A proud moment in the senate.

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DREAM Act Goes Down in Flames in Senate



Published December 18, 2010

| FoxNews.com

Elizabeth Llorente/Fox News Latino

An immigration bill that would blaze a trail to legal status for hundreds of thousands of undocumented students went down in flames in the Senate on Saturday, delivering a critical blow to Democrats and Hispanic activists.

Even though the House approved the DREAM Act last week, the Senate fell five votes short of the 60 needed Saturday to advance the bill past Republican opposition.

President Obama said in a statement it was "incredibly disappointing" that Senate Republicans blocked the bill.




The DREAM Act, which opponents have decried as a "nightmare," is now likely to languish for years with Republicans taking back control of the House and picking up an additional handful of seats in the Senate next month.

Both sides, which have fought tooth and nail over the bill, immediately reacted to Saturday's vote.

"Now, the next Congress can start to put unemployed Americans back to work by eliminating the ability for illegal aliens to hold jobs and by reducing the number of unnecessary permanent foreign workers we currently bring in legally every month," said Roy Beck, president and founder of NumbersUSA.

Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, said, "It is deeply disappointing that the Senate today refused to even allow a vote on the bill."

House Democrats vowed the fight was not over.

"Though disappointed by the result of today's DREAM Act vote in the Senate, we are not deterred in our determination to continue advocating for this critical legislation," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a statement.

"Today we mourn, but tomorrow we shift back into gear to fight for justice and inclusion in America," said Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.

Many young illegal immigrants had been pressing Congress to pass the bill in public demonstrations, and going public with the fact they are in the country without permission in the hope that their stories would help them claim a legislative victory.

But opponents, led by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., insisted that the legislation is "backdoor amnesty" that encourages more people to come to the country illegally or overstay their time-limited visas. They also argued it rewards law breakers.

"This bill simply 'incentivizes' and rewards more illegality. And, if it passes, what principle would lawmakers cite to object to another amnesty, for another group, and another one after that?" Sessions, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, asked at a news release.

Meanwhile, immigration officers had already signaled that the bill's defeat would not change the way they do business.

Assistant Homeland Security Secretary John Morton said Friday in a conference call with reporters that immigration officers are unlikely to take extraordinary steps to arrest young people in the country illegally should the bill fail in the Senate.

Immigration officers will continue their focus on immigrants who have committed crimes or are a threat to the public, he said, adding that they will handle cases of non-criminal immigrants on a case-by-case basis.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/18/senate-tries-pass-dream-act/#ixzz1dn8OlHP6





It has been almost a year since Obama, Dems and a handful of repubs tried to cram this abomination upon the American people. Thank God it failed. There should be a National day of celebration...maybe an American Cinco de Mayo.

Bennett has already been canned. Now Lugar and Murkowski need to go.

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Old, but memorable nonetheless. And both regard attacks on the US.

Good choice!!!!!!

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I will toast to this one tonight......again. Well worth it.

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Then we have California....bankrupt in just about every way. But they can afford this:


Governor Brown Signs Second Half of California Dream Act



Published October 08, 2011


SACRAMENTO – Illegal immigrants can now apply for state-funded scholarships and aid at state universities after Gov. Jerry Brown announced Saturday that he has signed the second half of a legislative package focused on such students.

AB131 by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, is the second half of the California Dream Act. Brown signed the first half of the package in July, which approved private scholarships and loans for students who are illegal immigrants.

Under current law, illegal immigrant students who have graduated from a California high school and can prove they're on the path to legalize their immigration status can pay resident tuition rates. The bill would allow these students to apply for state aid.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/08/california-gov-brown-signs-bill-for-illegal-immigrant-student-aid/#ixzz1dnKiXFu7

What a great state!!!!!

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I know it's from back in October, but here goes:

I have heard that California state schools are increasingly depending on outta staters (because they pay more tuition, yes) with state budget cuts, so I am not sure how much this will benefit illegal immigrants. They still have to apply, they still have to be accepted and then they still have to face the same crap that every other family does when realizing how unaffordable college is regardless of what aid is made available (read: massive loans!).

