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jk the sooner fan
9/12/2011, 10:01 AM
nteresting read along with the WSJ article





The Affirmative Action President By Matt Patterson



Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?



Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer"; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.



And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: "how on Earth was such a man elected president?"



Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: "To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of Liberal-Dom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass."

Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin.



Podhoretz continues: "And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?"



Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon -- affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.



Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin -- that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama.



True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks?



In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people -- conservatives included -- ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth -- it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.



And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?



In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.



But hey, at least we got to feel good about ourselves for a little while. And really, isn't that all that matters these days?

OhU1
9/12/2011, 10:43 AM
"Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin."

This fact has been very obvious from the start. Further, at least early in his term, Obama was not subject to the same criticism and ridicule that comes with the turf when you are President. This is the racism of double standards - as if a black man should be treated differently rather than judged by his ideas and accomplishments. Shamefully, Jimmy Carter was one of the first to state that criticism of Obama is rooted in racism.

badger
9/12/2011, 11:29 AM
I don't think any president is ever held to a lower standard because of the nature of politics itself.

I think Obama was elected because of a giant clashing of political forces around the entire country at the same time:

1- Republicans were loathed from about 2005-2008, blamed for everything that was going wrong everywhere.

2- Hillary Clinton, the only other major Democratic candidate for president in 2008, was utterly repulsive to some, even Democrats.

My ultra-liberal relative from Oregon, whom I love dearly despite our differing political views, told me that she had waited her entire life to vote a woman for president, but that Hillary was the wrong one. I think a lot of Dems felt similarly to her.

Now... will Obama be elected to a second term? THEN you might be able to make a stronger affirmative action claim.

Turd_Ferguson
9/12/2011, 12:36 PM
http://thetruthorthefight.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/604_obama_white_liberal_guilt1.jpg?w=450&h=315

JohnnyMack
9/12/2011, 12:40 PM
I think Obama was elected because of a giant clashing of political forces around the entire country at the same time:

1- Republicans were loathed from about 2005-2008, blamed for everything that was going wrong everywhere.

2- Hillary Clinton, the only other major Democratic candidate for president in 2008, was utterly repulsive to some, even Democrats.



Game, set, match, Badger.

It wasn't about affirmative action, it was about a lack of options.

Turd_Ferguson
9/12/2011, 12:51 PM
Game, set, match, Badger.

It wasn't about affirmative action, it was about a lack of options.

Take your glasses off...

http://0.tqn.com/d/chicago/1/0/d/5/-/-/83564102_10.jpg

badger
9/12/2011, 12:53 PM
Game, set, match, Badger.

It wasn't about affirmative action, it was about a lack of options.

Although, by that same line of thought, will the 2012 election be about lack of options again?

I mean, Obama will run unopposed for the Demmie nomination, but will the Republicans be able to put up a viable candidate?

NOW, riddle me this, Batman. We are dealing with the opposite that we were when Obama was election: Anti-Democrat angst is very high. Sooooo... will the Republicans elect a woman and if they do, will the same "affirmative action" claims be made about the one they elect?

pphilfran
9/12/2011, 12:56 PM
That's brutal...

JohnnyMack
9/12/2011, 01:07 PM
Take your glasses off...



It has nothing to do with what you (incorrectly) perceive to be my man-crush on BHO and simply my ability to recall facts.

lexsooner
9/13/2011, 11:58 AM
Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way



I concur with Badger's analysis above. Also, this author left out some key facts to try and make his point: Obama graduated with honors near the top of his Harvard Law School class, magna cum laude, which is the top ten percent of his class at one of the best law schools in the world. He was also president of Harvard Law Review. He was an adjunct professor at Chicago, which was a side job, so I would not have expected him to dazzle the academic world.

SanJoaquinSooner
9/13/2011, 01:43 PM
it was the color of the states, not his skin that counted.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/statepopredblue1024.png

But if you are looking for an underlying reason, look to angry God of the Old Testament, wanting to punish McCain for his role in McCain Feingold... and so the pubs must wander in the wilderness for at least 4 years.

TUSooner
9/13/2011, 01:53 PM
"Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin."

