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TopDawg
11/7/2011, 03:48 PM
Well, it's already that time again. We can track them here.

Akron
Old Coach - Rob Ianello (fired after 2nd season)
Rumored Leading Candidates - Joe Moorhead (Connecticut quarterbacks coach), Paul Winters (Wayne State head coach), Mike Johnson (UCLA interim head coach and offensive coordinator)

Arizona
Old Coach - Mike Stoops (fired in midst of 8th season)
New Coach - Rich Rodriguez (former Michigan head coach)

Arizona State
Old Coach - Dennis Erickson (resigning after 5 years)
Rumored Leading Candidates - Dan Cozzetto (Washington offensive line coach)

Arkansas State
Old Coach - Hugh Freeze (new Mississippi head coach)
New Coach - Gus Malzahn (Auburn offensive coordinator)

Colorado State
Old Coach - Steve Fairchild (fired after 4 seasons)
New Coach - Jim McElwain (Alabama offensive coordinator)

Florida Atlantic
Old Coach - Howard Schnellenberger (retiring after 10 seasons)
New Coach - Carl Pelini (former Nebraska defensive coordinator)

Fresno State
Old Coach - Pat Hill (fired after 15 seasons)
New Coach - Tim DeRuyter (former Texas A&M defensive coordinator)

Hawaii
Old Coach - Greg McMackin (retiring after 4 years as head coach)
Rumored Leading Candidates - Rich Miano (interim head coach)

Houston
Old Coach - Kevin Sumlin (new Texas A&M head coach)
Rumored Leading Candidates -

Illinois
Old Coach - Ron Zook (fired after seven seasons)
New Coach - Tim Beckman (former Toledo head coach)

Kansas
Old Coach - Turner Gill (fired after 2nd season)
New Coach - Charlie Weis (former Florida offensive coordinator)

Memphis
Old Coach - Larry Porter (fired after 2nd season)
New Coach - Justin Fuente (former TCU co-offensive coordinator)

Mississippi
Old Coach - Houston Nutt (will resign at end of season, his 4th and Ole Miss)
New Coach - Hugh Freeze (former Arkansas State head coach)

New Mexico
Old Coach - Mike Locksley (fired in midst of 3rd season)
New Coach - Bob Davie (former Notre Dame head coach)

North Carolina
Old Coach - Butch Davis/Everett Withers
New Coach - Larry Fedora (former Southern Miss head coach)

Ohio State
Old Coach - Luke Fickell (finished his interim appointment)
New Coach - Urban Meyer (former Florida head coach)

Penn State
Old Coach - Joe Paterno (fired in midst of bajillionth season)
Rumored Leading Candidates - Mike Pettine Jr. (Jets defensive coordinator), Dan Mullen (Mississippi State head coach)

Southern Mississippi
Old Coach - Larry Fedora (new North Carolina head coach)
Rumored Leading Candidates -

Texas A&M
Old Coach - Mike Sherman (fired after 4 years)
New Coach - Kevin Sumlin (Houston head coach)

Toledo
Old Coach - Tim Beckman (new Illinois coach)
New Coach - Matt Campbell (promoted from offensive coordinator)

Tulane
Old Coach - Bob Toledo (fired in midst of 5th season)
New Coach - Curtis Johnson (Saints receivers coach)

UAB
Old Coach - Neil Callaway (fired after 5th season)
New Coach - Garrick McGee (former Arkansas offensive coordinator)

UCLA
Old Coach - Rick Neuheisel (fired after 4 seasons)
New Coach - Jim Mora Jr. (former Seahawks head coach)

Washington State
Old Coach - Paul Wulff (fired after 4 seasons)
New Coach - Mike Leach (former Texas Tech head coach)

NOVSooner
11/7/2011, 03:50 PM
Well, it's already that time again. We can track them here.

Mississippi
Old Coach - Houston Nutt (will resign at end of season, his 4th and Ole Miss)
Rumored Leading Candidates -


leading candidates: kirby smart, malzahn, sumlin are 3 names tossed around.

oumartin
11/7/2011, 04:00 PM
Sumlin should be in line for some big time gigs.

OklahomaTuba
11/7/2011, 04:48 PM
I really hope Penn State makes this list....

badger
11/7/2011, 04:52 PM
Don't forget Zona canning Mike :mad:

Also, New Mexico canned Locksley

TopDawg
11/7/2011, 05:25 PM
Oh yeah. Wow. Completely forgot about Mike. (Stoops, not Locksley).

SoonerStud615
11/7/2011, 05:29 PM
Headline: Nutt Sacked!

stoops the eternal pimp
11/7/2011, 05:29 PM
One of my favorite threads of the year

Vegas Sooner
11/7/2011, 06:25 PM
UCLA hopes the Rick keeps sucking it.

Leach needs to stop his lawsuit and got to the pac-12.

badger
11/7/2011, 06:27 PM
If you want to go REALLY far back, you could also include UNC's Butch Davis and tOSU's Jim Tressel as they were technically forced out this season, even though the season hadn't technically started.

OUinFLA
11/7/2011, 06:41 PM
If you want to go REALLY far back, you could also include UNC's Butch Davis and tOSU's Jim Tressel as they were technically forced out this season, even though the season hadn't technically started.

You're very technical tonight

ouleaf
11/7/2011, 06:44 PM
Hasn't Leach been rumored for the Arizona and New Mexico jobs?

badger
11/7/2011, 06:54 PM
Hasn't Leach been rumored for the Arizona and New Mexico jobs?

He's been rumored for every job, whether it's open or not. Fans covet him. Hell, I want him back in coaching and he ruined a few of our seasons when he was at Tech! :mad:

AlbqSooner
11/7/2011, 08:39 PM
One of the leading candidates to replace Locksley as the UNM football coach is rumored to be Kelvin Sampson.(insert winky here)

OUmillenium
11/7/2011, 09:00 PM
Leading candidates for all openings...Brent Venables!!! :uncomfortableness:

oksoonerdave
11/7/2011, 09:25 PM
Leading candidates for all openings...Brent Venables!!! :uncomfortableness:

And Mike Stoops as his replacement

Football Jim
11/7/2011, 11:01 PM
Headline: Nutt Sacked!

LMAO I love this board!

OUHOMER
11/7/2011, 11:09 PM
Might have to add Joe Pa, hes taking some moral heat......

swardboy
11/7/2011, 11:20 PM
The skeptic in me wonders if the scandal at PU isn't the reason Joe Pa never retired. Cover up conspiracy you know....

possumfat
11/8/2011, 08:28 AM
HIRE VENABLES!

TopDawg
11/14/2011, 10:35 AM
Updated.

Is it just me, or have we had several more mid-season firings than in recent years?

delhalew
11/14/2011, 10:43 AM
Updated.

Is it just me, or have we had several more mid-season firings than in recent years?

You're right. I would wager the average for most years is between one and two mid-season firings.

Jason Alexander
11/14/2011, 11:31 AM
Sumlin will go to aTm after Sherman is canned

sooneredaco
11/14/2011, 11:37 AM
Is this Sherman's last year?

Jason Alexander
11/14/2011, 08:15 PM
No but the aggies cant expect the Shermanator to lead them into the SEC.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/pictures/13695.jpg

sooneron
11/14/2011, 09:12 PM
I still think Schiano will go to PSU to commence the "healing".

toast
11/14/2011, 10:23 PM
Rich Rod has interviewed at Tulane

sooneron
11/14/2011, 10:27 PM
I could also see ol **** taking a look at RR.

badger
11/16/2011, 02:35 PM
New Mexico hired Davie... ok...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7242433/bob-davie-new-mexico-lobos-coach

badger
11/16/2011, 02:38 PM
Also, Zooker looks like he's in trouble, hehe:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/story/_/id/7238482/ron-zook-illinois-fighting-illini-ends-news-conference-job-question

Dan Thompson
11/16/2011, 02:40 PM
I'm glad Davie got the job, now we don't have to listen to him on ESPN.

NMSooner'80
11/16/2011, 02:42 PM
By Joe Schad
ESPN
Archive Former Notre Dame coach Bob Davie will be introduced Thursday as New Mexico's coach.

School vice president of athletics Paul Krebs announced the appointment Wednesday. Davie, who is a college football analyst for ESPN, will become the school's 31st coach.

He replaces Mike Locksley, who was fired in late September after going 2-26 in two-plus seasons.


Davie was head coach at Notre Dame from 1997 to 2001 and defensive coordinator with the Fighting Irish from 1994 to 1996.


Davie also has been defensive coordinator at Texas A&M and Tulane.

Davie was 35-25 as head coach of the Irish, and took them to three bowl games, including the 2001 Fiesta Bowl.

Joe Schad covers college football for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

LVSOONER15
11/16/2011, 03:13 PM
It will be fun to see how Davie does at UNM. I'd like to see UNM have some success since I am from there.

badger
11/16/2011, 03:14 PM
It will be fun to see how Davie does at UNM. I'd like to see UNM have some success since I am from there.

If they were remotely more successful, they would have gotten Big 12 consideration. It's not like New Mexico is that far away from Texas! Gawwwww, why do you have to suck at football, Lobos?

madillsoonerfan5353
11/16/2011, 03:19 PM
I'm glad Davie got the job, now we don't have to listen to him on ESPN.

^^^^^THIS x 99999999999999999909809809980989809089809898980950 9896590089659809595099999999999999999Times! Him and Pusburger have got to be the worst Espin has to offer!

SoonerTerry
11/16/2011, 03:23 PM
Headline: Nutt Sacked!

I just wish Nutt would get caught in some minor infraction so I could see the headline "NCAA Busts NUTT"

LVSOONER15
11/16/2011, 03:32 PM
I just wish Nutt would get caught in some minor infraction so I could see the headline "NCAA Busts NUTT"

Hahaha

Jason Alexander
11/16/2011, 06:06 PM
If they were remotely more successful, they would have gotten Big 12 consideration. It's not like New Mexico is that far away from Texas! Gawwwww, why do you have to suck at football, Lobos?

Although football is the deciding factor, UNM would fit in the Big XII well as a basketball school.

TopDawg
11/21/2011, 05:44 PM
I know this isn't breaking news, but rumor has it that Rich Rod will be announced as the new Arizona coach and there's other stuff swirling about Urban at Ohio State. I'll update tomorrow.

I know Urban is a hot prospect, but I wonder why Ohio State would "settle" for someone so wishy-washy on whether or not they actually wanted to be a coach. Seems like lots of schools could use that against him in recruiting.

NormanPride
11/27/2011, 12:13 PM
You can add Mem-pis to the master list:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7286429/memphis-tigers-fire-coach-larry-porter-2-10-season

NormanPride
11/27/2011, 12:15 PM
And yeah - Rich Rod is official. They've had a presser and all.

You should probably also add Ohio State and North Carolina to the list. They got rid of sweater vest and Butch before the season but I doubt the interims are gonna keep their jobs.

With Illinoiz losing to Minny, I fully expect Ron Zooker to get the boot.

Sabanball
11/27/2011, 03:04 PM
Neil Calloway is officially out at UAB, per Fox 6 in Birmingham this afternoon. No surprise and was expected.

