Before the "fire coach xyz, etc." threads start, please read.

[8timechamps]

We didn't look as sharp tonight defensively as we did last week, but I think that was a little to be expected coming off of such an emotional (and well played) game on the road. However, I've already seen a lot of negative posts about how week looked tonight. I just want to give you some food for thought...

Missour is not a bad team. and I thought to be a 21 point favorite, was awful high for this game.


1. Other than tonight, their (Mizzou) only loss thus far was on the road, against a solid ASU team. They may not be as talented at QB as they were last year, but defensively, they are better. I think Missouri is one of the few teams that are not "afraid" of us, and it showed again tonight.

2. We aren't going to look like world beaters every week. It's just never going to happen, with any great team. That's college football.

3. We got down early by 11 points to a good team (not a great team), that had nothing to lose and just enough talent to do something with that "nothing to lose" mentality. We never panicked, and took control of the game in the second quarter. I was never worried after we got up by 10.

4. We were without our #2 and #3 receivers, and Landry still passed for over 400 yards against a team that defensively will probably end the season in the top 25 or 30 best in the country. Think about what we were able to do without those two...something most teams couldn't.

5. We have the best coaches in the country. We can analyze this game for the next week (and I'm sure we will), but the coaches we have will do what needs to be done to correct the problems and get the wins.

This team is special. If they lose this year, it's not going to be because we ran into a team that's mentally or physically tougher.

Will we lose some first place votes? Maybe, but the BCS is still weeks away, and if we take care of business, we'll be there in the end.

I'm always happy for a win, even one that looks closer than the game actually was.

[Curly Bill]

We didn't play great tonight but I don't see any reason to fire anybody either, and yeah Mizzu is not a bad team.

[Curly Bill]

I'm not even picking on BV after this one. :encouragement:

[8timechamps]

We didn't play great tonight but I don't see any reason to fire anybody either, and yeah Mizzu is not a bad team.

When you and I start agreeing so much on things, it starts to worry me...like you're being really nice, then you're going to steal my girlfriend, retirement savings and somehow manage to adopt my kids.



On second thought, I'd be okay with the kids thing...

[agoo758]

Point 2, is probably the best point for every national championship team. I've never seen a team go through every week without a little adversity. Overcoming a 14-3 deficit to dominate the rest of the game for the most part ought to give us a lot of encouragement.

[badger]

Fire Hype-L those QB stats aren't gonna get us the Heisman!

Fire Vulnerables, Mizzou scored a lot of points

Fire Jackie Shipp and hire him to be on TV full-time, I love watching him get on his players no matter what :D

Fire Stoops for replacing the kicker. I was very much looking forward to more post-kick reaction shots.

[Mark_in_Tulsa]

I don't think positive threads are allowed here after a win.

Someone lock this up.

[Curly Bill]

When you and I start agreeing so much on things, it starts to worry me...like you're being really nice, then you're going to steal my girlfriend, retirement savings and somehow manage to adopt my kids.



On second thought, I'd be okay with the kids thing...

What does your gf look like? :beguiled:

[8timechamps]

Fire Hype-L those QB stats aren't gonna get us the Heisman!

Fire Vulnerables, Mizzou scored a lot of points

Fire Jackie Shipp and hire him to be on TV full-time, I love watching him get on his players no matter what :D

Fire Stoops for replacing the kicker. I was very much looking forward to more post-kick reaction shots.

FIRE badger for sucking me into a 20 point OU game on vBookie...I'm addicted to my vCash now, so that makes you my vPimp!

Fixed

[8timechamps]

What does your gf look like? :beguiled:

Reallllly fat, and realllly ugly. Oh, and she really mean. You wouldn't like her. At all.

Now, back to the kids.

[Curly Bill]

Yeah, if nothing else I'm just happy I didn't have to watch Jimmy kick! :victorious:

[Curly Bill]

Reallllly fat, and realllly ugly. Oh, and she really mean. You wouldn't like her. At all.

Now, back to the kids.

Ages, height's and can they play B-ball?

