Oregon paid 25k to Will Lyles for outdated player profiles

[SoonerDan74012]

Really Oregon? Really?


Oregon football: Player profiles Willie Lyles sold Ducks appear outdated, lacking national scale
Published: Monday, June 20, 2011, 4:34 PM Updated: Monday, June 20, 2011, 6:40 PM
Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian By Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian
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A national recruiting package purchased by Oregon in February 2010 that included the player profiles for 140 players with the heading “Player Profile 2011” is made up of virtually all 2009 high school graduates.

Further, although the service was billed as a “national package,” the vast majority of the players are from Texas. Forty of those profiled are from Houston. Of the five from outside Texas, two were from South Carolina, and one each from California, Oklahoma and Louisiana.

UO purchased the package from Willie J. Lyles' Houston-based Complete Scouting Services for $25,000.

Amid the documents released by Oregon related to the football scouting services inquiry were 140 recruiting profiles of high school players under the heading “2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet." Above each individual profile, however, reads “Player Profile 2011.” The related invoice cites the "2011 National Package."

A search of all the players listed revealed that virtually all graduated from high school in 2009 with a few graduating in 2010 or 2008.

One of the recruits in the package dated 2011 was defensive lineman Nosa Eguae out of Mansfield Summit High School in Arlington, Texas. Eguae signed with Auburn in 2009 and started 11 games for the Tigers last season, including the BCS National Championship game against Oregon. He had four tackles, one for loss against the Ducks.

Two profiles appear of the same player. One profile was a redacted bio page for privacy reasons, presumably a recruit who wound up at Oregon.

Tragically, another listed recruit, wide receiver Josh Rake out of Southlake Carroll High School in Southlake, Texas, died in a car accident in on Sept. 30, 2010 during his freshman year at the University of North Texas.

UO has not answered to The Oregonian's questions for more specifics on the document, including when it actually received it and what period it was intended to cover.

