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pphilfran
8/3/2011, 11:27 AM
I little better than I thought...though, still not good....

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pphilfran
8/3/2011, 11:35 AM
July - Year on Year

GM up 7.7%
Ford up 8.7
Chrysler up 20.1
Toyota down 22.7
Honda down 28.4
Nissan up 2.7
VW up 20.8
Mazda flat
Subaru down 9.4
Hyundai up 10%
Kia up 28.5
Bimmer up 11.5
M Benz up 13.2
Porsche up 2.4
Ferrari down 31% (97 vs 141 cars)
Maserati up 27.6% (199 vs 156)

OULenexaman
8/3/2011, 11:35 AM
That cash for clunkers was a great program....got rid of 95% of all those Obama bumper stickers on the road.

texaspokieokie
8/3/2011, 11:37 AM
That cash for clunkers was a great program....got rid of 95% of all those Obama bumper stickers on the road.

yep, & some good cars.

sappstuf
8/3/2011, 12:17 PM
GM stock at a new low, $26.81.

NormanPride
8/3/2011, 12:23 PM
When should you buy GM because it's too low to pass up?

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
8/3/2011, 12:26 PM
When should you buy GM because it's too low to pass up?

Personally, I'd refrain from buying ANY US automaker after what the government did to bail them out.

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 12:27 PM
When should you buy GM because it's too low to pass up?

Here is their chart...you tell me...

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GM+Interactive#chart2:symbol=gm;range=1y ;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlc values=0;logscale=on

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 12:29 PM
Personally, I'd refrain from buying ANY US automaker after what the government did to bail them out.

Ford?

sappstuf
8/3/2011, 12:31 PM
Here is their chart...you tell me...

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GM+Interactive#chart2:symbol=gm;range=1y ;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlc values=0;logscale=on

I remember Gaffer saying he would buy lots of GM at the IPO... I wonder if he really did.

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 12:32 PM
I remember Gaffer saying he would buy lots of GM at the IPO... I wonder if he really did.

I hope so....:D

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 12:32 PM
I miss Gaffer...even Sybarite...

sappstuf
8/3/2011, 12:37 PM
I miss Gaffer...even Sybarite...

I don't know if "miss" is the proper word... I certainly rumbled with them quite a bit for awhile.

TitoMorelli
8/3/2011, 12:38 PM
I miss Gaffer...even Sybarite...

You're one sick. sick puppy.;)

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 12:39 PM
Whips and chains....I like em....

jkm, the stolen pifwafwi
8/3/2011, 12:50 PM
Ford?

Especially not Ford. They have a TON of debt. They also have all of the pensions/medical care problems that GM/Chrysler no longer have. Right now, their sales have been boosted by the fact that they didn't take a bailout. However, the American public have incredibly short memories and in 2-3 years I'm not sure they'll be able to keep their sales gains on GM/Chrysler.

pphilfran
8/3/2011, 01:11 PM
Especially not Ford. They have a TON of debt. They also have all of the pensions/medical care problems that GM/Chrysler no longer have. Right now, their sales have been boosted by the fact that they didn't take a bailout. However, the American public have incredibly short memories and in 2-3 years I'm not sure they'll be able to keep their sales gains on GM/Chrysler.

Good answer...

soonercruiser
8/3/2011, 01:13 PM
I believe that I heard a big part of Chryslers bump, was the new Fiat 500 wart.
:O

tommieharris91
8/3/2011, 01:30 PM
Lagging indicator. I expect a worse report next month.

soonercruiser
8/3/2011, 01:58 PM
You're one sick. sick puppy.;)

Remember, Phil had the catapult to throw sh** back at him!
:D