Hank "Are You Ready For Some Football" Williams Jr. Fired For Comments

[SoonerofAlabama]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/hank-williams-jr-pulled-from-monday-night-football-after-comments-made-on-fox-news_b90500

[cccasooner2]

I guess football was mentioned in the article. :)

[OUHOMER]

well, he speaks his mind.

[BoulderSooner79]

If I wanted a deep understanding of today's political infrastructure - yeah, I 'd first consult the guy that sings the MNF intro.

[SoonerPride]

I am ready for some football, but the next time I take political insight from a drunk, drug addled country musician please just pass me the embalming fluid.

[OrlandoSooner]

LOL
He started the interview with a Joe Naimath moment. "I'd rather be there looking at Gretchen!"

The guy on the right is petrified. He wanted to get out of the camera angle...

[cleller]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

[oumartin]

I am now a huge Hank Jr. fan

[SoonerPride]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

He's free to say what he wants.

His employer is free to fire him for being an idiot.

That's not censorship

That's capitalism.

[limey_sooner]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

No this is the free market the righties worship at.

[nighttrain12]

I'm suprised they have kept this redneck around for so long and not used some rap artist for the intro.

[Jacie]

He just tossed a 23-years long gig into the waste can. Comparing Obama and Biden to Hitler on a nationally broadcast news show was kind of a dumb thing to do no matter what your political lean.

[OUVarsityXV]

On a side note has anyone listened to the "Are You Ready for Some Football" Monday night intro? It is the regular theme music but with glee-esque acapella singers. It is the lamest thing I have ever seen. Just awful. I feel like I don't even want to watch football after I see it.

[picasso]

I am ready for some football, but the next time I take political insight from a drunk, drug addled country musician please just pass me the embalming fluid.
No different from an uneducated actor who thinks they know more than folks in fly over country.
You can speak your mind but there's consequences.

[Soonerfan88]

I think it was an big over-reaction and everyone I know just rolled their eyes about it. The intro was only pulled for tonight and then they will talk it over. To me, this means "We at ESPN don't have a clue what we are doing so we are going to wait and see if viewers/advertisers/media think it's an issue before we actually make a decision."

[MsProudSooner]

If it's OK for people who supported Bush to boycott The Dixie Chicks, it's OK for ESPN to suspend his intro to MNF.

[En_Fuego]

I'm suprised they have kept this redneck around for so long and not used some rap artist for the intro.

I agree

[ictsooner7]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

The lefties huh? The teabaggers totally flip out when you call them teabaggers, but only after someone had to tell the morons what it meant. This, of course, AFTER they called themselves teabaggers to begin with. Lets not bring up the crying like little girls until Janet Napolitano apologized for stating facts about right wing terrorists in America, like the ones throwing bricks through congressmens offices and shooting a congresswoman. Talk about limiting freedom of speech.

[Jacie]

If it's OK for people who supported Bush to boycott The Dixie Chicks, it's OK for ESPN to suspend his intro to MNF.

I didn't have a problem with the DC's not being fans of Dubya or against the U.S. going to war with Iraq, only that they made their statement about ". . . we're ashamed that the President of the United States (George W. Bush) is from Texas" (which, somewhat off topic, they were wrong, he was born in Connecticut) at a concert in London, U.K. They made it sound like they were ashamed to be Americans and that is why people were so upset over it.

[ruf/nekdad]

Uhh, my bad, I'm in the wrong place; I thought this was a football forum.

[Prodigal]

If it's OK for people who supported Bush to boycott The Dixie Chicks, it's OK for ESPN to suspend his intro to MNF.


Hank was not in a foreign country ridiculing our president to non-Americans.

Carry on...

[ictsooner7]

I didn't have a problem with the DC's not being fans of Dubya or against the U.S. going to war with Iraq, only that they made their statement about ". . . we're ashamed that the President of the United States (George W. Bush) is from Texas" (which, somewhat off topic, they were wrong, he was born in Connecticut) at a concert in London, U.K. They made it sound like they were ashamed to be Americans and that is why people were so upset over it.

