View Full Version : atheists angry.....again...
87sooner
6/21/2011, 03:24 PM
why do they even care?
go suck it atheists...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/21/new-york-atheists-angry-over-heaven-street-sign-honoring-11victims/
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 03:27 PM
They should move to Afghanistan
yermom
6/21/2011, 03:28 PM
they used public funds to support the idea of "heaven" i don't see what's so surprising about it
OutlandTrophy
6/21/2011, 03:29 PM
they used public funds to support the idea of "heaven" i don't see what's so surprising about it
which religon believes in heaven?
JLEW1818
6/21/2011, 03:30 PM
5-7*
I don't care that they care
87sooner
6/21/2011, 03:31 PM
two of my favorite quotes from the article...
“We’ve concluded as atheists there is no heaven and there’s no hell,” he said.
“It implies that heaven actually exists,” Silverman told Fox News Radio.
Jammin'
6/21/2011, 03:32 PM
“When you think you’ve heard it all, you haven’t,” Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz told Fox News Radio. “These seven brave souls who put their lives on the line and ultimately gave up the most precious gift that could be given, believe me are in heaven for serving us so admirably,” he said.
This was my favorite part. I mean who wouldn't base their beliefs of the afterlife on the opinion of the current Brooklyn Borough President?
JohnnyMack
6/21/2011, 03:32 PM
It's a bad PR move on the part of the Atheists. Even though they're technically accurate, it's a giant waste of time.
Jammin'
6/21/2011, 03:33 PM
It's a bad PR move on the part of the Atheists. Even though they're technically accurate, it's a giant waste of time.
also, this.
The Maestro
6/21/2011, 03:33 PM
go suck it atheists...
Jesus would be so proud of you! ;)
Vocal atheists for such petty matters are foolish. It's a street sign, not a philiosophy to teach in school.
http://i.imgur.com/2Rirb.jpg
Mississippi Sooner
6/21/2011, 03:36 PM
It's Brooklyn. What will its actual lifespan be?
At least they didn't name it . . . on second thought, I guess I better not say anything for fear of offending one or all sides on this one.
But in the grand scheme of things, no cause is served when it's adherents cry like whiny babies or what is essentially . . . nothing.
At least they didn't name it . . . on second thought, I guess I better not say anything for fear of offending one or all sides on this one.
But in the grand scheme of things, no cause is served when it's adherents cry like whiny babies or what is essentially . . . nothing.
You have to be vigilant. Otherwise, you get crap like this:
http://static3.depositphotos.com/1005895/202/i/450/dep_2020936-In-God-We-Trust-from-the-dollar-bill.jpg
87sooner
6/21/2011, 03:40 PM
It's a bad PR move on the part of the Atheists. Even though they're technically accurate, it's a giant waste of time.
could you cite an example of "good pr news" for atheists?
Jammin'
6/21/2011, 03:49 PM
could you cite an example of "good pr news" for atheists?
After further review this may need to be filed under "bad pr news for the godly", but it's close enough: http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
MR2-Sooner86
6/21/2011, 03:51 PM
go suck it atheists...
Silly Christian, myths are for kids.
As for the atheist in the story, shut up. It's militant atheist like you who mess up everything for the rest of us and give atheist the bad press.
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 03:57 PM
Does the street sign:
a. Have a secular purpose?
---Yes, it is signage and performs the same functions as other signs like MLK Blvd and others. It honors certain people and provides location information.
b. Is the sign's primary effect or purpose to either advance or inhibit religion?
---It is a pretty weak argument that this sign's primary effect or purpose is to advance religion. It may advance the idea that there is a heaven, but to say that the sign's primary effect or purpose is to advance the idea of heaven is pretty weak. The sign's primary purpose is to pay respects to those who sacrificed their lives and to provide directions and location information.
c. Does the sign cause the government to be excessively entangled in religion?
---Heavens no. I mean "no-hope-after-this-life-and-only-a-dirt-nap" no.
The above questions are the Lemon test and provide the framework by which the court will determine the Constitutionality of the sign. If either question two or three is answered in the affirmative or question one is answered in the negative, then the sign is a violation of the Establishment Clause. I have a hard time seeing how question two or three can reasonably answered in the affirmative or question one can be answered in the negative.
badger
6/21/2011, 03:59 PM
"heaven" can simply be defined as a better place than you are right now, or a place without pain, fear, worry, etc.
