Texas WR To Skip 2011 Season

[sooner59]

Bailing on Mack to focus on track instead. Can't say that I blame him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6731154


AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas wide receiver Marquise Goodwin will skip the 2011 season to concentrate on track after qualifying for the world championships in the long jump.

Goodwin also plans to train for the 2012 Olympics in London. He will redshirt during the 2011 football season with plans to return in 2012 as a junior in eligibility.

Goodwin won the long jump at the U.S. championships with a personal-best mark of 27 feet, 4 inches to qualify for the world championships.

Goodwin has caught 61 passes for 603 yards and two touchdowns for Texas over the past two seasons.

[yankee]

Is that their punt/kick return specialist? Or am I thinking of Monroe?

[sooner59]

That's Monroe. But Goodwin played quite a bit if I remember. But when you go 5-7, maybe some turnover is a good thing.

[Curly Bill]

Unless the whorns find a QB I don't care who they have playing WR.

[Illuminati]

Unless the whorns find a QB I don't care who they have playing WR.

This

[SoonerMom2]

Unless the whorns find a QB I don't care who they have playing WR.

Exactly!

[mavsfan31]

^^What they said.

Good for this kid though, can't blame him. If I had a shot at the olympics, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

[VA Sooner]

Wasn't Goodwin their second best receiver on the team?

[BoulderSooner79]

Not totally unexpected - good for him if he can make the Olympic team.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Wasn't Goodwin their second best receiver on the team?

Yeah, the two in front of him graduated. Mike Davis was the one ahead of him.

[Soonermagik]

They just lost another game lol.

[TahoeSOONER]

Beware of Gilbert, just sayin. I know I'm in the minority here but the kid had no direction and the O Line was pathetic. It doesn't hurt to respect but I see a kid who can sling it with time.

[101sooner]

Beware of Gilbert, just sayin. I know I'm in the minority here but the kid had no direction and the O Line was pathetic. It doesn't hurt to respect but I see a kid who can sling it with time.


I completely agree. Gilbert's problem was Mack Brown and Greg Davis. It was just a complete coaching failure. They spent all their precious little off-season time and Fall practice time installing a power running game that failed, then tried to take a young QB and make him run a passing offense after the season started.

Sure he threw a ton of interceptions, but he had ZERO chemistry with his receivers and very little fundamental knowledge of the passing game that he was asked to run after the season was already underway. He was learning stuff that should have been taught in the Spring the day before a conference football game. Of course he was gonna make bad decisions, he had no clue because his coaching staff completely failed.

Honestly, it reminded me of a John Blake coaching job.

[Curly Bill]

I completely agree. Gilbert's problem was Mack Brown and Greg Davis. It was just a complete coaching failure. They spent all their precious little off-season time and Fall practice time installing a power running game that failed, then tried to take a young QB and make him run a passing offense after the season started.

Sure he threw a ton of interceptions, but he had ZERO chemistry with his receivers and very little fundamental knowledge of the passing game that he was asked to run after the season was already underway. He was learning stuff that should have been taught in the Spring the day before a conference football game. Of course he was gonna make bad decisions, he had no clue because his coaching staff completely failed.

Honestly, it reminded me of a John Blake coaching job.


Good grief. Hyperbole much?

[goingoneight]

I think that's a VERY accurate description of the mess that was Texas 2010. It was one cluster**** of a situation. Changing schemes every week promising each week, they were gonna try so much harder and a pathetic effort was the result. Mack "hugs and handshakes" Brown acted a LOT like Boo in his final year last year. He still has that signature :mack: thing going for him though. Thinks everything will take care of itself so long as he apologizes to his fanbase and starts having more fun. :D

[101sooner]

Good grief. Hyperbole much?


5-7? Blake went 3-8, 4-7 and 5-6 with Garry Gibbs and Schnellenberger recruits. That's real fricking similar to 5-7. Texas had several top-10 'cruiting classes in a row and were a year removed from playing in a BCS Championship game.

