View Full Version : Official OU vs Ball State Game Thread.
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:16 PM
Jefferson and Stills are kinda good. Lol
King Barry's Back
10/1/2011, 07:16 PM
For those of you watching the game...why isn't Broyles getting any catches?
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:17 PM
Roy's future is not in TV reporting.
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:17 PM
Clay doubtful for the rest of the game. All of his gear is off on the sideline. Trainers looking at him
Widescreen
10/1/2011, 07:17 PM
Did TRRW just admit to a compliance violation? Please get him off the air. I love the guy but this isn't good.
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:17 PM
I'm no D-Coord, but this quick cross game can be counteracted by zone blitzes and just getting you hands up.
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
Not throwing to broyles
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
O'hara's kicks look weak today. Barely got it to the 10
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
Come on D.... stop 'em.
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
Clay doubtful for the rest of the game. All of his gear is off on the sideline. Trainers looking at him
Stinger?
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
TRRW needs to hush
Jason White's Third Knee
10/1/2011, 07:18 PM
I'm no D-Coord, but this quick cross game can be counteracted by zone blitzes and just getting you hands up.
Put cho hands in the ayah.
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:19 PM
Why is colvin out?
cleller
10/1/2011, 07:19 PM
OK D time to shut us naysayers up.
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:19 PM
Clay doubtful for the rest of the game. All of his gear is off on the sideline. Trainers looking at him
If it is a concussion, I don't look for him to play for quite awhile after getting a pretty severe concussion last year at Cotton Bowl.
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:19 PM
Why is colvin out?
concussion symptoms
PICK # 2 for JEFFERSON!!!
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:19 PM
TJEFF!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Jefferson with another one!!!1
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Oh my god! The radio guys are going insane and I just want to see it!
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
I really wish I could've seen that.
fadada1
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
INT????
sounds like a killer interception....
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
JEFFERSON WITH AN AMAZING PICK
NUMBER 2 FOR HIM TONIGHT
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
OK D time to shut us naysayers up.
I like that! Great pick by Tony!
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
tony's the man!!!
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Back-to-back INTs by T-Jeff!!!!
SoonerofAlabama
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Did sombody just say "hell of a catch?"
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Jefferson with a great pick!
bluedogok
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
Heck of an INT...
SunnySooner
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
ARGGGHH!!! This is killing me!!!! I want to see that pick so bad!!!!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:20 PM
OH MY GOD. THAT WAS A SIIIIIIIIIICK ONE HANDED INTERCEPTION.
For those who didn't see it, see it ASAP
I was hoping for a half a hundered by halftime. I guess that isn't going to happen
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
I really wish I could've seen that.
HolaKyle will fix us up.
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
Atta boy Roy!
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
Jefferson INT!!!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
FINCH WITH A 60 YARD CATCH
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
Finchmeister....
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
I'm officially mad I can't see this.
fadada1
10/1/2011, 07:21 PM
O sounds great; D sounds like they stole their uniforms back from the cheer squad.
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:22 PM
Finch run.... damn good.
Jason White's Third Knee
10/1/2011, 07:22 PM
Did he put his hands in the ayah?
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:22 PM
did merv just yawn on the air?
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:22 PM
Our pass coverage scares the crap out of me
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:22 PM
Whaley got an easy TD taken away because of a defensive penalty. LAME
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:23 PM
Did TRRW just admit to a compliance violation? Please get him off the air. I love the guy but this isn't good.
What did he do?
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:23 PM
OMG WHALEY WITH A SIIIIIIIIIIIIICK MOVE.
For people not watching you need highlights ASAP
SoonerofAlabama
10/1/2011, 07:23 PM
did merv just yawn on the air?
Glad you heard it too. He definitely did.
Whaley Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
did merv just yawn on the air?
Yeah. He needs some coffee.
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
td whaley again....dang he's good
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
Whaley for 6
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
Whaley with an easy one
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
YESSS!!!
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
Whaley the indestructable.
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:24 PM
Whaley!
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:25 PM
They only pizzed Whaley off!!! Don't get him angry, you won't like him when he's angry!
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:25 PM
Okay, commercial....so, for those watching, how awesome was the last Jefferson pick? Sounded really good on radio.
Glad you heard it too. He definitely did.
Now he's got ME yawning!!!
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:25 PM
Now the goal is not to get anyone else hurt
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:25 PM
Why is colvin out?
Concussion
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:25 PM
Okay, commercial....so, for those watching, how awesome was the last Jefferson pick? Sounded really good on radio.