That word isn't necessarily tied to religion in all cases.
MR2-Sooner86
6/21/2011, 04:02 PM
"heaven" can simply be defined as a better place than you are right now, or a place without pain, fear, worry, etc.
The VIP room at Night Trips :D
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 04:03 PM
"heaven" can simply be defined as a better place than you are right now, or a place without pain, fear, worry, etc.
That word isn't necessarily tied to religion in all cases.
The atheist malcontents would counter that by saying that it still endorses the concept of a metaphysical state and therefore advances religion. Their argument is still a loser in my opinion.
What if one of the firefighters didn't give it up to Jesus and is in hell with Ghandi, Einstein, and Pat Tillman?
KantoSooner
6/21/2011, 04:09 PM
This strikes me as one of those situations best dealt with in the manner of my grandfather when forced to come downstairs at holiday meal time. Just start cracking ALL the kids upside the head until the uproar died down. Then go back upstairs to the adults' table. Mumbling under his breath.
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 04:09 PM
Do the Atheists have their own State yet? Rhode Island? I mean how hard could it be to buy Rhode Island if they pooled their money?
Do the Atheists have their own State yet? Rhode Island? I mean how hard could it be to buy Rhode Island if they pooled their money?
You guys already have the south and mid-west. Why not give us California or something?
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 04:16 PM
You guys already have the south and mid-west. Why not give us California or something?
West coast is already promised to the invaders from south of the border.
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 04:16 PM
You guys already have the south and mid-west. Why not give us California or something?
You guys? I'm not an Atheist. I actually think they should STFU
JohnnyMack
6/21/2011, 04:22 PM
I actually think they should STFU
Yeah. There's more Christians than anything else, so they should make the rules.
JLEW1818
6/21/2011, 04:25 PM
JM you need Jesus!
You guys? I'm not an Atheist. I actually think they should STFU
I think the NY/NJ atheist guys should probably STFU too.
We're talking land here, you bible guys can have :texan: and the south since there's already a belt of bibles there. ;)
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 04:34 PM
I think the NY/NJ atheist guys should probably STFU too.
We're talking land here, you bible guys can have :texan: and the south since there's already a belt of bibles there. ;)
Since the Bible guys came from the east and worked their way West....why don't the atheists just take Guam.
Mississippi Sooner
6/21/2011, 04:36 PM
Since the Bible guys came from the east and worked their way West....why don't the atheists just take Guam.
Because it might tip over!
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 04:37 PM
Because it might tip over!
LMAO....
sappstuf
6/21/2011, 04:48 PM
West coast is already promised to the invaders from south of the border.
Which are heavily catholic....
KantoSooner
6/21/2011, 05:01 PM
If we're divvying things up, can I have Saipan? Excellent beaches, nice sweat shop labor and gambling casino economy. Quick and easy private plane flight away from Manila. What more could you want?
OUMallen
6/21/2011, 05:06 PM
I'm pretty ACLU-ish, and even I think these atheists are going overboard. I'd even argue that the word "heaven" or the concept/definition of it can be construed as really not all that religious anyway.
I'm in heaven when I eat deep dish pizza.
soonercruiser
6/21/2011, 05:06 PM
Since the Bible guys came from the east and worked their way West....why don't the atheists just take Guam.
Not Guam!
Democratic Congressman thinks it gonna tip over, or something!
:D
OOps! Sorry Mississippi!
You beat me to it.
soonercruiser
6/21/2011, 05:13 PM
This is the same New York, where a middle school teacher had students pick songs for a concert. One class picked "When the Saint Go Marching in".
"School authorities" would only allow it if the words where changed to "When the Ants Go Marching In".
('dirty" little Christian song anyway)
School Changes 'When the Saints Go Marching In' to 'Ants'
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/06/21/school-changes-when-saints-go-marching-when-ants-go-marching
OUMallen
6/21/2011, 05:14 PM
This is the same New York, where a middle school teacher had students pick songs for a concert. One class picked "When the Saint Go Marching in".
"School authorities" would only allow it if the words where changed to "When the Ants Go Marching In".
('dirty" little Christian song anyway)
School Changes 'When the Saints Go Marching In' to 'Ants'
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/06/21/school-changes-when-saints-go-marching-when-ants-go-marching
That makes way more sense than the OP story.
