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RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/6/2011, 01:52 PM
His show today is up there with his best, and those who are angry with the banks are schooled, and enlightened today. Tis a shame people buy into the Leftist crap, but sadly, many still do. Anyway, read the show's transcript today. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/

The show's still going on for another hour, today. The transcript will be available. Well worth reading, for those still not REALLY familiar with his show.

JohnnyMack
10/6/2011, 02:48 PM
I would rather have my balls eaten by piranhas than read a transcript of his show.

OULenexaman
10/6/2011, 03:25 PM
I don't think piranhas would even eat your balls....:cower:

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/6/2011, 07:24 PM
go

MR2-Sooner86
10/6/2011, 07:44 PM
I thought his tribute to Steve Jobs was nice.

It is funny though that many of these Wall Street protesters hate corporations yet love Apple. These same people hate "big oil" yet Apple just announced they made more profit than big oil. They protest that corporations are "wanting to take over our lives" yet Apple and Jobs were never shy about how they wanted complete control over you.

The raging hard-on for Apple I'll never get. I like their products but the cult that follows them is something else.

SicEmBaylor
10/6/2011, 07:52 PM
I would rather have my balls eaten by piranhas than read a transcript of his show.

I would also rather have JM's balls eaten by piranhas than read a transcript of his show. ;)

Seriously though...I'd rather eat monkey **** and slit my wrists with a rusty scalpel.

SicEmBaylor
10/6/2011, 07:55 PM
I thought his tribute to Steve Jobs was nice.

It is funny though that many of these Wall Street protesters hate corporations yet love Apple. These same people hate "big oil" yet Apple just announced they made more profit than big oil. They protest that corporations are "wanting to take over our lives" yet Apple and Jobs were never shy about how they wanted complete control over you.

The raging hard-on for Apple I'll never get. I like their products but the cult that follows them is something else.

Rush is a big-time mac guy. I know he admired Jobs.

There are a lot of legitimate criticisms of corporations and the American banking system, but 99% of these idiots are just "cause leftists" protesting the current 'cause de jour'. It's a shame really because it clouds a legitimate discussion of the problems associated with global corporations and our centralized banking system.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/6/2011, 08:29 PM
I would also rather have JM's balls eaten by piranhas than read a transcript of his show. ;)

Seriously though...I'd rather eat monkey **** and slit my wrists with a rusty scalpel.ewe go

TUSooner
10/6/2011, 08:36 PM
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There are a lot of legitimate criticisms of corporations and the American banking system, but 99% of these idiots are just "cause leftists" protesting the current 'cause de jour'. It's a shame really because it clouds a legitimate discussion of the problems associated with global corporations and our centralized banking system.

Y'know, I'm getting pretty tired of agreeing with you. You need to start up a Civil War thread so I can go back to bashing you! :biggrin:

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/6/2011, 08:59 PM
Rush is a big-time mac guy. I know he admired Jobs.

There are a lot of legitimate criticisms of corporations and the American banking system, but 99% of these idiots are just "cause leftists" protesting the current 'cause de jour'. It's a shame really because it clouds a legitimate discussion of the problems associated with global corporations and our centralized banking system.Someone called and asked him specifically about the banks making the ridiculous loans, and Limbaugh said basically that what the banks did was damaging to the economy, but reminded all as to WHY they made the bad loans. They did so under fear of sanctions/penalties/redtributions by congress if they didn't make the loans they were being required to make. So, to condemn the banks is to ignore the real cause-democrat politicians, as almost is always the case when the economy gets meddled with.

diverdog
10/6/2011, 09:40 PM
Someone called and asked him specifically about the banks making the ridiculous loans, and Limbaugh said basically that what the banks did was damaging to the economy, but reminded all as to WHY they made the bad loans. They did so under fear of sanctions/penalties/redtributions by congress if they didn't make the loans they were being required to make. So, to condemn the banks is to ignore the real cause-democrat politicians, as almost is always the case when the economy gets meddled with.

And that proves two things:

1. Rush is full of ****.

And

2. In Rush's world 2+2=22.

He is one of the most uniformed person's on the planet.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/6/2011, 09:46 PM
And that proves two things:

1. Rush is full of ****.

And

2. In Rush's world 2+2=22.

He is one of the most uniformed person's on the planet.Your comments are predictable from your persuasion, but I do applaud you for not being overly insulting

cleller
10/6/2011, 09:47 PM
Someone called and asked him specifically about the banks making the ridiculous loans, and Limbaugh said basically that what the banks did was damaging to the economy, but reminded all as to WHY they made the bad loans. They did so under fear of sanctions/penalties/redtributions by congress if they didn't make the loans they were being required to make. So, to condemn the banks is to ignore the real cause-democrat politicians, as almost is always the case when the economy gets meddled with.

