What's your craps strategy?

[GDC]

I usually put $5-25 on the pass line for the come out roll. No seven or eleven, I back up with an odds bet and then place a couple come bets until I hit my number or a seven. No field, big sixes or eights, horn bets, etc, all for suckers, imo.

[FirstandGoal]

Its been a few years since I've been to Vegas, but this is usually what I did as well.

One time I was playing it "smart" and had max odds on a 6, couple of come bets with odds backed up on that and some jackass came right up and put a c-note down on the horn bet double 6's. Which was immediately rolled next. Which was immediately followed by a 7. :mad:

I couldn't get away from that table fast enough after that.

[GDC]

I hate it when a table is rocking, someone's on a serious streak, and some doosh comes up and starts playing the don't pass and don't come lines.

:mad:

[sooner_born_1960]

STEP needs to weigh in on this question.

[GDC]

The nice thing is, craps and blackjack are the only games where you can ever have an actual edge against the house, except for some rare forms of video poker.

[C&CDean]

I've played thousands - nay tens of thousands of hands of blackjack at casinos all over the world. I understand the game. Everything about the game.

Craps? I've never once put a dollar on a crap table. Why? I don't understand the game. I ain't playing something I don't get. I've played Let it Ride, Caribbean Stud, etc. thousands of times too, but no craps. People sure do seem to like it though.

[SoonerLaw09]

Usually one large one in the morning, first thing, then as needed in the afternoon.

Oh wait....

[Tulsa_Fireman]

I usually put $5-25 on the pass line for the come out roll. No seven or eleven, I back up with an odds bet and then place a couple come bets until I hit my number or a seven. No field, big sixes or eights, horn bets, etc, all for suckers, imo.

This, kinda.

On occasion if I have an even number on the button or come line I'll match it up with a small hard way bet. If I lose it, no big deal, I hit my number and odds anyway. If I hit it, I hit my number, odds, AND the big odds from the hard way. No way do I place a hard way bet without a backer from the pass or come lines that are also backed with odds.

[C&CDean]

This, kinda.

On occasion if I have an even number on the button or come line I'll match it up with a small hard way bet. If I lose it, no big deal, I hit my number and odds anyway. If I hit it, I hit my number, odds, AND the big odds from the hard way. No way do I place a hard way bet without a backer from the pass or come lines that are also backed with odds.

See what I mean? You may as well be speaking trog.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Seriously?

Craps is a blast and yeah, you have to understand it. But once you do, it's straight forward, no BS, easy to play. It just looks and sounds confusing.

Would you liketh the student to teach the master?

[OutlandTrophy]

I usually put $5-25 on the pass line for the come out roll. No seven or eleven, I back up with an odds bet and then place a couple come bets until I hit my number or a seven. No field, big sixes or eights, horn bets, etc, all for suckers, imo.

That's pretty much my strategy. I find craps to be much more fun than blackjack and you don't have to worry about some idiot splitting 10s or hitting on 16 when the dealer is showing a 2 etc

[Tulsa_Fireman]

I often come up to the table, flex my guns, and blow on 1TC's dice.

*winkwinkflexnudgenudge*

[C&CDean]

Yes grasshoppah...

It looks hella fun, and I know several people who play it but they always go "just do what I do and you'll be OK." I go "no, I need to know wtf you're doing."

Last time I was in Vegas I think we were in the Monte Carlo and they were giving craps lessons. I almost went over there - but I was knocking them dead at the blackjack table and you can't **** with that kind of karma. There's been a couple times I've damn near busted a kidney because the table was hot and I ain't gonna jinx it by taking a whizz.

[OutlandTrophy]

I often come up to the table, flex my guns, and blow on 1TC's dice.

*winkwinkflexnudgenudge*

troof

:hot:

[C&CDean]

and you don't have to worry about some idiot splitting 10s or hitting on 16 when the dealer is showing a 2 etc

Momma won't hardly sit by me at blackjack tables cause I come unglued when people do this. Actually, I'm very nice about it and usually say something like "dude, you really don't wanna do that" before the play is finished. If the guy goes "really? ok, what should I do" it's all good. If the guy goes "go **** yourself I'll play my way, you play yours" I pull my money off the table and go to a different table. I will shoot a few parting shots though like "wtf kind of an idiot sits down at a $25 table and throws a black chip down and doesn't have a clue how to play? Jeez, some people..."

[rekamrettuB]

Momma won't hardly sit by me at blackjack tables cause I come unglued when people do this. Actually, I'm very nice about it and usually say something like "dude, you really don't wanna do that" before the play is finished. If the guy goes "really? ok, what should I do" it's all good. If the guy goes "go **** yourself I'll play my way, you play yours" I pull my money off the table and go to a different table. I will shoot a few parting shots though like "wtf kind of an idiot sits down at a $25 table and throws a black chip down and doesn't have a clue how to play? Jeez, some people..."