AlboSooner
6/21/2011, 07:18 PM
pfff only 3 pages
goingoneight
6/21/2011, 07:28 PM
People who whine about stuff like this give normal atheists a bad name. Just like a lot of whiny attention whores give other people a bad name.
okie52
6/21/2011, 08:16 PM
You have to be vigilant. Otherwise, you get crap like this:
http://static3.depositphotos.com/1005895/202/i/450/dep_2020936-In-God-We-Trust-from-the-dollar-bill.jpg
It's amazing enlightened people will cash this crap
delhalew
6/21/2011, 08:50 PM
Would it kill these heathens to respect the heritage of our nation?
yermom
6/21/2011, 08:52 PM
you mean like the Constitution?
why do you believers need your stamp on everything?
delhalew
6/21/2011, 08:55 PM
you mean like the Constitution?
why do you believers need your stamp on everything?
Better give it another read.
MR2-Sooner86
6/21/2011, 09:00 PM
Are the atheist right? When you get down to it, yes.
Are we a Christian nation? No, see the Treaty of Tripoli.
Are the atheist making a mountain out of a mole hill by bitching about nothing? Yes.
I really don't care about this and they shouldn't either. The whole issue makes them look like little bitches.
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 10:07 PM
Gee, you mean that the third prong may have been subsumed into the second. Not that it makes much difference in the analysis.
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 10:10 PM
What is the rate of subsumation? :D
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 10:12 PM
What is the rate of subsumation? :D
I dunno. If I was good at math, then I would have gone to med school. :D ;)
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 10:13 PM
LOL
U Graduated? If so you are the first Bear I've met on here that did. :D
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 10:15 PM
Many moons ago I graduated.
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 10:20 PM
Many moons ago I graduated.
Congratulations! Is it alright if I someday contact you regarding an intervention for one of our posters someday? You know....if the time is right? :D ;)
BU BEAR
6/21/2011, 10:23 PM
Sure, I do what I can.
StoopTroup
6/21/2011, 10:24 PM
:D
soonercruiser
6/21/2011, 11:14 PM
People who whine about stuff like this give normal atheists a bad name. Just like a lot of whiny attention whores give other people a bad name.
Quit whining!
:P
soonercruiser
6/21/2011, 11:17 PM
Congratulations! Is it alright if I someday contact you regarding an intervention for one of our posters someday? You know....if the time is right? :D ;)
Get help now.....before prices go up!
:D
(That's about the whimpiest call for help I ever heard.)
87sooner
6/22/2011, 10:55 AM
an atheist "bible".....awesome...
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/21/do-need-new-bible/?test=faces
an atheist "bible".....awesome...
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/21/do-need-new-bible/?test=faces
Looks like a humanist bible to me. Kind of like Jefferson's redacted bible where he cut out the supernatural stuff he didn't like.
olevetonahill
6/22/2011, 11:18 AM
Of course atheists are angry. They dont have a God to turn to for comfort;)
Midtowner
6/22/2011, 12:22 PM
And all this goes to show is that some atheists are just as stupid as some Christians and some Muslims about what they choose to let offend them.
From the Christians who decided to put up the sign knowing full well that some hypersensitive atheists would gritch to the atheists to the Christians who are now gritching about oversensitive atheists, everyone involved is an a-hole.
I get why the atheists are doing what they're doing. They're worried about incrementalism, i.e., Christians of the future using the fact that no one complained about this issue to starting to name streets after characters in the Bible or something equally silly.
Can we just agree that the government is secular, period, and move on?
Easy peasy.
BU BEAR
6/22/2011, 12:29 PM
I get why the atheists are doing what they're doing. They're worried about incrementalism, i.e., Christians of the future using the fact that no one complained about this issue to starting to name streets after characters in the Bible or something equally silly.
Darn it. They are on to my Master Plan. There is a street that intersects with Caesar Chavez Blvd. I was going to get it renamed to Jesus Is The Way. If, and when, the ACLU complained, I was going to tell them that the street name was pronounced Hey-Soos.
So much for the element of surprise. Maybe I just settle for building a massive corporate tower on 316 John Street.
Midtowner
6/22/2011, 12:45 PM
The above wouldn't surprise me. I swear, some religious types are as eager to brand all public property with religious icons as dogs are eager to pee on fire hydrants.
