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cccasooner2
9/2/2011, 11:12 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-halts-controversial-EPA-apf-1745827859.html

sappstuf
9/2/2011, 02:37 PM
I wonder if this had anything to do with the terrible jobs report today...

TitoMorelli
9/2/2011, 03:05 PM
Not a good news day - here's one on the failure of a highly touted - and government financed - renewable energy company that has gone belly up:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/solyndra-investigation-probe-white-house-role-massive-energy/story?id=14434588

pphilfran
9/2/2011, 04:08 PM
Not a good news day - here's one on the failure of a highly touted - and government financed - renewable energy company that has gone belly up:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/solyndra-investigation-probe-white-house-role-massive-energy/story?id=14434588

That is depressing...

The company manufacturers its products in its second fab, Fab 2, a new $733 million state-of-the-art robotic facility in Fremont, California which opened in September 2010. Fab 2 was built with the support of a $535 million federal loan guarantee. According to an initial public offering by the company, the combined annual production capacity of the plants was projected to be 610 megawatts by 2013. After expanding production in 2008,[3] the company announced on November 3, 2010 that it was mothballing its older plant, Fab 1, and postponing expansion of recently opened Fab 2, giving it an annual production capacity of about 300 megawatts. Market conditions were cited, with conventional solar modules manufactured in China by low-cost producers such as Suntech and Yingli offering stiff competition. [10]

On 20 March 2009 Solyndra estimated that:

The construction of this complex will employ approximately 3,000 people.
The operation of the facility will create over 1,000 jobs in the United States.
The installation of these panels will create hundreds of additional jobs in the United States.
* The commercialization of this technology is expected to then be duplicated in multiple other manufacturing facilities[11]

On 3 November 2010 Solyndra said it would lay off around 40 employees and not renew contracts for about 150 temporary workers as a result of the consolidation.[10]

On 31 August 2011 Solyndra announced it was filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, laying off 1100 employees, and shutting down all operations and manufacturing.[12]

sappstuf
9/2/2011, 04:26 PM
That is depressing...

The company manufacturers its products in its second fab, Fab 2, a new $733 million state-of-the-art robotic facility in Fremont, California which opened in September 2010. Fab 2 was built with the support of a $535 million federal loan guarantee. According to an initial public offering by the company, the combined annual production capacity of the plants was projected to be 610 megawatts by 2013. After expanding production in 2008,[3] the company announced on November 3, 2010 that it was mothballing its older plant, Fab 1, and postponing expansion of recently opened Fab 2, giving it an annual production capacity of about 300 megawatts. Market conditions were cited, with conventional solar modules manufactured in China by low-cost producers such as Suntech and Yingli offering stiff competition. [10]

On 20 March 2009 Solyndra estimated that:

The construction of this complex will employ approximately 3,000 people.
The operation of the facility will create over 1,000 jobs in the United States.
The installation of these panels will create hundreds of additional jobs in the United States.
* The commercialization of this technology is expected to then be duplicated in multiple other manufacturing facilities[11]

On 3 November 2010 Solyndra said it would lay off around 40 employees and not renew contracts for about 150 temporary workers as a result of the consolidation.[10]

On 31 August 2011 Solyndra announced it was filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, laying off 1100 employees, and shutting down all operations and manufacturing.[12]

It isn't as depressing as it is criminal.

But Obama certainly made his point... It was just the opposite of what he thought it was.


Solyndra was touted by the Obama administration as a prime example of how green technology could deliver jobs.

Now how about doing away with this foolishness and open the gulf back open to drilling while doing away with all ethanol subsides.

badger
9/2/2011, 04:26 PM
As much as I would love our air to be cleaner, this would have been killer for areas like Oklahoma this year, because not only are we just barely skating by with all of the wildfire smoke and hot weather causing smog and dirty air this year (it's a record setting summer, we're actually polluting a lot less than ever before), OKC and Tulsa areas are actually both partially (and therefore, entirely) in violation of current, non-tightened standards for ozone level, which is 0.075 parts per million.

As the standard has gotten tighter, we've gotten compliant with it each and every time, except this year. We just couldn't fight it with the hot temperatures, drought, lack of rainfall, wind, everything together, ugh. The EPA surely can't punish us for wildfire smoke like they would for industry smoke stacks, because that is what led to our exceedance in many cases: Smoke from wild fires. And the weather. Ugh.

Politically, this has to be a huge blow to Democrats. President Obama made the right decision in my opinion, but I am Republican. In Democrat eyes, he probably looks like a big ol' pander bear.

soonercruiser
9/2/2011, 11:16 PM
Don't get all drippy about it Badger.
This glimpse of sanity IS, after all, only courtesy of the bad job numbers, and the impending pounding he will take in the next election.

The EPA should be going after whomever set the wildfires, if they want to improve our air.
Or, just have the Messiah create more rain as needed.