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SoonerTerry

1/26/2012, 03:45 PM

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html
You guys are gonna love this....

badger

1/26/2012, 04:21 PM

Cute :)

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

XingTheRubicon

1/26/2012, 04:28 PM

Actual racism from the '60s wants to kick 2011 "racism" square in the nuts.

cleller

1/26/2012, 04:58 PM

Suppose you said "Higher IQs associated with less racism". That sounds logical, and not sensational.

Then you said "Liberal views associated with less racism" -also to be expected.

ictsooner7

1/26/2012, 05:56 PM

I cannot stop LAUGHING. Like this is something we don't already know. My favorite line-

Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies,

47straight

1/26/2012, 09:48 PM

ictsooner7

1/26/2012, 09:56 PM

Does the article say anything about whether its intelligent or unintelligent people that tend to gravitate to posting articles by authors who claim that Sarah Palin didn't actually give birth to her son Trig? That it was some coverup for a pregnant daughter or something even weirder?

Thats all you got isn't it? I don't have the time and don't really care enough about you to go back and check and see if you have ever posted anything by someone who thinks Obama was born in Kenya, or he isn't a christian or he is a socialist.

SicEmBaylor

1/26/2012, 09:57 PM

I should probably be insulted.

LiveLaughLove

1/26/2012, 10:08 PM

Would this be talking about the prejudice of thinking that racism is only a socially conservative view? Ya know, those low IQ types.

They haven't ever read Michelle Malkins emails have they. Those liberal love everybodies sure did hurl some racial epithets her way.

Or, Allen West, he has gotten some very interesting stuff from liberals about his skin color and having the nerve to get off the plantation (meaning not being a flaming liberal).

Who are the authors of this study? Whats their politics? I'm going to hazard a guess and say they lean liberal. Whaddya think?

I did a study and found that 100% of people that disagree with me are wrong and therefor have amoeba brains. Think that means much?

Turd_Ferguson

1/26/2012, 10:12 PM

I don't want anybody to know that I'm nuttier than squirrel ****, so I'm posting under this trollNice.

bigfatjerk

1/26/2012, 10:16 PM

If anything the current policies which are liberal or progressive based are racist. They promote a drug war which puts minorities in jail at a ridiculous rate. They promote a welfare and warfare state that does more harm to minorities than to rich people that are mostly white. They've promoted affirmative action which is hiring because of race instead of qualifications.

Sooner5030

1/26/2012, 10:17 PM

I may disagree with social conservatives but I would never make the point that their opinions are based on ignorance. The "study" didn't even do that. It allowed the author to make shiaty inferences based on pre-experimental (non-rigorous) sampling techniques. That means while you can infer one variable changed over an observation period was linked with measured outcomes you cannot rule out other external factors that may have caused the change.

Besides, by post #5 I was provided a reminder that plenty of data exist on this board to refute these findings.

47straight

1/26/2012, 10:57 PM

Does the article say anything about whether its intelligent or unintelligent people that scream like a banshee when you point out they just posted articles by conspiracy theory nutjobs?

Caboose

1/26/2012, 11:06 PM

Has there been a study done that links low IQ to believing that newborn infants can survive on their own? Just curious.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 08:01 AM

and the studies point just keeps getting proved over and over and over....................

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 08:08 AM

Has there been a study done that links low IQ to believing that newborn infants can survive on their own? Just curious.

This is what I was talking about you moron. I know it takes some thought and some thinking on your part, so let me try to explain yet again to your low IQ, in the womb it is dependent on the MOTHER to breath, after the cord is cut a newborn breaths on it own. Before it is a part of the mother, after birth it is a seperate human being. GET IT, or is your IQ just too low to understand?

Changes in the newborn at birth

Changes in the newborn at birth are a number of changes that an infant's body undergoes to allow it to survive outside the womb and adapt to life in a new environment.

Information

LUNGS AND CIRCULATORY SYSTEM

While the fetus is in the womb, it "breathes" by exchanging oxygen and carbon dioxide through the mother's circulation via the placenta. Most of the blood does not go through the developing baby's lungs. Instead, it travels through the heart and flows throughout the baby's body.

At birth, the baby's lungs are filled with amniotic fluid and are not inflated. The baby takes the first breath within about 10 seconds after delivery. It sounds like a gasp, as the newborn's central nervous system reacts to the sudden change in temperature and environment.

Once the umbilical cord is cut and the baby takes the first breath, a number of changes occur in the infant's lungs and circulatory system:
•Increased oxygen in the lungs causes a decrease in blood flow resistance to the lungs.
•Blood flow resistance of the baby's blood vessels also increases.
•Amniotic fluid drains or is absorbed from the respiratory system.
•The lungs inflate and begin working on their own, moving oxygen into the bloodstream and removing carbon dioxide by breathing out (exhalation).

TEMPERATURE REGULATION

A developing baby produces about twice as much heat as an adult. That heat dissipates as blood flows into the mother's circulation via the placenta and is cooled. A small amount of heat is removed through the developing baby's skin, the amniotic fluid, and the uterine wall.

After delivery, the newborn begins to lose heat. Receptors on the baby's skin send messages to the brain that the baby's body is cold. The baby's body then creates heat by shivering and by burning stores of brown fat, a type of fat found only in fetuses and newborns.

LIVER

In the fetus, the liver acts as a storage site for sugar (glycogen) and iron. When the baby is born, the liver has various functions:
•It produces substances that help the blood to clot.
•It begins breaking down waste products such as excess red blood cells.
•It produces a protein that helps break down bilirubin. If the baby's body does not properly break down bilirubin, it can lead to newborn jaundice.

GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT

A baby's gastrointestinal system doesn't fully function until after birth.

In late pregnancy, the fetus produces a tarry green or black waste substance called meconium. Meconium is the medical term for the newborn infant's first stools. Meconium is composed of amniotic fluid, mucus, lanugo (the fine hair that covers the baby's body), bile, and cells that have been shed from the skin and intestinal tract. In some cases, the baby passes stools (meconium) while still inside the uterus.

URINARY SYSTEM

The developing baby's kidneys begin producing urine by 9 - 12 weeks into the pregnancy. After birth, the newborn will usually urinate within the first 24 hours of life. The kidneys become able to maintain the body's fluid and electrolyte balance.

The rate at which blood filters through the kidneys (glomerular filtration rate) increases sharply after birth and in the first 2 weeks of life. Still, it takes some time for the kidneys to get up to speed. Newborns have less ability to remove excess salt (sodium) or to concentrate or dilute the urine compared to adults. This ability improves over time.

IMMUNE SYSTEM

The immune system begins to develop in the fetus, and continues to mature through the child's first few years of life. The womb is a relatively sterile environment. But as soon as the baby is born, he or she is exposed to a variety of bacteria and other potential disease-causing substances. Although newborn infants are more vulnerable to infection, their immune system can respond to infectious organisms.

Newborns do carry some antibodies from their mother, which provide protection against infection. Breastfeeding also helps improve a newborn's immunity.

SKIN

Newborn skin will vary depending on the length of the pregnancy. Premature infants have thin, transparent skin. The skin of a full-term infant is thicker.

Characteristics of newborn skin:
•A fine hair called lanugo might cover the newborn's skin, especially in preterm babies. The hair should disappear within the first few weeks of the baby's life.
•A thick, waxy substance called vernix may cover the skin. This substance protects the fetus while floating in amniotic fluid in the womb. Vernix should wash off during the baby's first bath.
•The skin might be cracking, peeling, or blotchy, but this should improve over time.

Caboose

1/27/2012, 08:14 AM

This is what I was talking about you moron. I know it takes some thought and some thinking on your part, so let me try to explain yet again to your low IQ, in the womb it is dependent on the MOTHER to breath, after the cord is cut a newborn breaths on it own. Before it is a part of the mother, after birth it is a seperate human being. GET IT, or is your IQ just too low to understand?

Changes in the newborn at birth

Changes in the newborn at birth are a number of changes that an infant's body undergoes to allow it to survive outside the womb and adapt to life in a new environment.

Information

LUNGS AND CIRCULATORY SYSTEM

While the fetus is in the womb, it "breathes" by exchanging oxygen and carbon dioxide through the mother's circulation via the placenta. Most of the blood does not go through the developing baby's lungs. Instead, it travels through the heart and flows throughout the baby's body.

