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SoonerofAlabama
6/23/2011, 09:21 PM
From The Norman Transcript:

NORMAN — The pre-pre-pre-pre-season volleys and lobs that pass for insightful college football prognostication typically isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, nor the bandwidth required to bring it to your screen.

It does, however, tend to succeed in one regrettable score. It sets the conversation up, providing a starting point from which the actual season may go in its merry way.

Though he may not be interested in singular praise nor forecasting, were he, it is all great news for Oklahoma quarterback Landry Jones. Because being the Sooner quarterback, particularly coming into a season in which just about everybody has OU No. 1 or No. 2, means being at or near the very top at the beginning stages the Heisman Trophy discussion.

Too bad.

Jones broke many bad habits a year ago. He finally played well, with consistency, away from home. Though he did not quit throwing silly interceptions here and there — a trend that even continued at the Red-White Game — he very much quit letting early mistakes define the rest of his Saturday. And, as a result, OU closed last season with an epic Bedlam triumph, victory over Nebraska at the Big 12 title game and, clobbering Connecticut, ending its BCS bowl woes.

The problems is Jones is not OU’s best player. Ryan Broyles is OU’s best player. As it happens, Broyles is also the biggest reason Jones’ finds himself at the top of the preseason Heisman talk.

Irony.

It’s unfortunate, because not only is Broyles the best receiver ever to play at Oklahoma — while Jones is the third (and many would say fourth) best quarterback of the Bob Stoops era — he may be the best receiver ever to play college football.


Hype

If it’s too early to talk college football, somebody forgot to tell everybody. The preseason publications are out. OU is No. 1 in many of them. It wasn’t always this way, but Heisman talk has begun as well.

Matt Hinton, who writes the “Dr. Saturday” blog for Yahoo Sports, has Jones at the top of his Heisman list, one spot above No. 1 draft-pick-in-waiting, Stanford quarterback, Andrew Luck. The rest of Hinton’s top five are Alabama running back Trent Richardson, Oregon running back LaMichael James and Oklahoma State quarterback Brandon Weeden.

David Ubben, who covers the Big 12 for ESPN.com, has Jones listed as the Big 12 Conference’s best Heisman shot. Ubben isn’t taking bets, but that didn’t stop him from laying odds on Jones’ candidacy: 13 to 2. Ubben has Broyles and OSU receiver Justin Blackmon tied for second at 15 to 1.

Bodog.com, the online casino, poker room and sports book, has put out its own Heisman odds, with Luck leading at 9 to 2, Jones next at 13 to 2 and South Carolina running back Marcus Lattimore third at 7 to 1. Down the list, Blackmon and Broyles are both listed 15 to 1.

Jones finds himself in this company for two reasons. One, he is the Sooner quarterback and OU may be the best team in the land. Two, after completing 405 of 617 passes last season, 38 of them touchdowns and only 12 of them interceptions, he is a numbers machine, likely to match or exceed last season this season and, perhaps, without regrettable losses like those suffered last season at Missouri and Texas A&M.


Reality

That Broyles is the best receiver ever to play at OU is not in question. He has every record and has looked better doing it than everybody who came before. Sorry, Marc Clayton. Still, claiming him to possibly be the best receiver in the history of college football should take more convincing.

Here we go:

Broyles has 266 career receptions. The NCAA Division I record is 316, set by Taylor Stubblefield, who played at Purdue from 2001-04. Last season, Broyles caught 131 passes. If he does that again, he’ll shatter the all-time mark.

Broyles has 3,429 career receiving yards. The record belongs to Nevada’s Trevor Insley — 5,005 — who played from 1996-99. Last season, Broyles caught for 1,622 yards. If he does that again, he’ll finish 46 yards in front of Insley.

Broyles has 35 career touchdown catches. The record — 60 — belongs to Rice’s Jarrett Dillard, compiled from 2005-2008. Asking Broyles to bring down 25 more catches in the end zone is asking a lot, but it could happen.

Yes, the Heisman Trophy is about a season, rather than a career. Theoretically, at least. But that didn’t keep Ron Dayne from winning it in 1999 or Herschel Walker from winning it in 1982. Both were better as freshmen.

Career marks aside, it’s about more than numbers with Broyles. He never drops the ball. He makes catches nobody else can make. He is a walking, breathing highlight reel. And he might be the most productive receiver ever to play college football.

Jones is all about the numbers. He is a very, very good college quarterback who may well turn into a fine pro. But he is not Jason White or Sam Bradford, the Sooners’ other Heisman-winning quarterbacks.

Perhaps Jones will reach that level. Perhaps his game will take another great leap and he’ll win the Heisman Trophy on something beyond the numbers.

Maybe.

But if you want to campaign in advance, get behind the right guy. Get behind Broyles. Get behind OU’s best player.
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I don't know about this, though. Hard for me to imagine a WR winning over the quarterback that threw him the ball because for every touchdown the receiver would catch, would be another for the quarterback.

Dwight
6/23/2011, 10:02 PM
No.

And he spelled Mark Clayton wrong.

EatLeadCommie
6/23/2011, 10:49 PM
Broyles is the better player, but QBs are always better Heisman candidates because they are involved in every play. It's why Jason White should have won and did win it over Larry Fitzgerald. Who was the last WR to win it? Desmond Howard at Michigan? I seem to recall he played some defense and special teams as well. Before that, it was Tim Brown, who mainly won it just because he went to ND and not because he put up gaudy numbers. Those two are the only WRs to win the Heisman. For Broyles to do the same, he has to have a year like he did last year and also run a few kicks and punts back for TDs.

WE ARE dirtburglars
6/23/2011, 11:18 PM
Broyles the best WR in NCAA history? Thought hadnt crossed my mind till now, very interesting.

Dwight
6/23/2011, 11:49 PM
Broyles the best WR in NCAA history? Thought hadnt crossed my mind till now, very interesting.

Same here. He'll definitely set the all-time record for receptions.

OK2U
6/24/2011, 12:28 AM
Mark Clayton said something today that took me by surprise about strength

As far as Broyles goes, his breakout 2010 season already puts him at the top of OU's career list in receptions, yards and touchdowns. The person he eclipsed on all three? Clayton.
“I talk to Ryan on (a regular basis),” Clayton said. “He is a lot stronger than me when I played there and I like what they are doing. It's a special connection.”


Read more: http://newsok.com/jason-white-mark-clayton-recall-their-glory-days-with-ou-football/article/3579787#ixzz1QAV2XCaZ

fwsooner22
6/24/2011, 07:08 AM
In my opinion it's not even close. Broyles is extremely special. Landry is awesome but those "crazy what just happened moments" are the difference for me.

texaspokieokie
6/24/2011, 08:32 AM
all time best ???

SoonerAtKU
6/24/2011, 08:43 AM
I honestly had no idea he was within striking distance (maybe not on TDs, but...) of the three big records for receivers all-time. It would indeed be insane if all three were held by the same dude. It'd be hard to argue against him being the best.

I will say, however, if he were 3 inches taller, he'd probably have declared for the draft last year and we would just be talking about him as the best ever at OU.