--Aaron Fentress



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Name Position High School City Grad Year College
Tyler Williamson WR Cy Woods Cypress, Texas 2009 NA
Lucas DeVilliers QB Cy Woods Cypress, Texas 2009 NA
Gray Mowery OL/DL South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Anthony Foster WR Tulsa Union Tulsa, Okl. 2009 Tulsa University
Dewayne Buggs LB Lamar / Westheimer, Texas 2009 Tabor Colege
Raphael Hendrix DB Marshall Marshall, Texas 2009 Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Clark Evans QB Los Alamitos Los Alamitos, Calif. 2009 Colorado
Devown Hines LB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Ethan Harry QB/DB The St. Johns School Claremont, Texas 2009 Middlebury
Carl Jones LB Sam Houston Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Josh Bibb OL Marshall Marshall, Tex 2009 Arkansas Tech
Keenan Flax OL Cy-Ridge Houston, Texas 2009 Houston
Joshua Dominique LB M.B. Smiley Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Georgio Howard LB/RB Houston Sterling Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Eric Davis QB/FS Grand Prairie Grand Prairie, Texas 2009 NA
Terrence Coleman WR/DB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Terry Coleman LB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Augustus Freeman Ath Grand Prairie Arlington, Texas NA NA
Evan Gauthia OL/DL Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas NA NA
Darrius Smith WR Cedar Hill Cedar Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Denzel Davis CB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Robert Davis OL La Marque La Marque, Texas 2009 NA
Jake DeBerry TE Danburry Danbury, Texas 2009 NA
Maurice Gilliam RB Woodruff Woodruff, S.C. 2009 NA
Joseph DeLeon OL Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Nosa Eguae DL Mansfield Summit Arlington, Texas 2009 Auburn
Trevor Eickman TE/DE Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Terrence Fletcher DB Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Southern U
Chris Frazier QB/FB Dallas Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 SMU
Jacob Freeman DL Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Brandon Gailliard RB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Desmond Gardiner CB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 Texas A&M
Jermaine Garrett DE/LB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Collin Glover SS Cedar Hill Cedar Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Damien Gomez QB/DB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Jamarcus Goodall DT Cedar Hill Cedar Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Kolby Gray TB Cy-Falls Houston, Texas 2009 Pittsburgh
Jonathan Gray TB Jefferson Jefferson, Texas NA NA
Clyde Green WR Aldine Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Kenneth Guiton QB Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Ohio State
Blake Hamblin QB Rowlett Rowlett, Texas 2009 NA
Keldon Hampton RB Dallas Skyline/Spruce Dallas, Texas 2009 UTEP
Tim Harris OL/DL Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Southwest Baptist U
Cody Hebert SS Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Dominque Henderson DE Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2010 NA
Jacob Bibb OL Marshall Marshall, Texas 2009 Arkansas Tech
Hilbert Jackson CB Rowlett Rowlett, Texas 2009 North Texas
Derek Jammer DB Thurgood Marshall Missouri City, Texas 2009 Evangel College
Arthur Jones OL Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Mitchell Justice DB La Marque1 La Marque, Texas 2009 NA
Marquis Kindle baseball Lamar Houston, Texas 2010 McLennan College
Larry King RB CE King Houston, Texas 2008 NA
Dontrell Lawrence DB Dallas Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 Sam Houston St
James Levine S Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Gary London TE Baton Rouge Southern Lab Baton Rouge, La. 2009 Alabama St
Verlis Martin DB Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Southern University
Royce McCarthy OL Furr Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Dominque McDonald LB Klein Forest Houston, Texas 2010 NA
Andre McDonald TE Eisenhower Houston, Texas NA NA
Curtis McGregor RB Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Lance Oderbert OLB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas NA NA
Uzoma Nwachukwu WR Allen Allen, Texas 2009 Texas A&M
Alan Nguyen DB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Jamal Nero RB Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 Cisco Junior College
Joel Musita DE Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Todd Murray DT Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Jamal Moultry RB M.B. Smiley Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Austin Moss LB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Drew Moore DL Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Vaughn Miller QB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Matthew ****ord WR Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Cody Milam OL Allen Allen, Texas 2009 NA
Cori Middleton DT Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Will McWhirter OL Southlake Southlake, Texas 2009 NA
Luis Avina RB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Jamell Bagby WR Cedar Hill Cedar Hill, 2009 NA
Eugene Blackwell DT/OL Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Keith Blanton WR Garland Garland, Texas 2009 Iowa State University
Adrian Blaylock DT/DE Ceder Hill Ceder Hill, Texas 2009 Kilgore College
John Boyd LB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Brandon Boyd DB Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 West Texas A&M
Loyd Bradley CB Mansfield North Arlington, Texas 2009 Formerly Air Force Academy
Marquee Brisco CB Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Prestin Brown DL Grand Prairie Grand Prairie, Texas 2009 Texas State
Michael Brown OG Lexington Lexington, Texas 2009 University of Mississippi
Trey Burrell RB Hardin-Jefferson Sour Lake, Texas 2009 NA
George Carter CB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Patrick Chamberlain OG Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Christopher Chartier DB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
LaAdrian Waddle OL Columbus Columbus, Texas 2009 Texas Tech
Eric Walker OT Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 Columbia
Keenan Walker RB Cedar Hill Ceder Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Wesley Vonner TE Grand Prairie Grand Prairie, Texas 2009 NA
Sean Tillotson DL Mansfield Summit Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Ronald Thompson RB/LB Ronald Thompson Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Marcus Thompson DE Aldine Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Sheriff Thomas WR Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Charlie Thomas LB Beaumont Central Beaumont, Texas 2009 Texas A&M
Michael Thomas TB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Christian Terry RB Smiley Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Steven Terrell DB Allen Allen, Texas 2009 Texas A&M
Darius Tanner C Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas NA NA
Tyler Smith LB Ceder Hill Ceder Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Darnell Smith WR South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
Boston Spiva CB Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 Texas Tech - Track and Field
Bradley Onyegbule SLB Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 Cisco College
Kyle Padron QB Soutlake Carroll Southlake, Texas 2009 Southern Methodist University
Chazz Paris CB Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 NA
Brian Phillips OT Arlington Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Marquale Pierson CB Rowlett Rowlett, Texas 2009 NA
Patrick Pineda OL Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Cedric Proctor QB Chesnee Chesnee, S.C. 2009 South Carolina State University
Josh Rake WR Southlake Carroll Southlake, Texas 2009 North Texas
Reginald Reed DB Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 Naval Academy
Jaz Reynolds WR Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Oklahoma
Brian Ritell DL La Marque High La Marque, Texas 2009 McNeese State
Jonathan Rivers WR Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 NA
Justin Roberson LB/FB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Tajye' Roberson OL Arlington High Arlington, Texas 2009 NA
Jermie Roberts DT/OT South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 Baylor
Daniel Rosas C Grand Prairie Grand Prairie, Texas 2009 NA
Stephan Ross WR/DB Rowlett High Rowlett, Texas 2009 NA
Aneus Ruiz OG/DT M.B. Smiley Houston, Texas 2009 Prairie View A&M
Jamie Salizar K South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 Arizona
Joshua Sam LB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas 2009 NA
Jharell Seales LB Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas NA NA
Arthur Washington DE Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 NA
Tyler Washington LB Cedar Hill Cedar Hill, Texas 2009 NA
Chris West RB Mayde Creek Houston, Texas 2009 NA
Jonathan Wev SS La Marque High Clear Lake, Texas 2009 Naval Academy
Jamal White DB South Garland Garland, Texas 2009 NA
James White RB Dallas Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 Iowa State University
Steve Williams CB Dallas Skyline Dallas, Texas 2009 University of California Berkeley
Jeremiah Williams RB Allen Allen, Texas 2009 NA
Robert Wright RB Grand Prairie Grand Prairie, Texas 2009 NA
Craig Young Jr. DE Port Arthur Memorial Port Arthur, Texas NA NA
Scott Zimmerle QB Danbury Danbury, Texas 2009 Alvin Community College - Baseball
Raymond Zurita Ath Mayde Creek Houston,Texas NA NA