Ole Miss is reportedly interested in Kirby Smart, but with him already making good bank as a coordinator I don't think it's automatic that he would take it. Both he and his wife are Georgia grads and supposedly want to land eventually in Athens(if they ever get rid of Mark Richt).

8timechamps
11/27/2011, 03:08 PM
Neil Calloway is officially out at UAB, per Fox 6 in Birmingham this afternoon. No surprise and was expected.

Ole Miss is reportedly interested in Kirby Smart, but with him already making good bank as a coordinator I don't think it's automatic that he would take it. Both he and his wife are Georgia grads and supposedly want to land eventually in Athens(if they ever get rid of Mark Richt).

Richt has perfected the art of living on the hot seat. I could see the guy being at UGA for a long time.

Johnny Utah
11/27/2011, 03:15 PM
Richt has perfected the art of living on the hot seat. I could see the guy being at UGA for a long time.

He sure has and for pretty good reason ... the in-state talent he has to recruit from should have UGA in the MNC hunt every year. There are 3 players in the NFL from my sons' high school in the northern Atlanta suburbs and I challenge anybody to name the school (without a lot of research).

Sabanball
11/27/2011, 03:21 PM
He sure has and for pretty good reason ... the in-state talent he has to recruit from should have UGA in the MNC hunt every year. There are 3 players in the NFL from my sons' high school in the northern Atlanta suburbs and I challenge anybody to name the school (without a lot of research).

He gets good talent but Saban has made huge inroads into the metro ATL area the last few years and stolen a lot of this talent right out from under Richt's nose. With the exception of Ike Crowell Bama has gotten the top player in that state three years in a row. Robert Nkimdiche(sp?), the top player in the state for the 2013 class is an example--he is an early lean to Bama. Also, Georgia fans seem to be satisfied with mediocrity so I agree they may end up holding onto MR for some time.

Johnny Utah
11/27/2011, 03:31 PM
Also, Georgia fans seem to be satisfied with mediocrity so I agree they may end up holding onto MR for some time.

Good points ... I should have learned that by living there for 11 years!

StoopTroup
11/27/2011, 03:42 PM
I hear Texas has been talking with Joe Paterno. They are looking for someone with new ideas.

SoonerKnight
11/27/2011, 03:46 PM
I hear Texas has been talking with Joe Paterno. They are looking for someone with new ideas.

You sir know a bad joke!! LOL! Nice!

Jacie
11/27/2011, 04:01 PM
With Illinoiz losing to Minny, I fully expect Ron Zooker to get the boot.

It's official, Ron's gone.

Illinois fires Zook after 0-6 collapse

By DAVID MERCER, Associated Press
48 minutes ago

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (AP)—Illinois coach Ron Zook was fired Sunday after the Illini followed a 6-0 start to this season with a six-game losing streak.

Zook and the Illini finished off their collapse with a 27-7 defeat at Minnesota on Saturday.

“I believe we need new leadership to take the program to the level to compete for championships on a consistent basis,” Illinois Athletic Director Mike Thomas said in a statement released by the university. “This is an extremely competitive conference, and we are determined to go head-to-head with the very best.”

Thomas said the defensive coordinator Vic Koenning will take over as interim head coach while a search begins for Zook’s successor.

Zook wasn’t immediately available for comment but planned a press conference for late Sunday afternoon.

Zook finished 34-51 at Illinois. He took the 2007 team to the Rose Bowl and lost to USC. Last season’s squad beat Baylor in the Texas Bowl.

With six wins the Illini could still go to a bowl game. It would be their first back-to-back bowl appearances since 1991 and ’92.

Zook came to Illinois in 2005 after being fired in his third season at Florida. He replaced Ron Turner, now an Indianapolis Colts assistant coach.

The 2007 season was Zook’s high point at Illinois. The Illini were Big Ten runners-up and upset an undefeated Ohio State team in Columbus that was shooting for a perfect season and a national title.

But only two of Zook’s Illinois teams finished with winning records, 2007’s 9-4 squad and last year’s 7-6 Texas Bowl team.

Thomas praised Zook for the elevating Illinois—Zook took over after Turner produced four losing seasons in five years. But Thomas, who became AD just last summer, also alluded to Zook’s uneven tenure at Illinois.

“It is imperative that our program shows some consistency and competes for championships, and I think a change in coaches can help us get there sooner. I wasn’t here seven years ago when Ron Zook took over as coach, but it’s clear the program is in better shape than what he inherited.”

As word of his firing spread, some of Zook’s former players used social media to support their former coach.

“Zook was a good coach and Man,” former Illini quarterback and current Oakland Raiders receiver Eddie McGee wrote on Twitter. “Great person who believed in his players. Would do anything for them. If you played for him you know that.”

“I still love him as a coach and as a father figure,” current Illini tailback Jason Ford wrote.

Zook went 2-9 in his first season at Illinois but Illini fans had the promise of better times ahead. Known as an extraordinary recruiter, Zook’s first signing class included highly regarded Chicago quarterback Juice Williams, who started most of the next four seasons.

After another two-win year—Williams’ freshman season—Zook and the Illini delivered on that promise with the trip to the Rose Bowl. Illinois was blown out in Pasadena, 49-17 by USC, but fans thought good times were on the horizon.

Illinois followed up that surprisingly good season, though, with two bad ones, defying high expectations to go 5-7 and, in 2009, 3-9. Zook kept his job amid speculation that he wouldn’t, but was forced to fire virtually his entire staff and hire offensive coordinator Paul Petrino and Koenning. With their help Illinois went 7-6 in 2010.

This season, though, left fans with even deeper doubts.

Illinois took advantage of an early schedule that included five home dates and opponents such as Arkansas State and South Dakota State to roll to 6-0. Then came the losses.

While the defense mostly held up well the offense struggled. Illinois at one point went three games without scoring a first-half point. The Illini averaged less than 15 points a game through the losing streak after putting almost 35 a game through the unbeaten start.

And Illinois’ special teams—a point of emphasis for Zook, who has been an NFL special teams coach—were often bad. The Illini were last in the Big Ten this season in both kickoff and punt returns and near the bottom of the conference in both kickoff and punt coverage.

Zook brought both that NFL pedigree and the reputation as a tireless worker and recruiter to Illinois.

He peppered his press conferences with references to coaches like Steve Spurrier with whom he’d worked, and once told a reporter, “Can you imagine how much you could get done if you didn’t have to eat or sleep?”

But he also brought baggage with him from Florida.

Gator fans were never sold on him as the replacement for Spurrier.

Zook won in each of his three seasons in Gainesville, but never enough, going 8-5, 8-5 and 7-4.

And he had the distinction of being perhaps the first target of a serious Internet campaign to fire a coach. The Web site Fireronzook.com went up shortly after he got the job. He also reportedly got into a shouting match during the 2004 season on the Florida campus with members of a fraternity after a fight between them and some of his players.

12
11/27/2011, 05:50 PM
Turner Gill is out at KU. Not much shock factor there.

8timechamps
11/27/2011, 05:52 PM
Turner Gill is out at KU. Not much shock factor there.

No shock. I like Gil, seems like a really good person...but as a coach, maybe not so much.

oumartin
11/27/2011, 06:05 PM
I'd sure hate to lose Brent to one of those schools..

MamaMia
11/27/2011, 06:17 PM
Sumlin will go to aTm after Sherman is cannedWhy would they not offer Venables?

soonerloyal
11/27/2011, 06:24 PM
Turner Gill is out at KU. Not much shock factor there.

First Mangino, then Gill. KU deserves to be (and stay) the conference cellar dweller for a long, long time. Idjits.

MountainOkie
11/27/2011, 06:36 PM
First Mangino, then Gill. KU deserves to be (and stay) the conference cellar dweller for a long, long time. Idjits.

This times 100.

nighttrain12
11/27/2011, 06:41 PM
First Mangino, then Gill. KU deserves to be (and stay) the conference cellar dweller for a long, long time. Idjits.

Gill deserved to be fired with only 5 wins in 2 seasons. You can't convince me Mangino left the program in such a sorry state that his successor could only win 5 times in 24 games. Plus he gets a 6 million buyout so absolutely no reason to feel sorry for him.

northspeter
11/27/2011, 07:09 PM
reports are Illinois is very interested in Venables...

oumartin
11/27/2011, 07:11 PM
reports are Illinois is very interested in Venables...


oh please say it isn't so..... :(

northspeter
11/27/2011, 07:31 PM
also seeing Sumlin to Arizona St. and Belotti to UCLA... via George Schroeder on twitter...

oumartin
11/27/2011, 07:43 PM
sumlin be a fool to take that job

MountainOkie
11/27/2011, 07:53 PM
sumlin be a fool to take that job

Why? It seems like a nice place to live and the program ain't horrible...

C&CDean
11/27/2011, 08:03 PM
Who's gonna replace Venables marty? That's right, you haven't looked that far ahead.

When V leaves, it'll be for the right job. eATMe ain't it.

oumartin
11/27/2011, 08:14 PM
I'd throw all the money needed to get that LSU d coordinater. Chavez(sp)

So, why don't you shut your dumb@ss mouth Dean, quit stalking me and go bug somebody else..

Jesus your sh!t is old..

8timechamps
11/27/2011, 08:25 PM
I'd throw all the money needed to get that LSU d coordinater. Chavez(sp)

So, why don't you shut your dumb@ss mouth Dean, quit stalking me and go bug somebody else..

Jesus your sh!t is old..

His **** is old? Pot....Kettle

oumartin
11/27/2011, 08:29 PM
His **** is old? Pot....Kettle

sure, I may wear out my hatred of Venables but Dean is just a dipsh!t.

I've talked to him via pm to try and bury the hatchet and put things in the past and he just has to keep going back and bringing **** up.

I'm sick of his sh!t.

If he wants to ban me fine but f@ck him.



I'm sure he'll come spout off like he always does and that's fine but he's a world class POS and I'm done.


I've moved on in my life but I'll bet you anything he comes back with some crap that i've talked to him about because he is such a POS. It's all he knows how to do..

Johnny Utah
11/27/2011, 08:39 PM
sure, I may wear out my hatred of Venables but Dean is just a dipsh!t.

I've talked to him via pm to try and bury the hatchet and put things in the past and he just has to keep going back and bringing **** up.

I'm sick of his sh!t.

If he wants to ban me fine but f@ck him.



I'm sure he'll come spout off like he always does and that's fine but he's a world class POS and I'm done.


I've moved on in my life but I'll bet you anything he comes back with some crap that i've talked to him about because he is such a POS. It's all he knows how to do..

how do you really feel? :biggrin:

northspeter
11/27/2011, 08:47 PM
If he wants to ban me fine butt f@ck him.



with all the allegations going around... there's no need for this talk... besides, that appears to be a northeast thing...

agoo758
11/27/2011, 09:02 PM
Turner Gill has been fired.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/27/3288990/ku-fires-football-coach-turner.html

nighttrain12
11/27/2011, 09:19 PM
Turner Gill has been fired.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/27/3288990/ku-fires-football-coach-turner.html

They should hire Mangino back!

StoopTroup
11/27/2011, 10:03 PM
Who's gonna replace Venables marty? That's right, you haven't looked that far ahead.

When V leaves, it'll be for the right job. eATMe ain't it.


I don't think Marty is the only one that doesn't think ahead.

