I think we sucked all along

[5noubus]

And didn't know it.
It's like if you have an ugly kid , do you know it? You love them unconditionally , see their best qualities and traits. Everyone tells you how cute they are and ewe and awe over them and you just believe it. I think that's what happened this year.
I mean we looked great against Texas ( but they are real ugly). And we looked ok against fsu turns out they must suck to. I don't think we want to take OUr ugly kid to the big game.

[Sooner in Tampa]

I don't know about all of that...add Fleming, Wort, and Whaley, and I think we have a completely different game. BUT, you have to play with who you have

As far as FSU goes...they seem to have finally rebounded...they beat the snot out of Maryland. They are FINALLY getting healthy from the beat down (physical) we gave them.

[MyT Oklahoma]

I dunno.. please define "suck".

[thecrimsoncrusader]

OU should have done the Bill Snyder Special on Seth ******.

[soonerlaw]

I think we just had a flat game at the wrong time... on all sides of the ball. That being said, while we are probably really, really good, we may not be elite yet. Maybe we just need some time to jell like last year. At the same time, those future games against KSU, Baylor, A&M and especially OSU just became a lot more worrisome.

[MyT Oklahoma]

I considered the game against Kansas State to be worrisome before last night. Try after our less than inspiring game against KU last week.

KSU will be a dog fight.

[TMcGee86]

I agree. I wanted to think we were championship caliber this season, but when I look back on it, there's not really much to go on. FSU is meh, Texas is gawd awful, and those are our only "big" wins. We looked just okay against pretty much everyone else. Defense looked lost at times in nearly every game. Offense looked sluggish except in spurts. That does not a championship team make.

[pphilfran]

It is the same chit every year...fans with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads....another easy undefeated season and MNC...too bad, on average, those only happen every 10 years or so in premier programs....

Annual expectations are always greatly exaggerated.;...

[MyT Oklahoma]

I believe it's also called "overrated" and in our case this year we were. How we respond next week will be interesting.

[Jack T.]

It is the same chit every year...fans with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads....another easy undefeated season and MNC...too bad, on average, those only happen every 10 years or so in premier programs....

Annual expectations are always greatly exaggerated.;...

Then we are overdue for one of "those years."

[soonercastor]

I considered the game against Kansas State to be worrisome before last night. Try after our less than inspiring game against KU last week.

KSU will be a dog fight.

I had the same feeling before last night, but for some reason now I'm not worried at all and I think we beat them convincingly.

[MyT Oklahoma]

That would depend upon which OU team shows up. I'm hoping that it's the one that we're capable of being.

[btb916]

It is the same chit every year...fans with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads....another easy undefeated season and MNC...too bad, on average, those only happen every 10 years or so in premier programs....

Annual expectations are always greatly exaggerated.;...

We didn't have unrealistic expectations this year at all. Coach Stoops even embraced it. This was the year...the team had a special purpose, and then the team came out and just didn't even give an effort in the first half...sad to go out that way.

[pphilfran]

We didn't have unrealistic expectations this year at all. Coach Stoops even embraced it. This was the year...the team had a special purpose, and then the team came out and just didn't even give an effort in the first half...sad to go out that way.

The best of teams have bad games...everyone believed they had a chance to go undefeated....some though, realize there is still a chance of a loss...history is littered with great teams that pulled a boner and lost a game....

Your expectation were too high...you expected it to happen..you believed there was no reason for it to not happen...

And now that the team has lost you blame the team instead of your exaggerated expectaions...

[cherokeebrewer]

KSU will be a dog fight.
Hope we have a Pit Bull...

[cccasooner2]

The best of teams have bad games...everyone believed they had a chance to go undefeated....some though, realize there is still a chance of a loss...history is littered with great teams that pulled a boner and lost a game....

Your expectation were too high...you expected it to happen..you believed there was no reason for it to not happen...

And now that the team has lost you blame the team instead of your exaggerated expectaions...


My exaggerated expectations were never called in to play one down on either side of the ball. If Stoops had shown some confidence in my expectations and allowed them to make one critical play, we would have won.

[btb916]

The best of teams have bad games...everyone believed they had a chance to go undefeated....some though, realize there is still a chance of a loss...history is littered with great teams that pulled a boner and lost a game....

Your expectation were too high...you expected it to happen..you believed there was no reason for it to not happen...

And now that the team has lost you blame the team instead of your exaggerated expectaions...

