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Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 10:16 AM
GRDA Issues Advisory: Stay Out Of Grand Lake Waters

The 4th of July holiday weekend is underway. This means BBQ's, Fireworks and for some a trip to their favorite body of water for some relaxing time away.

Those plans could change for a few though.

Friday morning the Grand River Dam Authority (GRDA) Board of Directors has issued an advisory for those planning on spending time in Grand Lake waters. Stay Out!

Just hours before an emergency meeting is set to take place in Tulsa, GRDA Corporate Communications Director Justin Alberty issued the following statement on the state of the recently discovered Blue Green Algae (BGA), " We strongly discourage any body contact with the water at this point," said Alberty. "That means no swimming or any other activities that would bring you into contact with lake water."

The reason behind this advisory is due to the rapidly changing conditions of the BGA levels and areas in the lake, added Alberty.

Earlier this week, BGA was found in several locations of Grand Lake. Days later and after closer monitoring, it now appears the algae could be in all the major coves and areas of the main lake

"Test results from late yesterday (Thursday) afternoon showed BGA toxicity at higher levels than before, and this is a situation that continues to develop rapidly. We strongly discourage anyone from getting into the lake at this point."

BGA are microscopic organisms that are naturally present in lakes and streams, usually in low numbers.

However, the algae can become abundant in shallow, warm water that receives heavy sunlight.

While most BGA are not toxic, toxins can be produced in some algae blooms.

That is what has occurred on Grand Lake and continues to develop.

"Both the GRDA Ecosystems Department and the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality have monitored this issue for several days, and its safe to say that it has rapidly progressed, even in the last 24 hours," said Alberty.

The GRDA Board of Directors will be briefed on the lake conditions during the special meeting, at 1:30 PM Friday afternoon, in Tulsa.

We will have a news crew at the meeting and bring you the latest here at ktul.com and today starting at 4pm on NewsChannel 8.


http://www.ktul.com/story/15011963/grda


Senator Inhofe is recovering from an upper respitory infection he obtained after swimming in Grand Lake on Sunday...which is currently experiencing High levels of Blue Green Algae.

The GRDA will hold an emergency meeting at 1:30 to discuss shutting down the entire lake and all activities...Fireworks etc for this weekend.

:eek:

Mongo
7/1/2011, 10:17 AM
Fraggle needs to quit posting and get on that **** ASAP

KABOOKIE
7/1/2011, 10:18 AM
WTF is whet? I'm there the second week of August.

okie52
7/1/2011, 10:18 AM
This will be shown to be caused by Hydraulic Fracking.

GKeeper316
7/1/2011, 10:19 AM
blue green algae cost my dad his flight status in the air force. its bad ****. stay away from it.

The
7/1/2011, 10:19 AM
This will be shown to be caused by Hydraulic Fracking.

Illegal aliens.

OUMallen
7/1/2011, 10:20 AM
this should go over well.

The
7/1/2011, 10:20 AM
They should just pour some bleach on it.

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 10:22 AM
This will be shown to be caused by Hydraulic Fracking.

**** YOU, Outland Trophy!!!

okie52
7/1/2011, 10:22 AM
Illegal aliens.

Ooops, you are right. They definitely trump fracking.

tommieharris91
7/1/2011, 10:23 AM
Illegal aliens.

My money is on the gay gene.

The
7/1/2011, 10:24 AM
My money is on the gay gene.

Gay Illegal Aliens that are fracking.

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 10:27 AM
Fraggle needs to quit posting and get on that **** ASAP

This is what happens when you pour tons of chicken **** and fertilizer into the water. :mad:

It has less really to do with shallow sunlit waters. Basically we havent had any rain this year and so it has managed to get a competitive advantage because nutrients are more concentrated. They can tolerate higher sunlight than most species, but the real problem is the excessive nutrient loading in the lake. Etc, etc, etc...

It would be too expensive to get rid of if it is in every major cove of the lake. Its also not called BGA (that is ****ing stupid). Its called cyanobacteria. And there are lots of different species. You would have to treat every thing with some sort of algicide that like copper sulfate, which can be super toxic to everything else too, not just the algae. On top of that its ****ing expensive!

