John F. Kennedy and Its Aftermath,” Alford, now a 69-year-old grandmother and retired New York City church administrator, sets the record straight in searingly candid detail. The book, out Wednesday was bought by The Post at a Manhattan bookstore.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyyS smK#ixzz1lXLRIUlY

Breadburner
2/5/2012, 02:57 PM
That Jfk was spraying that man-relish on everything he could get his hands on......

okie52
2/5/2012, 03:03 PM
Camelot??? Cumelot?

nighttrain12
2/5/2012, 03:15 PM
Anybody that got to tap Marilyn Monroe's hiney is o.k. in my book.

Breadburner
2/5/2012, 03:58 PM
Anybody that got to tap Marilyn Monroe's hiney is o.k. in my book.


Jfk sucked Joe D's dick by Proxy....???

SoonerPride
2/5/2012, 05:51 PM
In the tradition of the entire Kennedy clan, JF was just as scummy as the rest of them. Oh, the difference between a compliant liberal press and TV networks that continued to keep his antics secret. Compare this to Clinton's whore dogging - without Drudge Report, which broke the Monica story. (If Drudge didn't report it, would the leftist press ever report it?)



Teen mistress addresses relationship, pol's Cold War fears in memoir


She always called him “Mr. President” — not Jack. He refused to kiss her on the lips when they made love. But Mimi Alford, a White House intern from New Jersey, was smitten nonetheless.
She was in the midst of an 18-month affair with the most powerful man in the world, sharing not only John F. Kennedy’s bed but also some of his darkest and most intimate moments.
In her explosive new tell-all, “Once Upon a Secret: My Affair with President John F. Kennedy and Its Aftermath,” Alford, now a 69-year-old grandmother and retired New York City church administrator, sets the record straight in searingly candid detail. The book, out Wednesday was bought by The Post at a Manhattan bookstore.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyyS smK#ixzz1lXLRIUlY

I don't think he ever asked his ONE wife for an open marriage.

Yeah, men in power like to fool around. So?

It ain't new(t).

The only thing new(t) about it was the manufactured outrage of the so called family values crowd of the 1900s. When it turned out they were just a bunch of hypocrites it wasn't all too surprising.

I ain't voting for a Saint. I want someone who knows how to get things done. I'd take a dozen "unfaithful" Bill Clintons who did a great job in office over one "faithful" George Bush who was an abject failure on the job.

Whet
2/5/2012, 05:53 PM
Kennedys + Clintons = Whore dogs.

Kennedy would rather his kids grow up as commies, than dead. I wonder if Johnny did grow up as a Red, he would have learned to fly?

AlboSooner
2/5/2012, 06:10 PM
You have to do some pretty immoral things to be President. I've never looked at most ex-Presidents as beacons of morality regardless if they were adulterers or not.

SanJoaquinSooner
2/5/2012, 06:40 PM
Kennedys + Clintons = Whore dogs.

Kennedy would rather his kids grow up as commies, than dead. I wonder if Johnny did grow up as a Red, he would have learned to fly?

Kennedy no doubt was a *****monger, but he was an anti-communist. You missed the mark on the commie/red comments.

hawaii 5-0
2/5/2012, 08:05 PM
Kennedy no doubt was a *****monger, but he was an anti-communist. You missed the mark on the commie/red comments.


Yep, that was pretty ignorant.

5-0

Whet
2/5/2012, 08:54 PM
riiiight


“I’d rather my children red than dead,” he told her.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyyS smK#ixzz1lYwiqGzL

StoopTroup
2/5/2012, 09:10 PM
JFK was 10 times the man Gingrich believes himself to be.

StoopTroup
2/5/2012, 09:31 PM
Whet....

You continue to prove why the Gov't makes decisions to keep many things that Presidents said or acted on a secret. Whether it was true or not....people will use the past documents or actions as political cannon fodder to help put the next piece of crap they think is white as snow.

cleller
2/5/2012, 10:35 PM
JFK's image has surely been inflated. He was a smart, savvy guy, though. LBJ, on the other hand, was an idiot of the first order. His Great Society BS unleashed a crime wave and welfare state we've never recovered from.

jkjsooner
2/5/2012, 10:57 PM
In the tradition of the entire Kennedy clan, JF was just as scummy as the rest of them. Oh, the difference between a compliant liberal press and TV networks that continued to keep his antics secret.

