Brandon Williams

[Boomer.....]

There is a lot of talk happening in the last two days about him possibly transferring.

THAT WOULD SUCK!

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Well, there's a site out there that's 10x better than this one that said it's just a rumor.

[oumartin]

Where there's smoke there is fire.. I wouldn't blame him in this pass first, pass second, pass third offense

[Boomer.....]

Well, there's a site out there that's 10x better than this one that said it's just a rumor.

I've seen it a few places. Yesterday it got shot down, but it started back up again today.

[oumartin]

well so long as we can keep Venables..

[Mad Dog Madsen]

I've seen it a few places. Yesterday it got shot down, but it started back up again today.

Damn! Let me see what oudavid has to say about this...

[Boomer.....]

TO THE TWITTER!

[badger]

Wouldn't be the first back to transfer this season if true :(

[Boomer.....]

Wouldn't be the first back to transfer this season if true :(

The 3rd. :(

So much for a stable of running backs.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

I wish Landry would transfer.

[NormanPride]

Why the heck would he transfer? He looks to get significant minutes next year. Whaley is back, but Finch is small and will be used in the passing game more.

[Boomer.....]

All speculation, but I've read playing time, a dysfunctional locker room, and family issues. Someone said he might have a kid in another state.

[En_Fuego]

dysfunctional locker room

lol

[Boomer.....]

Sadly it wouldn't surprise me.

[NormanPride]

Dysfunctional locker room I would believe. I don't think we have a soul on that team that can unify the troops.

Coach needs to step in and send some bad apples packing.

[LVSOONER15]

That would suck if her were to go. A little more added weight and he is a bruising back.

[oumartin]

Dysfunctional locker room I would believe. I don't think we have a soul on that team that can unify the troops.

Coach needs to step in and send some bad apples packing.


he'd have to send a coach packing too.

[KantoSooner]

NP, who do you see as the bad apples?

[SoonernAR]

I wasn't that impressed with his running anyhow, so no biggie.

[SoonerNutt]

He needs to worry about learning to take care of the football rather than who is on the depth chart above him. Every time he is given a chance to shine, he proves himself to be careless with the ball. If he never grows out of that, we'd be better off without him.

[CowboyMRW]

Texags was saying that he was going to come to AnM

[TanTanFeil]

Where there's smoke there is fire.. I wouldn't blame him in this pass first, pass second, pass third offense

I second that

[TanTanFeil]

I wasn't that impressed with his running anyhow, so no biggie.

Well he's young now. Once he gets older he will turn into a much need RB. He has some explosiveness

[Fraggle145]

Well he's young now. Once he gets older he will turn into a much need RB. He has some explosiveness

I'd like to get a RB that has more than "some" explosiveness...

[delhalew]

Transfer is weak. Become the beast that gets the starts. If the locker room is ****ed, get together with the guys who have a head on their shoulders, and fix the attitude. You have all the advantages you need at Oklahoma. Do something.

[oumartin]

hard to fix a locker room that has a coach that is causing turmoil

[Breadburner]

All the attitude and none of the sucess...GTFO if you dont like it here....

[Blue]

The more i read about this team, the more confidence i lose in the coaching staff.

Expectations next year for me will be the lowest since 99'.

[oudavid1]

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS....because the person I would ask is not in Norman for awhile.

[SoonerLaw09]

The more i read about this team, the more confidence i lose in the coaching staff.

Expectations next year for me will be the lowest since 99'.

^^^^this...except I think the blame lies as much on the players, or certain ones of them, as with the staff.

[picasso]

Transfer is weak. Become the beast that gets the starts. If the locker room is ****ed, get together with the guys who have a head on their shoulders, and fix the attitude. You have all the advantages you need at Oklahoma. Do something.
Yep, we had a RB leave this year who wold have gotten some PT after Whaley went down. Same with Grady when Bradford went down.
The grass isn't always greener at the other school! Unless it's at UT, they have some good grass.

[OUstud]

Texags was saying that he was going to come to AnM

In their eyes, everyone wants to go to A&M. :texan:

[cleller]

How did things sink to this?

[Rocko]

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS....because the person I would ask is not in Norman for awhile.