And yes cyanobacteria blooms can be highly toxic and can kill you. There are usually a couple of reports every year about someone's dog dying after swimming in water with cyanobacteria. Sounds like it might be Microcystis.

Mongo
7/1/2011, 10:29 AM
Fraggle needs to quit posting and get on that **** ASAP


This is what happens when you pour tons of chicken **** and fertilizer into the water. :mad:

It has less really to do with shallow sunlit waters. Basically we havent had any rain this year and so it has managed to get a competitive advantage because nutrients are more concentrated. They can tolerate higher sunlight than most species, but the real problem is the excessive nutrient loading in the lake. Etc, etc, etc...

It would be too expensive to get rid of if it is in every major cove of the lake. Its also not called BGA (that is ****ing stupid). Its called cyanobacteria. And there are lots of different species. You would have to treat every thing with some sort of algicide that like copper sulfate, which can be super toxic to everything else too, not just the algae. On top of that its ****ing expensive!

And yes cyanobacteria blooms can be highly toxic and can kill you. There are usually a couple of reports every year about someone's dog dying after swimming in water with cyanobacteria. Sounds like it might be Microcystis.

I said quit posting and go clean that **** up


:D

SpankyNek
7/1/2011, 10:29 AM
Gay Illegal Aliens that are fracking.

And ignorantly attempting to "breed" in the waters of the Shangrila Marina.

Stupid Gay Illegal Aliens....YOU CAN"T MAKE THE BABIES.

The
7/1/2011, 10:30 AM
This is what happens when you pour tons of chicken **** and fertilizer into the water. :mad:




So, it's the GODDAMN FARMERS!!!

Get a rope.

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 10:30 AM
So it's not a good idea to jump off the cliffs at Dripping Springs?

JohnnyMack
7/1/2011, 10:31 AM
blah, blah, blah, blahblahblah, blah, blah, blahblah, blah, blah

Nobody gets to look at titties at Dripping Springs.

The end.


FTFY

OULenexaman
7/1/2011, 10:31 AM
I have no idea what you said..

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 10:31 AM
I said quit posting and go clean that **** up


:D

Y'all should just come to Texoma instead. :D

Mongo
7/1/2011, 10:33 AM
So, it's the GODDAMN FARMERS!!!

Get a rope.

no, it is a bunch of chickens ****ting in the lake.

or one giant chicken

KABOOKIE
7/1/2011, 10:36 AM
http://s.petco.com/assets/product_images/7/751906002871C.jpg

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 10:38 AM
no, it is a bunch of chickens ****ting in the lake.

or one giant chicken

Its both.

Mjcpr
7/1/2011, 10:39 AM
Will this hurt any of the Grand Lake business owners?

MsProudSooner
7/1/2011, 10:44 AM
A friend of mine lives on Grand Lake. Last month, she said that the lake was still a mess from the storms they had up there earlier in the spring. Tons of debris in the lake and lots of docks damaged. Some kind of boat that is has a crane on it and is used to build and repair docks wasl docked in the cove where she lives. It sank in the storm. Apparently, it was the only such boat on Grand Lake.

tommieharris91
7/1/2011, 10:44 AM
And ignorantly attempting to "breed" in the waters of the Shangrila Marina.

Stupid Gay Illegal Aliens....YOU CAN"T MAKE THE BABIES.

But when the babies are made, they need to have them, because abortion sucks.

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 11:01 AM
The big storms may not have helped the situation. By disturbing the thermocline they may have allowed some of the nutrients that get sequestered there in the anoxic zone during stratification. These would have skewed the Nitrogen: Phosphorus ratios even more in the bluegreen algae's favor because this type of nutrient release typically releases phosphorus that has built up in the sediments over the years.

Thaumaturge
7/1/2011, 11:05 AM
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/swampthing3.jpg

The
7/1/2011, 11:07 AM
Who will stand and fight this evil?

okie52
7/1/2011, 11:09 AM
The big storms may not have helped the situation. By disturbing the thermocline they may have allowed some of the nutrients that get sequestered there in the anoxic zone during stratification. These would have skewed the Nitrogen:Phosphorus ratios even more in the bluegreen algae's favor because this type of nutrient release typically releases phosphorus that has built up in the sediments over the years.

