Meghan McCain's Advice for the GOP

[3rdgensooner]

Meghan McCain's 7 Tips for Republican Hopefuls
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/20/meghan-mccain-s-7-tips-for-mitt-romney-michele-bachmann-other-gop-presidential-hopefuls.html)
With last week's debate behind them, Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, and others have officially kicked off the race for the GOP presidential nomination. But do any of them have the chops to topple Obama in 2012? Meghan McCain offers seven tips on what they should do between now and then.

Dear Republican candidates running for president in 2012:

You are up against one of the most media-beloved presidents in history, one journalists will do almost anything to protect. You are running against a man who has created a cult following and a narrative that transcends popular culture. How is it possible that this is the best we’re doing so far?

Now, before we get too ahead of ourselves, it is the beginning of summer and not exactly in the fall fever of primary politics. But just like an awkward blind date, you need a good opening line. The average American can’t tell you the difference between Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/14/jon-huntsman-announces-2012-campaign-launch-date.html) (yet). Most young voters my age don't remember Newt Gingrich's claim to fame; after all, the Clinton impeachment trial was so ‘90s.

What the Republican Party needs is a candidate unafraid to put the president up against the wall and call him out on all the damage his administration has done, especially to the economy, in the last three years. Right now, we have a candidate who is afraid to confront his opponent during a debate and is more comfortable tweeting and arguing from the safety of Fox News. If Tim Pawlenty can’t confront Mitt Romney, he sure as hell can’t confront President Obama. The good news is that it’s still early—people aren’t tuning in the way that they will be in the fall, so there's still time to make this happen. Here are my seven tips for anyone who is running for president with the intention of winning the nomination and not to get a show on Fox News. If you simply want a show on Fox News or to be a flash-in-the-pan icon for the evangelical movement, please disregard everything I'm about to say.

Tip No. 1: So You Think You Can't Dance? That's OK. You are not cooler than President Obama. No, you are not. No, seriously, you are not, not even you, Sarah Palin—no matter how many motorcycles you jump on in a sexy leather jacket (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/26/sarah-palins-motorcycle-j_n_515407.html). Obama is the cool kid; let him be the cool kid. You should instead take on the role of the smart candidate, the serious candidate, the one who isn’t concerned about how well you dance on Ellen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4&feature=related). You should want to fix the economy and stop the bleeding that is going on in Washington. We are living in some of the most serious times this country has ever faced, and the next election can't turn into a popularity contest. At the end of the day, even if you are cooler than Obama, the media will never let you be cooler. This isn’t a battle you can win.

Tip No. 2: Sharpen Your Message. That means stop making confusing commercials. Don't use Fred Davis, the man responsible for viral political commercials such as this one (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/04/carly-fiorinas-demon-sheep.html). The infamous political ads like Carly Fiorina’s “Demon Sheep” and Christine O’Donnell’s “I Am Not a Witch” are so confusing, it's almost like they were paid for by Democrats. Stick to clear, concise messages. Do not use gimmicks. Gimmicks belong almost anyplace except a Republican presidential primary. You’re not trying to be cool, remember?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2011/06/20/meghan-mccain-s-7-tips-for-mitt-romney-michele-bachmann-other-gop-presidential-hopefuls/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.jpg/1308545912211.jpg

Tip No. 3: Forget About Iowa. You don’t need the Hawkeye State. You just don’t. Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are already making smart strategic moves by opting out of the caucus. Whatever historical or ideological relevance the Iowa caucus has will more than likely not get you to the White House, but it will probably get you a sweet gig at Fox News. Trust me on this one—you live and die in New Hampshire. If you’re a phony or can’t back up what you are saying, the people of New Hampshire will know it. Go there, campaign your *** off and tell the truth. Be a real person and show them who you really are and what you really believe. This process, more than anything, is about giving people something to believe in. Give these amazing citizens of New Hampshire a reason to believe in you.

Tip No 4: Be Prepared to Outlast Palin Fever. The big question is if Sarah Palin will decide to run for president. It's anyone's guess at this point, and I don't think even she knows the answer. If she enters the race, there will be a proverbial tsunami of media coverage for months. Don’t panic and ride it out. The cream always rises to the top and at some point she is going to have to do something other than come up with clever sound bites.