That had nothing to do with a liberal press. That's just the way the media was back then. They didn't involve themselves in the personal lives of the President.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it didn't have anything to do with liberal or conservative.

Turd_Ferguson
2/5/2012, 11:07 PM
That had nothing to do with a liberal press. That's just the way the media was back then. They didn't involve themselves in the personal lives of the President.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it didn't have anything to do with liberal or conservative.And you know this how?

ouwasp
2/5/2012, 11:10 PM
If JFK had lived, he may very well have been undone by his zipper. Hoover's FBI was looking into him fooling around with an East German commie-girl when Oswald shot the Prez. Thus, he was made a martyr...

SouthCarolinaSooner
2/6/2012, 04:03 AM
riiiight
He'd rather his children live than die, what a terrible man. Whet, do you planning on executing your children now that America has become a socialist paradise?

Whet
2/6/2012, 07:17 AM
If JFK had lived, he may very well have been undone by his zipper. Hoover's FBI was looking into him fooling around with an East German commie-girl when Oswald shot the Prez. Thus, he was made a martyr...

At the time he was killed, Kennedy was not faring too well with the electorate and was facing a possible defeat for reelection in '64. His trip to Texas was to try to increase his image and poll numbers.

His win in '60 was razor thin, helped in large part, by the election fraud in Chicago perpetrated by Sam Giaconna and mayor Daley. It was by their hands, that Kennedy won Illinois. Texas was also subjected to fraudulent votes by the Johnson machine. So, Kennedy was already on thin ice with the electorate.

The press, so enamored with the evil Kennedy's, much like it was with the current stooge in the White House, they refused to report any real damaging information about the king and queen. When their king was killed, he became god like , in their praise of him.

In the past couple of decades, more and more of the sleazy side of the Kennedy clan has emerged. Pappa Kenedy, a bootlegger, was a staunch anti-Jew and an outskopen supported of Nazi Germany. We all know the Ted, the killer, Kennedy's story - from getting kicked out of Harvard for cheating, to killing the pregnant Mary Jo. The sordid lifestyle of the entire clan is more criminal-like, than pubic servant, or high society.

Whet
2/6/2012, 07:29 AM
That had nothing to do with a liberal press. That's just the way the media was back then. They didn't involve themselves in the personal lives of the President.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it didn't have anything to do with liberal or conservative.

It did have to do with the liberal press. The three networks were run by compliant Democrats. If you look at the news readers of the time: Walter Conkite, Chet Huntley & David Brinkley, or the ABC guy - I forgot his name. They were all flaming libs, no different than today. They did put their spin on stories, but since ther was no alternative media, there was nothing to provide the other side.

cleller
2/6/2012, 08:51 AM
I was too young to remember Kennedy, and have mixed emotions about him and his brother. Can you imagine a president appointing his brother AG now?
On the plus side JFK was smart and had some backbone.
On the minus, he picked LBJ, who he hated and thought was a rube for VP just for his Texas ties; he bungled the Bay of Pigs in spectacular fashion, and pushed a liberal civil rights agenda too hard and fast for its own good.

His skirt chasing doesn't bother me. He was horn dog.

RFK was way too silver spoon liberal, but I'll allow he really believed in his agenda. Their assassinations and the aftermath screwed up politics, and society in the 60s.

Mississippi Sooner
2/6/2012, 10:25 AM
My boss, who is British, is completely flummoxed by how America has venerated the Kennedy family. I thought I'd try to explain it to him one day, but I had to give up. When you step back and try to look at it from the outside, it can be very hard to make sense of it.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/6/2012, 10:44 AM
I am amazedhow a drug running joe kenney gets the admiration of the country and world. That family is effed up as the day is long. Never was a camelot, cant undertnd that generations love for that whole family.

hawaii 5-0
2/6/2012, 10:48 AM
This thread is just a lame effort to legitimize Newt's whoring.