So the government wants everyone to be able to own a home, (a silly idea) and wants the banks to make it happen. The banks find a way to do this (outrageously irresponsible) and make tons of cash, only to lose it when the deadbeats they gave the money don't pay them back.
Luckily, congress can set up these hearings to ambush the banks, and save face.

SicEmBaylor
10/6/2011, 09:54 PM
Y'know, I'm getting pretty tired of agreeing with you. You need to start up a Civil War thread so I can go back to bashing you! :biggrin:

Funny you should mention that. I was just thinking how long its been since we had a good knuckle fight over that war. I just picked up a book that may provide a good catalyst for discussion. :D

diverdog
10/6/2011, 10:13 PM
So the government wants everyone to be able to own a home, (a silly idea) and wants the banks to make it happen. The banks find a way to do this (outrageously irresponsible) and make tons of cash, only to lose it when the deadbeats they gave the money don't pay them back.
Luckily, congress can set up these hearings to ambush the banks, and save face.

CRA ,lending is a fraction of the total mortgage market and if all those loans went south they in and of themselves could not have collapsed the economy. Most of the regional banks collapsed because of commercial real estate losses. The vast majority of sub prime loans were done by brokers and not banks.

The real driver in all of this is the rating agencies. For instance in a sample of 2,679 residential mortgage-backed issues originated between 2004 and 2007 with a current balance of over $100 million and totaling $564 billion in face value, 2,670 or 99 percent were rated triple-A at origination. Today, 90 percent of these bonds are rated non-investment grade (below triple-B minus) by both count and dollar balances. The miss rating of these investments by The rating agencies created a false sense of confidence and eventually led to disaster with the collapse of the derivative market.

Poor people were only a small part of the fall of the US economy. The rest of it lies squarely on the shoulders of Wall Street.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 12:24 AM
So the government wants everyone to be able to own a home, (a silly idea) and wants(requires) the banks to make it happen. The banks find an unworkable way to do this (outrageously irresponsible) and make tons of cash, only to lose it when the deadbeats they gave the money don't pay them back.
Luckily, the democrats can set up these hearings to ambush the banks, and save face. Especially with the help they will get from the MSM FIFY, and good post!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 01:27 AM
CRA ,lending is a fraction of the total mortgage market and if all those loans went south they in and of themselves could not have collapsed the economy. Most of the regional banks collapsed because of commercial real estate losses. The vast majority of sub prime loans were done by brokers and not banks.

The real driver in all of this is the rating agencies. For instance in a sample of 2,679 residential mortgage-backed issues originated between 2004 and 2007 with a current balance of over $100 million and totaling $564 billion in face value, 2,670 or 99 percent were rated triple-A at origination. Today, 90 percent of these bonds are rated non-investment grade (below triple-B minus) by both count and dollar balances. The miss rating of these investments by The rating agencies created a false sense of confidence and eventually led to disaster with the collapse of the derivative market.

Poor people were only a small part of the fall of the US economy. The rest of it lies squarely on the shoulders of Wall Street.lemme get this straight. The nationwide housing collapse was a result of some bad commercial real estate loans?

diverdog
10/7/2011, 04:43 AM
lemme get this straight. The nationwide housing collapse was a result of some bad commercial real estate loans?

Right now that is true. The bank I worked for collapsed because of bad commercial real estate loans. We were one of the nations oldest and most respected trust companies.

Banks have never been told by the government to make stupid CRA loans. Our CRA portfolio was fine. The bank I work for now has the same experience. CRA loans failed at a little higher rate overall than regular mortgages but there is just not enough of them to do this kind of damage. A lot of it was due to speculation on the part of a lot of homeowners who used their home as a bank. And a huge part were greedy mortgage brokers who did no doc loans to highly unqualified buyers putting them in homes based on stated income. In many cases the broker made up the income. Where a company like BOA got into trouble was through its purchase of Countrywide and Merrill. Both had huge exposure to either bad loans or bad investments.

Rush your buddy Rush's job is to make every thing seem political and simplistic. That is what good propagandist do. Our collapse was due to a lot of very sophisticated causes and it would take a lot more than some radio jock to explain it to the masses. Rush does not want guest on who will prove him wrong. When you have a situation like that you are not getting the whole story and you sure as hell are not getting all of the facts.

TUSooner
10/7/2011, 07:30 AM
Rush your buddy Rush's job is to make every thing seem political and simplistic. That is what good propagandist do. Our collapse was due to a lot of very sophisticated causes and it would take a lot more than some radio jock to explain it to the masses. Rush does not want guest on who will prove him wrong. When you have a situation like that you are not getting the whole story and you sure as hell are not getting all of the facts.