Tip No. 5: Take the Gloves Off. Don’t be afraid to call other candidates out on their selfish intentions. A lot of people run for the media attention and possible jobs and pay raises in their speaking tours. This election shouldn’t be about that. Tell Newt Gingrich that he’s wasting everyone's time.

Tip No. 6: Make Friends With Rachel Maddow. You’ve got to do interviews outside of Fox News. This isn't an option, you can't become president talking only to Greta Van Susteren.

And finally, Tip No. 7: This is the most important...forget the extreme right. You aren’t going to be their candidate anyway, Michele Bachmann is. Those people also wouldn’t vote for Obama if their life depended on it. Reach out to independents, women, and Republicans like me. The ones who struggle with feeling isolated in our own party. We will come out and support you with unbelievable enthusiasm if you don’t treat big-tent, socially liberal Republicans like us as a mutation in the original design. There isn’t anything wrong with Republicans like me, and trust me, there are a lot more of them out there than you realize, and some of them are just hitting voting age.

[MsProudSooner2]

She should have just started at #7 and forgotten the other 6.

[AlboSooner]

Does she and her dad or did she and her dad talk?

[bigfatjerk]

Sounds like she's saying vote for Ron Paul to me. He pretty much fits those criteria.

[landrun]

Meghan. The republicans followed these suggestion during the last election when we elected your daddy to run on our ticket. But somehow, the US isn't interested in these "don't tax me" liberals who make their way onto the conservative ticket.

You're wrong. True conservatism is the only hope the Republicans have. Not you liberal, bank bailout, amnesty etc... supporting liberals. You've been the downfall of the party. You're not the salvation. That's for certain.

[landrun]

I'd vote for Ron Paul. But I won't vote for her daddy or anyone like him. He's a yo-yo who seems to have inconsistent stands on different policies. And he's certainly not a fiscal conservative. Paul is a LEGIT fiscal conservative.

[jk the sooner fan]

ron paul is not electable - its a fantasy

[Whet]

Ron Paul = Pat Paulsen (in electability)

[the_ouskull]

Meghan McCain.

Would smash.

I'd post her Twitter pic that made me feel this way, but it may not be "board-safe."

[MelloYello]

Meghan McCain.

Would smash.


This.

[StoopTroup]

Pffffffffttttt............

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Meghan-McCain-Twitter-Photo-500x375.jpg

[GKeeper316]

i would wreck that chick.

[StoopTroup]

Meghan. The republicans followed these suggestion during the last election when we elected your daddy to run on our ticket. But somehow, the US isn't interested in these "don't tax me" liberals who make their way onto the conservative ticket.

You're wrong. True conservatism is the only hope the Republicans have. Not you liberal, bank bailout, amnesty etc... supporting liberals. You've been the downfall of the party. You're not the salvation. That's for certain.

It wasn't that....it was that most Americans saw how much more in love the GOP was with Palin than McCain. Just admit that he screwed up picking her to run as VP. He would have been better off with a Military General than her. Yeah she was likeable and she was vocal and maybe she even could have become a legitimate Candidate in her own right but the GOP is like John Stewart told Chris Wallace....they are in "Red Meat Mode" right now. They have been in RMM since Palin had the split with the McCain Campaign.

[BU BEAR]

Dear Meghan, if anyone put any stock in what you thought, then your own daddy would not have paid to have you not accompany him on the campaign trail.

[delhalew]

Democrats must love her.

[JohnnyMack]

Ron Paul is the best candidate to beat Obama, but he won't come close to sniffing the nomination. All of the other dip****s who took that stage in the CNN debate will get waxed by BHO. The last two hopes the R's have is in Perry and Christie. We're a soundbyte, MTV, ESPN highlight nation. For Odin's sake the debate moderator was asking for questions to be answered in 30 seconds or less. Our nation is about as cerebral as a bowl of pudding. Even though I don't have any interest in voting for Obama again, don't think for a second that he's super vulnerable right now.