Why are you such an attention whore?

[mojorisen2014]

Why the heck would he transfer? He looks to get significant minutes next year. Whaley is back, but Finch is small and will be used in the passing game more.

Since williams likes to fumble alot alex ross may get ahead of him on the depth chart

[toast]

Under Stoops' tenure what transfers have had measurable success at another BCS school? I'm thinking of Tashard Choice, Beeler @ Stanford, and I guess you could throw in Keith Nichol at MSU. Can't come up with any others right now, but there may be some out there. Not trying to be a smart *** and say these players can't do well, it just seems the odds are stacked against you when you transfer.

[OUbasketball4life]

"The grass is not always greenier on the other side." I understand when athletes transfer for family reasons such as Calvin Newell (OU basketball player this year), but when athletes transfer due to playing time??? Why not work your tail off in the off season and prove to coaches that you can be trusted? I see this a lot with big time recruits looking for a sense of entitlement. Broyles could have transferred after being suspended his freshman year (Thank goodness he didn't), but no he worked hard and look at the career he had. Oh well, I hope Williams doesn't transfer due to playing time, but if he does the program will still go on.

[CowboyMRW]

In their eyes, everyone wants to go to A&M. :texan:

Haha, So true

[OU_Sooners75]

If Brandon Williams does leave, it may not be all bad. This weekend with all the recruits set to be in Norman, we may have a great weekend.

[Seamus]

Why are you such an attention whore?

Daddy didn't give affection, and the boy was something mommy wouldn't wear.

[Since71ASooner4Life]

I didn't see anything with this kid that made my jaw drop. He had a few 10~15 yard runs thru gaping holes, but nothing that told me all his hype was warranted. I hope he does stay and does turn out to be what you expect of a 5 star recruit, but I'm not reaching for the crying towel if he leaves.

[oudavid1]

Why are you such an attention whore?


Daddy didn't give affection, and the boy was something mommy wouldn't wear.

No no, this is why....


Damn! Let me see what oudavid has to say about this...

If someone references that idiot oudavid (third person reference) than he will show up and annoy you. If not, I'll just read. I like to read.

[ashley]

He has loads of ability but fumbled in almost all practices and every game.

[Boomer.....]

"The grass is not always greenier on the other side." I understand when athletes transfer for family reasons such as Calvin Newell (OU basketball player this year), but when athletes transfer due to playing time??? Why not work your tail off in the off season and prove to coaches that you can be trusted? I see this a lot with big time recruits looking for a sense of entitlement. Broyles could have transferred after being suspended his freshman year (Thank goodness he didn't), but no he worked hard and look at the career he had. Oh well, I hope Williams doesn't transfer due to playing time, but if he does the program will still go on.

Sadly the "family issues" that Newell gave were BS. He said he wanted to get close to his family in Philly, but is transferring to Central Florida. He also took visits to Wake, Maryland and UCLA.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_ucf/2011/12/oklahoma-guard-calvin-newell-transferring-to-ucf.html

[Sooner in Tampa]

I don't know how much weight to put into the Brandon Williams situation...but this exodus of players as well as the recent events during the season...OU has got some serious evaluations to conduct

It can't ALWAYS be the players fault

[jkjsooner]

Under Stoops' tenure what transfers have had measurable success at another BCS school? I'm thinking of Tashard Choice, Beeler @ Stanford, and I guess you could throw in Keith Nichol at MSU. Can't come up with any others right now, but there may be some out there. Not trying to be a smart *** and say these players can't do well, it just seems the odds are stacked against you when you transfer.

That's what I've been saying. It's not like these guys have found success and glory elsewhere. Most learn that they just weren't what they thought they were.

As for Choice, I don't think anyone can blame him. He was going to sit his career behind the best back that's played in 20 or so years. It was a good move for him.

As for Nichol, it was probably a good move and he's closer to home. I'm sure he's happy with how things turned out but even in his situation he didn't really get what he wanted out of the MSU transfer.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

If someone references that idiot oudavid (third person reference) than he will show up and annoy you. If not, I'll just read. I like to read.

But David I really like you... You're awesome! I'm not being sarcastic either. You're actually a chill dude in person. PLUS, you had on that really cool UCO sweater the 1st time we met.