Bob Stoops: "My feeling is, it's about time. We need to win one." (http://normantranscript.com/oufootball/x650362217/Stoops-It-s-about-time)

Bob Stoops: Stoops "embraces" pre-season hype (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/colleges/post/_/id/4672312/bob-stoops-embraces-ou-preseason-hype)

Travis Lewis: Sooners have "embraced" championship pressure (http://oudaily.com/news/2011/jul/27/championship-pressure-business-usual-stoops-sooner/)

My expectations were the same as the team's. And of course I blame the team for losing...they played the game. You think the team isn't blaming themselves right now?

The best teams have bad games, but this wasn't an isolated incident on the road...this was at home against the worst-rated past D in the nation, coming off another weak effort against one of the worst defenses in the nation. This wasn't just "a bad game." This was a poor effort all the way around.

I'm not unrealistic. I'm not on here bashing anyone. I'm just speaking the truth...it is sad that we let the home winning streak go, our national title hopes go, and all over a poor effort.

Sure it happens...and I'll be back at it next Saturday, rooting like crazy to get the win. And then I'll be back in the stands against A&M. And if we lose against A&M, I'll be back again next year, sitting in the same spot, with the same hope at the beginning of the season. I don't feel entitled to a championship, and you've put quite a few words in my mouth...but yeah, I expected better from the boys last night. But in the end...it happens. I'm not going to hold it against anyone.

[kingsby]

We will always suck as long as

1) We don't have a dedicated special teams coach
2) Our defensive coordinator stays put.

All I want for Christmas is for Brent Vulnerable to get offered a Head Coaching job, please.

[cleller]

Have I mentioned:

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww14/cs6000/1sharkinnetgd.jpg

[soonercastor]

this was at home against the worst-rated past D in the nation.

wait what?

[missann]

In terms of national title caliber, yeah we sucked. In general, no. When I saw LSU dominate Oregon early this season, I knew we likely weren't at that level. It's all relative. :(

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Its amazing how you see these threads after a loss when we talked about them back in the spring as a weakness.

some examples

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?153202-Brent-Vulnerables-on-Al-s-show-tonight&p=3204741&viewfull=1#post3204741

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?154024-How-do-you-feel-now-compared-to-the-pre-2008-season&p=3220621&viewfull=1#post3220621

[8timechamps]

And didn't know it.
It's like if you have an ugly kid , do you know it? You love them unconditionally , see their best qualities and traits. Everyone tells you how cute they are and ewe and awe over them and you just believe it. I think that's what happened this year.
I mean we looked great against Texas ( but they are real ugly). And we looked ok against fsu turns out they must suck to. I don't think we want to take OUr ugly kid to the big game.

I quit doing that. I've seen a lot of ugly kids, and when people show me pictures, if their kids are ugly, I just say "oh, that's nice". I feel like I should perpetuate the false beliefs that parents have of their ugly-assed offspring.

[btb916]

wait what?

Am I wrong about this? I am certain I read/heard somewhere that Tech's pass defense was absolutely ranked dead last in the nation. I googled it just now and didn't see anything...I must have heard/read what I wanted to rather than the truth.

[soonermix]

The best of teams have bad games...everyone believed they had a chance to go undefeated....some though, realize there is still a chance of a loss...history is littered with great teams that pulled a boner and lost a game....

Your expectation were too high...you expected it to happen..you believed there was no reason for it to not happen...

And now that the team has lost you blame the team instead of your exaggerated expectaions...

i will admit that my expectations are exaggerated, but i don't think it is too much to ask to win a game in which we are favored by 30 at home.

[Okie35]

I don't think we were overrated at the time. If the team plays as well as it can we're still a top 5 team even w/ our kicking game shot.

[cvsooner]

Am I wrong about this? I am certain I read/heard somewhere that Tech's pass defense was absolutely ranked dead last in the nation. I googled it just now and didn't see anything...I must have heard/read what I wanted to rather than the truth. Overall Tech's defense was rated 82nd and something like 110th against the run. And we couldn't/didn't run worth a dang against them. Lousy game all way round. Defense couldn't seem to make stops. Offense couldn't get going, which put more pressure on the D. Especially first half and early third quarter. I mean, we did win the second half, 31-17. Unfortunately it was 7-24 at halftime, we missed two field goals and the field goal we made should have been a touchdown drive. We were flat, banged up, major substitutions at each of the three levels of defense, Landry was major league off and at key points when he had the ball where it needed to be, we couldn't catch it. Even our all - world All American recordsetting receiver got stripped of the ball. And Tech had to be ticked off at being a 29 point dog, and our attitude that we just NEVER get beaten at home. I partially blame Vegas for some of this, personally, in all seriousness. Point spreads do nothing but damage to the game, in my opinion.

[budbarrybob]

Heh.