Is he dating Mama?

oumartin
11/27/2011, 10:05 PM
I don't think Marty is the only one that doesn't think ahead.

Is he dating Mama?


I don't like you either.

Go pop some more pain meds..

StoopTroup
11/27/2011, 10:08 PM
I'm sick of his sh!t.

I'm sick of yours but please....don't PM me. I've moved on. If you need a good Deal on an LSU MNC Shirt let me know. I have a Cousin who went there and he'll probably send me one just to see if I'll send him a picture of me wearing it.

I'll gladly mail it to you if you are gonna flip and Beaux Tigre!

StoopTroup
11/27/2011, 10:10 PM
I don't like you either.

Go pop some more pain meds.. You seem to have a vast knowledge of Drug abuse. I'm sure your years at medical School were as valuable as the experience you had Coaching winning Div 1A Defenses.

BB37
11/27/2011, 10:19 PM
AP reporting Dennis Erickson is out at ASU.

http://m.newsok.com/s?s=16&a=321387&f=sports

northspeter
11/27/2011, 10:25 PM
reports are leach is on a plane leaving the keys headed to lawrence...

oumartin
11/27/2011, 10:27 PM
AP reporting Dennis Erickson is out at ASU.

http://m.newsok.com/s?s=16&a=321387&f=sports



I'd like to see them go after Mike Gundy.. His skin tone goes good with that area.


Lots of job openings... Wonder if any of the former OU qb's that are now coordinators will get any looks. Fuentes, Mcghee, Littrell.

BB37
11/27/2011, 10:35 PM
reports are leach is on a plane leaving the keys headed to lawrence...

Despite the sarcasm warning, I hope Leach isn't that desperate.

StoopTroup
11/27/2011, 10:39 PM
Penn State will be wishing they could have got Mike Leach in a Couple of years.

agoo758
11/27/2011, 10:43 PM
Nuehseisel, Erickson, and Wullf likely to be out. Things are moving quickly.

badger
11/28/2011, 09:10 AM
Back from vacation so no longer posting as NP! :D

The firing of KU's Gill stuns me, not because there wasn't the losing and the ineptitude, but because it has been well documented that there was no buyout in the 5-year, $10 mil deal.

Does that mean that KU found another finger poking, "homie" incident to fire "with cause," or does this is mean KU is on the hook for paying Gill $6 million whether he coaches at KU or not?

As for the two other recent firings, Zooker and Erickson, I was telling NP that if only Zook's wins this year were a little more spread out, it wouldn't look as bad as it was --- going 6-0 to start than 0-6 to finish.

Erickson deserves to get canned --- that program used to be USC's only challenge in the Pac 10 (now 12) and they should have been a shoo-in for the Pac 12 title game with USC now on probation. Whoops.

badger
11/28/2011, 09:51 AM
also ESPN's sportscenter made it official that Urbie is at tOSU. :rolleyes:

TheHumanAlphabet
11/28/2011, 10:31 AM
Also, Zooker looks like he's in trouble, hehe:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/story/_/id/7238482/ron-zook-illinois-fighting-illini-ends-news-conference-job-question

I guess losing to MinnesOta will do that to you...

TheHumanAlphabet
11/28/2011, 10:32 AM
I'm glad Davie got the job, now we don't have to listen to him on ESPN.

Drunk it up like he did at the OU-Tulsa game a few yeas back...

Former Sooner Krebs hired Davie...I thought he would know better...

TheHumanAlphabet
11/28/2011, 10:40 AM
Turner Gill is out at KU. Not much shock factor there.

Guess Buffalo is not KU. How did getting rid of the Big Man work out for you KU. You suck and will suck in perpetuity...

TUSooner
11/28/2011, 11:33 AM
I'm happy just to see that someone acknowledges that Tulane still has a football team!

(See, in TUSooner, the T = Tulane, not Tulsa.)

Since they won't get Leach, I wouldn't mind seeing them get Gill.

TheHumanAlphabet
11/28/2011, 11:38 AM
I don't think you would even want Gill at Tulane. He did well at Buffalo, but KU sure seemed to show his coaching was suspect...

badger
11/28/2011, 11:45 AM
I still have no idea how KU will get outta paying $6 mil to Turner... I might have to lurk at some of those KU boards that provided such wonderful meltdowns this season :)

I don't think Mikey will go to KU after the way their ex-AD dumped Mangino, much like I don't think he'd go to any other program that dumped a Stoops coaching tree colleague (no Arizona, no SDSU).

oumartin
11/28/2011, 12:09 PM
I still have no idea how KU will get outta paying $6 mil to Turner... I might have to lurk at some of those KU boards that provided such wonderful meltdowns this season :)

I don't think Mikey will go to KU after the way their ex-AD dumped Mangino, much like I don't think he'd go to any other program that dumped a Stoops coaching tree colleague (no Arizona, no SDSU).



that list of programs with former Stoops assistants is growning every year.. Seems those guys can't get a good coaching break. :(

badger
11/28/2011, 12:15 PM
that list of programs with former Stoops assistants is growning every year.. Seems those guys can't get a good coaching break. :(

Nah... they just got dealt a bad hand. Tech and KU have no business being as uppity as they were about Mangino and Leach when they got rid of him.

KU: You poked a player in the chest with your finger!
Read: You had a losing season after going to the Orange Bowl.

Tech: You locked a player in a shed and refused to apologize!
Read: So lawyers, you're saying if we fire him before this date we don't have to pay him the big bonus?

Those schools both deserve to lose after that and no coach that wasn't desperate to get a BCS conference job would choose to go either place.

TUSooner
11/28/2011, 12:17 PM
I don't think you would even want Gill at Tulane. He did well at Buffalo, but KU sure seemed to show his coaching was suspect...

Tulane is like Buffalo was: nowhere to go but up! :(

ALSO - I think I read that KU is NOT trying to get out of paying Gill the remainder of his contract. I think he deserved another year or 2.

OULenexaman
11/28/2011, 12:20 PM
I still have no idea how KU will get outta paying $6 mil to Turner... I might have to lurk at some of those KU boards that provided such wonderful meltdowns this season :)

just 1 booster alone donated 750K for the 6 mil hit.....

badger
11/28/2011, 12:21 PM
just 1 booster alone donated 750K for the 6 mil hit.....

Did the Longhorn Network donate $4 million toward the cause? :D

(seriously, why else would any school agree to let their game be shown on Bevo TV? hehe)

the-rover
11/28/2011, 12:21 PM
that list of programs with former Stoops assistants is growning every year.. Seems those guys can't get a good coaching break. :(

Sumlin is doing OK

aj44mc
11/28/2011, 12:25 PM
I think ASU would be a huge boost for Sumlin, compared to Houston. Is it because I am wishful thinking?

oumartin
11/28/2011, 12:39 PM
I think ASU would be a huge boost for Sumlin, compared to Houston. Is it because I am wishful thinking?

I think Sumlin could land a better gig. Sure ASU has great weather, hot girls, close to California but what else does it offer ;)

StoopTroup
11/28/2011, 01:06 PM
Nah... they just got dealt a bad hand. Tech and KU have no business being as uppity as they were about Mangino and Leach when they got rid of him.

KU: You poked a player in the chest with your finger!
Read: You had a losing season after going to the Orange Bowl.

Tech: You locked a player in a shed and refused to apologize!
Read: So lawyers, you're saying if we fire him before this date we don't have to pay him the big bonus?

Those schools both deserve to lose after that and no coach that wasn't desperate to get a BCS conference job would choose to go either place.

Kudos to responding to that dribble. +1

badger
11/28/2011, 01:35 PM
Kudos to responding to that dribble. +1

Let's save the "dribble" name calling for our Stillwater counterparts this week :)

I think revisionist history would suggest that Stoops assistants don't pan out at other schools, so it's fair to assume that just because they aren't there any more, you'd assume that they didn't do well.

Mike Stoops canned at Arizona? He must have sucked!

Mark Mangino canned at KU? Well they suck real bad now, so he must have REALLY sucked!

Mike Leach canned at Tech? Those losers had a losing season this year, so he was firing from a losing program! He must have TOTALLY sucked!

Revisionist history has not been kind to OU's football program overall, which has suggested things like LSU clobbered us at the Sugar Bowl (actually, it was only a 7-point victory), the repeated Big 12 titles are not that big of an achievement (then why isn't any other Big 12 school winning that many?), Stoops chokes in BCS games (actually, Stoops has won the Orange, Rose and Fiesta bowls!), you name it. The list goes on.

Thus, I'm not gonna call this dribble, it's accepted as common knowledge much like other OU football revisionist history theories. I just like to correct it whenever possible :)

StoopTroup
11/28/2011, 01:36 PM
You did a nice job.

sooner_born_1960
11/28/2011, 01:38 PM
Drivel?

oumartin
11/28/2011, 01:41 PM
Lets not forget Chuck Long and his brief stint at SDSU.



and I wasn't hammerin' anyone I was saying they haven't caught any breaks. didn't go into very good situations..

badger
11/28/2011, 01:45 PM
Drivel?

He knows that you're a basketball fan I guess :)

DRIBBLE!


Lets not forget Chuck Long and his brief stint at SDSU.



and I wasn't hammerin' anyone I was saying they haven't caught any breaks. didn't go into very good situations..

No doubt, not trying to suggest that some coaches haven't fared well, but it seems like Stoops ex-assistants are getting unfairly grouped together.

Leach and Mangino were outstanding in their hapless, helpless programs. And they were unfairly canned for stupid reasons. Therefore, LOSE, KU and Tech. Lose long, hard and miserably :mad:

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 01:47 PM
Lets not forget Chuck Long and his brief stint at SDSU.



and I wasn't hammerin' anyone I was saying they haven't caught any breaks. didn't go into very good situations..

Interestingly, Chuck Long was Gill's offensive coordinator. Pretty much sucked all the way around.

badger
11/28/2011, 01:49 PM
Interestingly, Chuck Long was Gill's offensive coordinator. Pretty much sucked all the way around.

I would have to assume that this was a package firing deal then. Gill and Long are both gone... and I don't think any programs will be busting down their doors looking to hire them immediately. Iowa might take him on as a program ambassador though. Dude was the Heisman runner-up, after all.

sooner_born_1960
11/28/2011, 01:50 PM
It's always a package firing deal. All the assistants assume they are gone.

oumartin
11/28/2011, 01:50 PM
chuck long and Venables are two coaches to me that do well as position coaches and Long did okay as a coordinator but might be best suited to coach a specialized position.

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 02:02 PM
I would have to assume that this was a package firing deal then. Gill and Long are both gone... and I don't think any programs will be busting down their doors looking to hire them immediately. Iowa might take him on as a program ambassador though. Dude was the Heisman runner-up, after all.

Rarely does a new head coach keep any of the left-over coaching staff, so I assume Long is gone (as well as all their other coaches). It will be interesting to see where Long ends up. KU didn't have a bad offense, and Long has done fairly well as an OC. I think he'll stay in coaching, but I'm sure he has a spot in the Iowa football program should he ever want/need it.

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 02:02 PM
chuck long and Venables are two coaches to me that do well as position coaches and Long did okay as a coordinator but might be best suited to coach a specialized position.