Rush reminds me of that kind of fundamentalist preacher who finds satan worship in everything from Halloween to Christmas to children's TV and pop music. EVERYTHING ALWAYS points to "liberal Democrats" as the root of every problem. He keeps repeating it, and his disciples keep hearing it to the exclusion of all other thoughts, until finally Dems are not just wrong, they are EVIL and the cause if all evil. Rush is not a fool, but he makes many fools.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 09:48 AM
YU and DD, I have observed poolitics for MANY years, and as you guys know, but won't openly admit, probably not even to yourselves, the Democrat Party, and the RINOS that go along with their socialism and corruption, are responsible for the fiscally abusive and collapsing social programs and overall outa control government we have.

I know you guys are in the Left's camp, and not about to alter your opinions, but perhaps some will.

JohnnyMack
10/7/2011, 09:49 AM
YU and DD, I have observed poolitics for MANY years, and as you guys know, but won't openly admit, probably not even to yourselves, the Democrat Party, and the RINOS that go along with their socialism and corruption, are responsible for the fiscally abusive and collapsing social programs and overall outa control government we have.

I know you guys are in the Left's camp, and not about to alter your opinions, but perhaps some will.

I had Grape Nuts for breakfast, with some soy milk. A little coffee on the side.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 09:52 AM
I had Grape Nuts for breakfast, with some soy milk. A little coffee on the side, and joyfully rrefrained from reading ANYTHING Limbaugh says, since I don't want to have to consider he could well be correct that the Left is a POS sham.FIFA

OULenexaman
10/7/2011, 10:06 AM
I had Grape Nuts for breakfast, with some soy milk. A little coffee on the side. You had breakfast with Michelle and Pelosi??

badger
10/7/2011, 11:50 AM
Rush has made tons of money over the years, but alas, it was from where he got his paycheck that he couldn't do something he loved: The NFL, either as a commentator or an owner.

So, in some ways I sympathize with him, because he is walking talking stereotype that some will never take seriously because of the expectation for him to always exert a certain opinion, which people in advance anticipate they will disagree with, so they completely ignore it before giving it a chance (kind of like the Family Guy episode illustrated).

That said, I'm still not going to visit his site to see what he said, not because I hate Rush or Rush's clone, but because I already know what he said. And I already know that it's wrong of me to have that expectation, but alas, it's the way it is.

TUSooner
10/7/2011, 01:31 PM
Rush has made tons of money over the years, but alas, it was from where he got his paycheck that he couldn't do something he loved: The NFL, either as a commentator or an owner.

So, in some ways I sympathize with him, because he is walking talking stereotype that some will never take seriously because of the expectation for him to always exert a certain opinion, which people in advance anticipate they will disagree with, so they completely ignore it before giving it a chance (kind of like the Family Guy episode illustrated).

That said, I'm still not going to visit his site to see what he said, not because I hate Rush or Rush's clone, but because I already know what he said. And I already know that it's wrong of me to have that expectation, but alas, it's the way it is.

This is good. I too feel sorry that Rush didn't get into the NFL. He got a raw deal there and with his TV gig as well. (Free speech is OK, but unprofitable speech gets squelched.) But he's partly to blame for always touting his near-paranoid. almost gnostic world view that sees everything, even sports, in terms of Noble Conservatism vs The Liberal Conspiracy.

badger
10/7/2011, 01:43 PM
The NFL is one place that I would have actually paid attention to him, but after years of being forced to listen to him in the backseat of dad driving to the middle of nowhere while he looked for some rare bird (if you had to endure this also I have extreme sympathy with you... either with or without listening to Rush), I'd rather not anymore.

So... that's where Rush loses a lot of his credibility and potential audience, the fact that everyone has a certain expectation for him and thus he'll never go beyond doing what he current does. Not that it's a bad gig. I'm sure he's made millions off of it.

sappstuf
10/7/2011, 01:44 PM
This is good. I too feel sorry that Rush didn't get into the NFL. He got a raw deal there and with his TV gig as well. (Free speech is OK, but unprofitable speech gets squelched.) But he's partly to blame for always touting his near-paranoid. almost gnostic world view that sees everything, even sports, in terms of Noble Conservatism vs The Liberal Conspiracy.

To be fair, he COULD have warned the Vikings that McNabb is an overrated suckfest.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 01:46 PM
Rush has made tons of money over the years, but alas, it was from where he got his paycheck that he couldn't do something he loved: The NFL, either as a commentator or an owner.