NO, they were very clear. They said we are ashamed that he is from Texas. They never ever said anything that would make anyone every think they were ashamed of being from the USA. I seem to remember a certain quitter governor from a socialist state going overseas and criticizing the President of the United States! Where were the protests and outrage from the right?

[Prodigal]

The lefties huh? The teabaggers totally flip out when you call them teabaggers, but only after someone had to tell the morons what it meant. This, of course, AFTER they called themselves teabaggers to begin with. Lets not bring up the crying like little girls until Janet Napolitano apologized for stating facts about right wing terrorists in America, like the ones throwing bricks through congressmens offices and shooting a congresswoman. Talk about limiting freedom of speech.

I just want to call you an idiot before this gets closed.

Idiot.

[NorthernIowaSooner]

Most of his comments don't make sense, if you read it or watch the video they don't make sense. Comparing people to Hitler is always an unpopular move.

Funny that they talked about how long he has been doing the theme song for MNF and hours later he is doing it no longer.

[ictsooner7]

I just want to call you an idiot before this gets closed.

Idiot.

What part of what I put is not the truth? You dumbass, in-bred, redneck hillbilly.

[Prodigal]

What part of what I put is not the truth? You dumbass,in-bred, redneck hillbilly.

Your posts scream terrorist.

I missed where a conservative killed a congresswoman, for starters.

[Ground_Attack]

sigh. politics suck.

[NorthernIowaSooner]

Isn't there a sticky specifically saying no politics or you'll be taking some time off?

[Seamus]

No this is the free market the righties worship at.

PWND.

[ictsooner7]

Your posts scream terrorist.

I missed where a conservative killed a congresswoman, for starters.

I said shot not killed, but a rightwingnut skinhead in Arizona, don't act like you don't know.

[Prodigal]

You know, idiot is a pretty appropriate word for someone who would compare Obama to Hitler, even if he didn't mean it the way it is being portrayed. Idiot is also a pretty appropriate word for someone who states what ictsooner posted. Both indicate a person that has lost their grounding in truth and objectivity.

[ictsooner7]

Isn't there a sticky specifically saying no politics or you'll be taking some time off?

I didn't start it, but I will finish it, every time.

Tell the rightwingnuts to lay off everyone who doesn't agree with them.

[ictsooner7]

You know, idiot is a pretty appropriate word for someone who would compare Obama to Hitler, even if he didn't mean it the way it is being portrayed. Idiot is also a pretty appropriate word for someone who states what ictsooner posted. Both indicate a person that has lost their grounding in truth and objectivity.

Tell me exactly what I said was not the truth!

[Prodigal]

I said shot not killed, but a rightwingnut skinhead in Arizona, don't act like you don't know.

That is amazingly idiotic, or probably you just have so much hatred for people who are not like you that you have no objectivity and just want to hurt them.

Terrorist.

[NorthernIowaSooner]

Don't drag me into this. Hank Williams is an idiot for what he said because it made no sense, I will make no sweeping generalizations about either political party.

[Seamus]

Hank was not in a foreign country ridiculing our president to non-Americans.

Carry on...

Yes, everyone knows that anything said on Fox stops at the U.S. border.

[yermom]

i kept thinking it was olevet talking :O

[Prodigal]

Yes, everyone knows that anything said on Fox stops at the U.S. border.

I have no problem with someone from the Sports Animal saying Boren looks foolish right now. I have a big problem with someone from the Sports Animal going on a national broadcast like ESPN and making generalizations about Boren being an embarrassment or a fool. Anyone who did that would likely loose their position locally.

[CrimsonJim]

Isn't there a sticky specifically saying no politics or you'll be taking some time off?

This! ^^^

[ictsooner7]

That is amazingly idiotic, or probably you just have so much hatred for people who are not like you that you have no objectivity and just want to hurt them.

Terrorist.