[BlownGP]

Point 2, is probably the best point for every national championship team. I've never seen a team go through every week without a little adversity. Overcoming a 14-3 deficit to dominate the rest of the game for the most part ought to give us a lot of encouragement.

Yeah, didnt Auburn have a couple come from behind wins last year? It happens..

[8timechamps]

Ages, height's and can they play B-ball?

16 yrs 6'5" (only basketball)
11 yrs 5' [baseball and football...two sports for the price of two!]

[8timechamps]

Yeah, didnt Auburn have a couple come from behind wins last year? It happens..

They did, and they also beat unranked Clemson in OT. That's just how it is.

[Curly Bill]

16 yrs 6'5" (only basketball)
11 yrs 5' [baseball and football...two sports for the price of two!]

Can I borrow this one for a coupla years?

[oudavid1]

I think the best reason is: These are college kids who are not getting paid (see LSU) so we should be happy they play as hard as they do and we are winning. Boomer!

[8timechamps]

Can I borrow this one for a coupla years?

I'll get back to you on that...he's a junior in high school, and he's getting some interest to play at the next level...let me see how that pans out, then we can reevaluate at the point ... mmmmkay?

[badger]

[quote]FIRE badger for sucking me into a 20 point OU game on vBookie...I'm addicted to my vCash now, so that makes you my vPimp![/quote

Well, now that all of your vCash is gone, you won't become vAddicted.

We have a program for those who are afraid of losing vCash: It is called the vBookie vBank. You simply deposit your vCash before Saturday and get 0.5 percent interest by Sunday.

We have not started any programs yet for vAddicts yet, but we may start one soon if necessary.

However, if you are finding yourself stressing over vBets, I highly recommend taking a week off and just depositing it in the vBank. :D

[OU_Sooners75]

We definitely did not play our best game tonight and still won easily.

I was very confused as to why we played a 3 man front the entire game. But, hey, we won and did what we had to.

BOOMER!

[Curly Bill]

I'll get back to you on that...he's a junior in high school, and he's getting some interest to play at the next level...let me see how that pans out, then we can reevaluate at the point ... mmmmkay?

:chargrined: I guess.

[SoonerKnight]

So is Stoops i think he figured he did not need the stress!

[8timechamps]

[quote]FIRE badger for sucking me into a 20 point OU game on vBookie...I'm addicted to my vCash now, so that makes you my vPimp![/quote

Well, now that all of your vCash is gone, you won't become vAddicted.

We have a program for those who are afraid of losing vCash: It is called the vBookie vBank. You simply deposit your vCash before Saturday and get 0.5 percent interest by Sunday.

We have not started any programs yet for vAddicts yet, but we may start one soon if necessary.

However, if you are finding yourself stressing over vBets, I highly recommend taking a week off and just depositing it in the vBank. :D

I found a little place to do Vrehab. I'm going to give it a try (it's at some online casino). And to make sure I didn't lose it all, I did make a vdeposit in the vbank. I'm just afraid if I go by to use the Vatm, I'll get robbed by some vthugs. Then I'll have to go to the vMafia to get my money back, and before know it, I'm making the movie Vgoodfellas...thats' a lot of vwork.

[AlboSooner]

This team is special. If they lose this year, it's not going to be because we ran into a team that's mentally or physically tougher

Bama and LSU might have something to say about that.

[OU_Sooners75]

Bama and LSU might have something to say about that.
Bama will absolutely own LSU this year...

LSU may look good, but take a very close look to who they have played. Not their ranking either!

[TMcGee86]

I think you give Mizzou too much credit.

They've played one bcs conf team and never lead in that game and only tied it at the very end.

The only other D1 school they've played is winless, and they barely beat them.

But you are right about one thing, Mizzou does not fear us. They showed up ready to play and punched us in the mouth. Luckily they are not a good team or we would have lost tonight. I'm just hoping we came out over confident and slightly down after last weeks big game.

I'm also glad we have a easy game next week. We need a tune up before Texas.

[OutlandTrophy]

We've played up and down to our competition for the most part since Bob got here.

[OU_Sooners75]

I think you give Mizzou too much credit.

They've played one bcs conf team and never lead in that game and only tied it at the very end.