No comment on BV :). I agree about Long though, however, I think there's a team out there that will take him in as an OC.

badger
11/28/2011, 02:04 PM
Rarely does a new head coach keep any of the left-over coaching staff, so I assume Long is gone (as well as all their other coaches). It will be interesting to see where Long ends up. KU didn't have a bad offense, and Long has done fairly well as an OC. I think he'll stay in coaching, but I'm sure he has a spot in the Iowa football program should he ever want/need it.

Were you also among the Sooners that facepalmed or cringed when the announcer during the OU-KU game said that Long's offensive philosophy was to always run it on first and second downs to make third down more manageable? I totally was among those Sooners to facepalm and cringe. :mad:

On a completely unrelated matter, Mack Brown: Forced out this season or given another chance to earn the $5 million he hasn't come close to earning in the past two seasons?

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 02:16 PM
Were you also among the Sooners that facepalmed or cringed when the announcer during the OU-KU game said that Long's offensive philosophy was to always run it on first and second downs to make third down more manageable? I totally was among those Sooners to facepalm and cringe. :mad:

On a completely unrelated matter, Mack Brown: Forced out this season or given another chance to earn the $5 million he hasn't come close to earning in the past two seasons?

Yep, was right there with you.

I think Mack gets another year. I know the whorns are upset, but I think he showed just enough improvement to keep the heat off. Mike Sherman on the other hand...

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 02:25 PM
Slick Rick is out at UCLA (I can't remember this many coaches being ousted after a season....the odd 2011 cfb season continues).

badger
11/28/2011, 02:36 PM
WHERE ARE YOU TOP DAWG?! Your original post is in desperate need of updating! :(

PS: Link for Sweater Vest Rick here. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=231&articleid=20111128_231_0_LOSANG444146) Anyone else think its a tad premature, seeing how UCLA is about to be in the first-ever Pac 12 championship game (by default, but they're still in)?

At least Colorado kept their he-man-woman-hater around till after they got blown out by Texas in the 2005 Big 12 championship game :D

In memorandum:


Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other way to say it. She couldn't kick the ball through the uprights.

Mad Dog Madsen
11/28/2011, 02:45 PM
Iowa might take him on as a program ambassador though. Dude was the Heisman runner-up, after all.

LOL. Rex Grossman was a Heisman Runner-up too...

badger
11/28/2011, 02:53 PM
LOL. Rex Grossman was a Heisman Runner-up too...

There were lots of runners-up that years later you wonder how they could have chosen the other guy. Adrian Peterson behind Matt Fartlion comes to mind.

More on Ric's firing --- UCLA apparently hadn't lost to USC by 50 since a very long time ago. Pretty significant, considering the Pac Power USC was in the early aughts.

badger
11/28/2011, 03:08 PM
btw, Dennis Erickson out at ASU now seems official.

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=231&articleid=20111128_231_0_TEMPEA940589)

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 03:15 PM
Anyone else think its a tad premature, seeing how UCLA is about to be in the first-ever Pac 12 championship game (by default, but they're still in)?


Nah, I was actually surprised they brought him back this season. UCLA is horrible, and will be demolished in the PAC 12 championship game.

badger
11/28/2011, 03:37 PM
Nah, I was actually surprised they brought him back this season. UCLA is horrible, and will be demolished in the PAC 12 championship game.

They're actually letting him coach in the pac 12 game, interestingly enough.

I was just mentioning to NP that the new Pac 12 has been a graveyard for coaches. You could go through every team in that conference -- there has been a coaching change at every last one of them during the past few years, or there's rumors of eminent changes!

Wazzu: Wulff is soooo fired, it just hasn't been announced yet.
Oregon St: Riley is gone too, just wait.
Cal: Tedford is pretty much gone, yes.
UCLA: Rick officially out as of Monday.
ASU: Denny officially out as of Monday.
Arizona: Stoops fired mid-season.
Stanford: What's YOUR deal? The NFL offered in the offseason? Mkay.
Colorado: Started its Pac 12 era off by firing its coach while exiting the Big 12.
Warshington: When OU visited Seattle just a few short years ago, Ty Willingham was still the coach.
Oregano: Phil Knight once nicknamed the shade of green "Belotti Bold." Chip Kelly is only a few years in there.
USC: Win Forever? It seems like only yesterday that Rocky Top had its pitchfolks and torches out over Lane skipping town.
Utah: This guy is the longest tenured of the pac 12 bunch?! Urbie isn't too far removed from that school though, because he didn't exactly stay at Florida very long.

oumartin
11/28/2011, 03:43 PM
They're actually letting him coach in the pac 12 game, interestingly enough.

I was just mentioning to NP that the new Pac 12 has been a graveyard for coaches. You could go through every team in that conference -- there has been a coaching change at every last one of them during the past few years, or there's rumors of eminent changes!

Wazzu: Wulff is soooo fired, it just hasn't been announced yet.
Oregon St: Riley is gone too, just wait.
Cal: Tedford is pretty much gone, yes.
UCLA: Rick officially out as of Monday.
ASU: Denny officially out as of Monday.
Arizona: Stoops fired mid-season.
Stanford: What's YOUR deal? The NFL offered in the offseason? Mkay.
Colorado: Started its Pac 12 era off by firing its coach while exiting the Big 12.
Warshington: When OU visited Seattle just a few short years ago, Ty Willingham was still the coach.
Oregano: Phil Knight once nicknamed the shade of green "Belotti Bold." Chip Kelly is only a few years in there.
USC: Win Forever? It seems like only yesterday that Rocky Top had its pitchfolks and torches out over Lane skipping town.
Utah: This guy is the longest tenured of the pac 12 bunch?! Urbie isn't too far removed from that school though, because he didn't exactly stay at Florida very long.



my head hurts now

badger
11/28/2011, 03:56 PM
my head hurts now

I bet it hurt more seeing St. Louis sink all those shots last night :mad:

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 04:02 PM
They're actually letting him coach in the pac 12 game, interestingly enough.

I was just mentioning to NP that the new Pac 12 has been a graveyard for coaches. You could go through every team in that conference -- there has been a coaching change at every last one of them during the past few years, or there's rumors of eminent changes!

Wazzu: Wulff is soooo fired, it just hasn't been announced yet.
Oregon St: Riley is gone too, just wait.
Cal: Tedford is pretty much gone, yes.
UCLA: Rick officially out as of Monday.
ASU: Denny officially out as of Monday.
Arizona: Stoops fired mid-season.
Stanford: What's YOUR deal? The NFL offered in the offseason? Mkay.
Colorado: Started its Pac 12 era off by firing its coach while exiting the Big 12.
Warshington: When OU visited Seattle just a few short years ago, Ty Willingham was still the coach.
Oregano: Phil Knight once nicknamed the shade of green "Belotti Bold." Chip Kelly is only a few years in there.
USC: Win Forever? It seems like only yesterday that Rocky Top had its pitchfolks and torches out over Lane skipping town.
Utah: This guy is the longest tenured of the pac 12 bunch?! Urbie isn't too far removed from that school though, because he didn't exactly stay at Florida very long.

Wow, until I read that, I didn't realize just how unstable the coaching has been in the PAC 12. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Wulf is out at Wazzu by the end of the day. Stanford is interesting to me, because I think Shaw is being asked to drive the car and not wreck it. Once Luck and other key Harbaugh players are gone, I think Stanford will fall back to mediocrity...then we'll see how long Shaw stays.

If things get crazy with the NCAA issues at Oregon, Kelly could be shown the door, otherwise he'll be there for a while. USC has shown a little grit this season, but Kiffin is bound to screw that up in the coming years. Other than Jon Embree at Colorado (and only because he's new and a CU alum), Sarkasian is about the only other coach that is not in a position to be ousted.

Oh you crazy, crazy PAC 12!

badger
11/28/2011, 04:05 PM
Methinks that big budget TV deal is making the pac 12 programs a little bit more bold in coaching changes. However, don't expect it to last, because those buyout dollars add up and west coast schools are struggling with their government's mismanagement of money as-is. A few million every five years might not cause the Cal-Berkeley students to Occupy the Athletic Department, but a revolving door for coaching won't make the Cal Bears Occupy the Endzone, either.

TopDawg
11/28/2011, 04:07 PM
Internet was spotty for me over the holiday. Any new developments?

sooner_born_1960
11/28/2011, 04:09 PM
All silent on the coaching front.

badger
11/28/2011, 04:11 PM
Internet was spotty for me over the holiday. Any new developments?

I might not be a real Modador, but I am quite sure that I still have the authority to rename you "HorsePig" if you don't get your arse in gear. :P

swardboy
11/28/2011, 04:17 PM
Article on Neuheisal's dismissal...yes, I know you knew already.......

LOS ANGELES (AP)

UCLA (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/team/ucla-bruins-football/86094) fired coach Rick Neuheisel on Monday after four disappointing seasons in charge of his alma mater.
Neuheisel will be allowed to coach the Bruins (6-6, 5-4 Pac-12) in Friday's Pac-12 title game at Oregon, athletic director Dan Guerrero announced. Offensive coordinator Mike Johnson (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/player/mike-johnson/730386) will be the Bruins' interim coach if they receive a bowl berth.

Neuheisel is 21-28 since taking over the program in December 2007, never building the momentum he needed to reach his goal of challenging Southern California for city supremacy. Guerrero fired Neuheisel two days after UCLA's 50-0 loss to No. 9 USC (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/team/usc-trojans-football/86095), the Bruins' largest loss since 1930 in their crosstown rivalry game.

''I thanked Dan for the opportunity,'' Neuheisel said on the Pac-12's promotional teleconference for the title game, less than an hour after his firing was announced. ''I don't need reasons. Certainly when you're UCLA coach, you'd like to play better against USC. When you lose in the fashion we did, that's a difficult pill to swallow.''

The Bruins will represent the Pac-12 South in the inaugural league title game on Friday despite finishing two games behind postseason-banned USC in the division standings. UCLA is a 30-point underdog against the Ducks with a Rose Bowl berth on the line for the winner.

If UCLA loses to Oregon, the Pac-12 would have to petition the NCAA for bowl eligibility for a 6-7 team. The Bruins haven't indicated whether they would pursue a waiver, although Johnson's appointment as interim coach suggests they would.

UCLA made it to just one bowl game in Neuheisel's first three seasons, winning the EagleBank Bowl in Washington (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/team/washington-huskies-football/86092), D.C., in 2009.

Neuheisel's firing before the title game is an ugly end to the 50-year-old coach's self-described dream job. He was a quarterback at UCLA, leading the Bruins to an unlikely victory in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 2, 1984.

On Sunday, Neuheisel said he believed he deserved to return as the Bruins' coach, citing their five conference victories, bowl eligibility and title game berth. He said he felt the Bruins had ''moved the needle'' to keep UCLA on a path to excellence.

''We have certainly had some unfortunate evenings where things haven't gone our way, but I think the program is headed in the right direction,'' he said.

Neuheisel had more success during his first two head coaching stops at Colorado and Washington, leading the Buffaloes to 33 wins and three bowl victories over four seasons before taking the Huskies to four straight winning seasons and a Rose Bowl victory after the 2000 campaign.

Neuheisel eventually was fired by Washington after a series of problems in Seattle ranging from player discipline to a rift with school leadership to his infamous involvement in an NCAA basketball tournament pool. After two years out of coaching and a stint on the Baltimore Ravens' staff, Neuheisel took over at UCLA.