87sooner
6/22/2011, 12:50 PM
From the Christians who decided to put up the sign knowing full well that some hypersensitive atheists would gritch to the atheists to the Christians who are now gritching about oversensitive atheists, everyone involved is an a-hole.
I get why the atheists are doing what they're doing. They're worried about incrementalism, i.e., Christians of the future using the fact that no one complained about this issue to starting to name streets after characters in the Bible or something equally silly.
Can we just agree that the government is secular, period, and move on?
Easy peasy.
doubtful...
they're doing it for publicity....and they waited until the ceremony and the sign going up to cry about it....for maximum effect...
does the word "heaven" on a street sign make the govt. "non secular"?
87sooner
6/22/2011, 12:52 PM
The above wouldn't surprise me. I swear, some religious types are as eager to brand all public property with religious icons as dogs are eager to pee on fire hydrants.
and the atheists are just as eager to claim "offense" and "harm" to the smallest christian symbols...as demonstrated in this case
Bourbon St Sooner
6/22/2011, 12:52 PM
This is the same New York, where a middle school teacher had students pick songs for a concert. One class picked "When the Saint Go Marching in".
"School authorities" would only allow it if the words where changed to "When the Ants Go Marching In".
('dirty" little Christian song anyway)
School Changes 'When the Saints Go Marching In' to 'Ants'
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/06/21/school-changes-when-saints-go-marching-when-ants-go-marching
They are clearly anti-Drew Brees.
Bourbon St Sooner
6/22/2011, 12:57 PM
I get why the atheists are doing what they're doing. They're worried about incrementalism, i.e., Christians of the future using the fact that no one complained about this issue to starting to name streets after characters in the Bible or something equally silly.
Can we get the ACLU in OK to check if we have streets/towns named for Native American religious symbols? What the hell does Chatauqua mean anyways? I think something subversive is going on here.
47straight
6/22/2011, 12:59 PM
I really found it disgusting and a complete violation of the eternal and perfect wall of separation of church and state when good ole' George W. insisted on swearing on a Bible for his oath, adding so help me God, and forcing the federal government to take a holiday with the Thanksgiving proclamation that we were to use the day to give thanks to our Creator.
47straight
6/22/2011, 12:59 PM
Stupid George Washington.
stoopified
6/22/2011, 01:01 PM
I don't recognize aethiest disbelief in God.
BU BEAR
6/22/2011, 01:31 PM
The above wouldn't surprise me. I swear, some religious types are as eager to brand all public property with religious icons as dogs are eager to pee on fire hydrants.
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
KABOOKIE
6/22/2011, 01:53 PM
Did Congress put this sign up? Didn't think so.
imjebus
6/22/2011, 03:41 PM
This strikes me as one of those situations best dealt with in the manner of my grandfather when forced to come downstairs at holiday meal time. Just start cracking ALL the kids upside the head until the uproar died down. Then go back upstairs to the adults' table. Mumbling under his breath.
he sounds like a dick....:D
KantoSooner
6/22/2011, 04:43 PM
Well that was certainly us kids' point of view at that moment.
On the other hand the general mayhem, food fighting etc that inevitably ensued when all the cousins got together would have driven a saint to mass murder. So, under the circumstances, he was pretty restrained.
OUMallen
6/22/2011, 05:00 PM
What the hell does Chatauqua mean anyways? I think something subversive is going on here.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad:
MR2-Sooner86
6/22/2011, 06:10 PM
Atheist are just like Christians except they believe in one less god.
pphilfran
6/22/2011, 06:31 PM
Atheist are just like Christians except they believe in one less god.
:)
KABOOKIE
6/22/2011, 10:22 PM
Did the 14th Amendment get repealed all of a sudden?
Nope. Does it routinely get stretched and interpreted incorrectly in peoples opinion for instances like this? Yep, this will fail.
AlbqSooner
6/23/2011, 08:19 AM
If this passes, we will have to re-name San Francisco, CA; St. Paul MN; Corpus Christi, TX; and, multiple other places.
delhalew
6/23/2011, 08:22 AM
Athiests are the only people worse than Christians about trying to tell you what you can and can't do.
KantoSooner
6/23/2011, 08:25 AM
If this passes, we will have to re-name San Francisco, CA; St. Paul MN; Corpus Christi, TX; and, multiple other places.