So, in some ways I sympathize with him, because he is walking talking stereotype that some will never take seriously because of the expectation for him to always exert a certain opinion, which people in advance anticipate they will disagree with, so they completely ignore it before giving it a chance (kind of like the Family Guy episode illustrated).

That said, I'm still not going to visit his site to see what he said, not because I hate Rush or Rush's clone, but because I already know what he said. And I already know that it's wrong of me to have that expectation, but alas, it's the way it is.the purpose of the thread is to encourage those who really DON'T know much about him. Those who hear the MSM talk their BS about him, and call him a liar or misinformed, etc. A good opportunity to hear one of his better shows, in which he discusses very pertinent subjects(pertinent to how you would vote)

SicEmBaylor
10/7/2011, 01:58 PM
This is good. I too feel sorry that Rush didn't get into the NFL. He got a raw deal there and with his TV gig as well. (Free speech is OK, but unprofitable speech gets squelched.) But he's partly to blame for always touting his near-paranoid. almost gnostic world view that sees everything, even sports, in terms of Noble Conservatism vs The Liberal Conspiracy.

Right. And that schtick gets old after awhile. From 8th-fish year in college, I was a Rush fanatic. I tried to never miss an entire show, and I taped what I could. I was a Rush 24/7 member on his website, and I even bought one of those ugly-*** "No Boundaries" ties. I was also a committed fan of Sean Hannity.

It was really Sean Hannity that opened my eyes. Hannity is even worse than Rush with a "us v. them" world view. Hannity was repeating all of the same things over and over and over again regardless of the situation. He had his script and just plugged in the talking points to match whatever the issue of the day was. I finally started thinking to myself, "I don't need this guy to help me understand politics or analyze the issues." It was almost as if a lightbulb went off in my head when I realized that I was way too smart to need radio-jocks to tell me what to think about a situation. I know that may sound arrogant and conceited, but it's the truth and it applies to a LOT of people who are devoted fans of both these guys. The realization that I could think for myself was one of the most liberating events in my life.

The result is that I stopped listening, and I now have a much deeper and far broader understanding of what is going on in the country and the world. The degree to which jocks like Hannity simply regurgitate talking points never ceases to astound me. Rush isn't quite as bad as Hannity in that regard, but at the end of the day both are equally useless.

I also realized that it isn't about "us v. them." In college, I was very politically active in a couple of conservative student organizations in addition to a countless number of campaigns. It was always a war like mentality with everyone. The zeal to defeat the enemy was all-consuming and nobody ever really stopped to consider the fact that the "enemy" was not evil (they were simply wrong most of the time). Very rarely did anyone have a truly deep conversation about the issues we were talking about or the political philosophy that gave birth to those individual issues. The exception was my first year or two in the Baylor chapter of the group that I belonged to. We would often go out and eat or do something together and the debates were VERY rough. I was a state champion debater in HS, but nothing prepared me for having EVERY single one of my views constantly challenged. You had to constantly explain yourself and explain why you believed what you believed. The name of the game was to play devil's advocate and force you to back up what you believe. You had to have "meat" behind your views or you were dismissed and/or ridiculed. It was rough but it was one of the best educations I had in college.

I know this is a long story, but the point is simple: Nobody needs a guy like Rush and Hannity to tell you about the world, politics, issues, or what to think. You're capable of doing that yourself; you just have to become secure in your beliefs and really work to understand why you think the way you think.

Besides...the Rush ties are ugly as hell. ;)

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 02:06 PM
Right. And that schtick gets old after awhile. From 8th-fish year in college, I was a Rush fanatic. I tried to never miss an entire show, and I taped what I could. I was a Rush 24/7 member on his website, and I even bought one of those ugly-*** "No Boundaries" ties. I was also a committed fan of Sean Hannity.

It was really Sean Hannity that opened my eyes. Hannity is even worse than Rush with a "us v. them" world view. Hannity was repeating all of the same things over and over and over again regardless of the situation. He had his script and just plugged in the talking points to match whatever the issue of the day was. I finally started thinking to myself, "I don't need this guy to help me understand politics or analyze the issues." It was almost as if a lightbulb went off in my head when I realized that I was way too smart to need radio-jocks to tell me what to think about a situation. I know that may sound arrogant and conceited, but it's the truth and it applies to a LOT of people who are devoted fans of both these guys. The realization that I could think for myself was one of the most liberating events in my life.

The result is that I stopped listening, and I now have a much deeper and far broader understanding of what is going on in the country and the world. The degree to which jocks like Hannity simply regurgitate talking points never ceases to astound me. Rush isn't quite as bad as Hannity in that regard, but at the end of the day both are equally useless.

