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stoops the eternal pimp
10/10/2011, 04:41 PM
OU 59
ku 14

OUNASH
10/10/2011, 04:43 PM
OU - 63
Little Sisters of the Poor ( KU) - 7

Sooner95
10/10/2011, 04:44 PM
Old skool 77-nuthin...

oumartin
10/10/2011, 05:02 PM
38-17

Whet
10/10/2011, 05:12 PM
65-17

badger
10/10/2011, 05:12 PM
Let's score 71 to screw with the Pokes :stunned:

Oh and Jason Whitlock wrote this two years ago when he was still in Kansas City. Enjoy!


KANSAS CITY -- Turner Gill supporters won’t like this column primarily because I have the misfortune of being the one high-profile columnist who religiously follows Mid-American Conference football.

As a black member of the media, I know what I’m expected to do today -- shout that Gill’s hiring as Kansas’ new football coach is a bold step for college football mankind, a terrific hire by Lew Perkins and the culmination of Martin Luther King’s dream.

The problem is, unlike most of Gill’s prominent supporters in the media, I’ve actually watched his Buffalo Bulls play numerous times. Never once have I been impressed.

Not even on the night when Gill’s Bulls ended my then-12th-ranked Ball State Cardinals’ Cinderella season with a shocking 42-24 victory in the 2008 MAC championship game.

That victory -- the product of Ball State’s five-turnover, sleepwalk performance and questionable officiating -- turned Gill into Charles Barkley’s favorite candidate to replace Tommy Tuberville at Auburn and the darling of the black press.

No one cared that Ball State dominated the game (30 first downs to 18, 503 yards to 301) and the contest turned on three fluke plays in the third quarter.
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With Ball State leading 17-14, the refs robbed Ball State running back Quale Lewis of a 9-yard TD run, marking him out at the 1 despite replay angles that clearly showed Lewis breaking the goal line.

Two plays later, Ball State quarterback Nate Davis fumbled the ball while diving into the end zone, and the Bulls scooped up the ball and raced 90-plus yards for a go-ahead TD.

On Ball State’s next possession, the Cardinals quickly drove to the Buffalo 15, when Davis inexplicably fumbled again, and the Bulls scored on another long fumble return.

My Cards never recovered.

Look, I’m not a still-bitter fan. I’m an informed one. Most of the people championing Gill as college football’s Tony Dungy just haven’t seen his teams play. I have. It’s not pretty.

In 2008, he won the MAC East with a 5-3 record in a year when the MAC’s four best teams all played in the West. It was the equivalent of winning the Big 12 North in 2009, the difference being Nebraska won the North with a Bo Pelini-crafted defense.

That’s what’s missing when I’ve watched the Bulls. I’ve never seen a strategic advantage. I never got a sense the Bulls did anything special on offense, defense or special teams.

A year ago, Gill was in the right place when Ball State melted down and the benefactor of Charles Barkley’s tantrum when Auburn hired Gene Chizik, a white coach who got a prime SEC job after one 2-10 season at Iowa State.

OK, so this has been a long-winded ramble to say that Turner Gill is going to have to win me over. I’m not dancing on rooftops. I’m disappointed Perkins didn’t land Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh.

I’m surprised Perkins didn’t hire East Carolina’s Skip Holtz. I’m shocked Houston’s Kevin Sumlin didn’t enthusiastically pursue the Kansas job.

Gill is a reach. His overall record is 20-30. He does have Dungy’s quiet charisma and overpowering integrity. Uh, but Dungy made his football reputation by playing the NFL’s best Cover 2 defense -- the Tampa 2.

When Dungy led the Colts to the Super Bowl title, his Cover 2 defense carried Peyton Manning’s sputtering offense throughout the playoffs.

Dungy had a strategic advantage. And let’s not forget that Gill’s coaching mentor, Tom Osborne, cultivated and developed a deadly, perfect-for-Nebraska option attack out of the I formation.

Father Tom was a great offensive mind.

Gill is a great human being. He allegedly won over Perkins by assembling commitments from some of the top assistant coaches in college football, including offensive coordinator Chuck Long and defensive coordinator Carl Torbush.