At birth, the baby's lungs are filled with amniotic fluid and are not inflated. The baby takes the first breath within about 10 seconds after delivery. It sounds like a gasp, as the newborn's central nervous system reacts to the sudden change in temperature and environment.

Once the umbilical cord is cut and the baby takes the first breath, a number of changes occur in the infant's lungs and circulatory system:
•Increased oxygen in the lungs causes a decrease in blood flow resistance to the lungs.
•Blood flow resistance of the baby's blood vessels also increases.
•Amniotic fluid drains or is absorbed from the respiratory system.
•The lungs inflate and begin working on their own, moving oxygen into the bloodstream and removing carbon dioxide by breathing out (exhalation).

TEMPERATURE REGULATION

A developing baby produces about twice as much heat as an adult. That heat dissipates as blood flows into the mother's circulation via the placenta and is cooled. A small amount of heat is removed through the developing baby's skin, the amniotic fluid, and the uterine wall.

After delivery, the newborn begins to lose heat. Receptors on the baby's skin send messages to the brain that the baby's body is cold. The baby's body then creates heat by shivering and by burning stores of brown fat, a type of fat found only in fetuses and newborns.

LIVER

In the fetus, the liver acts as a storage site for sugar (glycogen) and iron. When the baby is born, the liver has various functions:
•It produces substances that help the blood to clot.
•It begins breaking down waste products such as excess red blood cells.
•It produces a protein that helps break down bilirubin. If the baby's body does not properly break down bilirubin, it can lead to newborn jaundice.

GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT

A baby's gastrointestinal system doesn't fully function until after birth.

In late pregnancy, the fetus produces a tarry green or black waste substance called meconium. Meconium is the medical term for the newborn infant's first stools. Meconium is composed of amniotic fluid, mucus, lanugo (the fine hair that covers the baby's body), bile, and cells that have been shed from the skin and intestinal tract. In some cases, the baby passes stools (meconium) while still inside the uterus.

URINARY SYSTEM

The developing baby's kidneys begin producing urine by 9 - 12 weeks into the pregnancy. After birth, the newborn will usually urinate within the first 24 hours of life. The kidneys become able to maintain the body's fluid and electrolyte balance.

The rate at which blood filters through the kidneys (glomerular filtration rate) increases sharply after birth and in the first 2 weeks of life. Still, it takes some time for the kidneys to get up to speed. Newborns have less ability to remove excess salt (sodium) or to concentrate or dilute the urine compared to adults. This ability improves over time.

IMMUNE SYSTEM

The immune system begins to develop in the fetus, and continues to mature through the child's first few years of life. The womb is a relatively sterile environment. But as soon as the baby is born, he or she is exposed to a variety of bacteria and other potential disease-causing substances. Although newborn infants are more vulnerable to infection, their immune system can respond to infectious organisms.

Newborns do carry some antibodies from their mother, which provide protection against infection. Breastfeeding also helps improve a newborn's immunity.

SKIN

Newborn skin will vary depending on the length of the pregnancy. Premature infants have thin, transparent skin. The skin of a full-term infant is thicker.

Characteristics of newborn skin:
•A fine hair called lanugo might cover the newborn's skin, especially in preterm babies. The hair should disappear within the first few weeks of the baby's life.
•A thick, waxy substance called vernix may cover the skin. This substance protects the fetus while floating in amniotic fluid in the womb. Vernix should wash off during the baby's first bath.
•The skin might be cracking, peeling, or blotchy, but this should improve over time.

So to be clear, you are now denouncing your earlier stated belief that newborn babies can survive on their own? Or are you still saying they can?

Midtowner

1/27/2012, 08:31 AM

So to be clear, you are now denouncing your earlier stated belief that newborn babies can survive on their own? Or are you still saying they can?

Are you guys arguing over when a fetus is viable outside of the womb? Why?

The odds of survival are pretty well established. 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks can survive, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive.

/thread?

East Coast Bias

1/27/2012, 09:22 AM

And I had such high hopes for this thread...........

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 09:27 AM

Are you guys arguing over when a fetus is viable outside of the womb? Why?

The odds of survival are pretty well established. 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks can survive, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive.

/thread?

Because it's all they have...............

Back to the thread, Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies,

I just wish I had more room on my signature.

cleller

1/27/2012, 09:57 AM

So the line getting all the attention is the claim that low intelligence adults gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies. What does that really say? A conservative ideology would naturally be more basic, resistant to change, and streamlined than a liberal one.

A person of a lower IQ would be expected to more resistant to change. Its another case of someone tailoring their study to produce a desired outcome.

Then, did you notice that where the line mentioned "socially conservative ideologies" it was hyperlinked to another story? That story dealt with the fact that conservative people are more likely than liberals to respond negatively to certain images. A quote from the story:

"Five of the images had been rated as "disgusting" by an independent group, and included: a man in the process of eating a mouthful of writhing worms; a horribly emaciated but alive body; human excrement floating in a toilet; a bloody wound; and an open sore with maggots in it.
The participants also answered questions to gauge their political views. The results showed, as predicted, that those who indicated conservative political views responded to the icky pictures with much more intense disgust than did liberals." (end)

So this is an example of their methodology. "Icky pictures".

badger

1/27/2012, 10:18 AM

"Five of the images had been rated as "disgusting" by an independent group, and included: a man in the process of eating a mouthful of writhing worms; a horribly emaciated but alive body; human excrement floating in a toilet; a bloody wound; and an open sore with maggots in it.
The participants also answered questions to gauge their political views. The results showed, as predicted, that those who indicated conservative political views responded to the icky pictures with much more intense disgust than did liberals." (end)

So this is an example of their methodology. "Icky pictures".

Did liberals call those images "science experiments?" :P

47straight

1/27/2012, 02:45 PM

Does the article say anything about whether its intelligent or unintelligent people that automatically call anyone who disagrees with them a "racist" ?

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 04:07 PM

Does the article say anything about whether its intelligent or unintelligent people that automatically call anyone who disagrees with them a "racist" ?

Throwing a banana at the tv during the state of the union is not racist? You confuse me with a conservitive.

Liberals are not the ones who run around calling anyone with a great education, OH sorry that was just DEMOCRATS with a great education, an ELITIST. We are not the ones who embrace ignorance, see sarah palin, dubya.

LiveLaughLove

1/27/2012, 04:18 PM

Throwing a banana at the tv during the state of the union is not racist? You confuse me with a conservitive.

Liberals are not the ones who run around calling anyone with a great education, OH sorry that was just DEMOCRATS with a great education, an ELITIST. We are not the ones who embrace ignorance, see sarah palin, dubya.

Elitism has nothing to do with great education. It has to do with one person thinking themselves superior and know what is best for everyone else, simply by virtue of them being them.

See the Weather Underground (you know, Obamas buddy Bill Ayers the bomber) and their plans for ruling the USA. That's elitist and worse.

See your local '60s hippie turned college professor turned indoctrinator instead of educator. That's elitist and worse.

Indeed, great and education from today's liberal collegiate institutions is an oxymoron.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 04:39 PM

Elitism has nothing to do with great education. It has to do with one person thinking themselves superior and know what is best for everyone else, simply by virtue of them being them.

See the Weather Underground (you know, Obamas buddy Bill Ayers the bomber) and their plans for ruling the USA. That's elitist and worse.

See your local '60s hippie turned college professor turned indoctrinator instead of educator. That's elitist and worse.

Indeed, great and education from today's liberal collegiate institutions is an oxymoron.

Keep spinning that............................ yet another claim taken right out of rightwingnut blog talking points

buddy? really? kinda like bush is buddies with gaddafi? HUH?

Leave it up to morons like rickie to make the point for me....................

Obama wants everyone's kids to go to college so they can be brainwashed, Rick Santorum says

by Meteor Blades .
Rick Santorum thinks President Obama had indoctrination in mind when he said in his State of the Union address Tuesday that higher education ought to be available to every American family.
The GOP presidential candidate, who is running third in the Florida polls ahead of next Tuesday's primary in that state, told an audience there Wednesday that the real purpose behind Obama's higher-education push is "undermining the very principles of our country every single day by indoctrinating kids with left-wing ideology. ... The indoctrination that occurs in American universities is one of the keys to the left's holding and maintaining power in America." To applause, he said people should stop contributing to these universities and colleges.In a campaign of stupidity, this will most surely rank as one of the most stupid stupidities of 2012. The candidate's opposition to higher education is nothing new. He's been hammering on that theme for quite a while. Never mind that American men who don't have a college education are making 47 percent less in inflation-adjusted dollars as they did in 1969.