EPIC! One-handed, diving out of bounds
Is Whaley as good as Peterson was???
Per the radio, Clay may come back if needed.
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:26 PM
Whaley averaging 8 ypc!!!
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:26 PM
Who was being booed earlier?
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:27 PM
Is Whaley as good as Peterson was???
No. Probably a better runner than #7 was though
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:27 PM
They said Clay is OK.
soonerfan69
10/1/2011, 07:27 PM
Who was being booed earlier?
The Defnse i think
Who was being booed earlier?
They announced the **censored** score
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:27 PM
Millard is a machine.
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:27 PM
Is Whaley as good as Peterson was???
Whaley reminds me of AD - simply because he's strong and runs so hard.
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
Thanks. I was confused about the booing
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
OMG TONY JEFFERSON!
fadada1
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
ANOTHER ONE!!!!!!
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
Threepeat!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
JEFFERSON, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME
BetterSoonerThanLater
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
i sure hope HolaKyle ordered this on PPV......can't wait to actually see it!!!! as another int by jefferson!!!!!! wow number three on the night!!1
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
another pick TJEFF!
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:28 PM
T-Jeff with the hat trick!
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
Jefferson with another INT????
Sooners!!!!
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
I bet we know who's wearing #12 next week, if not Travis.
Jefferson with 3 Oskies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
Jefferson is trying to become an All-American tonight!!
SoonerofAlabama
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
WOW!!! No its not a record, the record is 5 right?! Cali trio haha. Alexander the Great and T Jefferson.
WA. Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
guess we know what area they wont throw at any more
BetterSoonerThanLater
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
brandon williams in the game
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
The freshman is in!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:29 PM
There goes the redshirt
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
JEFFERSON, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME
Save some of these for next week Tony!!!!
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Jefferson with another tipped ball int!
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Ryan-o!!!!!!!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
TD BROYLES
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
That easy lol BROYLES!!!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Don't take the foot off the peddle
sooner2be3
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Can't keep a good man down!
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
All the excitement on the one game thats not on tv!
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Can't keep RB Down
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
Well, folks, have no fear, there's Mr. Broyles!
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:30 PM
I HATE PPV!!!!
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:31 PM
Williams let one go thru his hands probably nerves
ouflak
10/1/2011, 07:31 PM
Doesn't look like my mojo was needed here anyway!
fadada1
10/1/2011, 07:31 PM
merv never played angry birds... who knew.
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
merv never played angry birds... who knew.
Merv probably has no idea what it even is.
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
Holy smokes, Sooners! Tease us with the slow start then... BAM!
soonerfan69
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
Bama 3 Kentucky 7
You mean Florida
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
4 tds in about 5 mins of game time. Lol
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
Bama 3 Kentucky 7
Huh?
IronHorseSooner
10/1/2011, 07:32 PM
Holy smokes, Sooners! Tease us with the slow start then... BAM!
I would say, somebody had a "foot up arse" speech!
SoonerMarkVA
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
I can't remember the last time I had to listen to the play-by-play to follow a game--and actually be able to follow it, clearly and cleanly. Thank you, Toby!
tulsaoilerfan
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
I'm out of here lol
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
I would pee my pants if Tony got another interception here.
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
Come on D!
bluedogok
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
UT-27
ISU-0
2:58
2nd
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
Nebish TD vs Wisky.
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:33 PM
Tony with a tackle, no interception lol
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:34 PM
NCAA record... three INTs in a quarter. Way to go TJeff.
merv never played angry birds... who knew.
It'd be hard to play on a bag phone...
bluedogok
10/1/2011, 07:34 PM
Almost #4
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:34 PM
TONY ALMOST HAD NUMBER 4 OHHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOD
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
Wow I wish that would've been picked again.
WA. Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
damn they better stop throwing it
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
haha - Tony is Ball State's best WR
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
Tony for a fourth... you can do it, TJeff.
SoonerMachine
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
I can't remember the last time I had to listen to the play-by-play to follow a game--and actually be able to follow it, clearly and cleanly. Thank you, Toby!
Ain't it nice!
fadada1
10/1/2011, 07:35 PM
almost another!!! radio cut out for a second from the yelling.
soonerfan69
10/1/2011, 07:36 PM
wow
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:36 PM
Go RJ Washington.... tipped passes.
NathanStinson
10/1/2011, 07:36 PM
Landry picked.
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:36 PM
UGH. INT from LJ
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:36 PM
Come on Landry. He gets too excited at times.
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 07:37 PM
Well, there's his one bonehead for the game. We should be good for the rest of this one.