[WE ARE dirtburglars]

I hope the hammer comes down on these guys too.

[SoonerofAlabama]

It has been a wild offseason for sure. Auburn, Boise State, Oregon, tOSU, UNC all facing NCAA sactions. I still expect to see CFL to do an episode on all of the things from this offseason.

[Curly Bill]

Oregon went from a mediocre program to running with the big dogs in fairly short order. Call me cynical, but whenever I see a program do that my first thought is someone has broke out the checkbook. And I don't mean just to buy updated facilities, fancy uniforms and the like...

[Hot Rod]

Oregon went from a mediocre program to running with the big dogs in fairly short order. Call me cynical, but whenever I see a program do that my first thought is someone has broke out the checkbook. And I don't mean just to buy updated facilities, fancy uniforms and the like...

Good thing is the run doesn't last long. :D

[toast]

Any truth to the rumor that osu just offered $15,000 to Oregon for the video thinking they would take advantage of the huge discount?

[Jacie]

The cynic in me suggests the possibility that this "document" released by UO as the one they paid $25k for may not in fact be that document . . .

A casual look at the list of names and the only one that jumps out at me:

Jaz Reynolds WR Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Oklahoma

[SoonerDan74012]

The cynic in me suggests the possibility that this "document" released by UO as the one they paid $25k for may not in fact be that document . . .

A casual look at the list of names and the only one that jumps out at me:

Jaz Reynolds WR Eisenhower Houston, Texas 2009 Oklahoma

This article might explain why his name is on that list.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/06/20/oregon.recruiting/index.html?sct=cf_t11_a0


The Price is Wrong, Ducks

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Oregon released documents pertaining to Will Lyles after open records requests
Lyles was the Houston-based scout that the school paid $25,000 to in 2010
If the booklet released is any indication, Oregon got righteously ripped off
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If my life depended on the outcome of one Price is Right game played by someone else, I would pray that no one screamed, "Oregon football staff, come on down!" If it's Squeeze Play, I'm dead. If it's Cliff Hangers, I'm dead. If it's Plinko, I'm dead.

Maybe the coaches at Oregon need to bring in Bob Barker for a crash course. Maybe they need to watch an Extreme Couponing marathon to improve their retail pricing skills. Because when they bought what Will Lyles was selling, they got righteously ripped off.

You already know the Ducks paid $25,000 to Houston-based Lyles shortly after National Signing Day in 2010. You already know that the school's official position was that the money paid for a 2011 "national scouting package" from Lyles' Complete Scouting Services that included videos and information about prospects in the signing class of 2011. You also know the school's position was that the payment had nothing to do with Temple, Texas, tailback Lache Seastrunk, who signed with Oregon shortly before the check was cut and with whom Lyles had a close relationship.

Monday, in response to open records requests by the Eugene Register-Guard and The Oregonian, Oregon released a wealth of documents pertaining to Lyles. One of those contained the "2010 National High School Evaluation Booklet," which on its inside pages contained what it claimed are "Player Profiles 2011." School officials claimed the videos are jumbled with hundreds from other sources in the football program's computer system, so they couldn't figure out which came from Lyles and which came from other sources. So they didn't produce any videos.

Curious as to what exactly those Oregon coaches got for their 25-grand investment? If the booklet (posted here by The Oregonian) is any indication, they got hosed. Let us count the ways:

• All the players profiled were members of the class of 2009.

• In Lyles' nation, there are only 140 players, and 133 of them played their high school ball in Texas.

• Only 22 were good enough to sign football scholarships with FBS schools. Of those, 15 signed with BCS automatic-qualifying schools.