I also realized that it isn't about "us v. them." In college, I was very politically active in a couple of conservative student organizations in addition to a countless number of campaigns. It was always a war like mentality with everyone. The zeal to defeat the enemy was all-consuming and nobody ever really stopped to consider the fact that the "enemy" was not evil (they were simply wrong most of the time). Very rarely did anyone have a truly deep conversation about the issues we were talking about or the political philosophy that gave birth to those individual issues. The exception was my first year or two in the Baylor chapter of the group that I belonged to. We would often go out and eat or do something together and the debates were VERY rough. I was a state champion debater in HS, but nothing prepared me for having EVERY single one of my views constantly challenged. You had to constantly explain yourself and explain why you believed what you believed. The name of the game was to play devil's advocate and force you to back up what you believe. You had to have "meat" behind your views or you were dismissed and/or ridiculed. It was rough but it was one of the best educations I had in college.

I know this is a long story, but the point is simple: Nobody needs a guy like Rush and Hannity to tell you about the world, politics, issues, or what to think. You're capable of doing that yourself; you just have to become secure in your beliefs and really work to understand why you think the way you think.

Besides...the Rush ties are ugly as hell. ;)and now, you're thinking "Vote Ron Paul!"

badger
10/7/2011, 02:18 PM
To be fair, he COULD have warned the Vikings that McNabb is an overrated suckfest.

He did, that's why I fired him :D


the purpose of the thread is to encourage those who really DON'T know much about him. Those who hear the MSM talk their BS about him, and call him a liar or misinformed, etc. A good opportunity to hear one of his better shows, in which he discusses very pertinent subjects(pertinent to how you would vote)

Yeah, and that's why I posted what I did. Nothing against you (except never trying vBookie) but I just can't stand listening to the guy after being forced to for years. Even as a lifelong Republican, I couldn't stand him. The last time I tuned in to hear him was the Family Guy episode and the time before that was when he was an NFL commentator.

I just can't take Rush anymore. It's was child abuse!!!!!!

SicEmBaylor
10/7/2011, 02:21 PM
and now, you're thinking "Vote Ron Paul!"
You bet I do, and I reached that conclusion entirely on my own.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 02:22 PM
For those that have been in a root cellar for years, or on a turnip truck, whatever, through their adult years, you should know that the reason Limbaugh, Levin, etc. are popular and profitable is they are a welcome change from the Leftist crap and democrat partisanship of the MSM. It is quite refreshing to hear someone extoll the opinions which you, the listener has, for a change. One has to continue to wonder why and how the MSM got to be such Leftist Tools.

OULenexaman
10/7/2011, 02:23 PM
Rush is still very entertaining to me......even moreso now with this administration of bozo's.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 02:26 PM
He did, that's why I fired him :D



Yeah, and that's why I posted what I did. Nothing against you (except never trying vBookie) but I just can't stand listening to the guy after being forced to for years. Even as a lifelong Republican, I couldn't stand him. The last time I tuned in to hear him was the Family Guy episode and the time before that was when he was an NFL commentator.

I just can't take Rush anymore. It's was child abuse!!!!!!You vote for some D's. I understand.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 02:27 PM
Rush is still very entertaining to me......even moreso now with this administration of bozo's.Dude has an AMAZING memory and logic. I'm proud he is my clone.

JohnnyMack
10/7/2011, 02:28 PM
For those that have been in a root cellar for years, or on a turnip truck, whatever, through their adult years, you should know that the reason Limbaugh, Levin, etc. are popular and profitable is they are a welcome change from the Leftist crap and democrat partisanship of the MSM. It is quite refreshing to hear someone extoll the opinions which you, the listener has, for a change. One has to continue to wonder why and how the MSM got to be such Leftist Tools.

Dichotomy sells commercials.

Common sense is boring.

badger
10/7/2011, 02:40 PM
You vote for some D's. I understand.

And you're never gonna let me forget it! Jari Askins and a recent-Republican-turned-Dem state Senator. Oooooo, I'm soooo liberal grrrrrrrrrrrrr

SicEmBaylor
10/7/2011, 02:50 PM
And you're never gonna let me forget it! Jari Askins and a recent-Republican-turned-Dem state Senator. Oooooo, I'm soooo liberal grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Don't feel bad. I've voted for a handful of Democrats over the years, and nobody is more conservative than I am.

The last Democrat I voted for was Sam Houston for SCOT. I would probably consider the possibility of voting for Dan Boren if he were running again.

diverdog
10/7/2011, 02:55 PM
Right. And that schtick gets old after awhile. From 8th-fish year in college, I was a Rush fanatic. I tried to never miss an entire show, and I taped what I could. I was a Rush 24/7 member on his website, and I even bought one of those ugly-*** "No Boundaries" ties. I was also a committed fan of Sean Hannity.