Long had a fabulous run as offensive coordinator at Oklahoma. He flopped as a head coach at San Diego State. Torbush, the current defensive coordinator at Mississippi State, has a sparkling reputation as a defensive guru, earned while working for Mack Brown at North Carolina. A terrible rash of injuries and impatience undermined Torbush’s three-year run as successor to Mack Brown at UNC.

Two other former head coaches are expected to be on Gill’s first staff at Kansas.

So it appears Gill can certainly recruit qualified coaches. Maybe he’ll be a combination of Mack Brown and Tom Osborne.

A top recruiter who can attract big-time prospects and assistant coaches and a high-character leader and motivator who can heal the wounds Mark Mangino left with players and boosters might be the proper mix for Kansas.

I’ll give Gill two years before offering a strong opinion.

SoonerofAlabama
10/10/2011, 05:13 PM
3-0. OU

(So, I'll be surprised when I watch the game.)

Keller Sooner
10/10/2011, 05:31 PM
Sooners - 63
Gawks -14

ouwasp
10/10/2011, 05:36 PM
Remember 1975!!!
Remember 1984!!!

Any wins KU got during the Gibbs/Blake/Schnelly yrs prolly don't count as flukes, but those two sure were... so, add 84 and 75, divide, the answer is 79.5

OU needs to win 79-5.

cccasooner2
10/10/2011, 06:42 PM
OU - 73
KU - 0

Soonerman82
10/10/2011, 06:43 PM
OU 72
KU 3

birddog
10/10/2011, 06:45 PM
might as well play this one for gerald moore.

OU 56
KU 6.

extra bye weeks rule.

MyT Oklahoma
10/10/2011, 06:47 PM
OU 66
K Who 0

Soonerjeepman
10/10/2011, 06:49 PM
I'd say 50's to teens...

now if Bell plays in the 2nd I say run our reg offense...and let the chips fall where they may...

deweydw
10/10/2011, 06:49 PM
OU - 65
KU - 10

SoonerPride
10/10/2011, 06:49 PM
OU 70
KU 3

mhackl
10/10/2011, 06:54 PM
OU 59 KU 6

OU could hang a bill on this KU D, but I think that Landry will only play the first half of the game as well as the rest of the starters. The second half will likely be played by names we've never heard of. Therefore, I go conservative on the OU score.

8timechamps
10/10/2011, 06:56 PM
We're gonna hang a hundred on them!

OU 101
KU 2 (last play of the game...Stoops feels bad about the score and orders Gabe Ikard to snap the ball 75 yards, out of the back of the endzone).

Boomer.....
10/10/2011, 07:02 PM
58-10

mOUse
10/10/2011, 07:02 PM
38-0 at half, 58-3 final.
Landry is benched on OU's 2nd posession in the 3rd qtr, after 375 yards 4TD's no INT's. Drew Allen 8/12 115 yrds on two posessions (all runs in the red zone), Blake Bell 3/5 for 39 yards (all runs inside of 40 yards). I think OU will show mercy to KU prefering to kick FG's while giving both QB's and the Kicker as well as special teams some quality time.

Blue
10/10/2011, 07:17 PM
52-9. OU

MHSooner
10/10/2011, 07:35 PM
OU 52
KU 13

:courage:

Iam4OUru
10/10/2011, 08:15 PM
55-17

No, wait...that was last week.

Soonerjesse27
10/10/2011, 08:46 PM
OU 65

KU 6

starclassic tama
10/10/2011, 09:13 PM
somewhat lethargic game, kansas is too bad for it to even matter

52-10 sooners

toast
10/10/2011, 09:54 PM
OU offense - 48
OU defense - 14
KU - 10

8timechamps
10/10/2011, 09:57 PM
somewhat lethargic game, kansas is too bad for it to even matter

52-10 sooners

You know your team is good, when a "lethargic" performance results in a 52-10 victory.