At the Florida venue, Santorum made the additional claim that "62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it." Is this one of the 81.5 percent of statistics that are made up on the spot? Because, as on so much else, Santorum is dead wrong on this.

According to a 2007 study Losing My Religion: The Social Sources of Religious Decline in Early Adulthood by Jeremy E. Uecker at the University of Texas at Austin:

"...those who never attended college had the highest rates of decline in church attendance (76.2 percent), diminished importance placed on religion (23.7 percent), and disaffiliation from religion (20.3 percent). Students who earned at least a bachelor's degree, on the other hand, had the lowest rates on those three factors with 59.2 percent indicating decreased church attendance and 15 percent placing less importance on religion and disaffiliating from religion."
"Overall, the overwhelming majority (82 percent) of college students maintain at least a static level of personal religiosity in early adulthood and 86 percent retain their religious affiliation."

Of course, that's just a peer-reviewed study from one of them pointy-headed intellectual types at a secular university. There's some pointy-headedness occurring, to be sure.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 04:52 PM

okie52

1/27/2012, 05:04 PM

ICT-what about this guy:

http://youtu.be/bs23CjIWMgA

LiveLaughLove

1/27/2012, 05:05 PM

Tell me again its about wanting to run people lives.................

OK.

It definitely isn't about shrinking government and liberating it's citizens to do as the freely choose.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 05:33 PM

ICT-what about this guy:

http://youtu.be/bs23CjIWMgA

HEY...OKIE52 what about his guy:

George W. Bush, the Great Pronunciator

50. "I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." --at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

49. "We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." --Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

48. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

47. "I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." --Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001

46. "Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." --Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip)

45. "I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." --at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001 (Listen to audio clip)

44. "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

43. "The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007

42. "I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." --as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

41. "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." --discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson

40. 3. "I think I was unprepared for war." –on the biggest regret of his presidency, ABC News interview, Dec. 1, 2008

39. "I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." --talking to key Republicans about Iraq, as quoted by Bob Woodward

38. "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." --presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video clip)

37. "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." --Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

36. "Do you have blacks, too?" --to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

35. "This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." --as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002

34. "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." --on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina

33. "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." --Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

32. "I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake." --on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006

31. "They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

30. "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." --Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001

29. "This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base." --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner

28. "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." --LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

27. "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right." --Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001

26. "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

25. "People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

24. "I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it...I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet...I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't -- you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." --after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

23. "You forgot Poland." --to Sen. John Kerry during the first presidential debate, after Kerry failed to mention Poland's contributions to the Iraq war coalition, Miami, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004

22. "Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." --in parting words to world leaders at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as those present looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008

21. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." --State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false

20. "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

19. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

18. "So what?" –President Bush, responding to a an ABC News correspondent who pointed out that Al Qaeda wasn't a threat in Iraq until after the U.S. invaded, Dec. 14, 2008

17. "Can we win? I don't think you can win it." --after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004

16. "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." --Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002

15. "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." --to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004

14. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." --speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003

13. "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories ... And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." --Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003

12. "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" --joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004 (Read more)

11. "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008

10. "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" --Florence, South Carolina, Jan. 11, 2000

9. "As yesterday's positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured." --on the No Child Left Behind Act, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2007 (Watch video clip)

8. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." --Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

7. "I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." --Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006 (Read more; listen to audio clip; watch video clip)

6. "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again." --Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip)

5. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." --Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip)

4. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." --Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip)

3. "You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

2. "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." --to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his handling of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Listen to audio clip; watch video clip)

1. "My answer is bring them on." --on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

okie52

1/27/2012, 05:44 PM

Not bad. Good for a few laughs.

Liberals are not the ones who run around calling anyone with a great education, OH sorry that was just DEMOCRATS with a great education, an ELITIST. We are not the ones who embrace ignorance, see sarah palin, dubya.

So are you embracing Hank Johnson?

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 05:56 PM

Not bad. Good for a few laughs.

So are you embracing Hank Johnson?

That is an incredibly stupid question, how do you get to so are you embracing Hank Johnson? I have nothing to do with him, what connection do we have besides being democrats? Have you ever voted for Dubya? YES TWICE. What does Johnson have to do with me? I didn't vote for him, the guy is an idiot. Now go say that I "pal" around with him. You people just keep proving the point of the study.

47straight

1/27/2012, 06:04 PM

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 06:43 PM

It's the very definition of ignorance to blindly pump articles by conspiracy theorists, and then to scream like a banshee when other people civilly point it out.

You're like a scratch in a record, over and over and over and over and over. YAWN........

KENYA!!!!!!!! HELLO!!!!!!!!

cleller

1/27/2012, 06:44 PM

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 06:55 PM

The punch line is that the "study" with people staring at the un-flushed turds was likely fund by your tax dollars after it was thought up by our liberal friends.

Have you noticed that the conservatives on the board, true to form, are keeping their remarks concise, and on point? The liberals - incoherent prattle.

What a LAUGH, thank you for again proving my point.

Go back through the thread and try again. This is what ignorance we are talking about. Bringing up past thread and the weather underground.

LiveLaughLove

1/27/2012, 07:26 PM

The obligatory video of stupid social conservatives.

http://youtu.be/_RIvkd7tEl8

cccasooner2

1/27/2012, 08:05 PM

Throwing a banana at the tv during the state of the union is not racist?

Why is that racist? Personally, I love bananas and I hope Sicem retrieved it and did not let it go to waste.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 08:14 PM

Why is that racist? Personally, I love bananas and I hope Sicem retrieved it and did not let it go to waste.

AGAIN...............thank you for making the point of the thread, only a person of low IQ would think that throwing a banana at a black man on TV is not racist, you are only fooling and convincing yourself.

cccasooner2

1/27/2012, 08:32 PM

AGAIN...............thank you for making the point of the thread, only a person of low IQ would think that throwing a banana at a black man on TV is not racist, you are only fooling and convincing yourself.

Sorry Mr. High IQ, may I ask then, what is the association with a banana and a black man? I don't remember that question being on an IQ test before.

ictsooner7

1/27/2012, 08:46 PM

Sorry Mr. High IQ, may I ask then, what is the association with a banana and a black man? I don't remember that question being on an IQ test before.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LAUGHING MY @SS OFF. BANANA - BLACK MAN...............STOP IT STOP IT YOU'RE KILLING ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

cleller

1/27/2012, 10:30 PM

XingTheRubicon

1/28/2012, 10:55 AM

^^^^ That is the most definitively accurate post in the history of the internet.

TheHumanAlphabet

1/28/2012, 11:20 AM

I like how the study came out of Canada.

olevetonahill

1/28/2012, 11:27 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LAUGHING MY @SS OFF. BANANA - BLACK MAN...............STOP IT STOP IT YOU'RE KILLING ME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJust a few questions fer ya.
You seem to like Posting GWs misspeaks how about Obamas Goin to ALL 57 states?

Now have you made anymore 1000 yd. shots? Can ya still get some rocket launchers and Hand grenades/

ictsooner7

1/28/2012, 12:45 PM

Liberals are a purely selfish group. In the 1930s-1950s they were enamored with communism. Anything at odds with what they had actually lived- in order to set themselves apart and tout their intellect. Communism was a big success.

Now its multi-culturalism. They've exploited minorities in order to broaden their voter base. From the elitist Kennedys, the inane bigot LBJ, to the smarmy Bill Clinton, they've essentially bought the votes of a class they feel is not their equal. They don't believe minorities have the intellect or drive to succeed on their own, so they patronize them with welfare and affirmative action. They couldn't care less that dependence on the government would weaken their ability to prosper, and erode the fabric of their families. The entitlements will keep them coming back for more.

Its easy to manipulate and harm people you look down on. You can always claim you are trying to help them. You may even be naive and sheltered enough to believe it. Exploitation is racism at its zenith.

