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DCSooner
6/23/2004, 10:31 AM
Any one have a story or sighting? I am reading Hunter S. Thompsons book right now.

C&CDean
6/23/2004, 10:37 AM
Lots. Pretty nice guys all-in-all.

Ralph "Sonny" Barger still made one of my favorite quotes: (paraphrased) "Nobody ever said freedom was cheap."

I've got lots of shirts from Frisco Choppers (West coast) and Sin City Cycles (East coast) that are HA shops.

DCSooner
6/23/2004, 10:39 AM
I did a Google search, and it looks like most of the troublemakers are up in Canada.

Fugue
6/23/2004, 10:40 AM
In organized crime class we had a HA come in and talk about the 1 percenters and snuff films, some crazy shat.

dhess68
6/23/2004, 10:43 AM
one time back in the 70's(77 i think)Willie Nelson had his outdoor picnic(at the old speeday in tulsa)=keeping in mind, i was 9when this happened.

we were leaving to get to the track and ran into about 30 of them by Jack's cycle shop on Admiral....anyway
we got out at the track only to see this HUGE pile of garbage(looked to be about 20-30ft tall and 100-150ft
around.)

Some of the people sitting next to us said about half the crowd were wearing Hells Angels gear, and rowdy as hell...just trashing the place.

Then there was that thing out in Vegas with the Mongols(the rival bikers)they shot up one of the casino's.
weren't they at the Stones concert in Cali back in the late 60's-
free concert given at Altamont, a disused racetrack outside San Francisco. Poorly organised, and with on-site security provided by the Hell's Angels (at the suggestion of the Grateful Dead), the concert was a disaster, featuring running battles between fans and security which reached a head when Meredith Hunter, a young black fan who had unwisely brought a pistol (and a white girlfriend) to the show, was stabbed and beaten to death by the Angels during the band's performance of "Under My Thumb". (The concert would be documented in Albert and David Mayles' film Gimme Shelter).

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Rolling%20Stones


but keeping in mind, that they are not all bad, I met this guy over at jacks cycles back years ago we talked for some time about gangs and such,
well he told me he was there at the speedway when that happened. and that
the majority of them were from out of town(not the local chapter)him and a bunch of his buddies stayed around to clean up the place so in the event there
would be another one of these kind of concerts that they would be allowed back.

King Crimson
6/23/2004, 10:46 AM
that's a good one by HST. at that point, he was still writing books about something other than his own myth--and "gonzo" sort of meant something like a sociological, ethnographic approach to journalism--rather than outright fictions. Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 72 is also a good one. while many on this board are not likely to share HST's dislike of Nixon, there are some pretty interesting insights into the political process-particularly the charlantry of the Democratic primaries....and politics in general, and of course in an increasing media age.

Hell's Angels is a good one.

Bourbon St Sooner
6/23/2004, 10:51 AM
I've read HSTs book. That's a really great book. They were a counterculture that didn't fit well into civil society. My impression is that they were like a wild animal - people find them interesting to be around but they're extremely dangerous. Once one decides he needs to pound you the whole group has to join in. It's part of the creedo.

Bourbon St Sooner
6/23/2004, 10:55 AM
I agree with you about F&L on the Campaign Trail KC. That provides an excellent perspective into presidential politics. Also, the Great Shark Hunt has a lot of his early writings which were really good. After the mid-70s I think he started to take himself too seriously and the acid had taken a toll.

GDC
4/11/2006, 02:28 PM
I did a Google search, and it looks like most of the troublemakers are up in Canada.


http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/04/10/1528772.html

Guess there's about eight fewer Bandidos now.

walkoffsooner
4/11/2006, 02:39 PM
HA are ok. Bandido that is a different story don't mess with them.

GDC
4/11/2006, 02:46 PM
HA are ok. Bandido that is a different story don't mess with them.

Same is true of the Mongols. Here is a good book about them.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/1400060842/103-6633524-1292661

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1400060842.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

VeeJay
4/11/2006, 02:46 PM
I knew some Bandidos.

One's nickname was "Scalper" because he had locks of hair from all the ladies he'd bedded down hanging on his wall.

These people were anti-social and lived like animals.

My first wife's first husband was one. :eek:

I was OK with all of them. I think they all knew I wasn't going to be much trouble. It wasn't long before the FBI hauled all of them away for manufacturing crystal meth.

The stories could go on and on. These guys lived in the absolute worst part of town. It looked like something out of a horror movie. I swear it did. This was in the early-mid 80's, and they'd sit around and actually talk about what a great president Reagan was.

sooneron
4/11/2006, 02:51 PM
I lived two blocks from their "clubhouse" when I lived in the E Village in NYC. I used to hang out at a bar on THEIR BLOCK. I met a couple and they seemed OK. Needless to say, that block -(3rd St btw 1st and 2nd Aves) is considered one of the safest in the city! Precinct blocks included. NOTHING happens without the Angel's say so.