But the Bruins went 4-8 in his first and third seasons, with a 7-6 finish in 2009. He had high expectations for his current team, but the Bruins have won consecutive games just once all season, usually alternating blowout losses and narrow victories.

UCLA still went 5-1 at the Rose Bowl this season, and surprising losses by Utah and Arizona State propelled the Bruins into the Pac-12 title game even before their blowout loss to USC.

When Neuheisel returned to UCLA, he declared the ''football monopoly is over'' in the Los Angeles area - words that haunted him with each loss by his Bruins. Neuheisel ended up with much less success than former teammate Karl Dorrell, who was fired in 2007 after going 35-27 in five seasons that included four bowl berths, a 10-2 campaign in 2005 and a Sun Bowl victory.

Johnson joined Neuheisel's staff this season, replacing Norm Chow after Neuheisel's messy public breakup with the longtime offensive mastermind. The former NFL assistant coach was the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator for most of last season, and he has helped Neuheisel to lead a resurgence of UCLA's offense this year.

Neuheisel and Chow installed Nevada's pistol offense at UCLA last season, a surprising decision viewed as desperation by two veteran coaches with a wealth of experience in other systems. The switch revived UCLA's nonexistent ground game, but the formation still felt gimmicky and unsuited to UCLA's personnel even this season, when the Bruins had decent success with the emergence of Kevin Prince (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/player/kevin-prince/738236) as a running quarterback.

Neuheisel remained confident in his abilities until the end, saying last week that he thought UCLA had ''closed the gap more'' in its rivalry with USC. The Trojans then delivered the third-biggest blowout in the rivalry's history, shutting out UCLA for the first time since 2001.

TopDawg
11/28/2011, 04:26 PM
UPDATED! UPDATED!

All of the current openings are posted (I believe) as well as the new appointments. Now I'll try to tackle the rumored candidates.

swardboy
11/28/2011, 04:31 PM
Just thought I'd throw out that Bart Tatum's out at Missouri Southern State University. Hey, Barry's son played there!

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 04:31 PM
UPDATED! UPDATED!

All of the current openings are posted (I believe) as well as the new appointments. Now I'll try to tackle the rumored candidates.

Stay close...there's gonna be more.

Washington State is going to make a decision on Wulf within the next 24 hours.

TopDawg
11/28/2011, 04:40 PM
Slick Rick is out at UCLA (I can't remember this many coaches being ousted after a season....the odd 2011 cfb season continues).

I found this in last year's thread:


Here are the number of changes over the past decade. (Year denotes the season that had just finished.)

2000 - 25
2001 - 13
2002 - 18
2003 - 13
2004 - 23
2005 - 11
2006 - 24
2007 - 18
2008 - 22
2009 - 23
2010 - 14 so far

We ended up with 21 last year.

badger
11/28/2011, 04:51 PM
UPDATED! UPDATED!

All of the current openings are posted (I believe) as well as the new appointments. Now I'll try to tackle the rumored candidates.

Note to self: Threaten posters with username alterations at first sign of defiance!

Thank you for the update, TopDawg. :D

SoonerMom2
11/28/2011, 06:42 PM
Gill hired the former offensive coordinator from OU Chuck Long who I was happy to see leave OU for San Diego so was not expecting much out of Kansas offense. :)

badger
11/28/2011, 06:51 PM
UNC is actively (heh) pursuing a football coach.

Link (http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/11/23/1665465/unc-posts-ad-for-football-coach.html)

Looks like interim coach Everett Withers really was just the interim. UNC better move fast. They're getting tons of competition now!

EDIT: The more I read on the dude, the more the "interim" tag looks to be the farthest he goes with UNC. He apparently gave the game ball after the first UNC victory of the season... to fired coach Butch Davis. Then, he did academic smack talk on NC State, causing both chancellors to apologize to each other (UNC had some academic issues in Butch's firing I think). And then, they lost to NC State after the academic smackage :P

8timechamps
11/28/2011, 08:01 PM
I found this in last year's thread:



We ended up with 21 last year.

Wow, more than I realized. Maybe it's because it seems like many of them are happening at the same time. 14 so far, and the season isn't over...wonder if a new record is in the works.

Jacie
11/28/2011, 08:04 PM
Will Zook and/or Neuhiesel be coaching somewhere next season?

Another possible replacement coach, can Mike Price trade up from UTEP for any of the jobs at a Big 6 school such as Kansas, Illinois or UNC?

I was wrong I admit about June Jones leaving Hawaii for SMU (didn't think he would have much success there). So if he could coach in the Pac 12 I guess he would go for it. With the reemergence of USC following probation when they weren't down very far to begin with means at best all he can accomplish is 2nd in the Pac 12 South, however.

BoulderSooner79
11/28/2011, 09:14 PM
Will Zook and/or Neuhiesel be coaching somewhere next season?

Another possible replacement coach, can Mike Price trade up from UTEP for any of the jobs at a Big 6 school such as Kansas, Illinois or UNC?

I was wrong I admit about June Jones leaving Hawaii for SMU (didn't think he would have much success there). So if he could coach in the Pac 12 I guess he would go for it. With the reemergence of USC following probation when they weren't down very far to begin with means at best all he can accomplish is 2nd in the Pac 12 South, however.

I don't think USC has reemerged yet. I guess they have weathered the coaching change and the announcement of probation. But the real hit starts next season with 3 years of severe scholarship limits. That should help a new non-USC coach get established in the Pac 12 south.

badger
11/29/2011, 09:12 AM
The only thing USC has emerged from is its bowl ban... after this season.

With golden boy Barkbrain gone after this season, you can fully expect a return to mediocrity.

TopDawg
11/29/2011, 10:39 AM
Wow, more than I realized. Maybe it's because it seems like many of them are happening at the same time. 14 so far, and the season isn't over...wonder if a new record is in the works.

It does seem like they're a little earlier this year...more of them anyway. Like I mentioned before, it seems like we had a sharp increase in "during-the-season" firings this year. It's interesting to see how each year plays out. Sometimes you have the domino thing where a big name school like Michigan takes lower-tier program's coach (like Rich Rod) and then they end up plucking a coach from another school (not the case with WVU and Rich Rod) which turns 1 opening into 3. So it could be that there are more firings this year (as opposed to simply "job openings" from coaches taking other jobs)) than in the past. And with three of the hirings thus far (Meyer, Davie, Rich Rod) being coaches who weren't currently coaching, we may not see as much of the domino effect this year.

TopDawg
11/29/2011, 10:42 AM
Sounds like the Wazzu announcement will come this afternoon.

Word is that the KU situation will play out quickly.

Sounds like Ole Miss is looking at some NFL assistants, but no word on specific names.

badger
11/29/2011, 02:31 PM
Speaking of KU, the ESPN.com Big 12 blog named off these guys as possible candidates:


* Mike Leach - Former Texas Tech head coach, offensive scheme and ties to Big 12 remain intriguing.
* Jim Leavitt - 49ers LB coach, history with KU AD Sheahon Zenger dating back to Kansas State days.
* Dana Dimel - Kansas State defensive coordinator, former assistant coach at Kansas and has previous head coach experience at Wyoming.
* Manny Diaz - Texas defensive coordinator, quickly rising up ranks as head coach candidate.
* Mike Stoops - former Arizona head coach, familiarity with Big 12 after serving on his brother's Oklahoma staff.
* Brett Venables - Oklahoma defensive coordinator, already proven in the Big 12.
* Todd Monken - Oklahoma State offensive coordinator, already turned down Tulane for a better opportunity.
* Justin Fuente - TCU offensive coordinator, multiple stops along the midwest and previous head coaching experience at Illinois State.
* Troy Calhoun - Air Force head coach, may look to take next step in a bigger conference.
* Larry Fedora - Southern Miss head coach, was in contention for Kansas opening before it hired Gill.
* Kevin Sumlin - Houston head coach, could look to make the jump into a BCS conference.
* Mark Stoops - Florida State defensive coordinator, well known family ties in the Big 12.
* Dave Doeren - NIU head coach, former Kansas assistant coach.


The best job out there right now might be Arizona State. The split with Denny was reportedly amicable because Erickson got a buyout and leaves with his legacy intact and the next guy will have a bowl season and some good talent to pick up where things left off but hopefully with more winning.

badger
11/29/2011, 03:16 PM
Wulff is officially out now.

Linky (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=231&articleid=20111129_231_0_SPOKAN174770)

Who will be gone next?

TopDawg
11/29/2011, 05:50 PM
Updated.

Wulff deserved to be fired. I took that same Wazzu team and turned them into Pac-12 champs this year. They have a really tall, speedy receiver who broke all kinds of records for me.

oumartin
11/29/2011, 10:13 PM
Fuente was a head coach already? WOW, maybe he needs another shot.

mdklatt
11/29/2011, 10:20 PM
The Bob Davie announcement surprised me. Dude's been out of coaching for a long time. But it is New Mexico.

I guess Urban Meyer is over his "health problems"?

TopDawg
11/30/2011, 05:17 PM
And with three of the hirings thus far (Meyer, Davie, Rich Rod) being coaches who weren't currently coaching, we may not see as much of the domino effect this year.

The trend continues.

badger
11/30/2011, 05:21 PM
I wonder what those fired coaches are thinking... maybe they're like Charlie Bucket watching the golden tickets get snatched up by those that already seem to have so much compared to him... and then when he finally does get a golden ticket himself, what do they tell him??? This. (http://youlose.ytmnd.com/)

SoonerMom2
11/30/2011, 05:24 PM
You can add Mike Leach to Washington State which was announced today that a deal is pretty well done on the radio. Another coach not currently coaching.

badger
11/30/2011, 06:18 PM
How could we have missed this? Howard Drunkieburger is retiring at season's end! FAU will have a coaching vacancy shortly. Add to master list, plz

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/939/776/78623513_display_image.jpg
Howie: TWO martinis, please!

EDIT: Oh wait, it's already up there, hehe

Jacie
11/30/2011, 06:58 PM
An idea for schools suffering through multiple one or no-win seasons, host an NCAA Football 2011 tournament with the winner named their Offensive Coordinator for 2012 in exchange for sponsorship by EA Sports (say something in the low 7 figure range). This person would be responsible for naming starting lineups and play calling for all games, and be paid a salary commensurate with what the school paid the previous OC. Of course, it would be a stunt and the results probably horrendous record-wise, but it could not be any worse than what they were already used to and there would be an infusion of cash on par with a mid to upper tier bowl game.

Jason Alexander
12/1/2011, 12:19 AM
There's only two plays you need to call in NCAA Football....

Hail Mary and punt block

TheHumanAlphabet
12/1/2011, 11:24 AM
Houston Chron announced The Pirate to Wazzu by official presser today...

Sherman is 50/50 according to The Chron. The loss to the Horns and losing a half -time lead may doom him. He has the backing of the AD however.

AM1560 (Houston OU radio station) had a round robin about Sabin taking over at UT because many people are tired of Mack...

8timechamps
12/1/2011, 08:26 PM
Sherman out at A&M.

Jacie
12/1/2011, 10:03 PM
Kevin Sumlin has been mentioned as a candidate that a&m would be interested in but I have a feeling that they are a year late. Their stock has dropped while his is at an all time high. KH has already been mentioned in connection with the Arizona State opening but perhaps he should look to the east . . . Penn State.