So is this the same thing that was killing people who swam in stagnant small ponds over the last few years?

sooner_born_1960
7/1/2011, 11:12 AM
The big storms may not have helped the situation. By disturbing the thermocline they may have allowed some of the nutrients that get sequestered there in the anoxic zone during stratification. These would have skewed the Nitrogen:Phosphorus ratios even more in the bluegreen algae's favor because this type of nutrient release typically releases phosphorus that has built up in the sediments over the years.
I thought we weren't supposed to call it bluegreen algae.

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 11:21 AM
So is this the same thing that was killing people who swam in stagnant small ponds over the last few years?

Definitely probably. Its easier for cyanobacteria to bloom in small ponds because they become eutrophic (really high nutrient loading) so easily.

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 11:21 AM
I thought we weren't supposed to call it bluegreen algae.

You arent supposed to call it BGA. That is just stupid and dumb and I have never seen it called that before in my life.

okie52
7/1/2011, 11:22 AM
Definitely probably. Its easier for cyanobacteria to bloom in small ponds because they become eutrophic (really high nutrient loading) so easily.

I wouldn't have thought a lake as big as Grand Lake would have been susceptible to this.

soonerboomer93
7/1/2011, 11:24 AM
Its both.

mongo, quit ****ting in the lake then

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:27 AM
From Lake to Pond in 2 hours....

The Cheap Lake Front Property For Sale?

http://plan.lcbp.org/assets/images/chapters/5/BGA-monitoring.jpg

Fraggle145
7/1/2011, 11:27 AM
I wouldn't have thought a lake as big as Grand Lake would have been susceptible to this.

It probably wasnt the whole lake to begin with. It was probably all of the coves and inlets. That is what happens in Texoma. Then as the water with the cyanobacteria in the inlets moves downstream (since reservoirs do have flow in them form the rivers they dam) and out of the inlets it gets into the reservoir proper.

Mongo
7/1/2011, 11:31 AM
mongo, quit ****ting in the lake then

have you ever **** in a lake? nothing like a water birth. then the panic by your buddies of when and where it will surface

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:31 AM
Can BPA make guys sexual misfits? What scary new study says

(CBS) Does exposure to bisphenol A (BPA) make guys less sexy to gals?

An ominous new study shows that males exposed to the controversial chemical might look normal but are "demasculinized" in ways that make them less attractive to females.

The study, published online in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, was performed not on humans but on mice. Yet scientists say their findings suggest that BPA might demasculinize human males as well, possibly resulting in "decreased reproductive fitness."

Or, as a plainspoken non-scientist might say, BPA could transform seemingly normal guys into girly men who find it hard to attract a mate.

"The BPA-exposed deer mice in our study look normal; there is nothing obviously wrong with them," study author Dr. Cheryl Rosenfeld, associate professor of biomedical sciences at the University of Missouri College of Veterinary Medicine, said in a written statement. "Yet, they are clearly different. Females do not want to mate with BPA-exposed male deer mice, and BPA-exposed males perform worse on spatial navigation tasks that assess their ability to find female partners in the wild."

Just what is BPA? It's a chemical that's found in some hard plastics and in the linings of metal food and beverage cans. A 2008 review by the FDA found that traces of BPA in foods posed no health risk, but more recent studies linking BPA to cancer, heart disease, and other serious ailments have raised concern.

In the study, female deer mice were fed BPA-containing diets before breeding and until their pups were weaned, about 25 days after birth. The male pups were put on a BPA-free diet and then given a maze challenge upon reaching sexual maturity.

What happened? Turned out the mice born to moms fed BPA were lousy at finding their way in the maze. What's more, they were less desirable to female mice, as shown by the amount of time the gals spent sniffing them nose-to-nose.

Dr. Rosenfeld says her study "sets the stage for BPA researchers to examine how BPA might differentially impact the behavioral and cognitive patterns of boys versus girls," adding that scientists who have been trying to link BPA to chromosomal abnormalities might be failing to notice that the chemical has subtle effects on behavior.