It was really Sean Hannity that opened my eyes. Hannity is even worse than Rush with a "us v. them" world view. Hannity was repeating all of the same things over and over and over again regardless of the situation. He had his script and just plugged in the talking points to match whatever the issue of the day was. I finally started thinking to myself, "I don't need this guy to help me understand politics or analyze the issues." It was almost as if a lightbulb went off in my head when I realized that I was way too smart to need radio-jocks to tell me what to think about a situation. I know that may sound arrogant and conceited, but it's the truth and it applies to a LOT of people who are devoted fans of both these guys. The realization that I could think for myself was one of the most liberating events in my life.

The result is that I stopped listening, and I now have a much deeper and far broader understanding of what is going on in the country and the world. The degree to which jocks like Hannity simply regurgitate talking points never ceases to astound me. Rush isn't quite as bad as Hannity in that regard, but at the end of the day both are equally useless.

I also realized that it isn't about "us v. them." In college, I was very politically active in a couple of conservative student organizations in addition to a countless number of campaigns. It was always a war like mentality with everyone. The zeal to defeat the enemy was all-consuming and nobody ever really stopped to consider the fact that the "enemy" was not evil (they were simply wrong most of the time). Very rarely did anyone have a truly deep conversation about the issues we were talking about or the political philosophy that gave birth to those individual issues. The exception was my first year or two in the Baylor chapter of the group that I belonged to. We would often go out and eat or do something together and the debates were VERY rough. I was a state champion debater in HS, but nothing prepared me for having EVERY single one of my views constantly challenged. You had to constantly explain yourself and explain why you believed what you believed. The name of the game was to play devil's advocate and force you to back up what you believe. You had to have "meat" behind your views or you were dismissed and/or ridiculed. It was rough but it was one of the best educations I had in college.

I know this is a long story, but the point is simple: Nobody needs a guy like Rush and Hannity to tell you about the world, politics, issues, or what to think. You're capable of doing that yourself; you just have to become secure in your beliefs and really work to understand why you think the way you think.

Besides...the Rush ties are ugly as hell. ;)

I listenened to Rush for years when I worked in outside sales. Never missed a show. Somewhere Rush changed and he became an egomaniac. I moved on and started listening to the G Man Liddy. Sadly now all the talk shows are about screaming and nd hysteria so I have turned them off.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 03:18 PM
I listenened to Rush for years when I worked in outside sales. Never missed a shoe. Somewhere Rush changed and he became an egomaniac. I moved on and started listening to the G Man Liddy. Sadly now all the tslk shows are about sceaming and hysteria so I have turned them off.haha,VERY persuasive...wait, what? you think the conservative talk shows are wrong, or what?

SicEmBaylor
10/7/2011, 03:22 PM
haha,VERY persuasive...wait, what? you think the conservative talk shows are wrong, or what?
He can give his own opinion, but let me answer that one for myself.

I do find a lot of what they say to be wrong (none more so than Levin and Hannity), but what I really take issue with are people who call them "conservative." They're not conservative; they're right-wing nationalists.

TUSooner
10/7/2011, 03:27 PM
He can give his own opinion, but let me answer that one for myself.

I do find a lot of what they say to be wrong (none more so than Levin and Hannity), but what I really take issue with are people who call them "conservative." They're not conservative; they're right-wing nationalists.

You're talking to a parrot, y'know? Youi make an argument, it squawks whatever it's just heard. He'll soon be cawing that even you are a leftist.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 03:49 PM
You're talking to a parrot, y'know? Youi make an argument, it squawks whatever it's just heard. He'll soon be cawing that even you are a leftist.Am I a parrot, or a crow? Make up your mind, and which is worse? What does your line of "reasoning" make you?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 03:51 PM
TAKE THIS! EF-OFF CO*KBITE!

Now, go back there and read that transcript. It will do your mind some good, esquire.

TUSooner
10/7/2011, 03:58 PM
This message is hidden because RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! is on your ignore list.

I suppose I could click on the "view post" thingy, but it would be a waste of my time.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/7/2011, 04:17 PM
"Ignorance is bliss" as they say. Think how much happier you would be if you just ignored the MSM, and Huffington and their ilk.

diverdog
10/7/2011, 06:12 PM
haha,VERY persuasive...wait, what? you think the conservative talk shows are wrong, or what?

Not all the time. But I like Liddy because he would actually debate someone. Plus Liddy is a man's man. Rush is a pretender.

diverdog
10/7/2011, 06:19 PM
"Ignorance is bliss" as they say. Think how much hapopier you would be if you just ignored the MSM, and Huffington and their ilk.