This fact has been very obvious from the start. Further, at least early in his term, Obama was not subject to the same criticism and ridicule that comes with the turf when you are President. This is the racism of double standards - as if a black man should be treated differently rather than judged by his ideas and accomplishments. Shamefully, Jimmy Carter was one of the first to state that criticism of Obama is rooted in racism.

I don't agree that Obama has gotten anymore of a pass than any other Pres. Certainly he's been vilified by the RW and the often indistinguishable internet circus crowd at least as much as any prez I have ever heard of. (When's the last white president who's been called the Muslim Anti-Christ?) And EVERY President gets a pass from his supporters, even when he's blown the gig like O has done.
And this idea that white liberal guilt elected Obama is another fantasy mantra of the far RW who think there MUST be something fundamentally illogical about disagreeing with them. So basically I'm not really buying that much of the article.

TUSooner
9/13/2011, 01:56 PM
I don't think any president is ever held to a lower standard because of the nature of politics itself.

I think Obama was elected because of a giant clashing of political forces around the entire country at the same time:

1- Republicans were loathed from about 2005-2008, blamed for everything that was going wrong everywhere.

2- Hillary Clinton, the only other major Democratic candidate for president in 2008, was utterly repulsive to some, even Democrats....


Game, set, match, Badger.

It wasn't about affirmative action, it was about a lack of options.

Correct.
Turd, you are named for your brain!!!! :wink:

badger
9/13/2011, 02:14 PM
Since I brought it up, here's basically how the conversation with my Oregon relative went: We were in the van en route to brother's wedding rehearsal, and since it's pre-election year, I casually bring up the Democratic primaries, because I know she loves to talk politics.

Never, in a million years, did I expect her, a staunch Democrat (you don't get much bluer than Oregon for a blue state, much like Oklahoma is about as red is a red state will get), to say that. Most Democrats at that time were saying that they would support the nominee, regardless of whether it was Obama or Hillary. The public Democrat opinion seemed to be that both were viable, electable candidates and that both would be fabulous as a Democrat president.

If my aunt opposed Hillary, it was clear that something was wrong.

Fast forward to a few months ago. I was talking casually with my Democrat next door neighbors about government in general, and out of nowhere, one of them volunteers this little tidbit:

"I'm starting to think Obama is a Republican."

WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?! Republicans HATE Obama!

But then, I also recalled some people saying the same thing about W. He was spending far too much money to be a conservative, so was he really... a Democrat?!?!??!?!

Funny how Obama, who apparently is a Republican, and W., who apparently is a Democrat, are both loathed by their apparent parties. Perhaps being moderate and willing to compromise or accept things that are not ideal for your party leanings at all times makes you unpopular. Heh. :D

TitoMorelli
9/13/2011, 03:01 PM
Content analysis of network evening news coverage of the 2008 presidential election revealed a slight increase in the amount of coverage and a decline in the coverage of policy matters compared to 4 years earlier. Barack Obama received the most positive coverage recorded for any major party nominee on network television since the Center for Media and Public Affairs started analyzing election news content in 1988. The tonal gap between the Democratic and Republican nominees was also the largest recorded over the past six presidential elections....

http://abs.sagepub.com/content/55/4/354.abstract

Doesn't necessarily fit in with the "affirmative action" idea, but I believe that news organizations and their reporters were so consumed with their desire to witness and cover a "historic" election that their coverage (or failure to cover certain troubling aspects of our president's past and present ties) was a reflection of that desire.

TUSooner
9/13/2011, 06:26 PM
http://abs.sagepub.com/content/55/4/354.abstract

Doesn't necessarily fit in with the "affirmative action" idea, but I believe that news organizations and their reporters were so consumed with their desire to witness and cover a "historic" election that their coverage (or failure to cover certain troubling aspects of our president's past and present ties) was a reflection of that desire.

I can agree with that.

On a different track....
If Obama was the affirmative action prez (assuming for argument's sake), then Bush II (if not also Bush I & many predecessors) was also an affirmative action prez -- in a way. Bush II was the prez of that most venerable form of affirmative action, the Silver Spoon. I mean, he doesn't seem to have done anything well at his Ivy League School, where he got in through money rather than merit. His other "accomplishments" can also be tied to big money and Establishment ties. So, don't kid yourselves, you indignant and self-righteous ones, if Obama got there on something other than merit, he's damn sure not the only, or the first, or (alas) the last !!