SoCal
12/2/2011, 08:26 AM
Gus Malzahn reportedly front-runner for Tar Heels job

At various points last December, Gus Malzahn was reportedly on the verge — or had become — the head coach at Vanderbilt and then Maryland. Malzahn ultimately stayed with Auburn as its offensive coordinator, albeit with a bit heftier bank account.

Nearly a year later, it’s déjà vu all over again.

Malzahn’s name has been connected to the opening at North Carolina for weeks, if not months, and is viewed by those close to the situation as a very viable permanent replacement for Butch Davis. Now, AuburnUndercover.com is reporting that Malzahn has emerged as the clear front-runner for the Tar Heels job.

There has been speculation that a new head coach at UNC, whether it be Malzahn or another candidate, could be named the first week of December, if not sooner.

In addition to UNC, Malzahn has also been mentioned in connection to Ole Miss as well as Arizona. The coordinator was asked about all of the speculation swirling around his coaching future, and, as expected, said he was only focused on the job at hand.

“You know the only thing I’ve done, we’ve got two more games and I’ve got to do the best job I’ve done since I’ve been here and that’s my focus, my only focus,” Malzahn said.

Along with Malzahn, Houston’s Kevin Sumlin and Southern Miss’ Larry Fedora have been prominently mentioned as possibilities. Rivals.com reported Wednesday that Boise State’s Chris Petersen was far and away the top choice for new athletic director Bubba Cunningham, but that appears to be nothing more than pipe dream for the university.


http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/16/gus-malzahn-reportedly-front-runner-for-tar-heels-job/

badger
12/2/2011, 12:00 PM
Holy shizzle... Carl Pelini is taking over for Schnellenberger at FAU?!

Link (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7305284/carl-pelini-agrees-become-florida-atlantic-coach-according-source)

Now to see if I spelled Howard's last name correctly and the word filter changed it to those three words still :D

EDIT: Either I spelled it wrong or it doesn't auto-correct to "that old drunk" anymore. Lulz

And as for Carl... big temper, big ego, can't believe any school, even hapless FAU, would want him. Guess they're desperate to not go back to being a Bottom 10 part of F_U

oumartin
12/2/2011, 12:49 PM
Is mark stoops getting any looks?

8timechamps
12/2/2011, 01:06 PM
Is mark stoops getting any looks?

I haven't seen his name mentioned, but I would think there would be some interest out there for him.

badger
12/2/2011, 01:09 PM
Is mark stoops getting any looks?

He shouldn't take any little offers. Build your resume at FSU (or at another top school) as a coordinator and get a top job for top dollar.

The Tulanes, Memphises and FAUs will always be there. The top jobs for big bucks come up infrequently for coordinators, unless they're the top ones in the nation.

badger
12/2/2011, 01:10 PM
PS: Top Dawg, add North Carolina. They are NOT keeping their interim guy, no way.

8timechamps
12/2/2011, 01:14 PM
PS: Top Dawg, add North Carolina. They are NOT keeping their interim guy, no way.

Supposedly, Malzahn has interviewed for the UNC job.

badger
12/2/2011, 02:16 PM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2381514/51406_Missouri_Nebraska_Football.jpg

I just wanted to share that with anyone else who might think Pelini is a coaching candidate anywhere :eek:

TopDawg
12/2/2011, 05:07 PM
PS: Top Dawg, add North Carolina. They are NOT keeping their interim guy, no way.

My philosophy for this thread is to wait until it's official. All signs point to Pelini at FAU, but it looks like it won't be announced until Monday, so I'll wait until then to list it. I'm even really picky with what rumors I post.

Ehhh...what the heck. I'll go ahead and add UNC.

TopDawg
12/2/2011, 05:11 PM
Lots of Auburn assistants being mentioned. Two of them former Poke assistants.

huskerland
12/2/2011, 05:28 PM
Oh yeah. Wow. Completely forgot about Mike. (Stoops, not Locksley). Is that what they call him? Mad mike?? Rumors of Carl Pelini leaving the Huskers.. It seems Mike is intrested and it will be interesting in how this all works out..

huskerland
12/2/2011, 05:34 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bcb6d

If you trust this site? Carl leaving and Mike Stoops is interested! Mmm! I stopped back to add another link:
http://www.huskermax.com/vbbs/showthread.php?27048-LJS-Mike-Stoops-would-be-interested-in-opening-at-Nebraska-IF-it-happens

badger
12/2/2011, 06:03 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bcb6d

If you trust this site? Carl leaving and Mike Stoops is interested! Mmm!

You can trust the site that they got that info from : ESPN and every other major sports site. Carl's headed to FAU and that leaves a vacancy at Nebby.

Jacie
12/3/2011, 10:52 AM
Carl's headed to FAU and that leaves a vacancy at Nebby.

More like a huge hole where their defense used to be. This will do to the nebbish what Mike Stoops leaving for Arizona did to OU.

mdklatt
12/3/2011, 03:11 PM
It's official: Garrick McGee to UAB. The John Blake coaching tree is starting to flower....

oumartin
12/3/2011, 03:14 PM
Garrick had nothing to do with Blake did he?

mdklatt
12/3/2011, 03:22 PM
Garrick had nothing to do with Blake did he?

Wasn't he a senior during Blake's first year? I might be wrong.

oumartin
12/3/2011, 03:25 PM
Wow, maybe so. I know he was around with Gibbs and Howard. Time is fuzzy back then

agoo758
12/3/2011, 03:48 PM
It was announced last night that Kevin Sumlin is no longer an ASU candidate.

oumartin
12/3/2011, 03:55 PM
Sumlin holding out for OU job

ouwasp
12/3/2011, 04:05 PM
any rumors about the black hole that is KU football?

badger
12/3/2011, 05:25 PM
at least stoops isn't getting rumored for this and that job this year

oumartin
12/3/2011, 05:26 PM
at least stoops isn't getting rumored for this and that job this year
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Them days are over

bluedogok
12/4/2011, 08:47 PM
Steve Fairchild is out at Colorado State, the AD was let go on Thursday and a wealthy alum was installed as AD. Gary Barnett is lobbying for the job.

Denver Post - CSU fires AD Paul Kowalczyk, hires ex-Rams quarterback Jack Graham (http://www.denverpost.com/csu/ci_19453408)
Denver Post - CSU fires football coach Steve Fairchild; Gary Barnett interested in Rams job (http://www.denverpost.com/csu/ci_19469352)
Denver Post - Kiszla: Barnett would put CSU football back into the conversation (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19465581)

colleyvillesooner
12/4/2011, 08:51 PM
Sumlin holding out for A&M job

FIFY

8timechamps
12/4/2011, 08:52 PM
Wasn't he a senior during Blake's first year? I might be wrong.

He was a senior when Smellsofbourbon was there. He was recruited by Blake before Blake went to the NFL.

TheHumanAlphabet
12/5/2011, 10:41 AM
Fresno State fired Coach 'Stache/FuManChu...

badger
12/5/2011, 04:55 PM
While the state of Oklahoma is in for a big freeze, the state of Mississippi is in for a HUGE freeze!

Or rather, Hugh Freeze.

Link (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7319777/mississippi-rebels-say-hugh-freeze-accepted-coaching-position)

Who?!

badger
12/5/2011, 04:55 PM
In addition, Crazy Carl is now confirmed as FAU's replacement for Drunk Howie:

Link (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7318712/florida-atlantic-owls-hire-nebraska-cornhuskers-carl-pelini-coach)

TopDawg
12/5/2011, 06:18 PM
I think I have all of the updates now.

Since Sumlin is good as gone...probably to A&M...word is that Houston might be interested in OSU's Joe DeForrest.

badger
12/5/2011, 06:32 PM
So is anyone besides Drunk Howie retiring? Must be a hard job to let go. Too much $$$$

badger
12/5/2011, 09:08 PM
I spoke too soon.

Hawaii's coach retired.

Link (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7321068/hawaii-warriors-coach-greg-mcmackin-retires-four-seasons)

TopDawg
12/6/2011, 10:55 AM
We ended up with 21 last year.

And we have 21 so far this year.

With the virtual certainty of some more opening up. You can probably count on Houston opening up and then you've got June Jones, Larry Fedora, Dan Mullen and Calhoun (Air Force) being mentioned as candidates as well.

OULenexaman
12/6/2011, 11:17 AM
any rumors about the black hole that is KU football? been dead quiet out here.....said they would move swiftly....my guess is Leach threw a monkey wrench in those plans.

kevpks
12/6/2011, 11:22 AM
On the Sports Urinal this morning they said that Monken interviewed at Illinois.

badger
12/6/2011, 11:51 AM
been dead quiet out here.....said they would move swiftly....my guess is Leach threw a monkey wrench in those plans.

It's not as hopeless as UCLA's situation. Remember how every coach was turning down Nebrasky after they got rid of Frank Solich? That sounds like what's happening at UCLA. The Boise guy, the Sumlin guy, the everyone. They're all declining to even interview, reportedly!

badger
12/6/2011, 11:53 AM
been dead quiet out here.....said they would move swiftly....my guess is Leach threw a monkey wrench in those plans.

Brent V is being considered if you believe the Internet.

I do think that Leach was who their athletic director was hoping for, but since Leach has been screwed around with in the past, both when he was at Tech and after, I don't blame him for jumping on Wazzu. Remember how disappointed he sounded when Maryland went with someone else? I think they probably led him on a little bit too much :(

OULenexaman
12/6/2011, 01:13 PM
From the KC Star if you believe them......


When Mike Leach agreed to a deal with Washington State last Wednesday that would pay him $2.2 million a year, it was natural to wonder whether KU had been outbid for Leach, who had emerged as a top candidate.

The sources said Leach chose Washington State because he did not want to coach in the Big 12 again. Leach has a pending lawsuit against league member Texas Tech for breach of contract.

“The only reason he was talking to KU was Sheahon,” one source said, referring to the longstanding relationship between Zenger and Leach.

Zenger has spent the last five days conducing a national search. He does not discuss candidates publicly, and there has been little buzz out of Lawrence or the rest of the country about his current thinking.

After Southern Mississippi beat Houston 49-28 in the Conference USA championship game Saturday, Southern Miss coach Larry Fedora became a hot name in several searches, including Texas A&M and North Carolina.

Fedora was born in College Station and was the head coach at Garland (Texas) High before rising up the college ranks. For those reasons, he makes sense for the Aggies. But, if Texas A&M goes in a different direction, Fedora would appear to be very attractive to the Jayhawks, who must be active in Texas to have success in recruiting.

Other names that make sense for Kansas are Wyoming coach Dave Christensen, Missouri’s offensive coordinator for 12 seasons, and Florida State defensive coordinator Mark Stoops, who coached with Zenger at Wyoming.

Northern Illinois coach Dave Doeren, a Kansas City native who coached at KU before becoming the defensive coordinator at Wisconsin, has expressed interest in the job, according to the sources.



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/05/3303730/ku-will-pay-market-value-for-next.html#ixzz1fmO1nPL7

badger
12/6/2011, 01:19 PM
How bout this for a name for Kansas: Dennis Franchione.