You just don't have a clue as to the truth, he listed "Mein Kampf" among his favorite books. Jared Loughner was a Registered REPUBLICAN voter!

http://www.solidprinciples.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jllvi.jpg

Political affiliation: REPUBLICAN
Voter Precinct: MTN VISTA UU
Senate District: 27
Congressional District: 08

[Sooner_Tuf]

I saw Hank Jr on TV live this morning. The hosts were in shock, they just wanted out of there. In fact one of them even said they didn't agree with the statements that had been made.

Hank seemed a little out of it and obviously wanted to take some shots at Obama. Which describes at least half of America.

His words taken literally are pretty ridiculous but sum up a lot of frustration that large numbers of people have with where America is headed and how it doesn't really seem to have anyone on the Bridge. I wouldn't fire him but would probably tell him to chose better words in the future.

[sheepdogs]

I said shot not killed, but a rightwingnut skinhead in Arizona, don't act like you don't know.

Are you suggesting the shooter was a sane person acting upon his political beliefs or more like the act of an insane person?

[Prodigal]

[QUOTE=ictsooner7;3360960]You just don't have a clue as to the truth, he listed "Mein Kampf" among his favorite books. Jared Loughner was a Registered REPUBLICAN voter!

http://www.solidprinciples.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jllvi.jpg

Political affiliation: REPUBLICAN


Seriously!!?

Some drug user, messed up kid in his 20s who can't/won't work or keep a job and lives at home then goes off the deep end is now a conservative.

You make Hank Jr look objective.

[ictsooner7]

Are you suggesting the shooter was a sane person acting upon his political beliefs or more like the act of an insane person?

Well...he sure didn't shoot a fellow republican!

[sheepdogs]

Well...he sure did shot a fellow republican!

That doesn't answer the question posed.

[The Ghost of Mex]

Dear Mod,

Please move this thread. It sucks and does not belong.

Yours truly,

This guy

[AlboSooner]

He sounded like a gentlemen and a scholar. ok maybe not

[ictsooner7]

[QUOTE=ictsooner7;3360960]You just don't have a clue as to the truth, he listed "Mein Kampf" among his favorite books. Jared Loughner was a Registered REPUBLICAN voter!

http://www.solidprinciples.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jllvi.jpg

Political affiliation: REPUBLICAN


Seriously!!?

Some drug user, messed up kid in his 20s who can't/won't work or keep a job and lives at home then goes off the deep end is now a conservative.

You make Hank Jr look objective.

YES...ALL REPUBLICANS ARE CONSERVATIVES. It's funny when Republicans do something wrong suddenly they are not conservatives and when conservatives do something wrong suddenly they are not Republicans.

[Prodigal]

I'm going to ban myself for a few days just for being stupid enough to argue with this clown.

Beat texas!

[cleller]

I didn't start it, but I will finish it, every time.

Tell the rightwingnuts to lay off everyone who doesn't agree with them.


OK, you go first.

[ictsooner7]

Are you suggesting the shooter was a sane person acting upon his political beliefs or more like the act of an insane person?

ok to be very clear....YES TO BOTH he is a crazy CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN!

[ictsooner7]

I'm going to ban myself for a few days just for being stupid enough to argue with this clown.

Beat texas!

Finally we agree, BEAT TEXAS!

[WisconsinSooner]

I'm not drunk enough to post a response that would get me a ban so I'm withholding comment.

[sheepdogs]

ok to be very clear....YES TO BOTH he is a crazy CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN!

If a person is indeed crazy and acts upon their craziness then you cannot rationalize why that individual decided to act out for you cannot dictate to an unstable person what they are allowed to be off their rocker about and what they aren't. In other words, his actions were based on his lack of mental stability rather than politics. And if he chose to shoot someone in a rag top would you say he has a vendetta against those who prefer to not drive a hard top?

[8timechamps]

End of thread. If you wanna talk politics (who would have thought Hank Jr would have promted a politics discussion?)....TAKE IT TO THE POLITICAL FORUM.


Thanks.

[AlboSooner]

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[47straight]

If it's OK for people who supported Bush to boycott The Dixie Chicks, it's OK for ESPN to suspend his intro to MNF.