This is why I like sitting in 1st position. At least stupid decisions like that are done after I'm finished with my hand.

[OutlandTrophy]

but they can still take the dealer's bust card

[rekamrettuB]

but they can still take the dealer's bust card

There's no way around it but my hand is over and I don't have to play my hand thinking about what some idiot just did in front of me. I'm not saying it's a fool proof strategy, just saying it keeps me from going crazy.

[OutlandTrophy]

while you stayed at 19 it wouldn't bother you if some clown to your left split 10s to make two 18s and the dealer hits on 16 to get a 20?

I don't see that it matters which position he's in as long as he's at your table he's ****ing your hand up. right?

[C&CDean]

It doesn't matter where you're sitting, blackjack buffoons eff the whole table. I almost always sit at 3rd base, and sometimes sit at 1st. If Mr. Numbnuts is anywhere on the table and he takes a dealer's bust card, or worse yet, makes a hand of 18 or 19 for himself while everyone else loses to the dealer's 17 it's still bad news.

Another thing people don't think about - once Mr. Numbnuts has made his play, the whole rest of the shoe is "off" from where it was. And I'm telling you that 90% it's off in a bad, bad way. I hate drive-by shooters too.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Okay, here's the table.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/craps-3.gif

The root basis of the bet is that whatever's rolled, you bet that either the shooter will throw that number again or that he'll throw a seven. From the board, you can see there's a bet for just about every different roll result there is. Ignore that crap for now. We want to focus on the "Pass Line".

When the "button" is off (a puck that says ON on one side, OFF on the other), no number is set for the shooter to try and throw to. This makes the next roll the "come out" roll, which sets the number and starts the round. If you place a bet on the pass line, you're betting that whatever number (excluding 2, 3, and 12, "craps", or a "natural 7 or 11, both winners) the shooter rolls, the shooter will hit again before he hits a seven. Let's say it's a five. The table will place the "button" with the ON side showing on the number five. Again, your bet is that the shooter will hit a 5 before he hits a 7. If he rolls a 7, the pass line bet loses, the round is over, the table is cleared, and the "button" comes off the table and is OFF. The next roll will be a new "come out" roll and a new round will begin.

The Don't Pass Line is the exact opposite of the Pass Line. It's saying that the shooter will roll a 7 before he rolls the number from the come out roll.

The Come/Don't Come lines work just like the Pass/Don't Pass lines except this bet is placed AFTER the come out roll. Again, your shooter came out with a 5. There's only one Pass Line bet, the 5. Before the next shot, you place your chips on the Come Line and the shooter rolls, for example, a 9. Now you're betting that the shooter will roll a 5 (pass line) or a 9 (come line) before he rolls a 7. Again, just like a mini Pass Line bet during the round. This bet, once rolled, either craps out (2, 3, 12), is a winner (7, 11, though a 7 will make you LOSE your pass line bet), or moves to the edge of the box surrounding the appropriate number, in this case a 9.

All the other stuff is simply sucker bets, as was mentioned. One-off permutations of dice rolls. The 6:8 section on the table, Big 6 and Big 8, is a single round bet that the shooter, if they hit a 6 or 8, will hit the 6 with a 5&1 or an 8 with a 6&2. Hardways are just as they're listed on the board. Doubles of the numbers. 4&4 for a "hard" eight, 3&3 for a "hard" six, et cetera.

Now we're sitting with bets on the 5 and the 9. You can place "odds" bets, which simply are placed next to your existing bets and increase your take if they hit (pass line bets are even odds by themselves, odds bets increase the odds and your winnings relatively). You could've stopped with just the Pass Line bet and rode out the round. But you didn't, you placed a Come Line bet. Let's call that good. With the 3rd roll, the shooter hits a 9. You win! Your Come Line bet is a winner and you get paid. But the Pass Line bet remains because the shooter hasn't hit a 5 or a 7.

Sounds like a lot, but just remember, the whole bet is that the shooter will either repeat the number he threw or throw a seven. YOU decide which way you want to bet it.

[C&CDean]

That's helpful. I'd like to print this and follow along for a few rounds to see it in action. Actually, it sounds pretty simple - the hardest part is getting the vernacular down - I mean once you figure out what is really stupid/not stupid to do and stuff. Too bad they don't have craps in OK.

[Breadburner]

My favorite place is at home.....

[Tulsa_Fireman]

At one time we had a Craps game in the Arcade. It does a pretty good job of giving you the feel of how the bets fall together. It may not have the buzz of a hot or cold table, but it's a lot cheaper than learning on the real thing.

[C&CDean]

At one time we had a Craps game in the Arcade. It does a pretty good job of giving you the feel of how the bets fall together. It may not have the buzz of a hot or cold table, but it's a lot cheaper than learning on the real thing.

Do they have table limits in craps? You know like blackjack? $5 minimum, $500 max, etc?

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Yeah.

[8timechamps]

Craps is the only thing I ever play in Vegas.