Well, I guess I should say MOST liberals are this way. Some truly believe in what they're doing, despite what their eyes tell them.

Here we go again, the ignorant right projecting their own mindset upon others. Liberal were enamored with communism? Some where just like some conservatives were enamored with John Birch society.

Notice how the democrats have "bought" votes with welfare and affirmative action. Liberals do not think they are equal? NO, that would be racist conservatives who fled the democratic party in '68 to vote for nixon with his southern strategy. Reagen did same thing spouting about fictionalized welfare queens with 36 social security cards collecting dozens of checks from various agencies. Example, who is screaming about seeing Obama's grades because he couldn't possibly be smart enough to get into Columbia and Harvard law school on his own merits, it had to have been he was an affirmative action entry. He could have possibly have been smart enough to become the editor of the Harvard law review, it had to have been liberal white guilt that got all of those hard driving type A personalities who would kill their own mother to get ahead in life to vote the first Africa-American as the editor, or some other liberal plot.

Try to remember that a highest percentage group of people on welfare are WHITE. The poverty rate at which A-A's are on welfare is about equal with their poverty rate. Affirmative Action was started to stop race based bias against A-A's, look at the Jim Crow laws in the south and as late as the mid '60's having to force southern colleges into letting A-A's into the STATE financed colleges that their tax dollars paid for. Try to remember that the poster boy for affirmative action is CLARENCE THOMAS, who was let into Yale ONLY because of affirmative action.

It cracks me up to see how conservatives think liberals win elections by buying votes with welfare and fraud, but do not seem to think scaring lower class voters into voting republican with they will take your guns and they hate Jesus.

You should know all about how easy it is to manipulate and harm people you look down on, lets take a look at who the right hates, union members, government workers, liberals, educated people, illegal immigrants, atheists to name a few. Who is OK with the right, anyone who is a conservative, see Newt, serial philander and lobbyist for the hated Fannie and Freddie. Mitt is ok too even though he is the most elite of the elitists. Obama worked his @ss off to get into columbia and harvard. Mitt had his way paved by his ceo daddy, talk about affirmative action.

ictsooner7

1/28/2012, 12:51 PM

It's the very definition of ignorance to blindly pump articles by conspiracy theorists, and then to scream like a banshee when other people civilly point it out.

It's the very definition of ignorance to blindly pump and VOTE a political party that thinks Obama is not a natural born citizen;

Georgia Birther Hearing Proceeds Without Obama, Without Effect

A hearing to determine whether President Barack Obama is eligible to be on the primary ballot in Georgia took place on Thursday, with the defendants, Obama and his legal team, notably absent.

Georgia Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi subpoenaed the president last week after refusing to hear his legal team's challenge to the case, but neither Obama nor his lawyers ever planned on showing up.

Instead, Obama attorney Michael Jablonski wrote a letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, a Republican and the ultimate arbiter on the question of Obama's ballot eligibility, telling him that he expected Kemp to throw out the "baseless, costly and unproductive" case.

Kemp responded, telling Obama's counsel that they would skip the ballot hearing "at your own peril."

The true nature of the "peril" Obama might face, however, began to play out during Thursday's proceeding.

The complaints being presented at the hearing are based off various claims that Obama is either beholden to an 1875 Supreme Court ruling that determined "natural born citizens" were people born in the United States to parents who are both U.S. citizens, or that he is using fraudulent documents to prove his eligibility.

California attorney Orly Taitz, queen bee of the birthers and a proponent of the latter belief, stood before what Jay Bookman of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution described as "100 people ... most of them older white Americans" to argue her plaintiff's case.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Judge Malihi was forced to cut her off during her closing arguments, when she attempted to serve as both lawyer and witness.

In the end, no groundbreaking arguments, testimony or evidence were presented at Thursday's hearing, perhaps a testament to the tired nature of these challenges. Taitz is one of the most seasoned veterans of the birther movement, and the fact that she was even granted a hearing came as her first "victory." She was fined $20,000 last year by a Georgia judge for filing frivolous lawsuits of the same nature.

Even with the decision by Obama's legal team to completely ignore the supposed merits of the case, Bookman writes that Secretary of State Kemp is likely left with only one choice:

At any rate, the final decision is Kemp's. Regardless of what Malihi recommends, Kemp does not want to become the Republican secretary of state who ruled Barack Obama off the ballot in Georgia. Becoming a birther hero would not begin to compensate for the lasting infamy such a step would bring him, especially because such a ruling would be challenged in state or federal court and almost immediately overturned on any number of reasons. Kemp would then look like a fool and put an end to any further political ambitions he might have. I doubt that’s the course he will choose to take.

While Kemp, Malihi and the plaintiffs watched the case unfold, Obama was in Las Vegas, expanding upon an energy blueprint that he had unveiled at his State of the Union address.

cccasooner2

1/28/2012, 01:59 PM

It's the very definition of ignorance to blindly pump and VOTE a political party that thinks Obama is not a natural born citizen;

Georgia Birther Hearing Proceeds Without Obama, Without Effect

...

Exalted one of the high IQ, please explain how wanting to know whether a candidate is legally on a ballot before voting is considered blind.

ictsooner7

1/28/2012, 03:15 PM

Exalted one of the high IQ, please explain how wanting to know whether a candidate is legally on a ballot before voting is considered blind.

Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant

Thank you for again making the whole point of the study. So stupid.

olevetonahill

1/28/2012, 08:48 PM

Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant

Thank you for again making the whole point of the study. So stupid.

So YOU gonna answer?

ictsooner7

1/28/2012, 09:20 PM

So YOU gonna answer?

Explain to us who "just don't get it" how exactly Obama is not eligible to be on the ballot?

Come on show us how stupid you really are.

47straight

1/28/2012, 11:02 PM

It's the very definition of ignorance to blindly pump and VOTE a political party that thinks Obama is not a natural born citizen;

Georgia Birther Hearing Proceeds Without Obama, Without Effect

A hearing to determine whether President Barack Obama is eligible to be on the primary ballot in Georgia took place on Thursday, with the defendants, Obama and his legal team, notably absent.

Georgia Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi subpoenaed the president last week after refusing to hear his legal team's challenge to the case, but neither Obama nor his lawyers ever planned on showing up.

Instead, Obama attorney Michael Jablonski wrote a letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, a Republican and the ultimate arbiter on the question of Obama's ballot eligibility, telling him that he expected Kemp to throw out the "baseless, costly and unproductive" case.

Kemp responded, telling Obama's counsel that they would skip the ballot hearing "at your own peril."

The true nature of the "peril" Obama might face, however, began to play out during Thursday's proceeding.

The complaints being presented at the hearing are based off various claims that Obama is either beholden to an 1875 Supreme Court ruling that determined "natural born citizens" were people born in the United States to parents who are both U.S. citizens, or that he is using fraudulent documents to prove his eligibility.

California attorney Orly Taitz, queen bee of the birthers and a proponent of the latter belief, stood before what Jay Bookman of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution described as "100 people ... most of them older white Americans" to argue her plaintiff's case.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Judge Malihi was forced to cut her off during her closing arguments, when she attempted to serve as both lawyer and witness.

In the end, no groundbreaking arguments, testimony or evidence were presented at Thursday's hearing, perhaps a testament to the tired nature of these challenges. Taitz is one of the most seasoned veterans of the birther movement, and the fact that she was even granted a hearing came as her first "victory." She was fined $20,000 last year by a Georgia judge for filing frivolous lawsuits of the same nature.

Even with the decision by Obama's legal team to completely ignore the supposed merits of the case, Bookman writes that Secretary of State Kemp is likely left with only one choice:

At any rate, the final decision is Kemp's. Regardless of what Malihi recommends, Kemp does not want to become the Republican secretary of state who ruled Barack Obama off the ballot in Georgia. Becoming a birther hero would not begin to compensate for the lasting infamy such a step would bring him, especially because such a ruling would be challenged in state or federal court and almost immediately overturned on any number of reasons. Kemp would then look like a fool and put an end to any further political ambitions he might have. I doubt that’s the course he will choose to take.

While Kemp, Malihi and the plaintiffs watched the case unfold, Obama was in Las Vegas, expanding upon an energy blueprint that he had unveiled at his State of the Union address.