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:37 PM
Go get em Tony
SoonerofAlabama
10/1/2011, 07:37 PM
Darn. It will be okay, Landry.
BSU's QB must be afraid to throw the ball now...
jcvsooner
10/1/2011, 07:38 PM
I think LJ just wanted to give TJ one more shot at that fourth interception.
3 & Out again. Great Defene
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:39 PM
Did Toby just wake Merv up?
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:39 PM
nm
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:40 PM
One more TD before halftime... one more TD, Sooners.
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:40 PM
JAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JAZZ to the BSU 13, 62 yards!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:40 PM
JAZ REYNOLDS. 70 YARD PASS
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:41 PM
62 yards for Jaz!
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:41 PM
Wow Jaz Reynolds.
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:41 PM
Man I thought "The Hawk" retired.
trwxxa
10/1/2011, 07:41 PM
Bama 3 Florida 14
Not so fast my friend
CBUS_SOONER
10/1/2011, 07:42 PM
lets get a lot of reserves a lot of reps the second half
TD taken away from Florida
4th and 10, Hunnicutt coming out.
Boomer.....
10/1/2011, 07:42 PM
Landry is sailing everything!
FG missed. 0:42 left in Q2
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
Bring back Jimmy!
AlboSooner
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
How was landrys pick?
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
Hunnicut misses an easy one
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
Missed FG? WTF?!?!?
BetterSoonerThanLater
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
just when i thought we found oursleves a kicker.....
Touchdown taken away from Florida again
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:43 PM
Couldn't punch it in from the 13... couldn't make the FG. Damn... didn't quite reach the 40's before the half.
salth2o
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
hey dip**** announcer....watch the ****ing game.
WA. Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
dangit special ed teams are back
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
Bama 3 Florida 14 again
Wrong again, 10-3 Florida
cleller
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
Talk about going out with a whimper.
Okie35
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
just when i thought we found oursleves a kicker.....
Where is Jimmy again?
soonercastor
10/1/2011, 07:44 PM
That whole drive ended in a mess. Good first half after a "shaky" start.
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 07:45 PM
Where is Jimmy again?
Heard he was getting a leg transplant.
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:46 PM
I would pee my pants if Tony got another interception here.
Toby is certainly calling a good game. First time listening to him.
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:47 PM
whoops quoted the wrong post
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:48 PM
Hokies don't look very good tonight... their defense getting toasted.
Widescreen
10/1/2011, 07:49 PM
Landry has been throwing high all night. In most cases, the receivers have been good enough to go up and get it. But he needs to calm down.
VA Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:49 PM
Need another scholly for a kicker... after we've given one to Whaley.
Boomer.....
10/1/2011, 07:49 PM
Everyone wonders why Finch doesn't play more. He showed it. After that long run, he ran out if gas and pulled up. Then he had to go out. They said he doesn't put in the same amount of time and effort. It showed.
Widescreen
10/1/2011, 07:51 PM
Everyone wonders why Finch doesn't play more. He showed it. After that long run, he ran out if gas and pulled up. Then he had to go out. They said he doesn't put in the same amount of time and effort. It showed.
Plus he seems a little lost when he's out there.
cleller
10/1/2011, 07:53 PM
Whaley just continues to impress.
Total yards OU 406-116
TOP: BSU 16:46 OU 13:14
Score: OU 38 BSU 6
MI Sooner
10/1/2011, 07:56 PM
just when i thought we found oursleves a kicker.....
Our coaches need to realize that kicking isn't like quarterbacking. It's not a situation where if you have two, you don't have any. Stevens is money from inside 40, so let him kick inside 40. Who care how ugly it is? Let Hunnicutt take the longer ones.
nighttrain12
10/1/2011, 07:56 PM
Toby Rowland just said the OU twirler is twirling her batons with fire now! I should have got the PPV for that!
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 07:58 PM
sad Finchy has let his physical condition slip
Half Time Stats
Ball St Oklahoma
1st Downs 5 19
3rd down efficiency 3-9 4-6
4th down efficiency 0-0 0-0
Total Yards 116 406
Passing 65 297
Comp-Att 9-20 19-29
Yards per pass 3.3 10.2
Rushing 51 109
Rushing Attempts 16 17
Yards per rush 3.2 6.4
Penalties 2-10 1-9
Turnovers 3 2
Fumbles lost 0 1
Interceptions thrown 3 1
Possession 16:46 13:14
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 08:00 PM
Was the Jefferson 1 handed int like the one Everage got vs KU in 2000 and got some love for?
