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5thYearSooner
10/24/2011, 01:25 PM
Defense:
1)Tom Wort
2)Flemming

Offense:
1) Whaley
2) Habern
3) Good(?)

JudInKC
10/24/2011, 01:31 PM
Defense:
1)Tom Wort
2)Fleming
3) Walker

Offense:
1) Whaley
2) Habern
3) Haywood
4) Daryl Williams

7 actual starters, but Jarvis Jones didn't play either and he is a key OL because he plays both OT positions.

5thYearSooner
10/24/2011, 01:41 PM
Damn injuries..every season...I hope the team will be pissed off, play with some fire...and annihilate the opposite teams going forward.

yankee
10/24/2011, 01:46 PM
Who will probably be back against K-State? I figure at least Whaley and Wort, both of which will be huge.

stoops the eternal pimp
10/24/2011, 01:47 PM
Good played and he hasn't been a starter because of his inability

primetime43
10/24/2011, 01:50 PM
blah blah blah. The two deep should be starter quality. I noticed LSU had 3 guys out. Really hurt them.

SoonerGibb7
10/24/2011, 01:58 PM
Casey Walker didn't play either.

NormanPride
10/24/2011, 02:14 PM
No wonder our run D blew if Casey was out. He's the only one that can clog the middle effectively for us. Damn, lose your best DT, your Mike and a corner and of course the D sucks. Losing Whaley and all the OL as well as our best run blocking TE made our run game a joke as well.

LSU lost a corner and a RB, but still had everyone else. We are depleted. Those who think the two deep should be starter quality are stuck in the 70s. This is the age of scholarship limits.

Sooner in Tampa
10/24/2011, 02:16 PM
Hurt players is not an excuse to lose to taco tech!!!!

5thYearSooner
10/24/2011, 02:28 PM
blah blah blah. The two deep should be starter quality. I noticed LSU had 3 guys out. Really hurt them.

I agree. We should have won with the guys we got.. Finch did well..and the defense didn't get a turnover..

NormanPride
10/24/2011, 02:29 PM
No, but it's a good reason why the game was so close. We didn't have nearly the talent edge with all those guys gone. Consider the 07 Fiesta Bowl. Half our starting D and our best players on O were out for the game. WVU kicked our butts. Injuries affect teams, everyone here complains about them out of one side of their mouth while damning anyone that uses them as an excuse out of the other. Well if it's not an excuse then why do we care that 4 out of 8 players on the line are injured along with our star RB? What does it matter that the starting middle of our D is sitting on the bench and they conveniently run up the middle on us? No excuses when they abuse our replacement corner on his first start for a former big 12 guy and when we move a safety down to replace him, abuse the safety that came in at that point? Injuries are no excuse, but that's why the game went the way it did.

5thYearSooner
10/24/2011, 02:36 PM
Injuries are no excuse, but that's why the game went the way it did.

No..the reason the game the way it did is cuz of dropped passes, missed field goals,turnover margin. FWIW look at the stats..
First Downs 24 27
Total Yards 536 572
Passing Yards 412 452
Rushing Yards 124 120
Number of Plays 80 96
Penalties-Yards 5-61 9-50
3rd Down Conversions 5-17 6-18
4th Down Conversions 2-2 1-3
Kick Return Yards 8-186 6-100
Punt Return Yards 2-25 1-22
Punts-Yards 7-42.1 6-37.3
Turnovers 2 0
Time of Possession 25:01 34:59

NormanPride
10/24/2011, 03:01 PM
Dropped passes and missed field goals are why we didn't win. It was close because we lost a goodly chunk of our team to injury.

I think we're arguing about semantics. I do not believe our team lost because of injuries. I think they made it harder to win, and we played like crap while Tech played flawlessly.

stoops the eternal pimp
10/24/2011, 03:04 PM
I wonder if this makes Stoops reconsider his philosophy about starters playing late in blowouts.

cvsooner
10/24/2011, 03:11 PM
Of course, the thing nobody has mentioned is how many players Tech has lost to injury, either, including their center who left in the first series against us. I really expected a bad snap for a fumble or something. But Tech is missing its top receiver, top running back and two defensive starters. C'est la vie.

NormanPride
10/24/2011, 03:43 PM
System offense... But the D starters should have affected them. Honestly, if we had caught the damn ball it would have.

TrophyCollector
10/24/2011, 03:59 PM
I wonder if this makes Stoops reconsider his philosophy about...

Really? You didn't have your answer by that point?

madillsoonerfan5353
10/24/2011, 04:12 PM
blah blah blah. The two deep should be starter quality. I noticed LSU had 3 guys out. Really hurt them.

^^^^^ THIS SPEK!