At least they never accused Michelle Obama of not actually having her kids. That's pretty sick. I'd hate to be the kind of ignorant stooge that hung out with that kind of crowd.

ictsooner7

1/28/2012, 11:10 PM

At least they never accused Michelle Obama of not actually having her kids. That's pretty sick. I'd hate to be the kind of ignorant stooge that hung out with that kind of crowd.

I never believed it like a majority of YOUR party did with not born in america. Still can drop it can you, birther.

You see the difference between an ignorant conservative and a smart liberal is when presented with FACTS like she did have him, in palins case, HER WORD, we didn't keep questioning and questioning even in the face of overwhelming evidence. We used our brains and LEARNED. As the article clearly shows you morons don't.

LiveLaughLove

1/29/2012, 12:11 AM

ictsooner7

1/29/2012, 12:54 AM

ictsooner7's thought process...

A conservative states a fact >>>> hurl and insult

A conservative makes a statement >>>>> hurl an insult

A conservative breathes air >>>>> hurl an insult

Pretty much sums it up I think.

Oh yeah, but we are the ignorant stupid ones, and he/she is the enlightened intelligent one.

It's fine when it is a conservitive doing it, but when a liberal does...................different story.

If you want me to stop calling you people stupid, ignorant and morons, stop saying stupid, ignorant and moronic stuff.

Our facts are not made up. I'm still waiting to hear from anyone how Obama is not a citizen.

LiveLaughLove

1/29/2012, 01:22 AM

It's fine when it is a conservitive doing it, but when a liberal does...................different story.

False premise. I didn't say it was fine when anyone does it. Find where I said that exactly. You won't.

If you want me to stop calling you people stupid, ignorant and morons, stop saying stupid, ignorant and moronic stuff.

And of course, you get to be the arbiter of what is stupid, ignorant, and moronic. Right.

Our facts are not made up.

Of course your facts aren't made up. They wouldn't be facts then. However most of what you say is demagoguery and hyperbole that is mostly made up.

I'm still waiting to hear from anyone how Obama is not a citizen.

People wanting someone that wishes to be President producing his birth certificate is a reasonable request. It doesn't necessarily mean they believe he is not a citizen. Some do think that, but some think Bush actually plotted 9/11, and some think Elvis is still alive. In the end, the real question is why didn't Obama produce his birth certificate before he was even allowed to be on a ballot. All nominees should have to do so. I always thought it was a standard requirement.

pphilfran

1/29/2012, 08:06 AM

It's fine when it is a conservitive doing it, but when a liberal does...................different story.

If you want me to stop calling you people stupid, ignorant and morons, stop saying stupid, ignorant and moronic stuff.

Our facts are not made up. I'm still waiting to hear from anyone how Obama is not a citizen.

Speaking of stupid, ignorant, and moronic...

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?165659-hey-obama&p=3445489&highlight=#post3445489

GM pays off its bailout loans

olevetonahill

1/29/2012, 09:32 AM

Explain to us who "just don't get it" how exactly Obama is not eligible to be on the ballot?

Come on show us how stupid you really are.

I never said anything about Obama, I asked you 3 questions and you have failed to answer them .
So i guess if you an I are having a STUPID contest, YOU WIN

ictsooner7

1/29/2012, 09:55 AM

False premise. I didn't say it was fine when anyone does it. Find where I said that exactly. You won't.

And of course, you get to be the arbiter of what is stupid, ignorant, and moronic. Right.

Of course your facts aren't made up. They wouldn't be facts then. However most of what you say is demagoguery and hyperbole that is mostly made up.

People wanting someone that wishes to be President producing his birth certificate is a reasonable request. It doesn't necessarily mean they believe he is not a citizen. Some do think that, but some think Bush actually plotted 9/11, and some think Elvis is still alive. In the end, the real question is why didn't Obama produce his birth certificate before he was even allowed to be on a ballot. All nominees should have to do so. I always thought it was a standard requirement.

Why did they want to see it? There was and is ZERO evidence that he was born anywhere else but Hawaii, but YOUR party keeps trying to find some angle to keep him off the ballot. This what I'm talking about ignorance. There was and is nothing there! You and yours kept insisting that there was some smoking gun, some conspiracy when there was none, it makes people think, you people are just plain stupid. Why should he produce it, no one else ever has had to and to claim "standard requirement" just makes you look stupid. It has never ever happened before.

As for some think Bush actually plotted 9/11, and some think Elvis is still alive, we are not talking about some people, before he released his LONG FORM, it was a majority of conservatives who thought he was not born in the US or was not eligible to be on the ballot, not SOME. Thank you AGAIN for making my point, your comparing Some believe he is not a citizen, but some think Bush actually plotted 9/11, and some think Elvis is still alive just shows how ignorant the right is.

Anyone who thinks Bush actually plotted 9/11 is stupid.

Anyone who thinks Elvis is still alive is stupid.

Anyone who thinks Obama is not a citizen is STUPID.

More Than Half Of Republican Primary Voters Think Obama Wasn’t Born Here

The theory that President Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen (and thus ineligible to be President) has hardly been squelched. According to a new PPP poll, it’s actually a predominant belief within the Republican party.

In the poll, 51% of all likely Republican primary voters erroneously believed that President Obama was born outside of the U.S. Only 28% of those Republican voters said they thought Obama was born in America, while 21% said they were unsure.

Skeptics have been crying shenanigans since long before Obama’s inauguration. Obama, the son of a Kenyan immigrant, has produced his Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth as proof of that he was born in this country. Yet conspiracy theories continue to abound, leading some to doubt Obama is eligible to be president.

While half of all Republicans think Obama is not a natural born citizen, that belief is more commonly held in the party’s most conservative quarters.

The poll asked Republican voters for their opinion of a slate of contenders for the party’s presidential nomination. Voters who expressed a favorable opinion of the more conservative candidates were more likely to say Obama wasn’t born in America.

For example, among the two-thirds of likely Republican primary voters with a favorable opinion of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, 83% said Obama was not born in the U.S. Yet among the minority who viewed Palin negatively, 52% said they thought Obama was born in America.

Birtherism continues to dog Obama two years into his presidency, and he’s getting little help from GOP lawmakers in putting the issue to rest. In a recent interview, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that, while he believes Obama is a citizen, he’s not going to go around telling other people to think the same way.

The PPP poll was conducted February 11-13 among 400 Republican primary voters nationwide. It has a margin of error of 4.9%.

pphilfran

1/29/2012, 10:10 AM

Both sides have their share of uninformed or blind followers...

The left has a high percentage of people (evidently the prez is included in this group) that believe solar and wind will help us become energy independent....

AlboSooner

1/29/2012, 10:19 AM

Why do we have this tendency to give legitimacy any article that claims "a recent study" found XYZ? Personally the words "recent study" and "psychology" automatically turn my bs-dar at full power. First, any study that's recent hasn't had time to be peer-reviewed, thus it's just as good as worthless. Second, psychology is a pseudo-science, that real scientists have no care for. Take most psychology studies, and place them next to other works of science fiction.
Third, any generalizing claim made by a single study, most likely needs to be qualified and re-qualified, which in turn turns out to be a waste of time.

yermom

1/29/2012, 10:24 AM

all i know is that anyone that defends the birthers in a thread questioning conservative intelligence is asking for it.

and from what i can tell, the Trig thing was a joke that started before Bristol was found to be pregnant making fun of the whole birther thing. i could be wrong though.

why won't Glenn Beck respond to the allegations that he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990?

TUSooner

1/29/2012, 10:36 AM

I should probably be insulted.
You're not stupid, just wrong! :wink:

47straight

1/29/2012, 10:49 AM

I never believed it like a majority of YOUR party did with not born in america. Still can drop it can you, birther.

You see the difference between an ignorant conservative and a smart liberal is when presented with FACTS like she did have him, in palins case, HER WORD, we didn't keep questioning and questioning even in the face of overwhelming evidence. We used our brains and LEARNED. As the article clearly shows you morons don't.

My party? Which party is that?

Smart liberal? You mean the kind that screams like a banshee and/or pretends like it didn't happened?

I'm pretty sure that all the conspiracy theories came up after Palin said "I had a kid." So, no.

C&CDean

1/29/2012, 10:52 AM

Where the **** did this ict dildo come from? Sheez.