[NormanPride]

I keep hearing about this exodus... but nobody's actually confirmed that anyone other than the two RBs and one TE are leaving. And those guys left before we lost and when everything was fine and dandy.

[BoulderSooner79]

I don't know how much weight to put into the Brandon Williams situation...but this exodus of players as well as the recent events during the season...OU has got some serious evaluations to conduct

It can't ALWAYS be the players fault

Apparently it can, if I read this thread correctly.

[mojorisen2014]

I keep hearing about this exodus... but nobody's actually confirmed that anyone other than the two RBs and one TE are leaving. And those guys left before we lost and when everything was fine and dandy.

I thought austin haywood is back on the team.

[Boomer.....]

I think he is trying to get back on the team, but Bob said that he wasn't yet.

[Soonerfan88]

Brandon Williams definitely leaving - wants to be closer to his daughter.

[70sooner]

I keep hearing about this exodus... but nobody's actually confirmed that anyone other than the two RBs and one TE are leaving. And those guys left before we lost and when everything was fine and dandy.

James Haynes and Josh Aladenoye are GONE

from what I heard this morning on the radio, both of these guys lockers have been cleared out, so I'd say they are gone. I'd heard Haywood was back on the team, but won't play until next season.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS....because the person I would ask is not in Norman for awhile.

Well - Tweet him/her!!!

[Breadburner]

Good.... weed out the ones that cant hack it now.....

[oudavid1]

But David I really like you... You're awesome! I'm not being sarcastic either. You're actually a chill dude in person. PLUS, you had on that really cool UCO sweater the 1st time we met.

Dont tell people that! People may actually think I am normal.


Well - Tweet him/her!!!

lol that person is too old for twitter.

[Sooner in Tampa]

Williams is GONE!!!

Per everyone's favorite James Hale

[oudavid1]

He made it official today.

I'll put a good link when I find one.

[BoulderSooner79]

Sigh. and I'll add what should be in the FAQ:

"We'll win without him"

"don't let the door hit you in the butt"

"If he doesn't want to be here, we don't want him"

"yada yada yada"

[sooneredaco]

BOOMER!!!

[deweydw]

I don't think it's any different than when Nichols went back to MSU. He might get some playing time next year. Maybe not enough to satisfy him.

[Curly Bill]

I used to say all that good riddance stuff too when someone would leave. Now I think I'll be a little less quick to do that, as I'm not so sure there's not good reasons for these guys to bail... Guess maybe we'll see....

[NormanPride]

lol

Now we have two scholarship RBs. Will we see Millard at RB? I hope so...

[oumartin]

Good luck to him.

[sooneredaco]

If someone references that idiot oudavid (third person reference) than he will show up and annoy you. If not, I'll just read. I like to read.

But David I really like you... You're awesome! I'm not being sarcastic either. You're actually a chill dude in person. PLUS, you had on that really cool UCO sweater the 1st time we met.

Go get a room guys!

[oudavid1]

lol

Now we have two scholarship RBs. Will we see Millard at RB? I hope so...

OH ME TOO ME TOO!

[Widescreen]

Unbelievable. I sure hope one of these guys we having coming in next year is ready to go. Finch is great but I don't think he's big enough to ride to a championship. Come on Whaley, get back to 100% soon.

Miller - Gone
Calhoun - Gone
Williams - Gone
Whaley - Out for season (hopefully not longer)
Clay - So far, injured and ineffective
Finch - Good player but not big

I was talking about how we had an embarrassment of riches at RB before the season started. I've never seen anything like this at OU.

[BoulderSooner79]

I used to say all that good riddance stuff too when someone would leave. Now I think I'll be a little less quick to do that, as I'm not so sure there's not good reasons for these guys to bail... Guess maybe we'll see....

Hear hear. Maybe it's just random walk (oops, pun), but half the players at one position? And folks seem to think this is a good thing because now we have more room the next HS phemon to come in. At some point, these HS stars must be molded into productive players or the only thing we will win is paper recruiting wars. As CB said, guess maybe we'll see...

[picasso]

We're thin a RB so this kid is leaving? There has to be more to it than playing time otherwise it doesn't make him look too bright.