The only other D1 school they've played is winless, and they barely beat them.

But you are right about one thing, Mizzou does not fear us. They showed up ready to play and punched us in the mouth. Luckily they are not a good team or we would have lost tonight. I'm just hoping we came out over confident and slightly down after last weeks big game.

I'm also glad we have a easy game next week. We need a tune up before Texas.

I think OU was facing the fatigue of playing FSU still this weekend. Just like how if you watched the FSU game, you would have saw that both OU and FSU started their games very slowly.

A lot of people had upset alert on going into this game.

Once OU settled down, they took control of the game and totally dominated.

[OU_Sooners75]

We've played up and down to our competition for the most part since Bob got here.

Honest question:

What is actually playing up or down to competition?

I think it is just a confidence and respect level. If you are overconfident going into a game, you tend not to really respect them. This leads to a lack of concentration and focus. If you have a high level of respect for a team, you tend to have a confidence level about you that makes you fired up and more concentrated and focused on the game.

I think this game against Misery was not a play down or up to the competition. I think it was a hang over from the FSU game. We started slow...but once we settled in and got more focused, we really took over the game.

[SoonerMom2]

I think Landry missed Kenny Stills on offense until he finally got in a rhythm as the game went on. Was impressed how they never got rattled when they went down.

What got me was the people leaving after MO scored in the 4th quarter. We stayed until the end but then we always do. The students didn't better staying around this game then they have some others.

Think it was definitely hangover. That was such a huge game and an emotional one. At the first time out, Governor Fallin, her husband, Pres Boren and Joe C celebrated some Key Lime pie courtesy of the Florida Governor Scott as Mary won the bet.

[OutlandTrophy]

Honest question:

What is actually playing up or down to competition?

I think it is just a confidence and respect level. If you are overconfident going into a game, you tend not to really respect them. This leads to a lack of concentration and focus. If you have a high level of respect for a team, you tend to have a confidence level about you that makes you fired up and more concentrated and focused on the game.

I think this game against Misery was not a play down or up to the competition. I think it was a hang over from the FSU game. We started slow...but once we settled in and got more focused, we really took over the game.

It means that we typically play better against better teams.

[SoonerMarkVA]

We definitely did not play our best game tonight and still won easily.

I was very confused as to why we played a 3 man front the entire game. But, hey, we won and did what we had to.

BOOMER!

Man, you weren't the only one. I felt like we were out there the entire night in prevent D.

[Sooner_Tuf]

I think maybe we were looking ahead to Ball State.

[MR2-Sooner86]

LSU should be #1 and Alabama is looking good enough to be above us as well.

OU gave up 532 yards to unranked Mizzou at home en route to a 10 point win.
LSU gave up 533 on the road to #16 ranked WV en route to a 26 point win.

You can spin and pump all the sunshine you want but last week's game doesn't excuse a poor performance at home. Last week's team was lights out but this week's team was caught off guard. Come Texas, will the real OU please stand up?

Lucky for us it's early in the season and there's a whole lot more football to be played. We'll only get better from here but there are problems that need to be addressed.

[Vegas Sooner]

I think maybe we were looking ahead to Ball State.

....me too.

[cleller]

I'm glad we got the win, and put away Missouri, but do have some concerns about the defense. As pointed out in the Tulsa World, the D gave up 532 yards on our home field. 282 yards in the first half, which is more than FSU had the whole game. Luckily, the offense played well at home, as usual, gaining 592 yards.
I never really felt confident could force a punt.

Now, for a serious question, do you think we would have won had the game been in Missouri?

[HAMTTX]

Fire the coach? Really? I think if anyone suggested that they should have to post who they see as a capable replacement. That way I can make fun of them.

[SoonerLaw09]

Stoops said at his halftime interview that the 2 early big plays/TDs resulted from them catching us in man coverage, and due to a bust. Said we adjusted after that, which is why we were in a 3-man front the rest of the game with Wort playing a sort of rover-LB and a nickel package in. Yeah, we had FSU hangover, and weren't sharp in the 1st quarter, but after that...duh, winning! I was comfy in my chair at halftime. We had a good 2nd half yet again, responding with long TD drives when needed. So Mizery got a garbage TD at the end of the game, making the score look close when we all know it wasn't.