Nothing here.

5-0

sappstuf
2/6/2012, 10:54 AM
At the time he was killed, Kennedy was not faring too well with the electorate and was facing a possible defeat for reelection in '64. His trip to Texas was to try to increase his image and poll numbers.

His win in '60 was razor thin, helped in large part, by the election fraud in Chicago perpetrated by Sam Giaconna and mayor Daley. It was by their hands, that Kennedy won Illinois. Texas was also subjected to fraudulent votes by the Johnson machine. So, Kennedy was already on thin ice with the electorate.

The press, so enamored with the evil Kennedy's, much like it was with the current stooge in the White House, they refused to report any real damaging information about the king and queen. When their king was killed, he became god like , in their praise of him.

In the past couple of decades, more and more of the sleazy side of the Kennedy clan has emerged. Pappa Kenedy, a bootlegger, was a staunch anti-Jew and an outskopen supported of Nazi Germany. We all know the Ted, the killer, Kennedy's story - from getting kicked out of Harvard for cheating, to killing the pregnant Mary Jo. The sordid lifestyle of the entire clan is more criminal-like, than pubic servant, or high society.

Successful trip.

XingTheRubicon
2/6/2012, 11:01 AM
When your PT boat gets rammed by a Japanese destroyer and you load up a make-shift raft for the wounded and paddle 4 miles to land,...you can pretty much do what ever the **** you want from that point as far as I'm concerned.

I don't agree with a lot of his agenda or his whore'n around, but even a blind man could see that JFK is 10 times the man that Romney or Newt is...and Obama's not even worthy of shining JFK's shoes.

KantoSooner
2/6/2012, 11:38 AM
Had he not been shot, JFK would be remembered today as the president between Eisenhower and Goldwater who later went back to the Senate and left under a cloud related to diddling interns. Following a public affair with Barbara Walters that caused the long-suffering Jackie to have their marriage 'annulled', he would have ended his days as a pathetic wretch, addicted to pain killers and an alcoholic, chasing nurses and babbling in dementia at a locked family estate in Florida.

jkjsooner
2/6/2012, 02:15 PM
And you know this how?

Because it's been stated over and over again by historians and older people in the media. It goes back almost to the founding of our country. Plenty of Presidents had personal issues that were not discussed by the media.

C&CDean
2/6/2012, 03:03 PM
When your PT boat gets rammed by a Japanese destroyer and you load up a make-shift raft for the wounded and paddle 4 miles to land,...you can pretty much do what ever the **** you want from that point as far as I'm concerned.

I don't agree with a lot of his agenda or his whore'n around, but even a blind man could see that JFK is 10 times the man that Romney or Newt is...and Obama's not even worthy of shining JFK's shoes.

Whaaa? This belongs in the racist thread.

C&CDean
2/6/2012, 03:04 PM
Had he not been shot, JFK would be remembered today as the president between Eisenhower and Goldwater who later went back to the Senate and left under a cloud related to diddling interns. Following a public affair with Barbara Walters that caused the long-suffering Jackie to have their marriage 'annulled', he would have ended his days as a pathetic wretch, addicted to pain killers and an alcoholic, chasing nurses and babbling in dementia at a locked family estate in Florida.

This.

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2012, 03:18 PM
The words, "President Goldwater" make me really really really happy in my most special of places.

KantoSooner
2/6/2012, 03:48 PM
The words, "President Goldwater" make me really really really happy in my most special of places.

Yep, you and I will have to get together to mourn the fact that Henry Cabot Lodge never got the nod, either.
Bet we could anesthetize an entire room of 30 somethings.

That Estes Kefauver had some pretty good ideas, too. (not really, I just really, really like the name 'Estes Kefauver' and try to say or type it as often as possible.)

SoonerAtKU
2/6/2012, 05:05 PM
I am amazedhow a drug running joe kenney gets the admiration of the country and world. That family is effed up as the day is long. Never was a camelot, cant undertnd that generations love for that whole family.