Yes, it was a Blake type coaching failure.

[BoulderSooner79]

Beware of Gilbert, just sayin. I know I'm in the minority here but the kid had no direction and the O Line was pathetic. It doesn't hurt to respect but I see a kid who can sling it with time.

We made Gilbert look like a Heisman contender in the 2nd half of our game. D'oh!

[oudavid1]

This guy is the reason Texas beat Oklahoma in 2009. Good for us.

[goingoneight]

He may not be a great QB, but VERY few would have stood a chance with last year's mess at UT. Even some of OUr own guys would have been awful in those circumstances (I'm counting junior Nate Hybl, Freshman Landry Jones, definitely freshman Rhett Bomar and Paul Thompson).
He's not a Colt or Vince guy with that ability to kinda wing it from time to time. Put him behind a good OL where he's not scrambling (literally and mentally) all the time and give him the WR corps Colt and Vince had and you're probably looking at an average if not decent QB. Also, it can't be missed that Texas had no identity at all last year, either. No run game like they supposedly worked all off-season for, not emerging playmakers, nada. I'm not at all saying Gilbert is going to ever make it to New York. I am saying he was only as bad as the rest of that bad Texas team. You don't lose seven games and put it all on the QB.

[oudavid1]

He may not be a great QB, but VERY few would have stood a chance with last year's mess at UT. Even some of OUr own guys would have been awful in those circumstances (I'm counting junior Nate Hybl, Freshman Landry Jones, definitely freshman Rhett Bomar and Paul Thompson).
He's not a Colt or Vince guy with that ability to kinda wing it from time to time. Put him behind a good OL where he's not scrambling (literally and mentally) all the time and give him the WR corps Colt and Vince had and you're probably looking at an average if not decent QB. Also, it can't be missed that Texas had no identity at all last year, either. No run game like they supposedly worked all off-season for, not emerging playmakers, nada. I'm not at all saying Gilbert is going to ever make it to New York. I am saying he was only as bad as the rest of that bad Texas team. You don't lose seven games and put it all on the QB.

If you watch Gilbert in the Texas Spring Game, he still makes freshman mistakes. Its not him, ITS THE Coaching!!!!

[batonrougesooner]

I can't think of a better way to train for track than chasing down over thrown footballs all year.

I think this is a mistake.

[MojoRisen]

He may not be a great QB, but VERY few would have stood a chance with last year's mess at UT. Even some of OUr own guys would have been awful in those circumstances (I'm counting junior Nate Hybl, Freshman Landry Jones, definitely freshman Rhett Bomar and Paul Thompson).
He's not a Colt or Vince guy with that ability to kinda wing it from time to time. Put him behind a good OL where he's not scrambling (literally and mentally) all the time and give him the WR corps Colt and Vince had and you're probably looking at an average if not decent QB. Also, it can't be missed that Texas had no identity at all last year, either. No run game like they supposedly worked all off-season for, not emerging playmakers, nada. I'm not at all saying Gilbert is going to ever make it to New York. I am saying he was only as bad as the rest of that bad Texas team. You don't lose seven games and put it all on the QB.

Loose to UCLA and Iowa St. and then beat Nebraska in Lincoln - bad coaching for sure.

[Jacie]

Yeah, the two in front of him graduated. Mike Davis was the one ahead of him.

Davis is one of their returning starters. The other projected starting WR is Malcolm Williams so Goodwin was an off-the-bench player. He was their fifth leading receiver last year, not the second.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Davis is one of their returning starters. The other projected starting WR is Malcolm Williams so Goodwin was an off-the-bench player. He was their fifth leading receiver last year, not the second.

I know, but I was jsut saying that he was the second receiver from last year. I was saying that he was the second WR, so I did not include RBs.

[FaninAma]

Beware of Gilbert, just sayin. I know I'm in the minority here but the kid had no direction and the O Line was pathetic. It doesn't hurt to respect but I see a kid who can sling it with time.