As for Moe and the rest of those twerps, the SEC can have them for all I care. NEXT!

P.S. Ball State beat Army by a lot today. Fear?

[101sooner]

I think OU was facing the fatigue of playing FSU still this weekend. Just like how if you watched the FSU game, you would have saw that both OU and FSU started their games very slowly.

A lot of people had upset alert on going into this game.

Once OU settled down, they took control of the game and totally dominated.

Finally, some one gets this. That game last Saturday at FSU was an emotional bloodletting. I was at that game and both teams laid it completely on the line. They left nothing on the field. I knew that we were going to come out flat all week. There's just no way to recover in 6 days from something that was built up for almost a year.

[VA Sooner]

Re-watched the game this morning and without the emotions of not knowing the outcome of the game.

Team did wake up after being behind and a good lesson for the team as well. We can come from behind, albeit in our own stadium against a less-talented but very good team.

A bit of a let-down game after a hard-fought game in Florida last week. I thought we did OK but we definitely need to shore up the middle of the field better.... huge soft spot there for big plays.

[landrun]

Bama will absolutely own LSU this year...
LSU may look good, but take a very close look to who they have played. Not their ranking either!

You've gotta be kidding. They've played Oregon and WV.
Oregon may have the best offense in the nation while WV is as good as any offense we've seen yet.
The LSU defense is for real. They're outstanding. In spite of playing two of the best offenses in the nation, they're a top 20 defense. OU is struggling to break into the top .. 90 ... (82)... So to say the reason our D has looked suspect is because of who we played is a little weak. And to say LSU hasn't played anyone is also ignoring the facts.

[landrun]

.... I was very confused as to why we played a 3 man front the entire game. ....

I think it had something to do with the Mizzou receivers running down the middle of the field for long touchdowns against our D when we blitzed. :rapture:
I love bringing the heat, but in this game, it was the best move Venables made IMO.

[MsProudSooner]

Speaking of Missouri's only other loss being to ASU, ASU trounced USC last night.

[sooneredaco]

I have one complaint. I started to worry after we were down 14-3 and I drowned my sorrows away with jameson, so.... I watched the whole come back lit! Oh wait.... That's not a complaint.... NM!

You may continue with your regularly scheduled blogging

[sooneredaco]

You've gotta be kidding. They've played Oregon and WV.
Oregon may have the best offense in the nation while WV is as good as any offense we've seen yet.
The LSU defense is for real. They're outstanding. In spite of playing two of the best offenses in the nation, they're a top 20 defense. OU is struggling to break into the top .. 90 ... (82)... So to say the reason our D has looked suspect is because of who we played is a little weak. And to say LSU hasn't played anyone is also ignoring the facts.

They're good.... But let's not get ahead of ourselves. They're good, but they gave up a sick amount of yards last night. Like 600 or something. Yea they won and got a couple turnovers but they are not light years ahead of Bama, or hell us for that matter. The season early and OUr boys and the sharks are going to show the same kind of grit the rest of the year.

[8timechamps]

I think you give Mizzou too much credit.

They've played one bcs conf team and never lead in that game and only tied it at the very end.

The only other D1 school they've played is winless, and they barely beat them.

But you are right about one thing, Mizzou does not fear us. They showed up ready to play and punched us in the mouth. Luckily they are not a good team or we would have lost tonight. I'm just hoping we came out over confident and slightly down after last weeks big game.

I'm also glad we have a easy game next week. We need a tune up before Texas.

We won't know for sure until later in the year, but by then we'll obviously know more about our team too.

Yeah, they lost to ASU...but they were down 14 points in the fourth quarter, on the road to a really good team, and managed to push that to OT (where Pinkel promptly froze his own kicker). A bad or average team doesn't do that. The fact that they gave us a tough time tells me something too. Even if you don't think we're as good as I do, any team that comes to Norman and puts up those kind of numbers is good.

I still think most of it was emotional, coming off of the FSU game. I think Ball State is going to pay the price for what is sure to be a tough week of practice.