TitoMorelli
9/13/2011, 07:11 PM
I can agree with that.

On a different track....
If Obama was the affirmative action prez (assuming for argument's sake), then Bush II (if not also Bush I & many predecessors) was also an affirmative action prez -- in a way. Bush II was the prez of that most venerable form of affirmative action, the Silver Spoon. I mean, he doesn't seem to have done anything well at his Ivy League School, where he got in through money rather than merit. His other "accomplishments" can also be tied to big money and Establishment ties. So, don't kid yourselves, you indignant and self-righteous ones, if Obama got there on something other than merit, he's damn sure not the only, or the first, or (alas) the last !!

Good remarks.

Bush's winning is probably due as much as anything to the political arrogance and tone-deafness of Albert A. Gore, Jr.

lexsooner
9/13/2011, 07:56 PM
I can agree with that.

On a different track....
If Obama was the affirmative action prez (assuming for argument's sake), then Bush II (if not also Bush I & many predecessors) was also an affirmative action prez -- in a way. Bush II was the prez of that most venerable form of affirmative action, the Silver Spoon. I mean, he doesn't seem to have done anything well at his Ivy League School, where he got in through money rather than merit. His other "accomplishments" can also be tied to big money and Establishment ties. So, don't kid yourselves, you indignant and self-righteous ones, if Obama got there on something other than merit, he's damn sure not the only, or the first, or (alas) the last !!

This ^^^^^^^ People don't vote out of guilt nor do they look to see who had better grades or job titles. They vote for the candidate they feel will be most helpful to their own interests. It's human nature. This article is remarkably lightweight for a publication like the Wall Street Journal, almost like something you would read in a website of a political pundit - absent the radical socialist Marxist statements.

TUSooner
9/14/2011, 07:59 AM
This ^^^^^^^ People don't vote out of guilt nor do they look to see who had better grades or job titles. They vote for the candidate they feel will be most helpful to their own interests. It's human nature. This article is remarkably lightweight for a publication like the Wall Street Journal, almost like something you would read in a website of a political pundit - absent the radical socialist Marxist statements.

I guess the real Rupert Murdoch has finally arrived at the WSJ. :(

EDIT: It see that most of the OP is not from the WSJ; it just quotes the WSJ. I have not seen the WSJ article.

sappstuf
9/19/2011, 08:40 AM
I don't agree that Obama has gotten anymore of a pass than any other Pres. Certainly he's been vilified by the RW and the often indistinguishable internet circus crowd at least as much as any prez I have ever heard of. (When's the last white president who's been called the Muslim Anti-Christ?) And EVERY President gets a pass from his supporters, even when he's blown the gig like O has done.
And this idea that white liberal guilt elected Obama is another fantasy mantra of the far RW who think there MUST be something fundamentally illogical about disagreeing with them. So basically I'm not really buying that much of the article.

Try again.

Chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Emanuel Cleaver


If (former President) Bill Clinton had been in the White House and had failed to address this problem(joblessness among African Americans), we probably would be marching on the White House

Being judged by your character is soooo 1963.....

CrimsonCream
9/19/2011, 05:04 PM
Trouble is, if Obama even did some of the bullsh*t he was spouting off while running for President he'd stand of chance of being reelected.

Just an arrogant, egotistical, lying, corrupt President and People are tired of him.

soonercruiser
9/19/2011, 08:43 PM
JM,
Just because the public loathed the Republicans as a whole, doesn't mean that McLame/Palin was not a better option.
At that point, much of the pubic had their "Hate" glasses on, and couldn't see that (as bad as the ticket was) the Repubican ticket was still far better for the country.
They fell for "Hope & Change".
NOT!
:chargrined:

soonercruiser
9/19/2011, 08:47 PM
To deny that the Drive-by media did not give Obama a pass shows a complete lack of seriousness TU.
Had any other candidate had that lack of leadership background and skeletons in the closet, they would not have even won a nomination. Maybe Palin and McLame should have LIED too!

The media had their rose "colored" glasses on too!
That's why they are becoming irrelevant!

soonercruiser
9/19/2011, 08:50 PM
Like Kennedy, Clinton, etc.?