It appears to put them on a level playing field with other California students, not giving an advantage to native born students. I am not sure this is such a bad thing, because California state schools are already among the most competitive in the country. It might not make one bit of difference. Or, as I mentioned above, it might put them at a disadvantage since they are now considered in-staters.

Here's an article on it from back in April:


SAN FRANCISCO — The University of California is looking for out-of-state solutions to its money problems.

Faced with sharp cuts in state funding, the 10-campus system is ramping up its campaign to recruit high-paying students from other states and countries, even as record numbers of California students seek a UC education.

For a second year, UC officials in April reported a significant increase in out-of-state and international students admitted for the coming fall term, with the biggest jumps at its most selective campuses in Berkeley, Los Angeles and San Diego. Accepted students must notify schools by May 1 if they plan to enroll.

UC charges students from outside California nearly $35,000 in annual tuition, about three times what state residents pay.

But the university's push to attract more nonresidents is fueling resentment among California students and families who have worked for years to gain admission to one of the country's top public university systems.

Kevin Arriola, a senior at Lincoln High School in San Francisco, says he's disappointed he was only accepted at one of the four UC campuses where he applied, Santa Cruz. He wonders whether he and his classmates were squeezed out by out-of-staters.

"It's probably a reason why a lot of students weren't able to get into UC schools," said Arriola, 17. "They're probably looking to find more students that are willing to pay more."

UC is not the only public university system trying to boost out-of-state enrollment as it grapples with rising costs and shrinking government support. Public universities in cash-strapped states such as Arizona, Texas and Washington have also announced plans to import more students.

While state colleges have been steadily expanding nonresident enrollment for years, the economic downturn has accelerated the trend, experts say.

"From a national perspective, it's almost a collective breach of the promise that states had made to their residents," said Barmak Nassirian, associate executive director at the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers. "It has become a fairly obvious reaction at public institutions that are attempting to cope with state budget cuts."

Flagship universities in states such as Vermont and Wisconsin have long recruited nonresidents because they're in slow-growth states that don't produce enough high-caliber students to fill their campuses.

But the University of California serves a state with a growing young population, plenty of highly qualified students and strong demand for higher education.

"We have huge educational demands in California," said Pat Callan, who heads the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education. "It gives the impression that the university is turning away from California because the bucks aren't here like they used to be."

UC stands to lose at least $500 million in state funding and possibly much more as California seeks to close another massive budget shortfall. The California State University system and California Community Colleges are also facing deep cuts.

Newly released UC data show that 18 percent of admitted students for fall 2011 were nonresidents, up from 14 percent last year and less than 12 percent two years ago. They made up 23 percent of admissions at San Diego, 30 percent at UCLA and 31 percent at Berkeley.

UC reported a slight increase in the number of California residents accepted to at least one of the UC campuses where they applied, but more were rejected by their first- and second-choice schools, and more were placed on wait lists.

Jane Suh said she's surprised her son Tyler, a top student and musician at Napa High School, didn't get accepted at Berkeley or UCLA. He's now considering private colleges in other states.

"I had really hoped that he would have gotten into UCLA or Cal so we would have that option if we didn't have the money to send him to private school," Suh said. "Because it's our school system, if our children want to go to it, they should have first-priority access."

Out-of-state students enroll at a lower rate than state residents so university officials expect them to make up less than the 10 percent UC-wide target recently set by school administrators. Currently, only about 6 percent of UC undergraduates are from outside California.

UC officials say out-of-state students increase campus diversity and bring in additional revenue that improves the quality of education for all students. Nonresidents still face a higher academic standard than residents, but not as high as they did before, said Pamela Burnett, interim director of undergraduate admissions.

"The out-of-state students are paying their own way, and there are seats those students can take advantage of," Burnett said. "We would be admitting more California residents if there was more state funding to admit them."

Gerna Benz, co-owner of the consulting group Bay Area College Planners, said he is seeing more high-achieving students rejected by UC campuses that may have accepted them a few years ago, leaving families angry and frustrated.