[booomer]

We didn't play great tonight but I don't see any reason to fire anybody either, and yeah Mizzu is not a bad team.

....but how were the announcers? I'll bet you thought they were awesome! lol

[ashley]

The secondary coach always needs to be fired.

[Curly Bill]

....but how were the announcers? I'll bet you thought they were awesome! lol

Believe it or not some of us pay attention to what's important, namely the game, and not the announcers.

[BoulderSooner79]

Believe it or not some of us pay attention to what's important, namely the game, and not the announcers.

^This.

Ok, I'll bite. There was 1 announcer moment that caught my attention. Hurst had a beautiful pass breakup on that Jackson guy. He timed it perfectly by watching the receivers eyes and hands and got an arm in there and forced the ball out. The play by play guy said there should be a flag because Hurst "didn't turn around and try to play the ball". The color commentator said "that only matters if there is contact before the ball gets there". Play by play guy - "good point".

[badger]

I might be missing the joke... doesnt stoops himself work closely with the secondary :)

[Curly Bill]

^This.

Ok, I'll bite. There was 1 announcer moment that caught my attention. Hurst had a beautiful pass breakup on that Jackson guy. He timed it perfectly by watching the receivers eyes and hands and got an arm in there and forced the ball out. The play by play guy said there should be a flag because Hurst "didn't turn around and try to play the ball". The color commentator said "that only matters if there is contact before the ball gets there". Play by play guy - "good point".

I know the announcers screw up. Unlike some of our posters I just don't swell on it, or think it's that big a deal. :tongue:

[mightysooner]

We didn't look as sharp tonight defensively as we did last week, but I think that was a little to be expected coming off of such an emotional (and well played) game on the road. However, I've already seen a lot of negative posts about how week looked tonight. I just want to give you some food for thought...

Missour is not a bad team. and I thought to be a 21 point favorite, was awful high for this game.


1. Other than tonight, their (Mizzou) only loss thus far was on the road, against a solid ASU team. They may not be as talented at QB as they were last year, but defensively, they are better. I think Missouri is one of the few teams that are not "afraid" of us, and it showed again tonight.

Isn't it our job to make them afraid of us?

2. We aren't going to look like world beaters every week. It's just never going to happen, with any great team. That's college football.

Tell that to Bama and LSU who sure seem to be looking like world beaters every week, against better competition.

3. We got down early by 11 points to a good team (not a great team), that had nothing to lose and just enough talent to do something with that "nothing to lose" mentality. We never panicked, and took control of the game in the second quarter. I was never worried after we got up by 10.

We had a poor, if not completely bizarre, gameplan of using a three man front all night and playing coverage against an unproven, young QB playing his first game in Norman instead of taking away the run game, which was their strength coming in, and forcing him to beat us with his arm in a hostile environment. The result was Mizzou having two 100yd+ rushers and a young QB having all night to throw at will.

4. We were without our #2 and #3 receivers, and Landry still passed for over 400 yards against a team that defensively will probably end the season in the top 25 or 30 best in the country. Think about what we were able to do without those two...something most teams couldn't.

No argument here except for the defense part. This is another middle of the pack defense nationally that still gives up big plays and 3rd and longs from what I've seen so far. We have no DT's either. Thank god for Alexander.

5. We have the best coaches in the country. We can analyze this game for the next week (and I'm sure we will), but the coaches we have will do what needs to be done to correct the problems and get the wins.

Bama has the best coaches in the country in terms of complete staff.

This team is special. If they lose this year, it's not going to be because we ran into a team that's mentally or physically tougher.

Will we lose some first place votes? Maybe, but the BCS is still weeks away, and if we take care of business, we'll be there in the end.

I'm always happy for a win, even one that looks closer than the game actually was.

I hope you're right here. However, you're alluding to this team being mentally and physically tougher than everybody else and I don't think they've shown that. The offense has, but it appears that the defense might be the achilles heel they were predicted to be pre-season. That secondary hasn't shown me jack yet this season. So far they look like the same tired old thing we've seen for years now and that's coverage busts, giving up 3rd and looooongs, and WR's frunning free all night long.