OUHOMER
4/11/2006, 05:51 PM
In organized crime class we had a HA come in and talk about the 1 percenters and snuff films, some crazy shat.


What does 1%'ers mean??????

85Sooner
4/11/2006, 07:27 PM
The ones I've talked to were nice enough but I wouldn't want to try and start any trouble with any of them. They are no nonsense when that happens.

sanantoniosooner
4/11/2006, 07:33 PM
http://www.monty-pythons.com/album/Episode_08/08-hells-grannies.jpg

AlbqSooner
4/11/2006, 08:00 PM
In the early '80s I was involved in a case that we needed some information from a witness who was a "former" Hell's Angel living in Arkansas. I finally located him and sat at his kitchen table explaining who I was, who I represented and what I needed to know. He said he had nothing for me. I asked to use his phone to make a long distance call to report that he had nothing to tell us and said he could place it and have the operator call back with time and charges. I agreed to pay double whatever the call came to.

When he picked up the phone I handed him the business card with the desired phone number on the back. He looked at the number for a couple of seconds and asked who I was calling. I thumbed through my notes and told him it was a guy named Sonny Berger. (An obvious misstatement) He said are you sure it isnt Barger and I told him it could be, my hand writing was pretty bad. He hung up the phone and said What do you want to know. Very cooperative after that.

Several years before that a friend and I had stopped in a roadside tavern in Western Colorado and were quaffing a few when about 15 HAs came in the door. They were nice enough, but before we could leave we had a choice of getting beaten senseless or eating most of a syrofoam ice chest. That stuff doesnt taste to bad if you wash it down with lots of beer. They laughed and let us go.

Almost forgot. That shootout that was mentioned was in Laughlin, not Las Vegas.

mrowl
4/11/2006, 08:06 PM
Several years before that a friend and I had stopped in a roadside tavern in Western Colorado and were quaffing a few when about 15 HAs came in the door. They were nice enough, but before we could leave we had a choice of getting beaten senseless or eating most of a syrofoam ice chest. That stuff doesnt taste to bad if you wash it down with lots of beer. They laughed and let us go.



:eek:

VeeJay
4/11/2006, 09:15 PM
before we could leave we had a choice of getting beaten senseless or eating most of a syrofoam ice chest. That stuff doesnt taste to bad if you wash it down with lots of beer.

This is why I like The South Oval.

usmc-sooner
4/11/2006, 09:24 PM
I knew one of Sonny Barger's kids, he was older than me and a little guy he was really nice but he was really messed up emotionally and with drugs and alcohol.

usmc-sooner
4/11/2006, 09:27 PM
ooh and I went to a bike rally in Colorado once and there was a group called the Banditos who didn't think much of HA's

usmc-sooner
4/11/2006, 10:01 PM
Plus I think the Boz busted up their gang.

HoserSooner
4/11/2006, 10:50 PM
We do have a ton of them up here, mostly in that 'other' part of Canada where they don't speak the right language.

My brother is a cop just east of Toronto, and deals with them quite often. Says that they mostly good guys, just not the kind you would want to **** off too often.

GDC
4/12/2006, 02:40 PM
Plus I think the Boz busted up their gang.

Okay, I figured out the movie you meant, Beyond The Law.

usmc-sooner
4/12/2006, 10:28 PM
Okay, I figured out the movie you meant, Beyond The Law.

was that based on the book or was that based on another story?

BigRedJed
4/12/2006, 10:39 PM
http://scoot.net/gallery/2006/04/raceforspace/Toni/small_CIMG1264.JPG

GDC
4/13/2006, 12:48 AM
was that based on the book or was that based on another story?

The movie came out in 92, way before that book.

BigRedJed
4/13/2006, 06:13 PM
http://scoot.net/gallery/2006/04/raceforspace/Toni/small_CIMG1264.JPG
Am I the only one frightened by this picture?

BlondeSoonerGirl
4/13/2006, 06:15 PM
The dude in the floppy hat looks like a bastard...

sanantoniosooner
4/13/2006, 06:15 PM
Am I the only one frightened by this picture?
check out the rest of those on that site.

There's a tramp stamp that looks like it was burned on with a magnifying glass.

BigRedJed
4/13/2006, 06:15 PM
Yeah, but he's MY bastard.

GDC
4/27/2006, 04:05 PM
I watched Charlie Sheen in Beyond The Law the other night. Interestingly, there was an actor credited as "Rhino Thunder" in it.

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
4/27/2006, 04:13 PM
http://scoot.net/gallery/2006/04/raceforspace/Toni/small_CIMG1264.JPGThose are Hell's Angels?

My uncle was an Outlaw back in the early 80s. He died 26 days after being hit by a car while he was on his motorcycle. The guy in the car was charged with vehicular manslaughter because it wasn't an accident. While they may have done all kinds of bad things, his "brothers" were nothing but kind to our family while he was in the hospital's burn unit. After he died, they paid for his funeral and his burial and his gravemarker.