"They're exasperated," Benz said. "They feel it's not fair that their taxes aren't even enabling their students to get a public education."

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DREAM Act Remembered On Day Of The Dead


DENTON, Texas -- Juana Perez is a bilingual education major and the president of a campus organization that raises awareness about the federal DREAM Act, a bill that would enable certain undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors to apply for permanent residency.

She is also undocumented.

In honor of the Day of the Dead, a Mexican holiday on Nov. 1 that celebrates life and death, Perez dedicated an altar this week to the "Dreamers," those students unable attend college because they are undocumented. Her motto: "Education, not deportation."

The celebration of the holiday at the University of North Texas -- the fourth largest university in the state, with 36,000 students, including 5,000 Latinos -- echoed a growing sentiment among Latino students: immigrant children who succeed in school should be given a chance to repay the investment in their education.

Perez, a petite young woman brought to the U.S. by her parents from Mexico, placed crosses at the altar with the names of young people who died trying to cross the border into the United States. She lit candles in honor of "Dreamers" caught up in deportation proceedings, and those who have died in detention centers for lack of medical services.

"We never give up trying to educate others about the DREAM Act and how important it is," said Perez, adding that the proposed law would not only benefit Latinos but also young people of all nationalities.

The long-standing DREAM legislation, an un-passed bill that would grant some undocumented students legal status in return for two years of college or military service, has become a focal point of the heated immigration debate.

President Obama has expressed support for the DREAM Act and immigration reform, with the administration recently announcing a policy change that would spare many "Dreamers" from deportation as enforcement is focused on undocumented immigrants with criminal records, rather than young people or students. According to the policy, the administration has also begun reviewing more than 300,000 deportation proceedings to weed out the "low-priority" cases. Yet, the administration also recently released its latest deportation numbers, which showed a record number of nearly 400,000 deportations in fiscal year 2011, which ended in September.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, has supported undocumented students, signing a bill as governor that allowed undocumented immigrants who are Texas residents to obtain in-state tuition rates.

A crying shame.

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2012 Democrats stand by the DREAM Act

Amy Klobuchar, left, Maria Cantwell, center, and Bill Nelson aren't shying away from the DREAM Act. | AP Photo Close

Lugar, who was first elected to the Senate in 1974, blames President Barack Obama’s immigration speech Wednesday in El Paso, Texas.

“I think it’s unfortunate that President Obama gave what turned out to be, I believe, a very partisan speech on immigration. …” Lugar told POLITICO.


“I think President Obama has decided to make it a campaign issue and not a piece of legislation,” he added. “I think it’s killed off any possibility of immigration legislation this year because it will require both parties, and that’s not going to be available given the vibe that came from [Tuesday’s] speech.”

For pro-immigration activists, Lugar’s flip-flop is unforgivable.

“It’s disappointing that Dick Lugar, a defender of the DREAM Act and someone who’s been creative in finding smart solutions, wouldn’t be a co-sponsor on this bill,” Kelley said. “His record on this is done in Sharpie, not in pencil. If he’s trying to erase it, I’m not sure he’ll be successful.”

Speaking to supporters near the border in El Paso, Obama renewed his push for comprehensive immigration reform and chided Republicans for filibustering the DREAM Act in the lame-duck session.

“It was a tremendous disappointment to get so close and then see politics get in the way,” Obama said.

On a 55-41 vote, the Senate fell five votes short of overcoming the GOP filibuster. Five Democrats split from their party and voted no; Lugar and two other Republicans voted yes.

After Republicans took control of the House and picked up six Senate seats last fall, the DREAM Act faces almost no chance of passing either chamber in the next two years. Republicans have consistently dismissed Democrats’ push for the DREAM Act as little more as pandering to the party’s Hispanic base.

“It’s all a political exercise,” said Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl, a Republican from the border state of Arizona.

“I don’t know why anyone would expect a different result,” added Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a vocal critic of the DREAM Act. “I assume it’s all politics.”

At a Capitol Hill news conference Wednesday, Reid gave no time line for when he plans to bring the DREAM Act to the floor, nor did he really outline a strategy for getting to the magical number of 60 votes. In what amounts to a legislative Hail Mary, Reid said he hopes Republicans who have backed the legislation in the past will get behind this latest effort.