• One player profiled died in 2010 while a freshman at North Texas.

• The profile for DeWayne Buggs, a linebacker from Houston's Lamar High, includes a category called "MSL Sports.net ranking." That suggests Lyles simply cut and pasted the profile from material produced for a former employer. Shawn Garrity, the former president of now-defunct MSL Sports, confirmed to SI.com that Lyles worked for the company as a regional scout. This Facebook posting also connects Lyles to MSL. For his part, Garrity said this of Lyles: "He's a good guy. This is not a guy driving a Mercedes around."

• The two paragraphs under the headline "About us" are almost identical to the two paragraphs under the headline "About" on the website of Elite Scouting Services, another previous Lyles employer. The only differences? "Elite Scouting Services" has been changed to "Complete Scouting Services" and "ESS" has been changed to "CSS."

Oregon spokesman Dave Williford said late Monday that he had forwarded all questions about the booklet to the compliance office, but he didn't expect an answer Monday. Now the Ducks are thinking. It will take time to weave a tale that will explain all this in a satisfactory manner.

My money is on this excuse: The booklet was a sample, sent by Lyles to illustrate what the real thing might look like. If Oregon comes back with that, the next questions will come quickly.

• So, based on an incomplete, possibly plagiarized sample, your football program paid Lyles $25,000 (an amount legitimate recruiting service provider Dick Lascola told SI.com "better provide a hell of a lot.")?

• So where is the real material? (It had better be produced within nanoseconds, or everyone will assume something fishy.)

• Is this the same story you gave the NCAA?

That's the key question now. What did coach Chip Kelly and his staff tell NCAA investigators when they asked earlier this year about the payment to Lyles?

"Most programs purchase recruiting services," Kelly told ESPN.com in March. "Our compliance office is aware of it. Will has a recruiting service that met NCAA rules and we used him in 2010."

If the booklet isn't a sample, then that statement could land Kelly in real trouble -- especially if he used it with NCAA investigators as well as the media. Why would a program pay $25,000 in 2010 for information about recruits who signed with schools in February 2009? Unless Lyles can somehow bend space and time. Then Oregon got a bargain.

Even if the payment was for something else, investigators probably couldn't have proved the Ducks broke any 2010-vintage NCAA rule regarding scouting services. But that only holds true if Lyles produced something resembling a legitimate product. If Kelly or any of his coaches tried to pass off the booklet released Monday as legitimate, NCAA investigators might consider that a fib on the level of, say, claiming a recruit wasn't at a cookout at a coach's house when he actually was or, possibly, conveniently forgetting to mention that series of e-mails about the tattoo parlor. Ask former Tennessee basketball coach Bruce Pearl and former Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel how those fibs turned out for them. It's relatively unclear whether any NCAA rule in 2010 could prohibit a school from paying a recruiting service $1 million, much less $25,000. But it's crystal clear that in 2010, the NCAA rulebook forbade lying to the NCAA.

Maybe Lyles fulfilled the bulk of his order with video. For Oregon's sake, it had better not be video of the players profiled in the booklet. If Lyles indeed sent video of actual 2011 prospects from across the nation, then the Ducks must figure out exactly what he sent and present it to the NCAA and to the news organizations that have waited patiently for the school to fill legitimate open records requests. If they can do that, they have nothing to fear.

If that isn't the case, then Oregon needs a whopper of a story to explain all this. Timing limits Oregon's excuse parameters. The Register-Guard requested documents received between Feb. 1, 2010 and March 4, 2011. That only allows for a 22-day window between the receipt of any sample and the receipt of Lyles' invoice. (According to school records, Oregon paid in full on March 29, 2010.)

Things could get quite a bit messier if the Ducks claim the booklet released Monday is indeed part of what they purchased. If that's the case, Kelly and his coaches need to paint themselves as the most pathetic shoppers this side of Minnesota Timberwolves general manager David Kahn. They need to claim Lyles ripped them off and that they got too busy to ask for a refund. Then they need to pray NCAA investigators believe a shoddy, outdated, possibly plagiarized booklet is what Oregon actually bought.

[badger]

Oregon went from a mediocre program to running with the big dogs in fairly short order. Call me cynical, but whenever I see a program do that my first thought is someone has broke out the checkbook. And I don't mean just to buy updated facilities, fancy uniforms and the like...

Meh, Oregon has had a higher profile lately with their quackie uniforms, facility upgrade and coaching change and that's going to land them some quality players, cheating or not. If you put aside the northwestern weather issues, Oregon seems to be a quality institution to get an education from with passionate fans and a competitive program in their conference.