I'm all for an even playing field, but this rimjob makes tuba/rlimc/cruiser/etc. look tame.

Way too many personal insults. Way too many displays of the very thing he's accusing others of being. Way too many assaults on those of us who really are intelligent - and also happen to be conservative. Way too many assumed racial stereotype cards being thrown about. I do not care for thee, therefore, I will not tolerate thee.

olevetonahill

1/29/2012, 11:11 AM

pphilfran

1/29/2012, 11:42 AM

XingTheRubicon

1/29/2012, 12:04 PM

back to the rifle range for LAS...

olevetonahill

1/29/2012, 12:22 PM

back to the rifle range for LAS...

:O

hawaii 5-0

1/29/2012, 12:43 PM

Just goes to show there's Wackos on both sides.

At least it's entertaining until it gets personal.

Thanks for steppin' in, Dean.

5-0

LiveLaughLove

1/29/2012, 05:01 PM

Why did they want to see it?

I know he is gone (too bad, he was the gift that kept on giving), but this question is relevant.

A requirement for being President is being a naturally born citizen. EVERY candidate should have to produce their birth certificate. EVERY stinking one of them to EVERY stinking state.

Yeah it's a hassle, but small compared to being President. If they can't manage that, how could they manage being President?

I have to produce a freaking birth certificate to get a job, and thats not necessarily a requirement. The real question is why wasn't he required to do so in '08, and why didn't he? The burden of proof is upon him. It's not for the states to prove he IS or IS NOT a citizen. That is his burden.

No one shoud be allowed to be on the ballot that hasn't produced their birth certificate.

hawaii 5-0

1/29/2012, 05:30 PM

LiveLaughLove

1/29/2012, 05:41 PM

Obama's birthplace should have never been questioned in the first place.

There was (and still is) a certain minority that refuse to believe. If one says it often enough, it becomes truth.

It takes all kinds.

5-0

I don't disagree that his birthplace should not be questioned.

He and everyone else running for President should still have to show their birth certificate. Every one. No exceptions.

It's really not too much to ask. You know, compliance with the Constitution, if you are seeking to be it's chief enforcer.

I personally never thought Obama wasn't an American born and bred. I've always thought he should have been required to show it. Same as everyone else should.

REDREX

1/29/2012, 10:12 PM

I never believed it like a majority of YOUR party did with not born in america. Still can drop it can you, birther.

You see the difference between an ignorant conservative and a smart liberal is when presented with FACTS like she did have him, in palins case, HER WORD, we didn't keep questioning and questioning even in the face of overwhelming evidence. We used our brains and LEARNED. As the article clearly shows you morons don't.---Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough this week ?----Grow up and get a life

okie52

1/29/2012, 10:15 PM

I think he ha s been given an involuntary break to collect his thoughts.

REDREX

1/29/2012, 10:21 PM

I think he ha s been given an involuntary break to collect his thoughts.---I didn't know----He will not be missed

okie52

1/29/2012, 10:29 PM

I don't know if it is permanent.

hawaii 5-0

1/29/2012, 10:52 PM

I don't disagree that his birthplace should not be questioned.

He and everyone else running for President should still have to show their birth certificate. Every one. No exceptions.

It's really not too much to ask. You know, compliance with the Constitution, if you are seeking to be it's chief enforcer.

I personally never thought Obama wasn't an American born and bred. I've always thought he should have been required to show it. Same as everyone else should.

It was never a problem before.

Until........until......until........I dunno. There's just something different. I can't quite put a finger on it.

5-0

SCOUT

1/29/2012, 10:59 PM

It was never a problem before.

Until........until......until........I dunno. There's just something different. I can't quite put a finger on it.

5-0
He didn't provide it? Look, LLL is making a valid point. Every person running for President should be required to document that they meet the requirements of the office. If they stall on one of those items, it certainly opens them up to critique.

StoopTroup

1/29/2012, 11:11 PM

I think it's obvious Trump isn't running because he'll stall out on something.

http://www.artizans.com/images/previews/DEW3106.pvw.jpg

47straight

1/30/2012, 12:47 AM

It was never a problem before.

Until........until......until........I dunno. There's just something different. I can't quite put a finger on it.

5-0

Just man up like ITC and throw out the 'racist' label.

bigfatjerk

1/30/2012, 08:51 AM

HEY...OKIE52 what about his guy:

George W. Bush, the Great Pronunciator

That guy is a leftist, or at least on the same side of the political aisle as the current president who is a democrat. I still don't understand why the democrats hate Bush. Obama is essentially the Bush presidency continued.

dwarthog

1/30/2012, 10:19 AM

That guy is a leftist, or at least on the same side of the political aisle as the current president who is a democrat. I still don't understand why the democrats hate Bush. Obama is essentially the Bush presidency continued.

Hear, hear.

No doubt they were pissed due to him moving into their spending territory.

sappstuf

1/30/2012, 10:54 AM

It was never a problem before.

Until........until......until........I dunno. There's just something different. I can't quite put a finger on it.

5-0

I agree.. Hillary and her supports are racist since you won't come out and say it...

Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve. That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz1kxONNJIp

SoonerTerry

1/30/2012, 11:16 AM

Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant, Ignorant

Thank you for again making the whole point of the study. So stupid.

Your debate style leaves much to be desired.

LiveLaughLove

1/30/2012, 11:19 AM

Your debate style leaves much to be desired.

He/she "debated" themselves right out of existence. At least with that name.

okie52

1/30/2012, 11:34 AM

Was that a permanent ban for ICT?

Like him or not, he did keep the board lively. And, I never had to journey to google to find the DNC's talking points.

dwarthog

1/30/2012, 11:36 AM

I agree.. Hillary and her supports are racist since you won't come out and say it...

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz1kxONNJIp

Shame on you, interfering with the rewriting of history like this.... :-)

Caboose

1/30/2012, 12:00 PM

I agree.. Hillary and her supports are racist since you won't come out and say it...

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz1kxONNJIp

Its not racist when WE do it!

hawaii 5-0

1/30/2012, 12:09 PM

Just noting that no one else's birth certificate ever came up.

If it's so important, why hasn't it been an issue before now?

Was Eisenhower's birth place a problem? Sounds kinda German to me.

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pphilfran

1/30/2012, 12:14 PM

Just noting that no one else's birth certificate ever came up.

If it's so important, why hasn't it been an issue before now?

Was Eisenhower's birth place a problem? Sounds kinda German to me.

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Like others have said it was the Clinton group that started the quest...

Then it took months (year?) to actually see the thing...

As soon as the question came up he should have released the certificate....now, since he dragged his feet, many people still question the accuracy of the certificate...

The Clinton campaign started it....dumb...
Obama not showing the document asap...dumb...
Folks still questioning his birthplace....dumb...

Caboose

1/30/2012, 12:28 PM

Just noting that no one else's birth certificate ever came up.

If it's so important, why hasn't it been an issue before now?

Was Eisenhower's birth place a problem? Sounds kinda German to me.

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Don't know, did you bother asking the racist Liberals who brought it up before the 2008 election?

If it is so important to you now why wasn't it important to you back then?

hawaii 5-0

1/30/2012, 12:41 PM

Don't know, did you bother asking the racist Liberals who brought it up before the 2008 election?

If it is so important to you now why wasn't it important to you back then?

I'm not sure if you're throwing the question 'out there' or directing it to me personally.

I'm not a Birther. I was happy with the notice in the Honolulu Advertiser.

I don't care who initiated it. I'm amused by the folks who still refuse to believe Obama's anything but American.

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Caboose

1/30/2012, 12:47 PM

I'm not sure if you're throwing the question 'out there' or directing it to me personally.

I'm not a Birther. I was happy with the notice in the Honolulu Advertiser.

I don't care who initiated it. I'm amused by the folks who still refuse to believe Obama's anything but American.

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Back-peddling.

hawaii 5-0

1/30/2012, 01:07 PM

Back-peddling.

Deflecting.

Are you still a Birther?

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SoonerPride

1/30/2012, 01:08 PM

Like others have said it was the Clinton group that started the quest...

Then it took months (year?) to actually see the thing...

As soon as the question came up he should have released the certificate....now, since he dragged his feet, many people still question the accuracy of the certificate...

The Clinton campaign started it....dumb...
Obama not showing the document asap...dumb...
Folks still questioning his birthplace....dumb...