The Dixie Chicks said they didn't want to be in a CD player or on the same airwaves as Reba. So they pretty much boycotted themselves.



PS this is strictly a comment on music.

[MR2-Sooner86]

First comment from that story.


That ol' boy needs a white hood to go along with his disgusting comment.

It's like clockwork.

[OhU1]

Bad taste? The word "Hitler" is used everyday by some idiot to make a fallacious and juvenile point. In the past this was used by the left but now the "argumentum ad Hitlerum" (or Reductio ad Hitlerum) seems to be a favorite of the wingnut branch on the right (kind of ironic). Beck, O'Rilley, and Creationists find appeals to Hitler to lend some kind of emotional weight to their rhetoric. Why come down on a drunk red neck from Bama for doing the same -isn't he just repeating what he heard on the radio like some cut-and-paste posters around here do?

But if Hank must go, may I suggest David Allen Coe as his replacement?

[Turd_Ferguson]

rap artistOxymoron.

[cleller]

Oxymoron.

Just WHO are you callin' a MOron?

[TUSooner]

well, he speaks his mind.
What precious little he has left.

His math skills suck, too. Who is the third Stooge?

cleller's censorship comment is just as stupid.

[TUSooner]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

It's a sound conservative principle that you stand accountable and accept the consequences for your own actions, including saying stupid *** on national TV when you want to work on national TV.

[TUSooner]

On a side note has anyone listened to the "Are You Ready for Some Football" Monday night intro? It is the regular theme music but with glee-esque acapella singers. It is the lamest thing I have ever seen. Just awful. I feel like I don't even want to watch football after I see it.

This is the real problem - too much "show" to begin with. I want to watch a dang football game, not song and dance. I carefully avoid watching or listening to all that crap, and I tune in just a few seconds before kickoff.

[Lott's Bandana]

I think it was an big over-reaction and everyone I know just rolled their eyes about it. The intro was only pulled for tonight and then they will talk it over. To me, this means "We at ESPN don't have a clue what we are doing so we are going to wait and see if viewers/advertisers/media think it's an issue before we actually make a decision."


As I've stated elsewhere, after reading the latest ESPN book, I know what you wrote there is EXACTLY what they did.

[OU Sooners]

Not surprised that this was on Fox News. Just a hateful right wing propaganda tool anyway. Doesn't Rush Limbaugh use this kind of rhetoric routinely?

[stoopified]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?Yep.I'm thinking if someone had said the same thing about Bush,nobody would bat an eyelash.

[CrimsonCream]

Yep.I'm thinking if someone had said the same thing about Bush,nobody would bat an eyelash.

Yes.

But, see, that's different. It's okay to superimposed Bush as Hitler but when an Obama comparison is made than the corrupt media goes ape****.

As far as ESPN goes, isn't this pious network responsible for the Longhorn Network and the Big XII disarray?

[badger]

I remember being upset back in elementary school because the generic version of the song always mentioned the cowboys, then when he did one for the Packers vs. Cowboys game, it kind was praised the Cowboys while just doing a brief mention of the Packers. No I don't remember the words, but I remember being miffed and thinking it was the stupidest thing ever. I was in fifth grade I think. :mad:

As such, I've never liked the song and if this is the excuse they needed to replace it with something else, hooray.

[OULenexaman]

It's a far better song than the one on NBC....

[GrapevineSooner]

Gordon Keith of the Ticket said it best this morning here in Dallas.

Hank Williams Jr. has officially become everybody's drunk uncle.

[diverdog]

I supported Obama and by all accounts I am center left in politics. I want to say right now that Hanks comments do not nearly offend me as much as the nightly commercials played during family time prescribing every thing from vaginal itch to 4 hour erection. I can easily explain to my kids that Hank Williams Jr is a dumb f***ing redneck. But how do I explain to them the need for some powder to stop ball sweat or why mommy needs tampons. I find most general programing far more offensive than calling Obama Hitler.

[lexsooner]

This is the real problem - too much "show" to begin with. I want to watch a dang football game, not song and dance. I carefully avoid watching or listening to all that crap, and I tune in just a few seconds before kickoff.