[yukonsooner]

Back at this time in 2000, we looked horrible. I asked the lady that sits next to me if she really was going to the RRS, that it was going to be a blood bath. Boy was I wrong. Just saying that I don't think we can put too much into the performance of one game.

[saucysoonergal]

FIRE 8timechamps‎!!! ;) :)

[8timechamps]

FIRE 8timechamps‎!!! ;) :)

Can't be done. Phil and I worked out a long term agreement with guaranteed money...so, Phil has to ride out the contract or trade me to another board.

Besides ssg, you'd be soooooooooo sad if I were gone.

[8timechamps]

Isn't it our job to make them afraid of us?

How'd that work out last year? I'm not saying we shouldn't make them afraid of us, but Mizzouri is one of the few that aren't.


Tell that to Bama and LSU who sure seem to be looking like world beaters every week, against better competition.

It's three or four games into the season. Show me one team that has won a national title by "beating the world" week in and week out. You can't, because it doesn't happen.

We had a poor, if not completely bizarre, gameplan of using a three man front all night and playing coverage against an unproven, young QB playing his first game in Norman instead of taking away the run game, which was their strength coming in, and forcing him to beat us with his arm in a hostile environment. The result was Mizzou having two 100yd+ rushers and a young QB having all night to throw at will.


I can't really speak to the gameplan, because I don't know what went in to the decision making. We won the game, so by definition, the gameplan worked. By the way, Franklin may be unproven, but the kid is a good QB.

No argument here except for the defense part. This is another middle of the pack defense nationally that still gives up big plays and 3rd and longs from what I've seen so far. We have no DT's either. Thank god for Alexander.

I'll address this more in the next point...



Bama has the best coaches in the country in terms of complete staff.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think we have the best staff in the country

I hope you're right here. However, you're alluding to this team being mentally and physically tougher than everybody else and I don't think they've shown that. The offense has, but it appears that the defense might be the achilles heel they were predicted to be pre-season. That secondary hasn't shown me jack yet this season. So far they look like the same tired old thing we've seen for years now and that's coverage busts, giving up 3rd and looooongs, and WR's frunning free all night long.


Did you watch the FSU game? We give up some big plays sometimes because of busted coverage. That happens. But, it's not because we're getting outplayed. At least not so far.

I can't imagine how anyone could question the toughness of our defense after the FSU game. But, to each his own.

I don't come in to every season saying we are the best team in the country, or we have the best players/staff, etc. I don't think that every year we are going to run the table to the title. This year I'm saying it, because I believe it to be the case.

My take is that a lot of people think that Mizzou was a mediocre team that we should've beaten by three or more TDs. I think those folks are wrong. I think Mizzou is much better than they get credit for which is part of the reason they were able to stay in the game. I also believe we left everything on the field in Tallahassee, and if you've ever played football, you know it's hard to come back at 100% the very next week.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I think because of Mizzou losing to ASU that people under estimate this tiger team..Yeah their secondary isn't good, but they could have easily came in undefeated with an impressive win on the road against ASU...That ASU team is very athletic on defense and superb at quarterback..ASU could give these Sooners quite the test in the same environment.

But if Mizzou wins that game, then the tigers come in somewhere in the 15-18 range in the top 25 and then people feel better about a 10 point win.

[BoulderSooner79]

I think because of Mizzou losing to ASU that peoplehttp://www.soonerfans.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3355146 under estimate this tiger team..Yeah their secondary isn't good, but they could have easily came in undefeated with an impressive win on the road against ASU...That ASU team is very athletic on defense and superb at quarterback..ASU could give these Sooners quite the test in the same environment.

But if Mizzou wins that game, then the tigers come in somewhere in the 15-18 range in the top 25 and then people feel better about a 10 point win.

I am definitely impressed with Franklin. This was only his 4th start and we did not force him to give up a turnover - and we did get lots of pressure. It was a 17 pt. win for all practical purposes as Mizzou had to use almost all the remaining time to get that last window dressing. I was so glad they basically admitted it didn't bother with the obligatory on-side kick while down 2 scores with seconds remaining.