[oumartin]

I think finch would be a good solid and effective running back.. Didn't he spend much of last fall trying to learn a receiving position? I could be wrong but now maybe he can focus solely on being the feature back that carries the rock 8-10 times per game.

[Curly Bill]

Hear hear. Maybe it's just random walk (oops, pun), but half the players at one position? And folks seem to think this is a good thing because now we have more room the next HS phemon to come in. At some point, these HS stars must be molded into productive players or the only thing we will win is paper recruiting wars. As CB said, guess maybe we'll see...

OMG! So, you're saying we could be the next texas?!?!

[jkjsooner]

I don't think it's any different than when Nichols went back to MSU. He might get some playing time next year. Maybe not enough to satisfy him.

I can think of several reasons it would be different. For starters, teams play multiple RB's so there was no reason to think that Williams would be riding the pine indefinitely. Second, there isn't an established freshman so we would have guys leaving in the next year or two. Third, a RB gets every opportunity to move up on the depth chart. A QB doesn't once one guy is established.

There may be something similar though - that Williams will learn that transferring doesn't exactly guarantee that he will be the best at his position.

[NormanPride]

I hate to point at Heupel, but he's the big change we had last season. I'm not sure if it's that he's a bad coach or just incompatible or what, but shortly after he moved into the OC role, we lost a bunch of players on offense.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Lets narrow this down to specifically running back:

Calhoun -> I'm not even sure what to say here as the kid was never going to get above 5th on a healthy depth chart. Every time I watched this kid run, he ran right into the back of an OL. What you look for out of FR are flashes and I never saw any. We'll see if he does well wherever he transferred but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't.

Miller -> Gundy bungled this one big time. One of the things that you have to be able to do as a college coach is manage expectations. Gundy didn't and Miller reacted accordingly. We as "old fogies" see that Miller overreacted, but that is what 18-22 year old kids do. The kid showed promise and would have been someone who could have stepped in for Whaley and had decent college production (between 4.5 and 5.5 ypc).

Williams -> Here again, the bungling of the Miller situation comes back to bite Gundy in the rear. First, the kid should have NEVER seen the field this year. You correct issues with fumbling and pass blocking before you put them on the field, not while they are out there. There are some exceptions to this if the kid is a perfectionist (which was why Peterson excelled as a freshman). Thus by losing Miller he has to get Williams ready to fill that backup slot only Williams doesn't act like he wants to fill that spot. From sideline views, you could tell he respected Whaley (as he was the first one to congratulate him) but not so with any other running back. Once Whaley went down, you could probably read between the lines that he expected to get Whaley's carries, but instead they got split between him, finch, and clay. Once again, expectations. Second, he is losing a kid with a chance to be a good college back (4.5-5.5 ypc) and more importantly has to bring in 2 running backs this year. We'll see how he does, but it just indicates how fragile being stockpiled at a position is. I have no idea how BJW manages to do it, but he needs to teach some other coaches his techniques (when was the last time we lost a DE?).

[Sooner91ATL]

DE = lower egos

I wish the young man the best and all that, but no way around it, this hurts a lot and sets us back at the position unless we mine gold in juco route.

[Widescreen]

My biggest concern is that Whaley may not get back to 100% by next September. We REALLY need that dude to get well.

[stoopified]

Discruntled players transferring is an old story.Just opens up chances for players and recruits who are not quitters.

[Tear Down This Wall]

All speculation, but I've read playing time, a dysfunctional locker room, and family issues. Someone said he might have a kid in another state.

Bah...who among us might not have kids in another state?

[tulsaoilerfan]

Well this sucks; how many more will leave before next season?

[One4OU]

lol

Now we have two scholarship RBs. Will we see Millard at RB? I hope so...

Can one of our kickers play RB...they are on scholly

[StoopTroup]

My biggest concern is that Whaley may not get back to 100% by next September. We REALLY need that dude to get well.

Agreed. I want this to happen for not only OU but for him. I think he's an outstanding kid. It was heartbreaking to see him get hurt.