Also amazing is the sheer number of Nazi sympathizers who get a free pass from history just by virtue of being wealthier than hell.

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2012, 05:34 PM
Also amazing is the sheer number of Nazi sympathizers who get a free pass from history just by virtue of being wealthier than hell.

I'm more amazed at how many communist sympathizers got a free pass then and continue to do so today.

C&CDean
2/6/2012, 06:51 PM
I'm more amazed that some of you mother****ers prove every day that brainless folks can still be capable of typing on a keyboard.

SicEmBaylor
2/6/2012, 07:51 PM
I'm more amazed that some of you mother****ers prove every day that brainless folks can still be capable of typing on a keyboard.

Exactly! Did all of you people hear what Dean just said about you? It's the truth!

REDREX
2/6/2012, 08:21 PM
JFK cut taxes,tough on the commies and tried to kill Castro----He does not sound much like the Dems of today

SoonerPride
2/6/2012, 08:23 PM
JFK cut taxes,tough on the commies and tried to kill Castro----He does not sound much like the Dems of today

Obama lowered taxes on the middle class, killed Osama bin Laden, and has been tough on dictators from Libya to Syria.

Sounds like you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

REDREX
2/6/2012, 08:28 PM
Barack will never be mistaken for Rambo---- ----JFK cut taxes to help the economy, Barack did it to buy votes----And what income tax did Barack cut? or did he leave the cuts in place?

SoonerPride
2/6/2012, 08:37 PM
Barack will never be mistaken for Rambo---- ----JFK cut taxes to help the economy, Barack did it to buy votes----And what income tax did Barack cut? or did he leave the cuts in place?

Thank you for proving my point. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

REDREX
2/6/2012, 08:42 PM
Thank you for proving my point. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.---You are cluless--Is Barack going to extend the current tax rate or is he going to let them expire? Barack is a disaster for the economy going forward.----Looking forward to the $20 Trillion debt ?----And that does not even count the $40 trillion in unfunded future liabilities for Medicare and SS

SoonerPride
2/6/2012, 09:08 PM
---You are cluless--Is Barack going to extend the current tax rate or is he going to let them expire? Barack is a disaster for the economy going forward.----Looking forward to the $20 Trillion debt ?----And that does not even count the $40 trillion in unfunded future liabilities for Medicare and SS

Are you still confused about the Bush tax cuts for the super wealthy? I'm talking about the middle class tax cuts that Obama fought for and got passed. And recently got passed on a temporary extension because the Republicans refuse to help the middle class past the end of February. We'll see how much the Republicans like tax cuts and if they extend them for the rest of 2012.

And I'm sorry, sir, did you call me clueless? Oh really.

How any Republican can, with a straight face, cast aspersions on a Democratic president for their handling of the economy is a farce of the highest order. If you are an investor, you clearly would know that a Democratic president will yield a far better rate of return.

History lesson #1: The stock market 20th century though 2008...
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/14/opinion/14opchart.full.jpg

Sistory lesson #2: stock market Bush v Obama
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Zh1bveXc8rA/S8cW4-njIRI/AAAAAAAABGo/A0Z7DWoJQfk/s1600/Clipboard01.bmp

History lesson #3: Job growth under the "disaster" Obama vs the truly disastrous Bush.

http://reflectionsofarationalrepublican.files.wordpress.c om/2012/02/liberal-total-private-jobs-worldview-january-2012-data.jpg


Class dismissed.

olevetonahill
2/6/2012, 09:17 PM
Well aint you cute with all yer little charts and graphs and ****

SoonerPride
2/6/2012, 09:18 PM
Well aint you cute with all yer little charts and graphs and ****

John Adams said
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

olevetonahill
2/6/2012, 09:50 PM
2583

cleller
2/6/2012, 10:03 PM
So now Obama is the one who cut taxes? And since he did it, its a good thing?

This is nutzoid. All we hear is how taxes should be raised, the tax cuts only help the weathly, etc. Now its Obama that cut taxes.

What's next? Obama sucked the cholesterol out of our arteries?