The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences has more on bisphenol A.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20075390-10391704.html

okie52
7/1/2011, 11:32 AM
It probably wasnt the whole lake to begin with. It was probably all of the coves and inlets. That is what happens in Texoma. Then as the water with the cyanobacteria in the inlets moves downstream (since reservoirs do have flow in them form the rivers they dam) and out of the inlets it gets into the reservoir proper.


Comforting to think that we always tie up with other boats in the coves at Grand to keep away from all of the chop.

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:36 AM
Dripping Springs = Sponge Cake Cove?

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 11:39 AM
Mmmm....sponge cake

Mjcpr
7/1/2011, 11:40 AM
Sorry, lake's closed. Blue-green moose out front shoulda told ya.

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:43 AM
Just don't go deep enough to get your balls wet?

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 11:44 AM
Sorry, lake's closed. Cyanobacteria moose out front shoulda told ya.

Fixed

JohnnyMack
7/1/2011, 11:45 AM
have you ever **** in a lake? nothing like a water birth. then the panic by your buddies of when and where it will surface

http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/you_are_broken_trollcat.jpg

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 11:46 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbdkspfgLr1qzuqe9.jpg

DOODY!!!!

yankee
7/1/2011, 11:47 AM
BGA...nasty stuff.

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 11:48 AM
BSG...nasty stuff.

If she were around, you'd be a dead man!

Mongo
7/1/2011, 11:49 AM
http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/you_are_broken_trollcat.jpg

wanna go to the lake?

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:51 AM
http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Pea-Puree-T-Shirt-Top-Chef.jpg

JohnnyMack
7/1/2011, 11:55 AM
wanna go to the lake?

I will kill you with a shovel and they won't find you for a decade.

Mongo
7/1/2011, 11:56 AM
you'll take a turd on your chest, but pooping in a lake is out of bounds? you are weird

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 11:57 AM
http://torinelson.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/everyone_poops.jpg

JohnnyMack
7/1/2011, 11:58 AM
you'll take a turd on your chest, but pooping in a lake is out of bounds? you are weird

You said that was due to the Messican food and not intended.

Mongo
7/1/2011, 11:58 AM
FOOLED YOU!!!

StoopTroup
7/1/2011, 12:07 PM
http://www.funnypicturesfree.com/images/october2/poop2.jpg

Boomer.....
7/1/2011, 03:18 PM
GRDA is reporting that the toxin levels that have developed in the last 24 hours from the BGA are 18x higher than the maximum allowed by the World Health Organization

They have put it on the level beyond toxic...to life threatening...and are calling it the most widespread toxic green algae outbreak in the history of the state..and said it is going to get worse before better.

Inhofe is quoted that he became "deathly sick" the night after he swam in the lake and developed a severe upper respiratory illness....he had to cancel his trip to Washington to be the keynote speaker at a convention for Climate Change skeptics.

Sooner_Tuf
7/1/2011, 03:28 PM
So it's OK to let the red headed step-kids swim?

Tulsa_Fireman
7/1/2011, 03:29 PM
GLOBAL WARMING TRIED TO KILL UNCLE JIM

3rdgensooner
7/1/2011, 04:38 PM
James Aydelott just tweeted that:

GRDA says they will not close Grand Lake, but they do recommend no contact with the water-no swimming, skiing, riding jetskis

SpankyNek
7/1/2011, 04:42 PM
GLOBAL WARMING TRIED TO KILL UNCLE JIM
http://i.imgur.com/6TCrU.gif

MR2-Sooner86
7/2/2011, 02:26 PM
GRDA Corporate Communications Director Justin Alberty

I interned there with him in his department...that ends my interest in this thread.

Fraggle145
7/28/2011, 09:53 AM
Here are some helpful links regarding cyanobacteria (bluegreen algae) and Lake advisories:

Grand Lake (http://www.grda.com/category/safety/bga-information/)

Lakes monitored by the Army Corp, like Eufaula and Texoma (http://www.swt.usace.army.mil/TDR/eNewsStory.cfm?Number=1494)

sooner_born_1960
7/28/2011, 09:56 AM
Did you mean Tenkiller?