“I am someone who maintains the faith,” Reid said.

To be eligible under the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, applicants must have come to the country before age 15; have lived in the U.S. for at least five years; have obtained a high school degree or GED equivalent; and have attended college or serve in the military for at least two years.

“This is not just a piece of legislation. This is a matter of justice,” said Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the chief sponsor of the bill. “The fundamental premise of the DREAM Act is that you should not punish children for the actions of their parents.”

Correction: 14 Democratic senators up for reelection voted for the DREAM Act in December


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54833_Page2.html#ixzz1dnQDSK5V

Old Dick has a strange sense of justice...one that rewards people for being here illegally.

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The Fight to Keep DREAM Act Referendum on 2012 Ballot in MD
by Tom Fitton

Here we are smack dab in the middle of a terrible economy and a massive budget crunch, and public officials still insist on wasting taxpayer dollars on perks for illegal aliens. This includes using taxpayer money to pay for discounted tuition for illegal aliens. Judicial Watch has taken a leadership role in the effort to put a stop to this unlawful and wasteful practice.



That effort continued this week as we filed a “Motion to Intervene” on behalf of MDPetitions.com, the organization that sponsored the petition drive to place the Maryland DREAM Act on the ballot for the November 2012 elections. We filed the Motion in response to a lawsuit that seeks to deny voters an up-or-down vote on the Maryland DREAM Act. The chairman of MDPetitions.com is Maryland Assembly Delegate Neil Parrott of Washington County; Delegate Patrick McDonough of Baltimore and Harford Counties is its honorary chairman.

By way of review, the DREAM Act was enacted by the Maryland General Assembly and signed by Governor Martin O’Malley on May 10, 2011. The law creates a new taxpayer-subsidized public benefit – the ability to pay reduced tuition rates at Maryland community colleges and public higher education institutions – for certain eligible illegal aliens. The petition drive was perhaps the most successful in Maryland history. The drive collected nearly twice the amount of signatures required by law to put the new benefit to voters in a referendum.

As Judicial Watch lawyers stated in MDPetitions.com’s filing:




As the sponsor of this overwhelmingly successful petition, MDPetitions.com obviously has a compelling interest in ensuring that voters across the State of Maryland have the opportunity to vote on the Maryland DREAM Act in the November 2012 election.

MDPetitions.com represents not only its leaders and organizers and the hundreds of volunteers who worked to make the successful petition possible, but also the 108,923 confirmed registered voters who signed the petition in the exercise of their rights under Article XVI, Section 2 of the Maryland Constitution. In addition, as the creator of a web-based computer program that as many as 28,860 confirmed registered voters used to generate, print, sign, and mail in clear and accurate petition pages, MDPetitions.com has a unique interest in preserving the availability of this…tool for use by registered voters in future petition drives. MDPetitions.com seeks intervention… to protect these…interests against the unfounded allegations of the [lawsuit]…

Illegals don't want the people to vote on the Maryland Dream Act...I wonder why?

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In 2012, The DREAM Act Will Be a Major Electoral Issue in the Latino Community

As I was coming off the plane from Indiana this weekend, a Latina flight attended tabbed my “I support the DREAM Act” pin and said “me too.” Two years ago, I would have been surprised that someone I didn’t know would recognize my DREAM Act pin and express their support. However, last year changed everything! Last year was a defining moment for Latinos all across the US. Although, like many other American’s the issues of jobs and the economy were on the top of Latino’s list of priorities, immigration is a defining issue.

In November, I saw first-hand how Harry Reid won his re-election in Nevada. As I knocked on doors encouraging people to go out to vote, I witnessed Latinos families going together to the polls in unprecedented numbers. I remember one man telling me, he had voted early because he wanted to make sure, Sharron Angle didn’t win, “that lady is against us” he affirmed.