Obama must really hate the poor, to cut taxes at this desperate time in history. I have to go work on the graph showing how Obama increased the absorbency of toilet paper.

sappstuf
2/6/2012, 10:31 PM
So now Obama is the one who cut taxes? And since he did it, its a good thing?

This is nutzoid. All we hear is how taxes should be raised, the tax cuts only help the weathly, etc. Now its Obama that cut taxes.

What's next? Obama sucked the cholesterol out of our arteries?

Obama must really hate the poor, to cut taxes at this desperate time in history. I have to go work on the graph showing how Obama increased the absorbency of toilet paper.

Bush cut the taxes which was bad.. Obama extended those same tax cuts which was good.

REDREX
2/6/2012, 10:37 PM
All of the Bush tax cuts were extended not just the middle class-----Please show me a chart that shows how we will tax ourselves out of debt-----I am guessing you don't pay a great deal of income tax

cleller
2/6/2012, 10:58 PM
Bush cut the taxes which was bad.. Obama extended those same tax cuts which was good.

Yes, Obama has been a big disappointment. I had hoped he would bring about a change in the way government dealt with the populace. He's yet another big money democrat with a lily white, Goldman Sachs cabinet full of millionaires. He's just a Harvard man with no regard or empathy for the working class.

TheHumanAlphabet
2/6/2012, 11:13 PM
Thank you for proving my point. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

SP, O'Bammy never has cut the tax RATE, he postponed an amount on the withholding. I do not believe that the actual tax rate was lowered. Kennedy actually lowered the tax rate.

hawaii 5-0
2/6/2012, 11:29 PM
I can understand ragging on Obama but those of you who decide to badmouth an American war hero are disgusting to me and should be ashamed of yourselves.

Truly un-American sentiments being displayed here by a number of pu$$ys.

5-0

SicEmBaylor
2/7/2012, 12:18 AM
I can understand ragging on Obama but those of you who decide to badmouth an American war hero are disgusting to me and should be ashamed of yourselves.

Truly un-American sentiments being displayed here by a number of pu$$ys.

5-0

McGovern was a war hero as well, but he was still a piece of ****. McCain is also a war hero and an equal piece of ****.

The Kennedy brothers became regressively worse as they get younger. Joe Jr>JFK>RFK>EMK

SanJoaquinSooner
2/7/2012, 01:08 AM
McGovern was a war hero as well, but he still lost the election to a piece of shít.

FIFY

SicEmBaylor
2/7/2012, 01:33 AM
FIFY
That is also true.

cleller
2/7/2012, 09:09 AM
I have to admit, I don't think much of the Kennedy's, but cannot bring myself to badmouth Joe Jr, who died in WWII, or JFK. Ted, have at it, he deserves it, as well as Papa Joe.
Here's and interesting piece of Joe Sr. An obvious hatchet job, but its probably mostly true, which is astounding:

http://redroom.com/member/steven-robert-travers/blog/joe-kennedy-worst-person-in-us-history

SoonerAtKU
2/7/2012, 09:41 AM
Joe Jr>JFK>RFK>EMK

I do also find that it's fascinating that you list them in order of death. It's further proof that if you die before you get around to doing the REALLY reprehensible stuff, people will feel much better about the short life you had. I'm sure there's deeper commentary in there on America's yearning for moral purity, etc. but it's early.

hawaii 5-0
2/7/2012, 10:29 AM
Here's the deal...........

The deaths of a close friend, a friend, and an acquaintance all in the past ten days has left me confused and pretty bitter toward the World in general right now. The vitriol coming from me isn't what I want.

I'll take a little time off from posting and probably limit myself to some vBetting for awhile.

Till I git my haid right.


5-0

Bourbon St Sooner
2/7/2012, 11:58 AM
Obama lowered taxes on the middle class, killed Osama bin Laden, and has been tough on dictators from Libya to Syria.

Sounds like you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Libya? really? The war that France dragged us into because that French skirt chaser shot off his mouth but couldn't back it up with actual military capability. It's pretty sad when France is goading you into military conflict. That hasn't happened since Clinton was President.

And what has he done in Syria exactly.