It was released in the primary season of the 2008 campaign.

Caboose

1/30/2012, 01:14 PM

Deflecting.

Are you still a Birther?

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Are you still a racist?

hawaii 5-0

1/30/2012, 01:47 PM

Are you still a racist?

No, I'm no longer a racist.

I make fun of all races equally. It's a requirement to get along if you choose to live in Hawaii.

Are you still a Birther?

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Caboose

1/30/2012, 02:08 PM

No, I'm no longer a racist.

I make fun of all races equally. It's a requirement to get along if you choose to live in Hawaii.

Are you still a Birther?

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Ive never been a Birther. Nice to hear that you have stopped being a racist though.

hawaii 5-0

1/30/2012, 02:18 PM

Ive never been a Birther. Nice to hear that you have stopped being a racist though.

When I first moved here I used the term 'Jap' once. Someone pointed out rather quickly that it's not a good word to use, unless you're kidding and the people around you know that you're kidding.

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Bourbon St Sooner

1/30/2012, 04:16 PM

When I saw the title, I knew this thread wouldn't disappoint.

SoonerTerry

1/30/2012, 04:19 PM

Turd_Ferguson

1/30/2012, 11:39 PM

When I first moved here I used the term 'Jap' once. Someone pointed out rather quickly that it's not a good word to use, unless you're kidding and the people around you know that you're kidding.

5-0Wtf does jap have to do with racism? Jap...short for Japanese. Anybody that thinks jap is racist should borrow a pocket knife, cut their balls off and give them to their boyfriend to carry in his purse.

yermom

1/31/2012, 12:02 AM

psst.. your ignorance is showing

cleller

1/31/2012, 12:10 AM

We're all a bunch of Okies. Someone pity us. Then apologize to us about something, and make us feel special.

SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 12:23 AM

Wtf does jap have to do with racism? Jap...short for Japanese. Anybody that thinks jap is racist should borrow a pocket knife, cut their balls off and give them to their boyfriend to carry in his purse.

This. Using the term Jap to describe the Japanese is no more racist than using Brit to describe the British.

That's why I always use the term "nips" when talking about the Japs so that there's absolutely no confusion as to what I think.

okie52

1/31/2012, 01:09 AM

This. Using the term Jap to describe the Japanese is no more racist than using Brit to describe the British.

That's why I always use the term "nips" when talking about the Japs so that there's absolutely no confusion as to what I think.

Hahaha. And then there's the krauts, frogs and Limeys.

Chuck Bao

1/31/2012, 01:21 AM

Well, I'm racist against those damn yanks.

When I'm called a yank, I have to explain to the frogs, poms, krauts, et al. that dem are fighting words.

SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 01:49 AM

Well, I'm racist against those damn yanks.

When I'm called a yank, I have to explain to the frogs, poms, krauts, et al. that dem are fighting words.
I love you.

Chuck Bao

1/31/2012, 04:42 AM

I love you.

I guess I need to say that I'm also racsist against sons of the south weirdos.

SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 05:04 AM

I guess I need to say that I'm also racsist against sons of the south weirdos.
Well ****.

Bourbon St Sooner

1/31/2012, 12:00 PM

My wife's a Pollock(sp?). I can say that word because I'm married to one. For the rest of you that would be offensive.

Also, I'm thinking of becoming Jewish just for the jokes.

C&CDean

1/31/2012, 01:33 PM

My wife's a Pollock(sp?). I can say that word because I'm married to one. For the rest of you that would be offensive.

Also, I'm thinking of becoming Jewish just for the jokes.

Why do Jewish women have crowsfeet around their eyes?

From whining "you want me to suck your what!!??"

hawaii 5-0

1/31/2012, 08:36 PM

Using the word 'Jap" in Hawaii would be similar to using the word 'Injun' around a bunch of Native Americans.

Ya better look around ya furst.

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SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 08:41 PM

Using the word 'Jap" in Hawaii would be similar to using the word 'Injun' around a bunch of Native Americans.

Ya better look around ya furst.

5-0

What are they going to do -- capture me, torture me, and then use me as slave labor in a Mitsubishi factory?

hawaii 5-0

1/31/2012, 08:42 PM

Stink Eye would be the first response.

It goes right downhill from there.

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StoopTroup

1/31/2012, 08:50 PM

Yeah 5-0 I was thinking they would probably crack a beer bottle over his head and then grab him by his skull with both hands and press their thumbs into his eye sockets until he's screaming "Don't kill me!". Then they will throw him on the ground and kick the **** out of him until he's got some broken ribs and beginning to bleed out his mouth.

Now...I think it would be better to apologize the instant he said it but I'm guessing if he is around the wrong Asians or Native Americans, he won't get the chance.

hawaii 5-0

1/31/2012, 08:55 PM

SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 09:01 PM

StoopTroup

1/31/2012, 09:53 PM

Par for the course when it comes to the Japs.

Just sayin, they were some scrapers. It took threatening to turn their Island into an active Volcano to get them to stop and play nicer in WWII.

Notice how Nicer rhymes with ricer? :D

hawaii 5-0

1/31/2012, 10:35 PM

WW2 was almost 70 years ago. It's over. We won.

The American Civil war is over as well.

Well. to most people.

The Cold War is over as well.

Just sayin'

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SicEmBaylor

1/31/2012, 10:59 PM

WW2 was almost 70 years ago. It's over. We won.

The War of Northern Aggression is over as well.

Well. to most people.

The Cold War is over as well.

Just sayin'

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I hate you.

hawaii 5-0

1/31/2012, 11:01 PM

I hate you.

I didn't say who lost the American Civil War.

Some say it's still in doubt.

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47straight

1/31/2012, 11:38 PM

5-0 and sic'em really are making me lol. 2 guys that I could scream at some days. well played.

cleller

2/1/2012, 09:26 AM

What are they going to do -- capture me, torture me, and then use me as slave labor in a Mitsubishi factory?

I believe their track record is more in line with:

Capture you, view as a non-human since you surrendered, cage you and starve you, then occasionally take you out, behead you, cut out your heart and eat it to make themselves feel superhuman.

Fast forward 60 years: teach their young you unleashed hell up them for no reason, and lobby for an apology for dropping two bombs on them -- vs firebombing their island to cinders, invading and killing everyone old enough to hold a sharp stick.

LiveLaughLove

2/1/2012, 10:09 AM

After seeing some of their tv shows, we should have went for extermination.

East Coast Bias

2/1/2012, 03:39 PM

After seeing some of their tv shows, we should have went for extermination.

Which one your Christian values did you consult to come up with that one?

Turd_Ferguson

2/1/2012, 04:41 PM

Which one your Christian values did you consult to come up with that one?How big of a stick did you shove up your *** before posting this?

LiveLaughLove

2/1/2012, 05:24 PM

Which one your Christian values did you consult to come up with that one?

It's called humor, we Christians have it. Try it sometime.

C&CDean

2/1/2012, 05:30 PM

Which one your Christian values did you consult to come up with that one?

The East Coasties never fail to amuse.

diverdog

2/1/2012, 06:03 PM

When I first moved here I used the term 'Jap' once. Someone pointed out rather quickly that it's not a good word to use, unless you're kidding and the people around you know that you're kidding.

5-0

I served with an all Hawaiian air crew when I was on C130s. They use to have me over for dinner and a couple of the wives called me haole child. I was assured it was a term of endearment but I am also not sure it was any different than being called little black sambo.

hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 06:12 PM

I served with an all Hawaiian air crew when I was on C130s. They use to have me over for dinner and a couple of the wives called me haole child. I was assured it was a term of endearment but I am also not sure it was any different than being called little black sambo.

'Haole', literally 'without breath' refers to caucasions in Hawaii. It can mean nothing or be a slur depending on the context.

I've got a Haole Boy hat and a Haole Boy polo shirt. Both were given as presents by Asian friends.

I've also been called 'Haole' and the person saying it was lookin' fo' beef.

No one here uses the word 'Jap' as an endearment. No reasonable person uses it at all, unless they're looking for a fight.

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East Coast Bias

2/1/2012, 07:00 PM

It's called humor, we Christians have it. Try it sometime.

I would be ashamed to put my name on a joke like that.Obviously you are not bothered by it.