If you don't think Rush is part of the elite mainstream media then you are sadly mistaken.

SicEmBaylor
10/7/2011, 06:36 PM
If you don't think Rush is part of the elite mainstream media then you are sadly mistaken.

RLIMC doesn't even acknowledge that Fox News is part of the MSM. Yes, the Fox News that's owned by Murdoch and News Corp...the largest media conglomerate on the planet.

diverdog
10/7/2011, 07:35 PM
RLIMC doesn't even acknowledge that Fox News is part of the MSM. Yes, the Fox News that's owned by Murdoch and News Corp...the largest media conglomerate on the planet.

Isn't Limbaugh part of Clear Channel media?

pphilfran
10/7/2011, 07:41 PM
Isn't Limbaugh part of Clear Channel media?

Premiere Networks (Rush and others) is owned by CC...

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/8/2011, 12:20 AM
RLIMC doesn't even acknowledge that Fox News is part of the MSM. Yes, the Fox News that's owned by Murdoch and News Corp...the largest media conglomerate on the planet.Why do you think it important that RLIMC discuss Fox News?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/8/2011, 12:21 AM
If you don't think Rush is part of the elite mainstream media then you are sadly mistaken.What a silly thing to say! what are you trying to accomplish by saying that?

SicEmBaylor
10/8/2011, 12:46 AM
Why do you think it important that RLIMC discuss Fox News?
I don't.
Are we referring to ourselves in the 3rd person now?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/8/2011, 01:16 AM
I don't.
Are we referring to ourselves in the 3rd person now?Are we? wanna vote?

diverdog
10/9/2011, 02:44 PM
What a silly thing to say! what are you trying to accomplish by saying that?

He works for Clear Channel, has 20 million listeners and holds political sway over the GOP. If you cannot figure out he is part of the MSM then you are lost my friend. He is as big as a corporate shill as you will find anywhere.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/9/2011, 04:11 PM
He works for Clear Channel, has 20 million listeners and holds political sway over the GOP. If you cannot figure out he is part of the MSM then you are lost my friend. He is as big as a corporate shill as you will find anywhere.MSM is the leftist persuasion media, also called the Drive-bys, and includes almost all but talk radio, and about half of Foxnews Channel.

SicEmBaylor
10/9/2011, 04:18 PM
MSM is the leftist persuasion media, also called the Drive-bys, and includes almost all but talk radio, and about half of Foxnews Channel.
http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/images/astounding_10-38.jpg

JohnnyMack
10/9/2011, 05:07 PM
MSM is the leftist persuasion media, also called the Drive-bys, and includes almost all but talk radio, and about half of Foxnews Channel.

You. Are. A. Moron.

Or the best troll ever.

AlboSooner
10/9/2011, 06:50 PM
is he still doing drugs?

MR2-Sooner86
10/9/2011, 07:39 PM
The only radio talk show host I enjoy listening to, and I disagree with him on a number of issues, is Michael Savage. The day he said Ann Coulter had a bigger dick than Glenn Beck I almost had to pull the car over from laughing so hard. He is defiantly not a partisan hack.

Rush is funny sometimes but most of the time it's three hours of him stroking his ego and telling you how awesome he is and why you should think he's awesome too.

Hannity is just a goddamn idiot.

Boortz I somewhat enjoy but lately he has been nothing more than a Herman Cain mouthpiece.

Levin is Hannity Lite at times.

SCOUT
10/9/2011, 10:13 PM
I have been a fan of Dennis Prager for quite a while. He isn't political all of the time but does delve into it quite a bit. He also does a nice job of explaining his logic and reasoning on how he comes to his conclusions. It doesn't mean you have to agree with him, but you should be able to understand why he came to the conclusions he did.

SicEmBaylor
10/9/2011, 10:20 PM
is he still doing drugs?
Someone in this thread is doing drugs.

SanJoaquinSooner
10/9/2011, 10:32 PM
Rush is similar to Jim Rome for me. I can take about 5 or 10 minutes, but I can't imagine having to listen for a full show.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 01:42 AM
Rush is similar to Jim Rome for me. I can take about 5 or 10 minutes, but I can't imagine having to listen for a full show.The fact that you seldom like hearing what he says might have something to do with that. hahah

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 01:49 AM
MSM is the leftist persuasion media, also called the Drive-bys, and includes almost all but talk radio, and about half of Foxnews Channel.I see Lefties and Sicems doing the name-calling and character assassination stuff after I posted the above, but I didn't see anyone say why they thought my definition of MSM was wrong, or an explanation of why it would be important to include conservative radio or tv(what little tv that actually is conservative)into the definition of "MSM"

SicEmBaylor
10/10/2011, 02:49 AM
I see Lefties and Sicems doing the name-calling and character assassination stuff after I posted the above, but I didn't see anyone say why they thought my definition of MSM was wrong, or an explanation of why it would be important to include conservative radio or tv(what little tv that actually is conservative)into the definition of "MSM"

Would it make any difference to you if we had?

