Chuck Neinas calls for plus-one playoff

[En_Fuego]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7317611/interim-big-12-commissioner-chuck-neinas-pushes-plus-one-playoff-model

Interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas said Sunday night that a model allowing the top four teams of college football to meet in the postseason should be revisited.

"The plus-one model has received consideration before," Neinas said. "As a result of this year, I feel that consideration should become more serious as we move forward."Oklahoma State finished a close third to Alabama in the final BCS standings and will play in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl instead of the Allstate BCS National Championship.

Cowboys coach Mike Gundy believes his team, after a rout of Oklahoma, deserves a chance to play for the title.

Oklahoma State won its conference while Alabama did not. And the Crimson Tide has already lost to LSU this season.In the past, SEC commissioner Mike Slive and ACC commissioner John Swofford have supported a plus-one system.

It was rebuked by the other conferences, but now Dan Beebe is no longer Big 12 commissioner and Tom Hanson has been replaced in the Pac-12 by Larry Scott, who has proven to be forward-thinking.

In a seeded, plus-one system for this season, LSU would have faced Stanford and Alabama would have faced Oklahoma State, with the winners playing for the title.

In that scenario, the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions, Wisconsin and Oregon, would still play in the Rose Bowl.

In the past, the Big Ten and Pac-12s preference to preserve the rivalry of its champions meeting when at all possible has been an obstacle for the concept of an expanded postseason format.

[IndySooner]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7317611/interim-big-12-commissioner-chuck-neinas-pushes-plus-one-playoff-model

Interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas said Sunday night that a model allowing the top four teams of college football to meet in the postseason should be revisited.

"The plus-one model has received consideration before," Neinas said. "As a result of this year, I feel that consideration should become more serious as we move forward."Oklahoma State finished a close third to Alabama in the final BCS standings and will play in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl instead of the Allstate BCS National Championship.

Cowboys coach Mike Gundy believes his team, after a rout of Oklahoma, deserves a chance to play for the title.

Oklahoma State won its conference while Alabama did not. And the Crimson Tide has already lost to LSU this season.In the past, SEC commissioner Mike Slive and ACC commissioner John Swofford have supported a plus-one system.

It was rebuked by the other conferences, but now Dan Beebe is no longer Big 12 commissioner and Tom Hanson has been replaced in the Pac-12 by Larry Scott, who has proven to be forward-thinking.

In a seeded, plus-one system for this season, LSU would have faced Stanford and Alabama would have faced Oklahoma State, with the winners playing for the title.

In that scenario, the Big Ten and Pac-12 champions, Wisconsin and Oregon, would still play in the Rose Bowl.

In the past, the Big Ten and Pac-12s preference to preserve the rivalry of its champions meeting when at all possible has been an obstacle for the concept of an expanded postseason format. There would need to be a clause in a plus-one. Oregon would be getting completely screwed by not getting in over Stanford.

[Lott's Bandana]

Nothing changes until Chuck Norris approves.

[Tidefan36854]

You're a day late and dollar short Chuck. If Dan Beebe had stepped up to plate with a plus 1 system in 2008, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The fear back then was that it would allow 2 SEC teams to play for the National Championship. Beebe and the other commissioners wanted to take the easy way to get their teams in the BCSGC. In fact, Beebe said last year "It's about quality, not quantity," Dodds said. "In my mind, 10 is the perfect conference. You have a clear path to the national championship game without stumbling in a (conference) championship game." Irony. Sweet Irony. I realize that Beebe only said this after Nebraska and Colorado left, but for all the SEC haters, we aren't the ones afraid of competion. Hopefully for everybody's sake, we can make this happen now.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_sec_reaps_reward_rejection_120311


ATLANTA – There’s a sizeable portion of college football lamenting that the BCS championship game will feature a rematch of two teams from the same league – LSU and Alabama of the Southeastern Conference.

Go ahead and be frustrated.

Just don’t blame the SEC.



In 2008, commissioner Mike Slive pitched a so-called “plus-one” plan that essentially was a four-team playoff using existing bowl games. Other than the ACC, the other conferences not only summarily rejected the plan, they refused to even discuss its details.

[swardboy]

You go, Chucky boy!

[arcman46]

I liked the BCS when it first came out, but it has officially become a joke. When a team wins the conference, who, by the way, is rated the #1 conference in the computers, doesn't get the chance to play for the NC trophy, and a team from the perceived "best conference in college football" who gets in, then something has to happen. Alabama had a great season. They are a great team. Perhaps they are the second best team in the country. Bust when you look at their schedule it was fairly weak. They lost to the only undefeated team in the country in LSU. That's acceptable. Arkansas: overrated, not all that good. Auburn: ditto. Auburn came within a hair of losing to Utah State. Arkansas, barely pulled out a win against TAMU, Vandy, and Ole Miss. If Alabama wants into the NCG, having not won their conference, then they should have to play their way into it.

[sooner_born_1960]

There would need to be a clause in a plus-one. Oregon would be getting completely screwed by not getting in over Stanford.
What kind of clause are you thinking about? The top four teams are in?

[SoonerMarkVA]

"Beauty. When that clever little trick pays off, you be sure to let us know."