C&CDean

2/1/2012, 07:03 PM

Jap is like sooo 1940's.

Nip sounds so much sexier.

LiveLaughLove

2/1/2012, 07:25 PM

I would be ashamed to put my name on a joke like that.Obviously you are not bothered by it.

You shame easily then, and I know me better than you so...

Lighten up Francis.

Or don't, doesn't matter to me.

hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 07:31 PM

Jap is like sooo 1940's.

Nip sounds so much sexier.

The racist slurs used by Eastwood in Gran Torino were at least creative. I couldn't help but laugh at them.

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SicEmBaylor

2/1/2012, 08:54 PM

Serious question:

Why is the use of a racial slur automatically racist? Does the term in and of itself indicate that the user hates a particular race? I think that's nonsense. At most, it shows the user is prejudicial but implying hate is absolute nonsense.

People really need to start drawing a distinction between prejudice and outright racism and hatred.

hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 10:18 PM

The use of a racial slur doesn't necessarily mean one is racist.

It could just denote insensitility, or just plain stupidy as evidenced by some of the replies on this Bored.

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Turd_Ferguson

2/1/2012, 11:03 PM

The use of a racial slur doesn't necessarily mean one is racist.

It could just denote insensitility, or just plain stupidy as evidenced by some of the replies on this Bored.

5-0It also could denote you have a stick up your *** over the usage of JAP...

C&CDean

2/1/2012, 11:03 PM

The use of a racial slur doesn't necessarily mean one is racist.

It could just denote insensitility, or just plain stupidy as evidenced by some of the replies on this Bored.

5-0

Or in my case, it could denote someone who doesn't give a **** if people wanna be all faux outraged over something as trivial as an assumed racial slur.

Wanna know why the world is ****ed up? Cause people are all worried about stupid **** like this. Wanna know something else that's ****ed up? Watch this:

Spic. Beaner. Greaser. Limey. Frog. Kraut. WOP. Dago. Mick. Jap. Nip. Chink. Gook. Slant. Pollack. Portagee. Honky. Cracker. Cracker assed cracker. Aggie.

******.

Funny how only one "racial slur" is taboo. All the others are "cute."

Yeah, it's pretty much all ****ed up because stupid people continue to fake their outrage over it all. A giant steaming pile of meh to me.

diverdog

2/1/2012, 11:13 PM

'Haole', literally 'without breath' refers to caucasions in Hawaii. It can mean nothing or be a slur depending on the context.

I've got a Haole Boy hat and a Haole Boy polo shirt. Both were given as presents by Asian friends.

I've also been called 'Haole' and the person saying it was lookin' fo' beef.

No one here uses the word 'Jap' as an endearment. No reasonable person uses it at all, unless they're looking for a fight.

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Thanks

I enjoyed being with them and my cooking skills with pork kept me in favor with the crew.

As far as Asian food goes that is what I pretty much live on most of the time. Vietnamese and Thai are my staples. A real Japanese place is hard to pass up.

diverdog

2/1/2012, 11:14 PM

Or in my case, it could denote someone who doesn't give a **** if people wanna be all faux outraged over something as trivial as an assumed racial slur.

Wanna know why the world is ****ed up? Cause people are all worried about stupid **** like this. Wanna know something else that's ****ed up? Watch this:

Spic. Beaner. Greaser. Limey. Frog. Kraut. WOP. Dago. Mick. Jap. Nip. Chink. Gook. Slant. Pollack. Portagee. Honky. Cracker. Cracker assed cracker. Aggie.

******.

Funny how only one "racial slur" is taboo. All the others are "cute."

Yeah, it's pretty much all ****ed up because stupid people continue to fake their outrage over it all. A giant steaming pile of meh to me.

Thank god you didn't say "mick" or I would have had to shoot your ***.

hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 11:16 PM

It also could denote you have a stick up your *** over the usage of JAP...

You're a stuck record, ya turd.

D- for originality.

OK, how 'bout Chink? Fine with that one?

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SoonerPride

2/1/2012, 11:19 PM

I've often thought the use of racial slurs says more about the speaker than about the subject.

The lack of concern with how one's speech affects others displays an inherent peronality flaw that is often times painful to observe.

Even if they are not embarrassed by their behavior, I am embarrassed for them.

Much like seeing a child who has crapped his pants.

hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 11:20 PM

Seems like our Admin is the one gettin' worked up.

I used to be an Okie redneck.

I've moved on. That's just me. Everyone else has their own choice.

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hawaii 5-0

2/1/2012, 11:21 PM

The fishin' is good tonite.

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C&CDean

2/2/2012, 09:58 AM

Seems like our Admin is the one gettin' worked up.

I used to be an Okie redneck.

I've moved on. That's just me. Everyone else has their own choice.

5-0

Worked up? wtf are you talking about haole?

I'm the furthest thing there is from your classic racist stereotype of an "okie redneck," yet it's the one lameassed thing your liberally destroyed brain comes up with. Very telling, and very lame. Just because someone feels that the PC stupidity some of y'all choose to embrace is ridiculous does not make them a redneck. But it sure is easy to slap that label on them when you're an ignorant redneck yourself who thinks he's better than the rest of us because he left the state and has allowed himself to be sucked into the mosh pit. Meh.

Curly Bill

2/2/2012, 10:23 AM

I yawn in the general direction of the panzy-a**ed PC crowd.

Mississippi Sooner

2/2/2012, 10:26 AM

I'm not at all racist. I hate everybody.

Curly Bill

2/2/2012, 10:33 AM

I'm not at all racist. I hate everybody.

You're a people hater! You should be ashamed of yourself, you mean old, intolerant, red-neck, people-hating, ignorant, backwoods, hillbilly fool!

hawaii 5-0

2/2/2012, 10:40 AM

Worked up? wtf are you talking about haole?

I'm the furthest thing there is from your classic racist stereotype of an "okie redneck," yet it's the one lameassed thing your liberally destroyed brain comes up with. Very telling, and very lame. Just because someone feels that the PC stupidity some of y'all choose to embrace is ridiculous does not make them a redneck. But it sure is easy to slap that label on them when you're an ignorant redneck yourself who thinks he's better than the rest of us because he left the state and has allowed himself to be sucked into the mosh pit. Meh.

Sorry you misunderstood my context, Dean. All I said was that you were getting worked up.

I actually said that 'I' was an Okie Redneck. I'm only speaking of personal experience. I'm still an Okie, always will be. I'm no longer a redneck. Like I said, that's just me.

If I ever implied that I'm better than anyone one this Board, I'd invite you to point that out.

If it's there, I'll stand corrected. If not, then you're making up stuff that simply isn't true.

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Mississippi Sooner

2/2/2012, 10:53 AM

You're a people hater! You should be ashamed of yourself, you mean old, intolerant, red-neck, people-hating, ignorant, backwoods, hillbilly fool!

That's right. I'm a peoplist.

SoonerAtKU

2/2/2012, 11:10 AM

I used to live down by Springfield, MO. I had a guy at my office who I generally liked and would talk to at the water cooler, so to speak. One day he came to me telling me a story about how he was threatened over the phone by a guy who either wanted to date or had dated my co-worker's current girlfriend. The caller was black, so my co-worker immediately started threatening back with a tirade of racist nonsense and began to brag to ME how he knew prominent members of the local Klan. The worst part of all of this mess was the conspiratorial tone he used, as if we were in this thing together.

I don't know whether I was more embarrassed for him, or embarrassed that he thought he could talk like that around ME and expect me to agree or be impressed.

That's how I feel when people go out of their way to use terms that they know are considered offensive and harmful. The words don't hurt, the willful ignorance hurts.

Curly Bill

2/2/2012, 11:13 AM

C&CDean

2/2/2012, 11:41 AM

I generally don't use those terms, nor am I a big fan of those that do, but I still laugh at peeps that get overly offended by it. Of course I generally laugh at those that get offended at whatever...

This.

The one thing I won't do though is kowtow by using ridiculous terms like African-American, Asian-American, Mexican-American, etc. To me it's black, asian, latino (cause not all of them are messicans even though olevet thinks so), white, etc.

Curly Bill

2/2/2012, 12:50 PM

Yup, same here. Most of those peeps don't care anyway, it's the do-gooders that get so offended.