Scott D
4/27/2006, 04:18 PM
Those are Hell's Angels?

My uncle was an Outlaw back in the early 80s. He died 26 days after being hit by a car while he was on his motorcycle. The guy in the car was charged with vehicular manslaughter because it wasn't an accident. While they may have done all kinds of bad things, his "brothers" were nothing but kind to our family while he was in the hospital's burn unit. After he died, they paid for his funeral and his burial and his gravemarker.

yeah i hear those scooter ridin bastards are hardasses ;)

GDC
4/27/2006, 05:12 PM
In Albuquerque I saw a Bandido fall over with his bike while casually sitting at a stop light one day.

OUHOMER
4/27/2006, 06:14 PM
What does 1%'ers mean??????

GDC
4/27/2006, 06:35 PM
What does 1%'ers mean??????


The article, a mere 115 words placed beneath the gargantuan image of an apparently drunken motorcyclist teetering atop a bobbed-and-beer-bottle-festooned Harley-Davison Knucklehead, was published in a recurring section of the magazine titled “The Week’s Events.” This section of Life magazine, which highlighted events from around the nation and the world, relied heavily on visual images rather than text to “tell the stories,” as each article in the series employs massive graphic images and precious little explanatory text. The Life story caused something of a tumult around the country (Yates), and some authors have asserted that the AMA subsequently released a press statement disclaiming involvement in the Hollister event, stating that 99% of motorcyclists are good, decent, law-abiding citizens, and that the AMA’s ranks of motorcycle clubs were not involved in the debacle (e.g., Reynolds, Thompson). However, the American Motorcyclist Association has no record of ever releasing such as statement. Tom Lindsay, the AMA’s Public Information Director, states “We [the American Motorcyclist Association] acknowledge that the term ‘one-percenter’ has long been (and likely will continue to be) attributed to the American Motorcyclist Association, but we've been unable to attribute its original use to an AMA official or published statement—so it's apocryphal.”

http://ijms.nova.edu/November2005/IJMS_Artcl.Dulaney.html

walkoffsooner
4/27/2006, 06:36 PM
What does 1%'ers mean??????
They kill 1% of the people they meet.The 50%'ers are bad asses

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
4/27/2006, 09:42 PM
From the OUtlaws website: As we all know the term was first used in the 60’s to describe some of the people that attended the motorcycle events back then. The AMA (American Motorcycle Association) stated that 99% of the people at their events were god fearing and family oriented. The other 1%er were hard riding, hard partying, non mainstream type people. Thus the term 1%er was born. Some of the early bikers embraced the term and decided to call themselves 1%ers.
It did not mean that they were law breakers or low life individuals. They were simply men that rode their motorcycles seven days a week in all kinds of weather, liked to drink and raise a little hell. Sometime during the 80’s law enforcement changed the meaning of the 1%er to what they wanted it to represent. It didn’t matter that their meaning was incorrect, they just spoon fed it to the general public and the courts as they had so many other things.
The Outlaws Motorcycle Club is rich in history and tradition. One of those traditions is the wearing of a 1%er patch on our vests and referring to ourselves as a 1%er club. The 1%er definition as we see it is one that explains our commitment to Biking and Brotherhood. We ride our motorcycles every day rain or shine. We ride thousands of miles each year with our Brothers to attend parties, social events, funerals and just plain spending time together. We work, have families and do all the things that our neighbors do. In addition to that we belong to a Brotherhood that we are able to combine with our day to day lives.
To say that 1%er’s are criminals or people of a lesser moral code than the rest of society is a tainted opinion. The Outlaws Motorcycle Club is not a criminal organization. It is a motorcycle club. We have learned from the mistakes in our past and have worked quite hard to make our club a leader in the efforts of many clubs and bikers to insure that the 1%er lifestyle will continue to grow and stay a part of tradition for the coming generations of those bikers that have the same commitment to Biking and Brotherhood that the past and present 1%er’s have left to them.
We may not live by the rules of society, but we do live by it’s laws.

GDC
5/14/2006, 07:11 PM
http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/8b/26/30_1.JPG

Good book, most of it takes place in the Tulsa area.

HoserSooner
5/15/2006, 12:41 AM
http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/8b/26/30_1.JPG

Good book, most of it takes place in the Tulsa area.

He's been getting a lot of press up here lately in regards to the group of Bandito's that were killed in southern Ontario last month.

GDC
5/15/2006, 11:41 AM
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0340898305.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Here's another I'm just finishing up. This one is from law enforcement's perpective.

BigRedJed
5/15/2006, 12:00 PM
Plus I think the Boz busted up their gang.
The Boz tried to bust up our gang one time. We stepped on his face with our Doc Martens and Chuck Taylors.