I don't think you can blame Gilbert's poor performance all on the OL. The horn OL allowed 18 sacks all season(3 fewer than OU's) and the horns had a higher average rush per carry than OU.

Their problems on O had a lot to do with turnovers by the QB. That goes directly to decision making. We'll see if the new coaching staff has corrected the problem.

[goingoneight]

Texas had receivers last year? I thought their quarterback just took the field to throw interceptions.

[OUInformant]

Goodwin was one of their biggest offensive weapons.

They have to face the fact that they are going to have some problems this year.

[Jacie]

Losing veteran players and having to start freshman, true or redshirt, in their place is not neccessarily a bad thing coming off a 5-7 season . . .

[SoonerFah]

It hurts UT but it isn't the end of the world. He is the best deep threat they have, but at the same time their QB hasn't been the best at throwing it deep, so it's not really a big loss. Besides that, Mike Davis was the best receiver they had last year, and that was as a freshman.

[budbarrybob]

No matter how you slice it... Good news :D

[MojoRisen]

Darius white could emerge. In 09 I thought Goodwin was going to be a star.

[FaninAma]

Since the entire Texas team skipped the entire 2010 season I think Goodwin just wanted to extend his sabbatical to 2 years.

[OUInformant]

Goodwin was a good player for them, with all of his speed and athleticism. He could've given us some trouble this year.

I hear people say, "well, losing a guy off a 5-7 team may not be so bad", but, IMO, he was a guy that you didn't want to lose. With their QB situation, he would've been quite helpful to them. Now, had Gilbert quit the team, I would agree with the above statement as he was average, at best, a year ago.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Texas is at least a year away from having any significant offensive strength. I'd be shocked if they improve drastically on that side of the ball this year. A Adrian Peterson type freshman RB is their only hope this upcoming season.

[SoonerAtKU]

Goodwin is one of the reasons Greg Davis called so many screen passes. He always hoped to get a key block and spring a track athlete in space. It always seemed to me that he overthought everything, trying to catch OU off guard by throwing that screen to Roy Williams or Limas Sweed, hoping they'd be played deep. Meanwhile, he's throwing screens to his deep threats and bombing away at the 5'10" guy with elusive speed.

[Herr Scholz]

Goodwin was one of their biggest offensive weapons.

They have to face the fact that they are going to have some problems this year.

Goodwin had 300 yards receiving last year and 2 career TDs. Very questionable hands. He's replaceable. Monroe is the kickoff specialist now, not him. Not the loss you guys are trying to paint it as. I hope he wins a medal at the olympics. Would be very cool.

WR talent and depth is not our problem on offense, it's QB and O line.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Whatever happened to Dan Buckner?

[Herr Scholz]

Whatever happened to Dan Buckner?

He got a little rapey with his A&M girlfriend and got booted from the team. He'll be starring at Arizona this year. He and Greg Timmons (recently transferring) were big busts for us.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Ouch... Somehow I missed that about Buckner. Do you think Darius White will be ready to step up this year?

[Herr Scholz]

Yes, White will play well this year (again, assuming GG can get him the ball). Our WR rotation will probably be: Mike Davis, Darius White, Malcolm Williams (H back), Desean Hales (slot), John Harris, Chris Jones (slot) and Fr. Jaxon Shipley.

Still trying to find a pass catching TE. Blaine Irby's back but nobody expects him to ever be the same after his horrific knee injury years ago. Dominique Jones was the top guy but looks like he's about to flunk out (not practicing). Barrett Matthews, DJ Grant and Fr. MJ McFarland are in the mix.

[OUInformant]

Goodwin had 300 yards receiving last year and 2 career TDs. Very questionable hands. He's replaceable. Monroe is the kickoff specialist now, not him. Not the loss you guys are trying to paint it as. I hope he wins a medal at the olympics. Would be very cool.