TU, you must try and avoid live sporting events too, because each and everyone one, regardless of the sport or the level, has frequent blaring music, announcements, lame side events on the field, t-shirt guns, prize give-aways, and then even more blaring announcements. Every live event works off the presumption that the audience has the attention span of a fly and must be entertained by these low brow side bars, else they lose interest and leave and no longer spend their precious money on concessions. Honestly, I attend live sports infrequently, and flip around sports games on tv - still too many commercials and interruptions and talking.

[CrimsonCream]

Not a bad analysis, Diver.

[OhU1]

TU, you must try and avoid live sporting events too, because each and everyone one, regardless of the sport or the level, has frequent blaring music, announcements, lame side events on the field, t-shirt guns, prize give-aways, and then even more blaring announcements. Every live event works off the presumption that the audience has the attention span of a fly and must be entertained by these low brow side bars, else they lose interest and leave and no longer spend their precious money on concessions. Honestly, I attend live sports infrequently, and flip around sports games on tv - still too many commercials and interruptions and talking.

Sounds like my experience at my last Thunder game. I enjoyed the game; I just got sick as hell of the constant wall of noise, especially during time outs and any other down time moment. Who decided that sound bite segments of rock and roll songs needs to be blared during a basketball game anyway?

[47straight]

I supported Obama and by all accounts I am center left in politics. I want to say right now that Hanks comments do not nearly offend me as much as the nightly commercials played during family time prescribing every thing from vaginal itch to 4 hour erection. I can easily explain to my kids that Hank Williams Jr is a dumb f***ing redneck. But how do I explain to them the need for some powder to stop ball sweat or why mommy needs tampons. I find most general programing far more offensive than calling Obama Hitler.

Yup.

[TUSooner]

TU, you must try and avoid live sporting events too, because each and everyone one, regardless of the sport or the level, has frequent blaring music, announcements, lame side events on the field, t-shirt guns, prize give-aways, and then even more blaring announcements. Every live event works off the presumption that the audience has the attention span of a fly and must be entertained by these low brow side bars, else they lose interest and leave and no longer spend their precious money on concessions. Honestly, I attend live sports infrequently, and flip around sports games on tv - still too many commercials and interruptions and talking.
You are dead-on right. And you can bet every penny you own that I will never go to another arena football game, for sure. I went to one a few years ago. The game itself was "ok" but otherwise it was nothing but noise and flashing lights. Any sport above the HS level is risky. It was bad enough when baseball games had the infernal organ, now it's the cacophony of all-out pandemonium between innings or even pitches. Gimme some sounds of silence, or nature, or conversation, or just the gentle rumble of a crowd waiting for something to cheer or groan about. I really want to rant on; but no.

And +1 for diverdog's comment.

[lexsooner]

Sounds like my experience at my last Thunder game. I enjoyed the game; I just got sick as hell of the constant wall of noise, especially during time outs and any other down time moment. Who decided that sound bite segments of rock and roll songs needs to be blared during a basketball game anyway?

This sounds terrible, but I think it's a fact that amusements aimed at low brow people just don't appeal to high brow people. You may like the sports, but the other stuff is aimed at common folk. I went to a Class A Lexington minor league baseball game this summer and on top of all of the stuff I described above, they had to have a Lexington Legends Fans Have Talent contest, so between each inning someone blared out their version of Taylor Swift or some other country song. Irritating is probably an understatement for that event.

[badger]

The "Hitler" and/or "Nazi" comparison has been used too much by too many people for far too long. When some are using the terms to describe a dictatorship, or a socialist society, or just being hated, they take away from, or just ignoring the fact that there are a lot of people that still view the Nazis and Hitler as the leaders of a terrible and recent case of genocide.