I am not ready to write them off as a big cheatie program quite yet (even if it'd make us all feel better about Refgate, or whatever, from 2006). The Ducks are largely a beneficiary of a few lucky circumstances:

1- USC got ban hammered by the NCAA, limiting schollys and postseason elgibility.

2- UCLA, the other traditional southern california powerhouse in the Pac-10ish, still sucks.

3- Cal, the other-other traditional southern cal powerhouse in the Pac-10ish, sucks too.

4- Stanford is a private academic school that can't recruit every footballer like a public, less academic school could.

5- Love you Mike Stoops, but Arizona is only on bowl eligible status, not conference contender (let alone nat'l title contender) status.

6- Arizona State, which used to be a Pac-10ish contender, sucks even though they probably shouldn't.

7- In-state rival Oregon State only gets lucky against them every so often, kind of like the Pokes used to against us.

8- Washington State, the team that actually won the Pac-10ish to play us in the Rose Bowl less than a decade ago, is a rotten apple of a program now.

9- Washington, their cross-state rival, was 0-fer a few years ago and just now is getting back to bowl eligibility... barely.

10- The new editions to the Pac-10ish, Utah and Colorado, will not huge competition recruit-wise or conference-wise for Oregon.

So yeah, the $25k for a single recruit is fishy, but a lot of their recent success has been luck.

[Eielson]

Utah to rule the Pac-10!

[badger]

Utah to rule the Pac-10!

Two rings for one Auburn title, how can that fly?
Seven from OU's past to set the tone,
Nine fakes for Bammer on a mythical high,
One (Big 12 South co-co-championship ring) for Dark Lord Pickens on his dark throne.

In the Land of Mordor where the Pac-12 lies,
One Utah to rule them all, One Utah to find them,
One Utah to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Pac-12 lies.

[texaspokieokie]

stick to polls.

[neilperry]

The cynic in me suggests the possibility that this "document" released by UO as the one they paid $25k for may not in fact be that document . . .[/B]

dingdingding. Now the mystery here is what did Oregon really pay $25,000 for?

[Mississippi Sooner]

Funny thing, Rivals.com said Lache Seastrunk has the chance to be the next Reggie Bush. :D

[Ruf/Nek7]

Did this Lyle's guy also help them land Lache Seastrunk?

[badger]

Funny thing, Rivals.com said Lache Seastrunk has the chance to be the next Reggie Bush. :D

Pete Carroll said the same thing to Joe McKnight... and Reggie Bush probably did too during the three-way call that McKnight later said never happened :P

[BoulderSooner79]

Joe McKnight may well have been the next Reggie Bush the way he bolted to the NFL when the NCAA started calling (cough, agent, cough).

[badger]

Joe McKnight may well have been the next Reggie Bush the way he bolted to the NFL when the NCAA started calling (cough, agent, cough).

It's the cycle for footballers now isn't it?

1- Athletic ability and school systems in general pass kid along with relatively no consequence for failure to learn academics starting at an early age.

2- College program lowers admissions standards and keeps athlete eligible through note takers, test takers and low accountability scheduling.

3- Hundred dollar handshakes, free meals and services for athlete and friends/family ties athlete to program to keep his mouth shut over obvious NCAA violations and no academic accountability.

4- Athlete, finding more value in the money he has received to play from boosters et al than in the academic education he is not receiving, plans to turn pro as soon as possible, regardless of draft stock.

5- Athlete may survive the average three-year span in NFL, but spent more money than he made during this time period.

6- Athlete finds out that he cannot begin to collect his pension until he is at an actual retirement-like age, which is not your late 20s, dummy.

7- Athlete blames public school and college for lack of education, NFL for lack of financial security and health insurance.

8- Up and coming athletes ignore cases like this, seeing themselves as an exception to the norm. Surely they will make millions in the NFL themselves and will never have financial plights. Who needs an education when you have athletic ability, boosters begging you to let them buy you stuff and a future as a pro athlete? Hello, friend and close confidant. I totally am too oblivious to be able to tell that you are an agent's runner.

[sooner ngintunr]

This whole thing stinks of violations.

[SoonerDan74012]

Did this Lyle's guy also help them land Lache Seastrunk?

Everything points to that being the case. Lyles would be classified as a booster even though he doesn't have any direct ties to the school. If you steer recruits to any school and receive any type of inducement that would classify as a major NCAA violation. The Albert Means scandal back in the mid to late nineties is a prime example of what Oregon is potentially looking at.