WR talent and depth is not our problem on offense, it's QB and O line.

I watched him play, and feel that he could've been a weapon and a great asset, especially against us. The OU-Texas game tends to bring out the best in both teams. When you lose some experience and talent, it always hurts. As an OU fan, I'm honestly glad we don't have to defend his speed now.

Does it mean that you no longer have any wideouts at Texas or won't have a decent passing game? No. But still, you're, at least, a little bit worse off now. If your QB and OL are questionable, then having him available for screens would've been nice.

I say the same thing for us regarding Demarco Murray. He brought a lot of versatility to our offense, running and catching. If we see improvements in the running game, they'll likely come because of improvements in our OL and TEs. Also, Roy Finch is a smaller back, which may work well for us in the same way that Quentin Griffin did. As far as catching passes out of the backfield, I doubt we have anybody close to Demarco in terms of pass-catching abilities.

[Herr Scholz]

But still, you're, at least, a little bit worse off now. If your QB and OL are questionable, then having him available for screens would've been nice.

I disagree. Sometimes it's addition by subtraction. Having speed doesn't make a great WR (especially if it's someone who is MIA every single offseason running track - never really on the same page with the QB in terms of timing). We have plenty of players who can handle screens and wheel routes. Hopefully this means more touches for DJ Monroe who is more electric (see our game last year). Desean Hales will turn some heads this season too. I'd also much rather have Mike Davis and Darius White getting more passes.

[PalmBeachSooner]

Goodwin has SEC Speed.

[Herr Scholz]

Sure but he's not as fast as Teddy Lehman.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Goodwin has SEC Speed.


Sure but he's not as fast as Teddy Lehman.

Ohhh, somebody got burned just now... I won't say who though. :D ;)

[sappstuf]

I disagree. Sometimes it's addition by subtraction. Having speed doesn't make a great WR (especially if it's someone who is MIA every single offseason running track - never really on the same page with the QB in terms of timing). We have plenty of players who can handle screens and wheel routes. Hopefully this means more touches for DJ Monroe who is more electric (see our game last year). Desean Hales will turn some heads this season too. I'd also much rather have Mike Davis and Darius White getting more passes.

As long as you don't subtract your head coach...

[Herr Scholz]

As long as you don't subtract your head coach...

He has the same number of national titles and BCS wins as your head coach. Just sayin. We'll keep Mack as long as he'll stay.

[sappstuf]

He has the same number of national titles and BCS wins as your head coach. Just sayin. We'll keep Mack as long as he'll stay.

What about Conference Championships?

[Sooner_Tuf]

Goodwin had 300 yards receiving last year and 2 career TDs. Very questionable hands. He's replaceable. Monroe is the kickoff specialist now, not him. Not the loss you guys are trying to paint it as. I hope he wins a medal at the olympics. Would be very cool.

WR talent and depth is not our problem on offense, it's QB and O line.

So he was basically half your offense last year.

[Sooner_Tuf]

He has the same number of national titles and BCS wins as your head coach. Just sayin. We'll keep Mack as long as he'll stay.

Of course you will, it's not like anyone else is trying to hire him.

[OUInformant]

I think Coach Brown is an excellent coach, but I wouldn't put him above or even on par with Coach Stoops.

In addition to the major advantage in conference championships and the head-to-head record, Stoops has played in 4 BCS title games also to Brown's 2.

Also, OU has had two Heisman winners and two years where we had the runner-up for the Heisman (2000 & 2004) since Stoops has been at OU. Mack had one Heisman winner in Ricky Williams ('98), though he's also had two runner-ups in VY and Colt McCoy. Not a huge advantage here though.

[Herr Scholz]

What about Conference Championships?

Stoops has obviously owned the conference. I'm just saying it's even in BCS games and national title games even though OU has had more bites at the apple. That's just in defense of people saying they hope Mack stays forever. It rings hollow.

I think they're both top notch personally.