When people loosely toss those terms around, I like to think of that King of the Hill episode where these dumb teens spent the entire episode calling someone a Nazi because of strict house rules, then one makes the mistake of calling Cotton Hill, a WW2 veteran, a Nazi. "Who you callin' a Nazi?!" he exclaims, preparing to kick the kid's arse :D

[badger]

Hank apologized. (http://newsok.com/williams-apologizes-for-hitler-obama-analogy/article/feed/303700?custom_click=headlines_widget) Good for him. I still don't like that song though :)

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

He needs to stick to songs about whiskey on ice and women on fire.

[Veritas]

The non-Fox media is presenting the case as though he compared Obama to Hitler.

That's not what happened: he used a simile trying to illustrate his perspective on the absurdity of Obama playing golf with...Boehner, was it?

But hey, somebody said "Hitler" so **** it, let's just blow it out of proportion and recreate the context to make some irrelevant singer look like an *******.

[C&CDean]

Man, nothing like a little Hank to get all the liberal's G-strings all up in they crack. Heh.

This world is pretty much ****ed. PC run amok. To the nth degree. Ad nauseum. Where do I check out?

[AlboSooner]

Hank apologized. (http://newsok.com/williams-apologizes-for-hitler-obama-analogy/article/feed/303700?custom_click=headlines_widget) Good for him. I still don't like that song though :)

He truly is dumb. You don't apologize. you milk the situation for album sales. /america

[TUSooner]

Hollywood, Nashville, Motown, meh, whatever. I dont give a flying **** about the opinions of entertainers. I only care about the opinions of SF.com posters because I can get online and tell you all what a bunch of stupid, ignorant, losers you are! YAH!!!! :biggrin:

[TheHumanAlphabet]

I thought this was supposed to be a country that prides itself on letting people speak their minds, without fear.

Is this the censorship the lefties are always worried about?

^^^ This..

The liberals and the anarchists have said worst and put out posters and there is no backlash. I wish he hadn't apologized.

[TUSooner]

*****

The liberals and the anarchists have said worst and put out posters and there is no backlash. I wish he hadn't apologized.

You are dreaming. How about the NPR dude who got stung by a RW stealth commando and then got fired? I'm sure others who pay more attention than I do could give you more examples. If some outrageous statements are unpunished, it's generally because the people making them are not "famous" enough to punish in apublic way. You show the classic signs of having been brainwashed in the RW echo chamber into beliveing that "us pore ol' conservatives" are victims. HO. LEE. ****.

But I too wish he hadn't apologized, because I know it was insincere. I am pretty sure he really does hate Obama and Biden.

[47straight]

You are dreaming. How about the NPR dude who got stung by a RW stealth commando and then got fired? I'm sure others who pay more attention than I do could give you more examples. If some outrageous statements are unpunished, it's generally because the people making them are not "famous" enough to punish in apublic way. You show the classic signs of having been brainwashed in the RW echo chamber into beliveing that "us pore ol' conservatives" are victims. HO. LEE. ****.

But I too wish he hadn't apologized, because I know it was insincere. I am pretty sure he really does hate Obama and Biden.

Who did NPR fire besides Juan Williams?

[badger]

I can get online and tell you all what a bunch of stupid, ignorant, losers you are! YAH!!!! :biggrin:

Back before our Cotton Bowl against Arky in 2001/2002, a bunch of spirit squadders and even the football teams went to that Medieval Times thing for a good ol' fashioned shouting match. It was clear that the MC had never dealt with a crowd as crazy as us before and was trying various methods of keeping our shouting in check... it was not working.

So anyway, by the end of the night, Arkansas is yelling O-S-U! O-S-U! and we are yelling back SEVEN-AND-FOUR! SEVEN-AND-FOUR! at them... and the exasperated MC was like "You all know what they say, you are what you chant!"

So anyway... you are what you post :P

[SoonerLaw09]

Good grief. Can we not just have civil discourse in this country?? These days every time some dip**** celebrity, congressman, or what have you, has a forum, be he or she liberal (usually) or conservative (occasionally), the talk seems to devolve into "bigot, racist, nazi, hitler". I even got called a bigot by a very good friend of mine for having a certain opinion on a couple of issues. Words mean things, and you de-value the term by just throwing it around willy-nilly. Not to mention when you do this, you're not arguing a position, you're acting out of emotion, and trying to get an emotional reaction.