[StoopTroup]

I think finch would be a good solid and effective running back.. Didn't he spend much of last fall trying to learn a receiving position? I could be wrong but now maybe he can focus solely on being the feature back that carries the rock 8-10 times per game.

It's a huge maybe. The guy just isn't big enough. I still love the way Quentin Griffin played but once he got to the NFL it really showed how his size affected his longevity. Finch was like lightning when he first came here. We really saw the max out of him this year IMO. If Bob can get more out of Finch than he got out of him this year....It's only because they limit his snaps. There is no way Roy can endure the number of snaps we saw Murray take.

[oumartin]

It was a funny!

seeing as OU didn't run the ball much. Finchy could be the feature back cuz OU runs it only 8-10 times a game.

Ha Ha

[StoopTroup]

Disgruntled players transferring is an old story.Just opens up chances for players and recruits who are not quitters.

I think that's probably gonna be the case too. maybe not this year but the next....we will be a really great Team. There is just no way the number of injuries can continue to increase....at least I hope they don't.

[StoopTroup]

It was a funny!

seeing as OU didn't run the ball much. Finchy could be the feature back cuz OU runs it only 8-10 times a game.

Ha Ha

Hilarious.

[cvsooner]

We have some 'fans' I wish would bail.

[picasso]

Yeah, I don't get the dooshiness around here.

[Biggnick15]

It was a funny!

seeing as OU didn't run the ball much. Finchy could be the feature back cuz OU runs it only 8-10 times a game.

Ha Ha

If you have to explain the joke its not funny.

[SoonerMom2]

We have some 'fans' I wish would bail.

That makes two of us! Must admit all the negativity following the loss to the school up north made my brother and I decide to go to the Insight Bowl to support the Sooners when we originally were not planning to attend this year. I had even cancelled the tickets on Sunday and on Monday morning I submitted my request for tickets.

[Sooner Cal]

I was never impressed. I think we can find someone who is capable of fumbling 3 times in just a few carries. He had a chance and learned that he's got issues with the ball in games as well as at practive.

I don't think the locker room has anything to do with it. I think he's having a tough time coming to the realization that he's not dominant at the D1 level like he was in high school and that he might never be.

[Boomer.....]

You guys need to stop being the "he wasn't that good anyways" crowd. The kid was a true freshman and had flashes of being a really good back. We are super thin in the backfield and could definitely use him.

[BoulderSooner79]

You guys need to stop being the "he wasn't that good anyways" crowd. The kid was a true freshman and had flashes of being a really good back. We are super thin in the backfield and could definitely use him.

But it makes 'em feel better.

[IBleedCrimson]

You guys need to stop being the "he wasn't that good anyways" crowd. The kid was a true freshman and had flashes of being a really good back. We are super thin in the backfield and could definitely use him.

Ja. Except for his ball security issues, I thought he had serious potential. If we could just fixed the fumbles, he could have been a real asset. Good thing we got enough depth at RB for 2 teams... wait

[Neath a Western Sky]

I used to say all that good riddance stuff too when someone would leave. Now I think I'll be a little less quick to do that, as I'm not so sure there's not good reasons for these guys to bail... Guess maybe we'll see....

Thank you, Curly Bill. Yes. You're a daisy. And you know how I mean that.

[SoonerInFortSmith]

It was a funny!

seeing as OU didn't run the ball much. Finchy could be the feature back cuz OU runs it only 8-10 times a game.

Ha Ha

If you have to explain the joke its not funny.

I got it the first time. Wait, does that mean I am equally not funny?

[NormanPride]

I've heard he hasn't been released yet, are we sure Williams is 100% gone?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

All I'm hearing is that the coaches are trying to talk him out of it.

[Breadburner]

All I'm hearing is that the coaches are trying to talk him out of it.

Hope he pulls his head out....

[rekamrettuB]

Ja. Except for his ball security issues, I thought he had serious potential. If we could just fixed the fumbles, he could have been a real asset. Good thing we got enough depth at RB for 2 teams... wait
And this is one thing you CAN teach a running back. You can't teach them speed, quickness, vision. I'm disappointed if he is leaving. I liked what I saw.

[NormanPride]

Even in a full on spread he has the chance to rack up huge numbers... He just has to work on his route running and pass blocking.