[Herr Scholz]

So he was basically half your offense last year.

We outgained OU 373 to 360 last year. Our 2 turnovers to your 0 told the tale. And our dumb defensive play that kept your drives alive.

[goingoneight]

I think what told the tale of last year's game was that OU kept it closer than it should have been. But, then again... you could say that for Utah State, Air Force, Cincinnati, Missouri, aTm and the first quarter of the BIG 12 CCG. OU was *close* to being a great team all year long until the final stretch when they bucked up. The 11-2 Sooners should have demolished the 5-7 whorns 65-13 style. But oh, well...

[Jacie]

We outgained OU 373 to 360 last year. Our 2 turnovers to your 0 told the tale. And our dumb defensive play that kept your drives alive.

It was all that dumb defensive coordinator's fault I bet . . .

[Herr Scholz]

No, just dumb penalties on our part that kept all but one of your scoring drives alive. Dumb play on our part. Our fault, no excuse. We pick up Landry's fumble at the end and it's even.

[SoonerofAlabama]

No, just dumb penalties on our part that kept all but one of your scoring drives alive. Dumb play on our part. Our fault, no excuse. We pick up Landry's fumble at the end and it's even.

I don't think you can make that argument about if you had picked up the fumble. You would have been behind the 10 yard line. There was about a minute left. And although Texas was doing better in the second half, their offense was still a guess as to what would happen. Plus you were down by eight so you would have had to first score the TD and then score on the two-point-conversion. That would just be the tie. Then there would be overtime. Where your offense would need to probably score a touchdown to win since we would at least have a field goal. Unlikely, in my opinion.

[Herr Scholz]

I don't think you can make that argument about if you had picked up the fumble.
If we pick up that fumble and run it in, you're correct, we would've had to make a 2-pointer to tie. Not a gimme for sure but if we did, we would've had the mo. You can't deny that. OU fans were freaking out during that fumble.

[tcrb]

If we pick up that fumble and run it in, you're correct, we would've had to make a 2-pointer to tie. Not a gimme for sure but if we did, we would've had the mo. You can't deny that. OU fans were freaking out during that fumble.

And if my aunt had balls......

just sayin' ;)

[Herr Scholz]

It can be close. Just like Colt making that shoestring tackle after his pick in '09. If he doesn't, the Sooners win.

[BoulderSooner79]

If we pick up that fumble and run it in, you're correct, we would've had to make a 2-pointer to tie. Not a gimme for sure but if we did, we would've had the mo. You can't deny that. OU fans were freaking out during that fumble.

That wasn't freaking out - that was wild jocularity knowing that you guys were freaking out. I heard one horn fan demand to know why the lord had forsaken him when that ball rolled out of bounds. Another proclaimed that there is no god after the fumbled punt.

[Herr Scholz]

Bad few minutes to be sure.

[Sooner_Tuf]

We outgained OU 373 to 360 last year. Our 2 turnovers to your 0 told the tale. And our dumb defensive play that kept your drives alive.

The scoreboard told the tale. Just like it always does. Moral Victories are for Ags, and Horns too it seems.

You might be able to convince yourself but you won't be able to convince any lucid individual that you just finished the most dominate 5-7 season in history.

[Herr Scholz]

Dominant

[47straight]

Dominant

Where I have I heard horns say that before?



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Oh yeah.


P.S. Brock Edwards. Don't think that issue is going away anytime soon.

[TXHornsFan]

Bailing on Mack to focus on track instead. Can't say that I blame him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6731154

Goodwin came to Texas primarily as a track athlete, and on track scholarship. He became a football scholarship only after he showed enough ability (mostly speed) to force his way onto the field. He holds the national high school long jump record, finished first in the Junior Worlds a couple of years ago, and just won the U.S. national long jump. He has been on the Olympic long path since high school. The World Championships are in Sept., and the Olympics are in 2012. This is no surprise.

[sooner59]

Hence, why I don't blame him.