The DREAM Act and the term DREAMers became daily household topics of discussion. With actions like the Trail of DREAMs , a walk from Miami to DC, sit-ins in Arizona Republican Senator McCain’s office, to a hunger strike outside New York Democrat Chuck Schumer, all brought much attention to an issue the Latino community knew and care about for many years.

December 18, 2010, was a very defining moment in the minds of immigrant youth and the Latino community. Saturday programming from the two largest Spanish-speaking channels were interrupted to provide live coverage of the DREAM Act vote. The eyes of the Latino community witnessed how each Senator voted on the hopes and future of millions of immigrant undocumented Americans, the majority of which happen to be Latino.

Now as the 2012 elections approach, it’s that the DREAM Act is a major issue in the Latino community. The latest poll from Impremedia and Latino Decisions confirms our belief. This week, we saw the new numbers in a post titled, Why the DREAM Act will matter in the 2012 election:

Looking to 2012, it is clear that immigration and the DREAM Act will still be on the minds of Latino voters. As a recap, 60% said immigration was one of the most important issues in the 2010 election, and 47% said it was the top issue in February 2011 – more than any other issue. Not surprisingly, support for the DREAM Act is strongest, indeed almost universal, among those who say they will vote for Obama in 2012. We broke out support for the DREAM Act by intended vote choice in 2012 and found regardless of how Latinos will vote, a very strong majority support the DREAM Act. Among Obama voters, 79% strongly support and 14% somewhat support the DREAM Act – that’s 93% support for seeing this bill passed among the President’s Latino base. Further, among those who say they are undecided 62% strongly support DREAM with 23% somewhat support, all told 85% in favor. Even among those who plan to vote for a GOP candidate in 2012, Republican contenders should take note, that Republican leaning Latinos also supported the DREAM Act by a big margin: 52% strongly support and 23% somewhat support, totaling to 75% approval of the bill.

The next couple of years will be interesting, as the elections will no longer be based on future promises but, rather, the performance of current times. And. as the Latino Decision poll report indicates, “the lack of progress on immigration may be hurting opinions of the Democrats, not just Republicans.”

So if you are against illegal immigration you are against Latinos. No political blackmail at all.

And, not surprisingly, most latinos support illegal immigration. Shocking!!!!

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Dream Act has become political nightmare for Perry

Posted on September 28, 2011 at 7:54 pm by Patricia Kilday Hart in Campaign 2012, Gov. Rick Perry, Immigration


Students from across Texas held a Dream Act rally in College Station in April. (Brett Coomer / Houston Chronicle)

AUSTIN — When Loren Campos received his engineering degree from the University of Texas at Austin in May, it was the culmination of hard work that began at Houston’s Booker T. Washington High School’s engineering magnet program, where he took honors and advanced placement courses to prepare for college.

The son of an illegal immigrant, Campos was able to afford UT only because Gov. Rick Perry in 2001 signed legislation offering in-state college tuition to undocumented students who attend Texas high schools for at least three years and apply to become U.S. citizens.

“This was an earned opportunity, not a free ride,” said Campos, who came to the United States when he was 11. Now applying for admission to a master’s in structural engineering program, he added, “The students who take advantage of this law are top-notch. This is good public policy, and we are going to give back to this state.”

Campos and some 16,000 other students like him are at the center of a firestorm raging in the Republican Party presidential nomination contest, where Perry’s support of the so-called Texas Dream Act has landed him in hot water with conservatives.

Perry has been pummeled in the recent Republican debates by his opponents, with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney charging that Perry created an inducement for illegal immigration by offering what amounts to a $100,000 break on four years of tuition at UT. In an indication that the issue has become a hot-button topic, Lt. Gov. David

Dewhurst, a Perry ally, told Dallas television station WFAA this week that he would not have signed the law if he had been governor.

Of the 16,000 students who take advantage of the in-state tuition policy, about 12,000 of them attend community college.

Perry on Monday night held a conference call with Iowa Republicans to address mounting uneasiness among his supporters that the issue will hurt his quest for the presidency.