[SoonerInFortSmith]

If the coaches are asking him to stay then he needs to swallow his pride and do it. It seems to me to be somewhat uncharacteristic of this coaching staff so he should take advantage of the opportunity.

[BoulderSooner79]

All I'm hearing is that the coaches are trying to talk him out of it.

But wait, several posters here are not impressed with Williams - do the coaches know this?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

What I'm hearing about a lot of stuff is a lot different than what I'm hearing on message boards..I'll let it play itself out though

[BoulderSooner79]

What I'm hearing about a lot of stuff is a lot different than what I'm hearing on message boards..I'll let it play itself out though

Nobody likes a tease.


:P :D

[stoops the eternal pimp]

PM sent

[NormanPride]

I'd ask you what is going on, but I'd probably just blab it to people anyway. Best not to trust me unless you want everyone to know.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

It's really not a big deal, it's just a different perspective than what we've beem ranting about

[colleyvillesooner]

I'll take that PM.

[Curly Bill]

I want it too!

[picasso]

But wait, several posters here are not impressed with Williams - do the coaches know this?
What's your point? A lot of posters on here aren't impressed with our coaches either.

[NormanPride]

I bet it's that some players were mean to the other ones and didn't let them play parcheesi with them, so they're leaving.

[kbsooner21]

Why is oumartin still here?

[Curly Bill]

Why is oumartin still here?

Why are you?

[Augusta_Sooner]

Not sure why Brandon Williams would want to transfer unless he thinks this offense is not going to give him the best opportunity to develop. The guy has tremendous upside and if Whaley hasn't recovered 100% by fall practice, Williams could start game 1. Once you become the starter, it's usually difficult to lose your job unless you fumble (hopefully he gets this resolved) or can't protect the QB. At worse, he could be the #2 guy (assuming he can hang on to the ball & continue to learn the offense) who still gets plenty of playing time. He's a speedster that could explode in this offense if he's patient enough. Hope he stays.....also hope OU is recruiting other RBs, regardless if Williams stays or not.

[Breadburner]

He aint going start anywhere if cant hold onto the ****ing football.......

[SoonerTerry]

Does anyone think there may have been some butthurt over this walk on 2nd string juco kid comeing in any taking (earning) the starting job from all these high star nationaly recruited RB's?

[Breadburner]

Does anyone think there may have been some butthurt over this walk on 2nd string juco kid comeing in any taking (earning) the starting job from all these high star nationaly recruited RB's?

Yes...Of course there was.....

[SoonerNutt]

Does anyone think there may have been some butthurt over this walk on 2nd string juco kid comeing in any taking (earning) the starting job from all these high star nationaly recruited RB's?

I think that potentially has something to it. It's a tough thing for these kids to admit. They were out-classed by an unrecruited walk-on.

Ultimately though, it's probably more about playing time. Whaley looked really good, and the others realize that he is going to be the #1 as long as he is healthy. We had guys transfer when AD showed how good he was too, and he certainly was no walk-on. Guys just though they could come in here and compete with him, and then realized they weren't at his level. I think it's a similar thing with Whaley, though it came as more of a surprise to everybody.

The point is, Whaley is the real mcCoy, regardless of what his HS recuiting status was. He is a superstar, and will probably go on to be the same at the next level. He is so good that all of the other RBs on the team realize they have little chance of taking away his starting spot, and that is the real story, IMO.

[kbsooner21]

Why are you?

Because I actually like the football program and the university. If I hated it as much as you guys, I'd find something better to spend my time on.

[oumartin]

Because I actually like the football program and the university. If I hated it as much as you guys, I'd find something better to spend my time on.

You making assumptions that we don't = DUMB

[BoulderSooner79]

...
The point is, Whaley is the real mcCoy, regardless of what his HS recuiting status was. He is a superstar, and will probably go on to be the same at the next level. He is so good that all of the other RBs on the team realize they have little chance of taking away his starting spot, and that is the real story, IMO.

The flaw in your logic is that all reports say that Williams really looked up to Whaley. Also, there are lots of touches outside the #1 guy at OU and this all happened after Whaley was lost for the season after only 6 games. RB is a positions that you can almost count on missed playing time due to injury.