I'm fairly certain that being a part of or employed by two of the largest media empires in the nation is pretty much an automatic disqualifier for being "outside" the "msm."

Being in or out of the MSM has nothing to do with political ideology. The marxist newsletter editor churning out pages from an east village studio is "outside the msm." The right-wing militia ham radio operator who has his own midnight radio show with a loyal following of 75 listeners is "outside the msm." The most popular 24/hour news channel belonging to the largest media conglomerate on the planet is the absolute definition of "msm." The most popular radio host in the entire nation owned by one of the largest networks in the country is the very definition of "msm."

Are you starting to get it yet?

SicEmBaylor
10/10/2011, 02:51 AM
And for the record, I am not assassinating your character. I'm sure you're a perfectly decent human being. I would be trying to assassinate your credibility if I thought you had any.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 02:59 AM
And for the record, I am not assassinating your character. I'm sure you're a perfectly decent human being. I would be trying to assassinate your credibility if I thought you had any.How decent of you. Your name-calling is the MO of the Left, which I guess you are okay with, since you admit to agreeing with them on some issues.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 03:02 AM
Would it make any difference to you if we had?

I'm fairly certain that being a part of or employed by two of the largest media empires in the nation is pretty much an automatic disqualifier for being "outside" the "msm."

Being in or out of the MSM has nothing to do with political ideology. The marxist newsletter editor churning out pages from an east village studio is "outside the msm." The right-wing militia ham radio operator who has his own midnight radio show with a loyal following of 75 listeners is "outside the msm." The most popular 24/hour news channel belonging to the largest media conglomerate on the planet is the absolute definition of "msm." The most popular radio host in the entire nation owned by one of the largest networks in the country is the very definition of "msm."

Are you starting to get it yet?whatever you say I'm sure is correct, tiger. Go with it

SicEmBaylor
10/10/2011, 03:12 AM
whatever you say I'm sure is correct, bear. Go with it

And ^ response is different how exactly from this response:

I didn't see anyone say why they thought my definition of MSM was wrong, or an explanation of why it would be important to include conservative radio or tv(what little tv that actually is conservative)into the definition of "MSM"

Are we to simply take your platitudes as meaningful or relevant in some way because they were delivered us to us peons from high atop Mt. EIB?


How decent of you. Your name-calling is the MO of the Left, which I guess you are okay with, since you admit to agreeing with them on some issues.
Who doesn't agree with the other side on some issues? What individual in possession of even the most rudimentary critical-thinking skills wouldn't recognize the existence of some mutually agreeable points? Are you seriously telling me that you neither have nor can even conceive of having any agreement with "the left" whatsoever?

Midtowner
10/10/2011, 08:30 AM
4 pages on a radio personality? I listen to him when I'm in the car going somewhere while he's on. His rhetoric is like that of every extremist I've heard on either side--oversimple and in many cases, ignorant of the supporting facts. He's not unique in that. I'm sure that Gerafalo or whoever on the left does the same thing.

I'm just not sold on the idea of letting some radio personality sell me prepackaged thinking. I'm perfectly capable of digesting facts and arriving at my own conclusions.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 12:48 PM
4 pages on a radio personality? I listen to him when I'm in the car going somewhere while he's on. His rhetoric is like that of every extremist I've heard on either side--oversimple and in many cases, ignorant of the supporting facts. He's not unique in that. I'm sure that Gerafalo or whoever on the left does the same thing.

I'm just not sold on the idea of letting some radio personality sell me prepackaged thinking. I'm perfectly capable of digesting facts and arriving at my own conclusions.You disagree with him for the most part don't you? It shouldn't surprise anyone you play the stupid card so readily.

pphilfran
10/10/2011, 01:00 PM
You disagree with him for the most part don't you? It shouldn't surprise anyone you play the stupid card so readily.

If Midtowner ever does play the stupid card your picture would be on it...

Midtowner
10/10/2011, 01:25 PM
You disagree with him for the most part don't you? It shouldn't surprise anyone you play the stupid card so readily.

For the most part? I haven't really sat down to figure out where my ideas line up with Limbaugh's. He's not that big a blip on my radar screen.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/10/2011, 01:38 PM
If Midtowner ever does play the stupid card your picture would be on it...Nice hand! haha