I always go 5/25 on the pass, and start with the 6 and the 8. If the table has good flow, then I'll venture out to the 9 or sometimes the 5. I stay completely away from the sucker bets, but if I'm up far enough, I'll occasionally play a hard 6, hard 8 (but not with big money). Although, I have gotten lucky a few times with the field.

My biggest pet peeve is when the table is on a roll and a new person rolls the dice off the table. Really? I can see it happening once in a while, but on every roll?!

If you've never played craps, do yourself a favor and learn the game. It looks intimidating at first, but once you figure it out, it's the best game in any casino.

[8timechamps]

Do they have table limits in craps? You know like blackjack? $5 minimum, $500 max, etc?

Most of the time, Vegas starts at a $10 minimum, but you can find tables that are $5. The best thing is when you start early at a $10 minimum, get on a roll, and when you leave the table is at $20 minimum. That usually means there are a lot of players at the table, which means it's hot.

[8timechamps]

That's helpful. I'd like to print this and follow along for a few rounds to see it in action. Actually, it sounds pretty simple - the hardest part is getting the vernacular down - I mean once you figure out what is really stupid/not stupid to do and stuff. Too bad they don't have craps in OK.

You'll pick it up fast (it's not like you're 1TC or DCSooner). For me, the most confusing part was knowing how much I could back all of my bets. Because you can back your pass/don't pass bet, and you can back youe number bets too. That's how you make big money.

[FirstandGoal]

Craps is the only thing I ever play in Vegas.

I always go 5/25 on the pass, and start with the 6 and the 8. If the table has good flow, then I'll venture out to the 9 or sometimes the 5. I stay completely away from the sucker bets, but if I'm up far enough, I'll occasionally play a hard 6, hard 8 (but not with big money). Although, I have gotten lucky a few times with the field.

My biggest pet peeve is when the table is on a roll and a new person rolls the dice off the table. Really? I can see it happening once in a while, but on every roll?!

If you've never played craps, do yourself a favor and learn the game. It looks intimidating at first, but once you figure it out, it's the best game in any casino.

^^^^^^^^^^ This

I love craps, but it takes a bigger bankroll IMO than sitting down for a Blackjack session. Anybody who goes to play craps without being willing to bet max on the odds is wasting their time and money. My very first trip to Vegas I let this game intimidate me and I didn't want to play. Which was stupid because if you can add, you can play craps. Before my next trip I practiced by playing a computer game and knew all the different types of bets to make.

[sanantoniosooner]

Avoid tearing through the TP with the fingers at all costs.

[John Kochtoston]

Max odds on the pass line, buy the 6 and 8 (double the bet on the other No. if one of those is the point) and make come bets (with odds if allowed) if the point is a 4 or 10. To tip, I play two-way hard 8s.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I find a guy thats winning and place the same bets as him...

[btk108]

Craps in Vegas is the bomb. Craps in Oklahoma is just that, CRAP. That card flipping deal just sucks.

I play it safe until I'm comfortable with the roller....bet the pass, 6 and 8

[XFollower]

I usually have a couple of cups of coffee to induce the situation. CIBM = caffeine induced bowel movement. Then when the time is right, I settle onto the toilet like a bull rider on the beast, nod my head, and let er rip.

[GDC]

Craps in Vegas is the bomb. Craps in Oklahoma is just that, CRAP. That card flipping deal just sucks.

Yes, plus they make you ante on the come out roll, so there goes your edge.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I usually don't use much strategy...I just drop it wherever I find a convenient place

[salth2o]

Avoid tearing through the TP with the fingers at all costs.

LMAO!


I play the pass line w/odds. My odds bet will vary between $10 and $50, just depends on the table/roller/point/etc. When the point is established I play the "inside" 5, 6, 8, and 9. If one of these is the point I press one of the other numbers. Once I build a little bank roll, I like to buy the 4 and/or 10 for $26, which pays $50 each time it hits.

I rarely play the field, but will occasionally throw a red chip out there just for grins. Hard ways are sucker bets, but I always play a $2 two way for each of the numbers (one bet for me, and one for the dealers) They and those in charge of comps appreciate that kind of thing.

Craps is a game where you can win a lot or lose a lot in a short amount of time.

[hawaii 5-0]

When you go into a casino there's always one area where people are yelling, cheering and having a blast. It's the craps table. There's nothing like having a bunch of people cheering you on. It's the most fun casino game by far.

Once the Point is established I go right into covering the 6 and the 8 with odds. Usually I'll cover the 5 and 9 as well. Then I sit back, cheer the shooter and rake in my winnings.

5-0

[C&CDean]

Where in OK do they have craps? It ain't at the Neverwin or T-Bird.

[GDC]

Where in OK do they have craps? It ain't at the Neverwin or T-Bird.

Firelake and Hard Rock are the only ones I know of. They have card-based roullette too.

Not having real dice takes most of the fun out of it.

I think the Osage tried to go with real dice for a while and the state said no-no to that.