That being said, I'm pretty sure HWJr was trying to be funny. Yeah, his comment was dumb. Not because of its content, but because he should have realized he was gonna get fried for it. OTOH, Maxine Waters recently called Herman Cain an "oreo". Where's the outrage and the condemnation from Congress and the media? The double standard is staggering. And speaking of Hermain Cain, in a recent debate he said "America just needs to learn how to take a joke." I could not agree more, and HWJr is the latest person to figure out that the victim mentality in this country has gone off the deep end.

[TUSooner]

Who did NPR fire besides Juan Williams? I was referring to Ron Schiller, the fundaraiser guy who got tricked into saying stupid **** by that scummy RW scammer O'Keefe. NPR Prez Vivian Schiller (not realted to Ron) also got fired over that issue. By the way, the person who fired Juan Williams also got the axe. Lots of people get slapped for speaking their unfiltered minds, fair or not. My point: ****-can the whiny "conservative martyr" shtick; it's as bogus & stale as the "ESPN hates OU" crapola.

[TUSooner]

Good grief. Can we not just have civil discourse in this country?? These days every time some dip**** celebrity, congressman, or what have you, has a forum, be he or she liberal (usually) or conservative (occasionally), the talk seems to devolve into "bigot, racist, nazi, hitler". I even got called a bigot by a very good friend of mine for having a certain opinion on a couple of issues. Words mean things, and you de-value the term by just throwing it around willy-nilly. Not to mention when you do this, you're not arguing a position, you're acting out of emotion, and trying to get an emotional reaction.

That being said, I'm pretty sure HWJr was trying to be funny. Yeah, his comment was dumb. Not because of its content, but because he should have realized he was gonna get fried for it. OTOH, Maxine Waters recently called Herman Cain an "oreo". Where's the outrage and the condemnation from Congress and the media? The double standard is staggering. And speaking of Hermain Cain, in a recent debate he said "America just needs to learn how to take a joke." I could not agree more, and HWJr is the latest person to figure out that the victim mentality in this country has gone off the deep end.

This is a good post. And in deference to 47 and THA I will say that liberals do seem to get away with a little more **** than some others. That said, I think the RW and especially the Becks and Rushes, need to take an extra piece of the blame pie. It wasn't until I started listening to Rush back in the day that I learned that liberals were not only wrong, but that they were DANGEROUS and EVIL. It seems now everbody R & L has to vilify their opponents as demons rather than just disagree (and much less find any common ground).

I think dueling should be allowed for pundits and politicians. It would tone down a lot of flaimng rhetoric if a person like Beck or Rush or even Maxine Waters ran the risk of being called out to the dueling oaks for mouthing off about someone. Just a thought!

[badger]

I like the story that's hitting the intraweb today, where ESPN is saying they decided to discontinue Hank, while Hank is saying he decided to discontinue MNF. :D

[TUSooner]

I like the story that's hitting the intraweb today, where ESPN is saying they decided to discontinue Hank, while Hank is saying he decided to discontinue MNF. :D

Maybe Hank can hang out wth Terry Francona.

[cleller]

What precious little he has left.

His math skills suck, too. Who is the third Stooge?

cleller's censorship comment is just as stupid.

I think its funny how some people were upset at what I posted regarding Williams' right to freedom of expression. For starters, if was kinda tongue in cheek. More to the point it is lampooning of the politically correct drones, and their knee-jerk flinch at the mention of Hitler.
Williams used that as an oil and water comparison, not to equate Obama with Hitler. (watch the interview) Does anyone feel he equated Boehner with Netanyahu? Sure, he says he feels Obama is "the enemy", so what? Nobody thinks he is the standard-bearer of any political movement. Sheesh, have a sense of humor.

[cleller]

Have a little update: During the Cal-Oregon game, the ESPN announcer referred to the Cal special teams covering a punt as "the Stormtroopers in white". (about 13:05 in 2nd quarter)
Should he pay for this gaffe with his job?