Soonerntxs
10/11/2011, 09:27 AM
SOONERS 77
DIRTY BIRDS 3

soonermix
10/11/2011, 09:40 AM
61-13

sooneron
10/11/2011, 09:41 AM
Paperclips - 48
jaybirds - 13

I think we start a little slow due to the texass hangover and commit to the running game. Thus, 2-3 fewer drives.

Orange aggy claims Big 12 champeenship due to beating them by more.

SoonerTank
10/11/2011, 01:48 PM
Oklahoma 59
KU 10

OU_Sooners75
10/11/2011, 02:00 PM
OU 63
KU 10

Okie35
10/11/2011, 02:02 PM
70-10.

texas bandman
10/11/2011, 02:38 PM
OU -49 KU - 14

agoo758
10/11/2011, 07:36 PM
OU 70

KU 10

vtsooner21
10/11/2011, 09:47 PM
Sooners 57
Jayhawks 17

Boomer

salth2o
10/11/2011, 10:11 PM
OU 58
KU 9

soonerboy_odanorth
10/11/2011, 10:38 PM
Flatsville again. Landry can't hit the deep throws. Receivers have developed a case of the dropsies. We can't run the football. The D still gives up too many big plays. The kickoff coverage is horrendous. We can't kick a FG over 30.

OU 27
KU 23








(sorry STEP, that's as close as I can get to us losing this week. :D)

ouduckhunter
10/12/2011, 12:13 AM
OU 62-10

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/12/2011, 01:00 AM
117-6, before the Iniversity of Kansas President cries "uncle"

SoonerBread
10/12/2011, 03:43 AM
OU 45
KU 16

Dan Thompson
10/12/2011, 08:28 AM
The score will be whatever Stoops wants it to be.

Dio
10/12/2011, 09:32 AM
OU 77
KU -11

oudivesherpa
10/12/2011, 12:14 PM
The Line is 35, the game is in Larwence--OU 56, KU 14

OU Sooners
10/12/2011, 01:08 PM
I see a shut out!

63-0

PhiDeltBeers
10/12/2011, 02:01 PM
If scoring negative points is a possibility, I think we see KU do it in this game.

Dan Thompson
10/12/2011, 03:34 PM
The highest score under Stoops is 77-0 against aTm. Maybe OU will breack that record. In any case we have a great opportunity to practice our kick return coverage.

stoopified
10/12/2011, 03:46 PM
OU 180-0(new all-time score).Ok ,reallistically OU 63-10

Wishboned
10/12/2011, 03:46 PM
The highest score under Stoops is 77-0 against aTm. Maybe OU will breack that record. In any case we have a great opportunity to practice our kick return coverage.

79-10 vs. North Texas in 2007

SunnySooner
10/12/2011, 04:17 PM
73-6. We gotta score more than orange aggy, we'll NEVER hear the end of it if we don't.

VA Sooner
10/12/2011, 08:33 PM
OU 52
KU 6

SoonerPride
10/12/2011, 08:41 PM
I want a shut out.

I'm revising my score to 70-0.

If KU scores at all I'll be disappointed.

ouengineer97
10/12/2011, 08:45 PM
77-0

PalmettoSooner
10/12/2011, 09:41 PM
OU 48
KU 13

MyT Oklahoma
10/13/2011, 06:05 PM
Come and see Ryan break the NCAA receiving record because KU is going to die.

P.S. Bump.

IslandSooner
10/14/2011, 07:42 AM
OU...45
KU...24

stoopified
10/15/2011, 06:59 PM
The highest score under Stoops is 77-0 against aTm. Maybe OU will breack that record. In any case we have a great opportunity to practice our kick return coverage.Actually the high point total of the Stoops era is 79-10 vs. North Texas in Bradford's debut.

Stooper
10/15/2011, 07:32 PM
OU-63
KU-17

SoonerKnight
10/15/2011, 07:44 PM
OU-65
KU-3

sooneron
10/17/2011, 01:51 PM
Sooner Bread wins it! I was close, tho!

stoops the eternal pimp
10/17/2011, 07:03 PM
OU 45
KU 16

WINNER!!!