What an opportunity!
Let's go!!
SFO = Condescension, CA
St. Paul = Penis Envy, MN
Corpus Christi = Betr n Messico, TX
Bourbon St Sooner
6/23/2011, 10:09 AM
If this passes, we will have to re-name San Francisco, CA; St. Paul MN; Corpus Christi, TX; and, multiple other places.
Which begs the question, if there's a place name that's not of religious origin, is it promoting atheism?
KABOOKIE
6/23/2011, 10:54 AM
Well, opinions are kind of like *******s. Everyone has one, most of them stink.
Thanks cpt. obvious.
okie52
6/23/2011, 11:35 AM
Well, opinions are kind of like *******s. Everyone has one, most of them stink.
Does that include the bleached ones?
Ton Loc
6/23/2011, 11:49 AM
Dear Atheists.
Stop caring. You don't believe in anything. Thus, you don't get to care about it.
Stop trying to turn atheism into a religion.
Yes, this was probably stated a thousand times before in many different ways, but the only thing worse than an I'm your face religious person is a in your face panties in wad "atheist" making a stink about something they don't or shouldn't care about.
yermom
6/23/2011, 01:10 PM
Dear Christians,
stop being turds.
thank you.
StoopTroup
6/23/2011, 01:16 PM
The deathbed can lead people to speak with great honesty and, in many cases, humor.
I am perplexed. Satan Get Out!
Said by: Aleister Crowley – famous occultist
SoonerofAlabama
6/23/2011, 07:28 PM
Well, opinions are kind of like *******s. Everyone has one, most of them stink.
Awesome saying.
olevetonahill
6/23/2011, 07:35 PM
Awesome saying.
Froz just made that up all by himself.
SoonerofAlabama
6/23/2011, 07:49 PM
Froz just made that up all by himself.
Hey, not saying he did. I have seen it before, I just like the saying.
olevetonahill
6/23/2011, 07:54 PM
Hey, not saying he did. I have seen it before, I just like the saying.
He really did coin that phrase
JohnnyMack
6/23/2011, 08:40 PM
Dear Atheists.
Stop caring. You don't believe in anything. Thus, you don't get to care about it.
You're confusing atheism with nihilism.
An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger."
The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, "What would you want to talk about?"
"Oh, I don't know," said the atheist. "How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly.
"OK," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"
The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea."
To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death, when you don't know sh*t?"
And then she went back to reading her book.
MR2-Sooner86
8/29/2011, 08:24 PM
JESUS IS COMING!
Better get a towel.
SanJoaquinSooner
8/29/2011, 10:11 PM
Athiests are the only people worse than Christians about trying to tell you what you can and can't do.
Did Spongebob declare today Opposite Day?
SoonerLaw09
8/30/2011, 04:57 PM
MR2,
Line. Crossed.
Good thing you didn't say Muhammad...you just might wake up with a grenade in your shorts.
MR2-Sooner86
8/30/2011, 05:21 PM
MR2,
Line. Crossed.
Good thing you didn't say Muhammad...you just might wake up with a grenade in your shorts.
Muhammad? You mean the guy that in deciding if a girl was old enough to marry he got a barrel and if her chin rested on the lip they were old enough but if it didn't he got a book?
MR2-Sooner86
8/30/2011, 05:23 PM
Speaking of how do you get an Arabic woman pregnant? You dress her up as a camel.
Seriously though I only look at Muslims with one eye....until the magazine is empty.
Ton Loc
8/30/2011, 05:36 PM
You're confusing atheism with nihilism.
Nah, Nihilists are atheists, but not all atheists are nihilists.
You atheists are ruining my agnosticism.
C&CDean
8/30/2011, 05:48 PM
Silly, silly people.
Barry's_Scowl
8/31/2011, 10:58 AM
Most true atheists are as upset about this as they would be about a street being named "Cinderella Ave" or "Oz Street". A street named after a fictional land is pretty harmless.
MelloYello
8/31/2011, 11:51 AM
Most true atheists are as upset about this as they would be about a street being named "Cinderella Ave" or "Oz Street". A street named after a fictional land is pretty harmless.
This.
As an atheist I'd still rather my city be named Corpus Christi (Body of Christ) than Toad Suck. Just saying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toad_Suck,_Arkansas
OutlandTrophy
8/31/2011, 01:22 PM
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