PLaw
10/24/2011, 04:14 PM
Hurt players is not an excuse to lose to taco tech!!!!

Tech was also missing two defensive starters at LB and NT.

They also lost their center in Q1.

I guess they aren't using those missing players as an excuse for whipping our butts.

Oh yeah, and how about that Frosh RB that had 84 yds on 16 carries?

We are OU and we should be deep enough to handle our injuries against an unranked team.

Bottom line - and excuse this rant - but it ain't players not executing, Bob. It's coaches not getting their players ready to play. You said it when you stated we got out coached and out played. You should have left it at that. You're getting paid a nice seven figure salary to insure that OU beats the teams we are supposed to beat. I can stomach a loss against a Top 10 opponent a heckuva lot better than a loss to an unranked Tech in a game we should have hung half a hundred and held them under 20.

BUMMER

OUNASH
10/24/2011, 04:25 PM
Bottom line - and excuse this rant - but it ain't players not executing, Bob. It's coaches not getting their players ready to play. You said it when you stated we got out coached and out played. You should have left it at that. You're getting paid a nice seven figure salary to insure that OU beats the teams we are supposed to beat.[U] I can stomach a loss against a Top 10 opponent a heckuva lot better than a loss to an unranked Tech in a game we should have hung half a hundred and held them under 20.

You are excused, and right on about Stoops and his coaching staff. This same crap of laying an egg year after year is getting old. Beat the teams you are supposed to beat. Losing to a better team is one thing losing to a team that is a 28 point dog is another.

thecrimsoncrusader
10/24/2011, 04:29 PM
I wonder if this makes Stoops reconsider his philosophy about starters playing late in blowouts.

With all of my intellectual might........."No."

Soonerjeepman
10/24/2011, 07:02 PM
No..the reason the game the way it did is cuz of dropped passes, missed field goals,turnover margin. FWIW look at the stats..
First Downs 24 27
Total Yards 536 572
Passing Yards 412 452
Rushing Yards 124 120
Number of Plays 80 96
Penalties-Yards 5-61 9-50
3rd Down Conversions 5-17 6-18
4th Down Conversions 2-2 1-3
Kick Return Yards 8-186 6-100
Punt Return Yards 2-25 1-22
Punts-Yards 7-42.1 6-37.3
Turnovers 2 0
Time of Possession 25:01 34:59

2 missed FG and 2/4 redzone NO td's....1 fg 1 turnover on downs

usmc-sooner
10/24/2011, 07:08 PM
very aggie like excuses. LSU benched three starters. Not to mention their QB at the front of the season plus their players who were hurt. This far into the season you have to expect to have players out due to being dinged up or injured. I would bet money that a lot of if not all of our 2 deep would start at Tech.

BoomerJ
10/24/2011, 11:17 PM
So we know that a few missing starters is not a good enough excuse to why we got our butt handed to us. Looking back at the question, does anyone know who will be back for next weeks game with KState that was hurt?

Tear Down This Wall
10/25/2011, 08:28 AM
blah blah blah. The two deep should be starter quality. I noticed LSU had 3 guys out. Really hurt them.

SEC...SEC...SEC

Tear Down This Wall
10/25/2011, 08:30 AM
No wonder our run D blew if Casey was out. He's the only one that can clog the middle effectively for us....

Sadly, you are about 93% right. Occasionally, McGee will step up and stuff a run. How many more years does super-recruit McFarland have? And, does he understand a decent college career will get him a shot at the NFL? Will anything wake him up? If not the opportunity to start, what will light a fire under this kid's ***?

dwarthog
10/25/2011, 08:47 AM
Based on what I saw, I would guess roughly 22...... Probably need to bump that up by counting special teams...

delhalew
10/25/2011, 09:02 AM
Based on what I saw, I would guess roughly 22...... Probably need to bump that up by counting special teams...

This is the right answer.

BoulderSooner79
10/25/2011, 09:09 AM
This is the right answer.

Man, you have all the answers after a loss. You can judge effort and read minds through helmets. We are not worthy.

delhalew
10/25/2011, 09:12 AM
Man, you have all the answers after a loss. You can judge effort and read minds through helmets. We are not worthy.

You can't be serious. Did you listen on the radio?

Keller Sooner
10/25/2011, 09:34 AM
I tip my hat to Tech. They came out and did what they needed to do and hung on for the win. It shouldn't matter who didn't start for OU. They lost to a 28 point dog on their home field. There's no excuse for that period. They lost because, they were not prepared.

I Am Right
10/25/2011, 11:22 AM
How many starters didn't start for the sand aggies? just wondering.

PalmBeachSooner
10/25/2011, 12:55 PM
Maybe our twos have fat girlfriends.