[SicEmBaylor]

Remeber this:

Meghan McCain is not a conservative and does advocate conservative principles.-- she is a Republican Party whore. The neocon blood from her father flows deep within her veins.

Remember this as well:
The difference between the GOP and its candidate and the Democratic opposition is purely based on policy and not ideology. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

[SicEmBaylor]

Dear Meghan, if anyone put any stock in what you thought, then your own daddy would not have paid to have you not accompany him on the campaign trail.

This.

[MsProudSooner2]

Ron Paul = Pat Paulsen (in electability)

Pat Paulsen might have the edge.

[mgsooner]

i would wreck that chick.

I would too, provided my BAC was above .20...

[picasso]

She's not real bright.

[mgsooner]

fat chicks with big boobs are a dime a million

[MelloYello]

She's got a little cushion for the pushin', but definitely not fat.

http://en.nkfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/meghan-mccain-2.jpg

[StoopTroup]

Remeber this:

Meghan McCain is not a conservative and does advocate conservative principles.-- she is a Republican Party whore. The neocon blood from her father flows deep within her veins.

Remember this as well:
The difference between the GOP and its candidate and the Democratic opposition is purely based on policy and not ideology. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

You'd eat that poon and be married Vegas Style by morning so gimme me a break.....lol

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Remeber this:

Meghan McCain is not a conservative and does advocate conservative principles.-- she is a Republican Party whore. The neocon blood from her father flows deep within her veins.

Remember this as well:
The difference between the GOP and its candidate and the Democratic opposition is purely based on policy and not ideology. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.Remember this as well: Simple basic math is all it takes to know that if there's a 3rd partyite or independent perceived as conservative, we get 4 more yrs of full steam ahead democrat/socialist/ authoritarian government.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Well RLIMC, I got great news for you if Romney(Or Palin, Or Anyone else really) gets elected we get 4 more years of full steam ahead Republican/Socialist/Authoritarian Government

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Well RLIMC, I got great news for you if Romney(Or Palin, Or Anyone else really) gets elected we get 4 more years of full steam ahead Republican/Socialist/Authoritarian GovernmentYou giving up on the country?

[SicEmBaylor]

Well RLIMC, I got great news for you if Romney(Or Palin, Or Anyone else really) gets elected we get 4 more years of full steam ahead Republican/Socialist/Authoritarian Government

This is exactly right. 100% EXACTLY right.

[SicEmBaylor]

You giving up on the country?

You should never give up on the country and our revolutionary principles;however, I have most certainly given up on the peope in this country and their abiity to elect individuals who defend those revolutionary priciples.

I have absolutely no faith in people.

[bigfatjerk]

Remember this as well:
The difference between the GOP and its candidate and the Democratic opposition is purely based on policy and not ideology. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
And it's really not even that much policy.

[MR2-Sooner86]

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Yeah, I'd have fun with that, especially in the giving of the facial.

As for her article, it sucked. The only point she made was the last one. The Republican Party will never go mainstream until they ditch the radical Christian-right portion that's dragging the party down.

Rick Perry for instance did not sign a bill where it'd be illegal to text and drive because he thought the government "didn't have that authority." What he did do is sign a bill requiring every single woman who gets an abortion to get a sonogram first.

That's the problem with Republicans they scream "SMALL GOVERNMENT" until it comes to...
- "protecting" heterosexual marriage by banning gay marriage
- telling people what they can and cannot put into their bodies and to "Just Say No"
- spying on your phone calls and emails to "keep the terrorist from winning"
- being anti-choice A.K.A. pro-life then turn around and support state sanctioned murder
- funding abstinence only education
- telling people what they cannot use their money to play a game of chance, gambling
- telling a woman she can't use her body for business if she wishes
- having the FBI create a anti-obscenity squad to look at porn

[bigfatjerk]

The only Republicans to win since the Goldwater era ran on far right Christian type campaigns. Even Bush his first term and kinda his second term ran on that. When Bush first ran he ran on a small military role type campaign. Then 9/11 happened.

[bigfatjerk]

I'm a libertarian so I'm different I guess
- "protecting" heterosexual marriage by banning gay marriage
I'm for gay marriage but I think marriage should be up to churches and the government should be out of it completely.