Before they hired Mangino, Franchione was stringing KU along leveraging other offers and basically holding out hope that a better place would take him (which happened). KU was up in arms and were like "EFF IT, let's hire Mangino since he actually wants to be here!"

Fran Face might have been seen as a failure at Texas A&M, but that's only because they hate every coach not named Bear Bryant down there. He could possibly get KU on the right track again and has ties to the Texas area for recruiting and stuff.

Would KU want to put up with him again? Well, they'd probably get him for a lot cheaper this time around. No bidding wars, methinks.


The committee interviewed successful head coaches such as Fresno State's Hill and John L. Smith at Louisville. Mangino, though, blew everyone away when talking with the committee via conference call.

"You could just tell he was so organized," Evans said. "After it was over a lot of guys said he could run a factory. You could've brought him on board at Acme Widgets and he would've been successful."

Former Kansas All-American Gale Sayers was on the conference call during Mangino's interview.

"Is he still on the line," Sayers said after the interrogation concluded.

"No," was the response.

"Let's hire him right now," Sayers said.

As impressive as Mangino was, the committee knew that Bohl entered the search intent on hiring Alabama's Dennis Franchione, who was in the midst of his first season with the Crimson Tide.

Franchione knew that fans in Tuscaloosa would be irate if they found out he was interested in leaving – especially for a downtrodden program such as Kansas. So Bohl did his best to keep the situation hush-hush, traveling alone to meet with Franchione and only updating a few of the search committee members about the proceedings.

One minute Franchione seemed ready to accept the job, the next he'd changed his mind. The end came when Franchione told Bohl he needed a little more time because he wanted to see if he was going to be a candidate for the Notre Dame job, which came open when Bob Davie was fired on Dec. 2. That same day, Bohl rescinded his offer to Franchione and hired Mangino.

"No one wants to give Al Bohl any credit," Evans said. "But at the very end, we were dancing with a very successful guy who kept stringing us along, and finally Al just said, 'Forget it. We're offering this job to Mark Mangino.' It took a lot of courage to do that. Six years later it looks like we may have dodged a bullet."

Entire article here. (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-kansas110907)

ouwasp
12/6/2011, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the replies......like any Sooner, I don't care about KU in any real sense, but I am curious as to who would take that job...I hope it's not someone I like, because I would just as soon see them struggle since they got rid of Mighty Mark.

Soonerfan88
12/6/2011, 06:09 PM
I wonder if the folks who keep mentioning Mike or Mark Stoops for Big 12 jobs actually pay attention. It is very well known the Stoops brothers HATE coaching against each other so why would they agree to do it every year in the same conference?

northspeter
12/6/2011, 08:57 PM
larry fedora is gonna be the next head coach at north carolina... via many twitter updates just recently...

8timechamps
12/6/2011, 09:02 PM
So, we're at 21 (ties last year). Any chance we break 25 this season?

bluedogok
12/6/2011, 11:35 PM
On 102.3 The Ticket here in Denver they had a report tonight where Gary Barnett was told he was not a candidate for the Colorado State job. He was evidently told they wanted a "young gun" type of coach, so someone who is cheaper than someone of Barnett's experience. There was also much discussion on how many CSU alumni would have a hard time hiring a "CU Guy" as their head coach.

Sooner in Tampa
12/7/2011, 07:11 AM
Heres another name for KU: Phillip Fulmer


Three seasons after being fired by Tennessee — it seems longer than that, no? — Phillip Fulmer could be back on the sidelines again at another school.

At least, that’s what Fulmer seems to want.
KUSports.com is reporting that Fulmer is interested in the Kansas job that recently opened after Turner Gill was fired after just his second season.

“He told me a little over a week ago, ‘Let ’em know I’m interested (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/dec/06/big-time-coach-wants-ku-job/),’” said a Lawrence resident who worked with Fulmer at Wichita State. “The guy had a 152-52 record playing in the best conference in America! He wanted the job two years ago, and they hired a guy who was 20-30 in a bad league?”
“They”, of course, being KU, and “a guy” being Gill.

But it’s still unclear if Kansas feels the same way about Fulmer; KUSports also breaks down a list of potential candidates (http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2011/dec/6/coaching-search-2011-day-9-859-am-are-bc/) for the job. The former Vols coach was apparently interested in the Jayhawks opening two years ago when Gill was hired, and Fulmer hasn’t appeared on many coaching radars since leaving Tennessee.

There was a brief time where Fulmer was thought to be a candidate for the UT athletic director spot, but that ultimately went to David Hart.

Sooner in Tampa
12/7/2011, 07:15 AM
Some news about Penn State:


With Aaron Rodgers playing the quarterback position the likes of which we may never have seen before (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/01/brady-impossible-to-play-any-better-than-rodgers/), it stands to reason that his position coach, Tom Clements, will likely be a hot commodity during the 2011 edition of the coaching carousel both at the NFL and collegiate levels.

The Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach has reportedly taken steps to ensure he will be a hot commodity, at least as it concerns one job.
Citing unnamed sources, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Clements has applied for the vacancy at Penn State (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/college/s_770521.html). Clements sent his résumé to the six-member search committee, which was officially announced last week and charged with finding a permanent replacement for Joe Paterno.

Clements is a western Pennsylvania native whose coaching career has been spent mostly at the professional level. As noted by the Tribune-Review, Clements in 2004 was a candidate for the vacancy at Notre Dame, his alma mater and where he spent four seasons as the QBs coach in the mid-90s.
Former PSU wide receiver Kenny Jackson, who was on the same Pittsburgh Steelers staff as Clements early last decade, raved about the type of coach Clements is and vouched for his ability to take over a Nittany Lions football program rocked by the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal.
“I’ve been fortunate to play for a lot of good coaches and work with a lot of good coaches, and I know this guy can coach,” Jackson told the paper.
“I coached receivers (with the Steelers), and he was the quarterbacks coach and he made people better. You can see what he’s done with Rodgers. I’ve watched how players respected him, watched how they interacted with Tommy, how calm and organized he was. I have the feeling he’s gonna be a great head coach in the right situation.”

The paper also notes that interim head coach Tom Bradley and quarterbacks coach Jay Paterno have either received or will receive courtesy interviews for the job, although neither are viewed as serious candidates for the opening.

In other Penn State coaching search news, Tony Dungy said recently that while he’s flattered, he has no interest in the Nittany Lions job (http://www.indystar.com/article/20111205/SPORTS/111205027/Former-Colts-coach-Tony-Dungy-not-interested-in-Penn-State-job?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS). The former Indianapolis Colts head coach and current NBC NFL analyst had been mentioned as one of those “fling it against the wall and see if it sticks” candidates, although it was never a realistic possibility.

TopDawg
12/7/2011, 10:29 AM
So, we're at 21 (ties last year). Any chance we break 25 this season?

Definitely a chance with all of the current head coaches that are being seriously considered (Fedora at UNC, Sumlin everywhere, Jones at ASU, etc.). It would be surprising to see any more firings or retirings at this point, but we've been surprised like that before. If the NFL comes knocking, we could maybe see one or two more come from that.

badger
12/7/2011, 11:32 AM
Didn't Meat Chicken fire Rich Rod after their bowl? I don't recall.

Jacie
12/7/2011, 11:35 AM
So, we're at 21 (ties last year). Any chance we break 25 this season?

Absolutely, unless every available position is filled by an unemployed coach . . .

OULenexaman
12/7/2011, 11:58 AM
Didn't Meat Chicken fire Rich Rod after their bowl? I don't recall. 5 days after....Jan.6th

badger
12/7/2011, 12:26 PM
5 days after....Jan.6th

In that case, here's a few of my nominees for post-bowl firing/going away:

Cal's Jeff Tedford: 79-47 overall, 48-38 in-conference, only improved a 5-7 season last year to a 7-5 season this year. Awaiting the Holiday Bowl. However, Tedford has a good bowl record when they go (5-2) so a win might save him. Pac 12 television money leads me to think Pac 12 coaches are gonna be hot seated a lot more, however, even with budget programs across the Golden State.

Oregon State's Mike Riley: 72-63 overall, 46-47 in-conference, has had two losing seasons in a row, including 3-9 this season. Even if he's not fired, it might be a good time to get out if a better opportunity opens up. The quacks are taking over the Pac 12 north and Leach is gonna make life miserable up there for opponents too.

Texas Tech's Tommy Tubby: 13-12 overall, 5-12 in-conference. Does an OU win save your arse? Maybe if there's no buyout on your $2 mil per year contract which you're not earning. As you can see from his overall versus in-conference record, the cupcake non-conference schedule is the only reason they don't lose more often. Tommy needs to find a different job. He's not gonna succeed at Tech and people might still remember that 2004 Auburn season before it gets older every year.

Texas' Mack Brown: 140-36 overall, 86-23 in-conference. Going from 5-7 to 7-5 is not good enough if you're making $5 million per year and just cleaned your house of all the alleged supposed problems of last year (Read: Greg Davis and I guess that sexual harassment lawsuit assistant). You were 6th in the Big 12 South last year and Texas allegedly reportedly drove two teams away from the Big 12, so where does that take your team? 6th again (tied for it, actually). Just retire, Mack. You're not going to reclaim your glory years ever.

Northwestern's Pat Fitzgerald: 40-35 overall, 21-26 in-conference. He has not had a losing season since his first season, but he will if they lose the (*snicker*) Meineke Car Care Bowl. More telling is that Pat can't compete in the Big Ten. The best he has done is tied for fourth in 08 and 09. And the worst part? N'western has NEVER won a bowl under Fitz. Will going 0-4 in bowls after this postseason finally be the final straw?

Iowa's Kirk Ferentz: 96-65 overall, 57-47 in-conference. This is one of the biggest money men in college ($3.65 million per season) and yet he hasn't won the Big Ten since 2004. Every time you think Iowa is on the verge of firing him, Kirk gets his contract year to extend and up his pay. His most recent one was 11-2 in 2009, taking the Hawkeyes to the Orange Bowl. Since then, he's gone 4-4 in the Big Ten for two seasons and is once again taking Iowa to a mid-tier bowl. How long will they put up with that?

I'll do the three other big boy conferences later, but those are my nominees in the Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac 12.

badger
12/7/2011, 01:14 PM
OK, here's my SEC nominees:

Rocky Top's Derek Dooley: 11-14 overall, 4-12 in-conference. It is becoming increasingly apparently that coaches no longer get 5 years, or 3 years. At the first sign of trouble, your millionaire arse is fired. Two losing seasons in the SEC after the way Lane Kiffin fired fans up for a single season before he bolted from Knoxville with pitchforks and torches chasing him? Dooley's days in orange pants are numbered.

MSU's Dan Mullen: 20-17 overall, 9-15 in-conference. Does a love of cowbells and two-straight bowl trips save you from inevitable fan backlash over not winning enough in the S-E-C, S-E-C? I expect Mullen to take a different job before his overall and SEC record starts to count against him.

Lott's Bandana
12/7/2011, 01:26 PM
Looks like June Jones to the PAC.