SoonerKnight
10/1/2011, 08:01 PM
WOW!! I am missing some good stuff! So the D finally showed up?
King Barry's Back
10/1/2011, 08:04 PM
Everyone wonders why Finch doesn't play more. He showed it. After that long run, he ran out if gas and pulled up. Then he had to go out. They said he doesn't put in the same amount of time and effort. It showed.
Who is "they"? Not questioning your credibility, nor trying to pry... Just wondering if this is coming from players? Coaches? Sports "journalists"? What?
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 08:05 PM
So does Bell or Allen get to play in the 3Q?
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 08:06 PM
I would love to see bell play some, but drew is the back up.
We should see both Allen and Bell at QB tonight...
It's time for the Chicken drive!
BROYLES TD!!!!
Someone just won a bunch of chicken!
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 08:11 PM
Wow
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 08:11 PM
Broyles!!!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 08:11 PM
TD!!!
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 08:11 PM
He means a strike...a bolt!
XFollower
10/1/2011, 08:11 PM
Yea free chicken for a year... wait I mean TD!!!
salth2o
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
Niiice.
SoonerOX
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
Chicken!
CarolinaSoonerFan
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
I want some chicken!!!
fadada1
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
that TD was worth a bunch of poultry.
We're all invited to the winner's house for chicken!
ouflak
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
:)
hawaii 5-0
10/1/2011, 08:12 PM
I luv me some chiken.
5-0
salth2o
10/1/2011, 08:13 PM
BROYLES TD!!!!
Someone just won a bunch of chicken!
http://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf
that TD was worth a bunch of poultry.
Poultry in motion!!
SoonerKnight
10/1/2011, 08:14 PM
At what score does 2nd team play?
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 08:15 PM
LJ over 360yds....how much longer will the starters stay in?
SoonerKnight
10/1/2011, 08:16 PM
seems that q was asked.
meoveryouxinfinity
10/1/2011, 08:17 PM
who cares who is in at QB? I just hope we run our backup RBs and not show anything else for game film for Texas.
WA. Sooner
10/1/2011, 08:17 PM
1 more drive
Bob always keeps the first team in as long as possible, it seems. I would think LJ may play one more possession before Allen comes in.
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 08:17 PM
seems that q was asked.
Great minds...
nighttrain12
10/1/2011, 08:17 PM
http://instagr.am/p/O0S-8/
“Our baton twirler is cooler than yours. #BOOMER”
http://images.instagram.com/media/2011/10/01/6f7a24da6c4f48898eb3a6dae0f8d76f_7.jpg
http://images.instagram.com/media/2011/10/01/6f7a24da6c4f48898eb3a6dae0f8d76f_7.jpg
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 08:18 PM
#12 in there on the knockdown
8timechamps
10/1/2011, 08:18 PM
who cares who is in at QB? I just hope we run our backup RBs and not show anything else for game film for Texas.
I do. No reason to get LJ hurt (or even risk it) if the game is in hand. Although, it is a little early to pull LJ I guess.
No Sacks tonight.... No runs for a loss..... Where is the defense??
nighttrain12
10/1/2011, 08:18 PM
Where is Jimmy again?
Quad issue.
SoonerofAlabama
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
Jaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ
This is just unfair now
salth2o
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
half a hunnerd.
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
I wish I could see the game!
nighttrain12
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
Toby is certainly calling a good game. First time listening to him.
I agree.
cccasooner2
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
Jaz for the TD.
soonerfan69
10/1/2011, 08:19 PM
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ
This is just unfair now
As it should be
Hung a half a hundred on BS
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 08:21 PM
Whaley - 14 Rushes
Clay - 1 Rush
Finch - 3 Rushes
I like that percentage
nighttrain12
10/1/2011, 08:21 PM
No Sacks tonight.... No runs for a loss..... Where is the defense??
Only giving up 2 FG's and with 3 INT's.
LJ now with 417 passing yards.
Sooner70
10/1/2011, 08:22 PM
Did Fleming ever come back in? His status?
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 08:22 PM
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ
This is just unfair now
Meh. They are getting paid well to get their @sses beat. Plus, an all expenses paid trip to God's country.
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 08:23 PM
Did Fleming ever come back in? His status?
He had a concussion, he can't come back in. He's questionable for Texas
hotshot13422
10/1/2011, 08:23 PM
Tom Wort with a defensive TD!!!!
BeaSooner
10/1/2011, 08:23 PM
Defensive TD!!!!!
SoonerPride93
10/1/2011, 08:23 PM
This is insane!
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