[kbsooner21]

You making assumptions that we don't = DUMB

You fool quite a few of us that read your posts.

[oumartin]

well then you don't read many of them.

[Boomer.....]

Martin is really a closet aggy fan.

[soonerinbixby]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.

[OkieThunderLion]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.
That doesn't sound accurate.

If he returns healthy, and the earlier reported measurables are accurate (tests great), he will be a solid pro prospect.

[SoonerTerry]

I think that potentially has something to it. It's a tough thing for these kids to admit. They were out-classed by an unrecruited walk-on.

Ultimately though, it's probably more about playing time. Whaley looked really good, and the others realize that he is going to be the #1 as long as he is healthy. We had guys transfer when AD showed how good he was too, and he certainly was no walk-on. Guys just though they could come in here and compete with him, and then realized they weren't at his level. I think it's a similar thing with Whaley, though it came as more of a surprise to everybody.

The point is, Whaley is the real mcCoy, regardless of what his HS recuiting status was. He is a superstar, and will probably go on to be the same at the next level. He is so good that all of the other RBs on the team realize they have little chance of taking away his starting spot, and that is the real story, IMO.

I think you are right on the button here. But make no mistake this is just my wild *** conjecture, I have no sources, just 40+ years of living with people.
I have been in a position similar to Whaley's (not football, just the tech field I'm in) and have seen a very talented guy leave when he realized that he was not going to be the "Base Ace".

[Boomer.....]

I just saw someone post this tweet thingy:


@Recruitocosm
Recruitocosm
Just got word from my Brandon Williams source that the talented RB will be going to TAMU. Congrats ags. Great kid and player!

Who knows how much weight it has.

[SoonerNutt]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.

I won't back down from that statement. I didn't say he was Peterson, just that he will be a star at the next level. The only thing that would prevent it is injury. He has an awesome skillset, and will blow people away at the combines next year. People need to get over the fact that he slipped though the cracks in HS recruiting. You can see with your eyes that he is the real deal.

[OUbasketball4life]

Just curious, but if a player has not been released by their current school, could atm be in trouble for recruiting the player or talking to him before he has been released?

[Curly Bill]

Because I actually like the football program and the university. If I hated it as much as you guys, I'd find something better to spend my time on.

But then you're making assumptions that you're not qualified for, nor are you qualified to be the internet police and decide who should or should not be here...though there seems to be several of you trying to assume that role here lately.

[BillyBall]

Just curious, but if a player has not been released by their current school, could atm be in trouble for recruiting the player or talking to him before he has been released?

The answer would be "yes"

[kbsooner21]

But then you're making assumptions that you're not qualified for, nor are you qualified to be the internet police and decide who should or should not be here...though there seems to be several of you trying to assume that role here lately.

Thanks

[BoulderSooner79]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.

I see no basis for that statement. Whaley showed he was pretty refined in both the run and pass game and he has plenty of size and speed to play pro ball. There are many backs in the NFL that are not in the same category as Peterson (like almost all of them). I'm not saying Whaley is a lock to play in the NFL, but he showed plenty of ability.

[picasso]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.
I don't think anyone is comparing him to a frosh who nearly won the Heisman. He was our best back this season.

[LostCreekSooner]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.

Are we talking about the same kid that started for OU the first part of the year, prior to breaking his leg?

[AlboSooner]

Shut the whole thing down, and let's become an academic blue blood. Academics actually matter.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Just curious, but if a player has not been released by their current school, could atm be in trouble for recruiting the player or talking to him before he has been released?

Heh, given your username I'd think you'd remember that that was what 20% of Kelvin's impermissable phone calls were about...

[jkjsooner]

I just saw someone post this tweet thingy:



Who knows how much weight it has.

I hope this isn't a sign that recruits are now looking harder at A&M so they can play in the SEC. I know many have dismissed the impact that this will have but I'm won't dismiss the possibility that the move to the SEC won't help UT at our expense..

[8timechamps]

I hope this isn't a sign that recruits are now looking harder at A&M so they can play in the SEC. I know many have dismissed the impact that this will have but I'm won't dismiss the possibility that the move to the SEC won't help UT at our expense..