Arizona State joins Arizona, Washington State and Oregon as high-powered offense teams. A trend that flies in the face of the success of the defensive SEC SEC SEC.

badger
12/7/2011, 01:51 PM
Big East nominees:

Rutgers' Greg Schiano: 67-67 overall, 28-48 in-conference. He was a hot commodity in 2006 by going 11-2 and taking Rutgers to the... Texas Bowl?! You get 11 wins and get sent to the Texas Bowl?! Only in the Big East. He went 4-3 in the Big East this season, 1-6 last season and dating back to when he took the RU job in 2001, his bowl record is good (4-1) but he has yet to win the crappy Big East. While he's making an affordable $1.5 million per season, your patience as a coach has to run out eventually. When you can't win at your current job and another place offers you more money to leave where you might have a better chance at winning... you're gonna go.

USF's Skip Holtz: 13-12 overall, 4-10 in-conference. Surely having a famous dad and his famous name and beating Notre Dame on the road in the pouring rain gives you a pass... to get a different job as fast as possible. Going 1-6 in the Big Least this year means Skip needs to high tail outta town before anyone forgets OMG WIN AT NOTER DOMER and how well he did at East Carolina (38-27, 28-12). His $1.85 million annual salary means USF fans are not going to put up with not competing in a crappy football conference forever.

Syracuse's Doug Marrone: 17-20 overall, 6-15 in-conference. With a move to the ACC in the near future, I expect a Dan Hawkins-like dumping of Marrone in this season or the next. Getting an 8-win season for Syracuse - their first 8-win season since 2001 - is not going to save you from the fact that you are a mediocre team in a mediocre conference. How mediocre? 1-6 this season in the Big Least in both 2009 and 2011.

Here's some ACC nominees:

Maryland's Randy Edsall: 2-10 overall, 1-7 in-conference. Congrats on your crazy uniform win over Miami on national television... at the beginning of the season. But since then, it's embarrassing loss after embarrassing loss for your $2 mil per year coaching. You make more than Maryland's basketball coach?! This might stand this year, but next year... you are gonna get wrapped in Under Armour and sent rolling down a dangerous intersection in a trash container.

Boston College's Frank Spanzini: 20-19 overall, 12-12 in-conference. If we count your interim coaching job, you gave Boston College one bowl win. If we don't, you're 0-2 and not headed to one this season. There's really not much else to say. Ho hum Boston College football. About the only reason your program's mentioned now is when there's a "we hate cancer" drive or they need to show what a successful Hail Mary looks like.

NC State's Tom O'Brien: 32-30 overall, 18-22 in-conference. So even Belk has a bowl now? Well, you better enjoy it, because since you took this job in 2007, you've only taken NC State to three (including the Belk Bowl) total, going 1-1. If your five seasons, you've had a losing record three times, but they were your first three years, so you might get a free pass for now. Might.

Jason Alexander
12/7/2011, 02:29 PM
Interesting mix of big name and up and coming coaches being hired

Lott's Bandana
12/7/2011, 02:39 PM
With all these buy-outs and salaries, I shoulda been a coach. But if I had, I would NEVER go to a message board for tips.

stoops the eternal pimp
12/7/2011, 04:19 PM
And the slight glimmer of light that SMU experienced is now gone.

Lott's Bandana
12/7/2011, 04:21 PM
And the slight glimmer of light that SMU experienced is now gone.


They should hire Galloway. They deserve him.

Or CJ.

TheHumanAlphabet
12/7/2011, 04:23 PM
AP reporting Fedora to UNC...

Chron is still saying Sumlin to TAMU, though can't imagine why...

badger
12/7/2011, 04:25 PM
And the slight glimmer of light that SMU experienced is now gone.

The Big East is tough, man. Even Skip Holtz is having trouble winning there... don't you know who his dad is?!?!?!?!

stoops the eternal pimp
12/7/2011, 04:34 PM
All I know is I bet the Washington State vs Arizona State games will be highly entertaining if you love offense.

northspeter
12/7/2011, 04:52 PM
june jones will not be the next ASU coach... talks have broken down and ASU has moved on...

stoops the eternal pimp
12/7/2011, 04:57 PM
I saw talks broke down but I didn't see they moved on...Where are you seeing that?

northspeter
12/7/2011, 05:03 PM
the COO of ASU said Jones will not be the coach...

northspeter
12/7/2011, 05:04 PM
twitter...

badger
12/7/2011, 05:07 PM
june jones will not be the next ASU coach... talks have broken down and ASU has moved on...

that's a relief. can you imagine the SMU pep rally today?

June Jones: We're going to Big East!
SMU: :mad:
June Jones: We're gonna have a shot at a BCS auto bid!
SMU: :mad:
June Jones: We're gonna be in a big boy conference! The Ponies are back! We're gonna have the opportunity to compete at the highest level, not just in football, but every sport! Come ON, guys!
SMU: :mad:
June Jones: OK, ok... I'm not going to Arizona State.
SMU: :D

TopDawg
12/7/2011, 06:09 PM
Yeah, looks like the offer has been pulled. Wonder if it has anything to do with Sumlin.

Fuente is on the radar at Memphis.

TopDawg
12/7/2011, 06:11 PM
I'd be surprised to see very many post-bowl firings based solely on record. There aren't a whole lot of schools who are going to fire a coach after a bowl game. The elite programs like Michigan, OU, Texas, etc. might, but I'd be surprised to see a team like Northwestern or even Texas Tech fire a guy after a bowl game. Primarily because most of the really solid coaching candidates will have split. A school like Michigan can be confident that they can get a top-notch guy after a bowl. A school like Northwestern can't.

badger
12/7/2011, 06:19 PM
I'd be surprised to see very many post-bowl firings based solely on record. There aren't a whole lot of schools who are going to fire a coach after a bowl game. The elite programs like Michigan, OU, Texas, etc. might, but I'd be surprised to see a team like Northwestern or even Texas Tech fire a guy after a bowl game. Primarily because most of the really solid coaching candidates will have split. A school like Michigan can be confident that they can get a top-notch guy after a bowl. A school like Northwestern can't.

I wasn't necessarily saying that a coach would get fired... but rather, that a coach might look seriously at leaving while his stock is still OK or his situation isn't improving.

Salt City Sooner
12/7/2011, 10:32 PM
Yeah, looks like the offer has been pulled. Wonder if it has anything to do with Sumlin.

Fuente is on the radar at Memphis.
Just saw on the scroll on espn news that he's the guy.

Soonerfan88
12/7/2011, 10:58 PM
Fedora going to UNC

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/1136620.html

Jason Alexander
12/8/2011, 12:16 AM
It's going to be awkward in the SMU locker room when June Jones enters the room.

TUSooner
12/8/2011, 10:17 AM
You can put Tulane in the black now. Just sayin.

And I am glad they didn't hire BV, though I wish someone would.

TopDawg
12/8/2011, 10:38 AM
Updated.

Good off-season for former OU QBs.

Jim Leavitt in the discussion at Kansas.

TopDawg
12/8/2011, 05:25 PM
Wow. Weis to KU.

sooner_born_1960
12/8/2011, 05:27 PM
KU must have decided they don't really want to play football.

northspeter
12/8/2011, 06:19 PM
heard BV is on the southern miss radar... and the interest is mutual...

northspeter
12/8/2011, 06:41 PM
mark richt to a&m...?? thats the rumor from some a&m media... per there sources...

badger
12/8/2011, 06:45 PM
mark richt to a&m...?? thats the rumor from some a&m media... per there sources...

Houston Nutt: Congrats on winning the SEC East, Mark! Now that your stock is incredibly high after a single good season, there is no better time to make your school pay you more by getting your name involved in coaching search rumors!

Mark Richt: I've sucked and had below expectation seasons for awhile, though. These people were ready to fire me near the beginning of the season...

Houston: Hehehe, this is SEC.

Richt: Oh yeah. Hehehehe.

8timechamps
12/8/2011, 07:37 PM
Wow. Weis to KU.

That one surprised me. I just don't see it, but who knows.

8timechamps
12/8/2011, 07:41 PM
I also find it a little odd that Ted Roof is leaving as Auburn's DC to become the DC at UCF. Maybe there's a connection there for Roof, maybe money, maybe a promise at a future head coaching gig there? Strange.

badger
12/9/2011, 09:21 AM
For the most part, there haven't really been any dud hires yet. Thoughts?

OULenexaman
12/9/2011, 09:36 AM
1 big shocker....but no dud sightings on my radar.

TopDawg
12/9/2011, 11:00 AM
Tim Beckman to Illinois means Toledo is now open, giving us 23 + the near certainty that Houston will open up and the possibility that SMU will too.

TheHumanAlphabet
12/9/2011, 12:35 PM
KU must have decided they don't really want to play football.

This. SO they fire the Fat Man and later hire the Crippled Fat Man? I feel for Weiss, one bad surgery and he is scarred for life...Since when did he start using a cane?

swardboy
12/9/2011, 12:45 PM
For the most part, there haven't really been any dud hires yet. Thoughts?

Looks like an interesting ncaa season is shaping up for '12. When does our home and home with theOSU commence?

the-rover
12/9/2011, 01:29 PM
Looks like an interesting ncaa season is shaping up for '12. When does our home and home with theOSU commence?

2016

http://www.soonerstats.com/football/seasons/schedule.cfm?seasonid=2012

badger
12/9/2011, 02:32 PM
Does Eastern Illinois count? If so, a Baylor assistant is the new coach:

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/41609/baylor-assistant-takes-head-coaching-job

StoopTroup
12/9/2011, 02:38 PM
Has Bob Fired anyone yet?

Mississippi Sooner
12/9/2011, 02:40 PM
Has Bob Fired anyone yet?

He said he would, but it would make the Sooners too vulnerable.

StoopTroup
12/9/2011, 02:42 PM
He said he would, but it would make the Sooners too vulnerable.

:D

Jacie
12/9/2011, 09:25 PM
For the most part, there haven't really been any dud hires yet. Thoughts?

Yeah, New Mexico was really lucky to get Bob Davie before a big time football school like UCLA or Penn State could sign him first . . .

Salt City Sooner
12/10/2011, 03:10 AM
Jim Mora Jr. to UCLA.

agoo758
12/10/2011, 04:03 AM
Jim Mora Jr. to UCLA.

Dud hire number 2, in all likelyhood, but what do I know. I was the same guy who said Turner Gill was a good hire for Kansas. :D

northspeter
12/10/2011, 10:56 AM
sumlin finally to the ags.....

Jacie
12/10/2011, 09:49 PM
Penn State's next coach, the nominees are:

Penn State defensive coordinator Tom Bradley - first Penn State coach with a losing record (1-2) in 40 years
Wake Forest coach Jim Grobe
Virginia coach Mike London
Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen
Harvard coach Tim Murphy
TCU coach Gary Patterson
Boise State coach Chris Petersen
Iowa State coach Paul Rhoads
Georgia coach Mark Richt
Stanford coach David Shaw

And from the NFL:
Green Bay Packers safeties coach Darren Perry
Green Bay Packers quarterback coach Tom Clements

StoopTroup
12/10/2011, 09:55 PM
I could see Rhoads or Murphy with a real shot. Both have really turned their programs around IMHO and seem like Penn guys.

swardboy
12/11/2011, 08:03 AM
Been reading about Tom Clements. I didn't realize he is such a QB coach guru. Aaron Rodgers is a pretty good name for your resume.

badger
12/11/2011, 11:17 PM
I guess you can add Houston to the list and take Texas A&M off.