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I'm with Chuck..

[rekamrettuB]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7317611/interim-big-12-commissioner-chuck-neinas-pushes-plus-one-playoff-model

Oklahoma State won its conference while Alabama did not. And the Crimson Tide has already lost to LSU this season.In the past, SEC commissioner Mike Slive and ACC commissioner John Swofford have supported a plus-one system.

In a seeded, plus-one system for this season, LSU would have faced Stanford and Alabama would have faced Oklahoma State, with the winners playing for the title.



The above does not compute. People just go brain dead when arguing for playoffs and against the BCS. In one breath he is saying Bama doesn't deserve a shot because of not winning their conference. In the other he is saying not only do they deserve a shot but another non conference champ does too. Make up your mind folks. And the thing about the Big X and Pac 12 that works for this one year only is irrelevant also.

[SoonerMom2]

This problem would not have come up if the lamebrains in charge had not considered a 10-team conference ideal. The fact they didn't want a school to stumble in a true Conference Championship game allowed this to happen. Ten teams does not work when other conferences have gone to championship games -- Big 10 and Pac 12. What the Big 12 said would not happen with out of conference strength of schedule happened in the very first year -- Big 12 got one team in while SEC, ACC, PAC 12, and Big 10 have two teams a piece in the BCS. We were a much stronger conference but without a conference championship, we suffered the same fate as the Big East -- one team.

Computers didn't see a difference between AL/AU game and OU/OSU game -- both not championship games and no amount of hype for bedlam changed that perception. Didn't take genius fo figure that out. Expect more of this if the Big 12 does not go back to 12 teams and it doesn't make any difference it seems who those other two teams are as long as it lands us a Conference Championship game.

[rekamrettuB]

This problem would not have come up if the lamebrains in charge had not considered a 10-team conference ideal. The fact they didn't want a school to stumble in a true Conference Championship game allowed this to happen. Ten teams does not work when other conferences have gone to championship games -- Big 10 and Pac 12. What the Big 12 said would not happen with out of conference strength of schedule happened in the very first year -- Big 12 got one team in while SEC, ACC, PAC 12, and Big 10 have two teams a piece in the BCS. We were a much stronger conference but without a conference championship, we suffered the same fate as the Big East -- one team.

Computers didn't see a difference between AL/AU game and OU/OSU game -- both not championship games and no amount of hype for bedlam changed that perception. Didn't take genius fo figure that out. Expect more of this if the Big 12 does not go back to 12 teams and it doesn't make any difference it seems who those other two teams are as long as it lands us a Conference Championship game.

Not sure you can make that statement based on one year. Swap KState's and OU's records and rankings and Big XII gets 2 in over VaTech and the ACC. Suger decided to take VaTech over KState...and I don't blame them.

[Curly Bill]

I'm not wading into the argument again, but playoffs of any kind aren't better than the current system, they're only different.

[Breadburner]

Poke Choke caused this mess......:excitement:

[Sabanball]

I actually prefer the current system because more times than not the BCS has fulfilled its mission by ultimately matching the TWO BEST TEAMS, but for those of you in Big 12 country whining about the BCS you need to remember that the SEC DID propose something different and what would be a step closer to a true playoff system three years ago as noted above and your conference/Dan Beebe soundly rejected it.

[Lott's Bandana]

Your TWO BEST TEAMS already played.

Saban is a complete dickhead for comparing this to Pats/Giants, given his cup o' coffee in the League. Hey Nick, the Giants played to get there...in fact, so did LSU.

Your team was sitting home last weekend screaming SEC SEC SEC!

You cannot say which two teams are the best without them playing. It is all opinion, OPINION and foregoing aggy an opportunity to prove their worth is frankly, aggy-like.

It is a BCS Championship, nothing more. Don't call it a National Championship...ever.

[jkjsooner]

In the past, the Big Ten and Pac-12s preference to preserve the rivalry of its champions meeting when at all possible has been an obstacle for the concept of an expanded postseason format.

Sounds like it's about time to start a four team playoff with or without the Big 10 and Pac 12. We can call it Bowl Coalition Part 2.

When they have a contender get left out (i.e. Penn State) then they'll change their tune pretty quickly.


I absolutely loved it when PSU went undefeated and Nebraska won the title. In my eyes, even if PSU would have been the second coming of the Green Bay Packers they should not have been voted #1 as their conference chose not to play along with a #1 vs #2 matchup.

[TUSooner]

The BCS is telling the conferences and fans. "Your silly old conference champinships don't mean squat, FOOLS!"

[jkjsooner]

I actually prefer the current system because more times than not the BCS has fulfilled its mission by ultimately matching the TWO BEST TEAMS, but for those of you in Big 12 country whining about the BCS you need to remember that the SEC DID propose something different and what would be a step closer to a true playoff system three years ago as noted above and your conference/Dan Beebe soundly rejected it.

Why don't you just go away? Nobody here likes Dan Beebe one bit but it isn't your role to come onto our board and spout your anti-Big 12 B.S.

Seriously, man, I can't stand a single thing you post.

[soonercoop1]

Sorry Chuck the BCS can't be fixed...time for a playoff...