I don't think it's a sign. If true, it just tells me that a kid that couldn't crack the starting rotation at OU wants to go somewhere else that may provide him the chance to get more playing time.

I liked what I saw of BW, but the fact that he could not secure the ball worried me. Had he taken care of the ball, I think he would have found ample playing time at OU.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Whaley is a superstar? That is news to me. He is a really nice back but he little to no chance of playing on Sundays. Would you put him in the same category as a Peterson? I love Whaley too death but he is just a really nice player we have at OU.

I'd put him in the same category as Demarco Murray, he plays on Sundays.

[Boomer.....]

Oklahoma RB Brandon Williams transferring to A&M (http://www.aggiesports.com/football/Oklahoma-RB-Brandon-Williams-transferring-to-A-amp-amp-M--6851222)

[En_Fuego]

I'd put him in the same category as Demarco Murray, he plays on Sundays.

I put him in the same category as Sirr Parker


Oklahoma RB Brandon Williams transferring to A&M

[possumfat]

WTF is going on in Norman!

[sooneron]

Exactly what is he claiming as a hardship? Skillet hands? Good luck kid, but you fumble way too ****ing much.

http://wordforge.net/images/smilies/CurlyBill.jpg

[champions77]

Oklahoma RB Brandon Williams transferring to A&M (http://www.aggiesports.com/football/Oklahoma-RB-Brandon-Williams-transferring-to-A-amp-amp-M--6851222)

This is a crying shame. I heard from a very good source that he got hurt angainst osu, he told they coaches he was hurt, they sent him back out anyway and he got hurt worse. He feels that his best interests are not being served at OU. A place where they don't care about the well being of their players. I am sure there is another side of this story, but that's his.

[rdusooner]

Well, I for one hope he doesn't succeed at A&M, but that's probably just me being bitter

[SoonerNutt]

Well, I for one hope he doesn't succeed at A&M, but that's probably just me being bitter

Hard to blame you. Of course, with me, there are Sooners, and everybody else. The latter group, I don't really pay too much attention to, so it will be easy to forget about BW, especially since he has contribution next to nothing in his time as a Sooner.

[PLaw]

I see Dom Whaley and I'm reminded of Allen Patrick and Chris Brown. Solid players, but will have a tough time making a NFL roster.

With respect to BW - I can see Bob giving him a release to TAMU considering that Sumlin in there and they have high-tailed it out of the conference. Best wishes.

RB recruiting should become real interesting. Not sure what is left out there to be had, but Cale better get busy. Any chances Miller comes back?

Johnson, Calhoun, Miller, Williams

BOOMER

[colleyvillesooner]

Oklahoma RB Brandon Williams transferring to A&M (http://www.aggiesports.com/football/Oklahoma-RB-Brandon-Williams-transferring-to-A-amp-amp-M--6851222)

So he didn't want to be close to his family when he made the commitment to OU over Baylor 20 months ago?

[freshchris05]

He must really like border collies and homos...




Don't fumble the soap in the locker room..

[dwarthog]

Hate to see the kid go, but if he wants to be closer to home, good luck to him.

[Jacie]

Over in aggieland they are seeing stars as in Brandon William's pre-signing rating. No one that I can see bothered to look into why he failed to crack the starting lineup though at least one noticed his lack of passes caught statistic . . .

[soonerlaw]

Those comments on the Aggie board are funny, especially this one on why BW transferred:

"SEC affiliation is paying off, just as we said it would in years to come."

[birddog]

ags succeed in sec? not in a 3 yr olds lifetime.

[picasso]

Tough times don't last. Tough people do.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

ags succeed in sec? not in 3 lifetimes.

FIFY ;)

[ashley]

He is leaving because he could not hold the ball in every schrimmage and game. You cannot play a fumbler. Plus, he wants to be closer to his kids.

[Tear Down This Wall]

I want to be closer to my kids do, so I don't blame him. Our office in Dallas was 25 miles from our home in Frisco. So, when our lease expired there, we leased our new space in Frisco. We're maybe six miles from home now and I see my wife and kids more.

I can now play with my kids, eat dinner with the family, and have more quickies with my wife. You white people need to just accept it!