“He definitely made an effort to smooth concerns,” said Craig Robinson, former political director of the Iowa Republican Party and now editor of a conservative online news outlet. Noting that the Iowa Legislature rejected a similar policy in 2004, Robinson said Perry’s position could make it “difficult for him to hold a coalition” in the state’s crucial caucuses.

Hope Perry continues to suffer.

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I just got my most recent issue of The Economist (reading it makes you feel smarter, hehe) and one of the articles on the political landscape was that Obama is largely relying on young voters, minority voters and young, educated professionals who helped him win a few states that Dems previously thought were Republican strongholds in 2008.

However, it also notes that relying on such voters now is not a good idea, as working class whites are a much larger, more reliable (read: they actually cast votes on election day) voting base in swing states.

Unfortunately for Obama, minorities are still, well, in the minority. Thus, courting them will only get you about 20 percent of the vote in Virginia. However, by 2060, their voting base will be much larger and Republicans need to start reaching out to them now. There is common ground, they just need to find it.

If young people actually got their arses to the voting booth, Obama wouldn't be down in so many polls right now and higher education loan issues might actually be a key issue in this presidential election.

Minorities vote. Republicans have got to do more to reach out to them, not necessarily through the DREAM act, but again, FIND COMMON GROUND!

[okie52]

I just got my most recent issue of The Economist (reading it makes you feel smarter, hehe) and one of the articles on the political landscape was that Obama is largely relying on young voters, minority voters and young, educated professionals who helped him win a few states that Dems previously thought were Republican strongholds in 2008.

However, it also notes that relying on such voters now is not a good idea, as working class whites are a much larger, more reliable (read: they actually cast votes on election day) voting base in swing states.

Unfortunately for Obama, minorities are still, well, in the minority. Thus, courting them will only get you about 20 percent of the vote in Virginia. However, by 2060, their voting base will be much larger and Republicans need to start reaching out to them now. There is common ground, they just need to find it.

If young people actually got their arses to the voting booth, Obama wouldn't be down in so many polls right now and higher education loan issues might actually be a key issue in this presidential election.

Minorities vote. Republicans have got to do more to reach out to them, not necessarily through the DREAM act, but again, FIND COMMON GROUND!

If supporting illegal immigration is necessary to get the latino vote then screw them and, as of right now, that is what it amounts to. Better to go down fighting than sell out the country like some are willing to do now just to get the Latino vote.

Now if there is another avenue where Latino citizens can be embraced on something that is actually good for this country then by all means the repubs should do it.

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If supporting illegal immigration is necessary to get the latino vote then screw them and, as of right now, that is what it amounts to. Better to go down fighting than sell out the country like some are willing to do now just to get the Latino vote.

Now if there is another avenue where Latino citizens can be embraced on something that is actually good for this country then by all means the repubs should do it.

I don't endorse the "screw them" route no matter the issue :)

There are tons of Hispanic Republicans in Texas, which probably shocks national liberals, but it's true. That is how I know there is common ground. A lot of second, third, fourth, etc. generation Hispanics in the south (namely Texas) do not have the same political ideologies and first-generation immigrants, so to characterize all Latinos as supporters of Democratic ideals, including the DREAM Act, is far from the truth.

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I don't endorse the "screw them" route no matter the issue :)

There are tons of Hispanic Republicans in Texas, which probably shocks national liberals, but it's true. That is how I know there is common ground. A lot of second, third, fourth, etc. generation Hispanics in the south (namely Texas) do not have the same political ideologies and first-generation immigrants, so to characterize all Latinos as supporters of Democratic ideals, including the DREAM Act, is far from the truth.

I say screw any group that thinks we ought to take on 10% of the Mexican population regardless of the harm to this country. I think there are plenty of conservative Latinos...just not on illegal immigration and they appear to be willing to let that one issue override other issues in their voting priorities. And, when they vote that way they are saying screw you and the US.

Most latinos support the dream act. Latinos are probably more in line with the repubs in a lot of areas than they are with the dems but illegal immigration isn't one of them. Now 40-50 years from now if the immigration issue has gone away they may find themselves solidly in the repub camp but that is a lot of time to pay blackmail.

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And, in other old news from Kal-e-fo-Knee-A...

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