- telling people what they can and cannot put into their bodies and to "Just Say No"
I'm for some Just Say No type campaigns for kids. That's not that bad a deal to me. But I'm against the war on drugs completely.

- spying on your phone calls and emails to "keep the terrorist from winning"
This is something both sides don't really care about right now. The Patriot Act was a big mistake.
- being anti-choice A.K.A. pro-life then turn around and support state sanctioned murder
I think there are cases where abortion is right, just like I think there are cases where the death penalty is right. But a person that kills people loses their rights. A baby can't make those choices. There's a big difference there. I think abortion is murder, just like some cases where killing in self defense is okay, there's cases where abortion can be acceptable. But it's never right.

- funding abstinence only education
This should be the first thing talked about when talking about sex, not the only thing though. You can talk about protection all you want but that's pretty much promoting kids to have sex. Which will lead to STDs/teenage pregnancy.

- telling people what they cannot use their money to play a game of chance, gambling
And this is a both sides issue again. Dems aren't really pro gambling either. People should use their money how they want as long as they have the ability to choose or they have the money.

- telling a woman she can't use her body for business if she wishes

I think that there's some problems here because pimps basically use women as sex slaves, and of course STDs so I can understand why this is illegal. But this also isn't a left or right issue. Harry Reid recently went after his own state for legalizing prostitution.

- having the FBI create a anti-obscenity squad to look at porn
I can understand going after child pornography. But I'm for pretty much getting rid of the FBI.

[JohnnyMack]

The only point she made was the last one. The Republican Party will never go mainstream until they ditch the radical Christian-right portion that's dragging the party down.

Well the good news is that Ralph Reed is back pulling strings in the Republican party. Wait. What?

[MR2-Sooner86]

I'm a libertarian so I'm different I guess

We're different but we're also the only ones who are right ;)


- "protecting" heterosexual marriage by banning gay marriage
I'm for gay marriage but I think marriage should be up to churches and the government should be out of it completely.

Agreed, it's a religious ceremony, nothing more. If you look at a marriage license, is there any mention of a god or Jesus Christ? No.


- telling people what they can and cannot put into their bodies and to "Just Say No"
I'm for some Just Say No type campaigns for kids. That's not that bad a deal to me. But I'm against the war on drugs completely. It doesn't work. Just like I think kids should be educated on sex I also think the best way to keep STDs from happening is ultimately through not having sex as long as possible.

I agree that it should be kept out of the hands of kids but like alcohol and cigarettes some will get it. People like to feel good and you can't legislate that.

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- spying on your phone calls and emails to "keep the terrorist from winning"
This is something both sides don't really care about right now. The Patriot Act was a big mistake.

It really was. Don't say that though or else you might be labelled as a terrorist sympathizer.


- being anti-choice A.K.A. pro-life then turn around and support state sanctioned murder
I think there are cases where abortion is right, just like I think there are cases where the death penalty is right. But a person that kills people loses their rights. A baby can't make those choices. There's a big difference there. I think abortion is murder, just like some cases where killing in self defense is okay, there's cases where abortion can be acceptable. But it's never right.

On abortion, I'm against partial birth, second, and third terms. As for the first term, I really have no idea. I know it's law that you can get one, it isn't changing anytime soon. So why do Republicans pass all these laws with sonograms and such when we have more important things like the economy?

As for the death penalty, some people are alive simply because it's illegal to kill them. The thing is, giving the government the power to kill is allot of power I don't trust them with.


- funding abstinence only education
This should be the first thing talked about when talking about sex, not the only thing though. You can talk about protection all you want but that's pretty much promoting kids to have sex. Which will lead to STDs/teenage pregnancy.

I agree however there is funding for abstinence only. They don't go over how to use a condom or address any issues students may have with sex. All they do is go, "sex is evil, wait until marriage, or you're going to Hell."


- telling people what they cannot use their money to play a game of chance, gambling
And this is a both sides issue again. Dems aren't really pro gambling either. People should use their money how they want as long as they have the ability to choose or they have the money.

I know both sides are against it but I've seen the moral argument from the Republicans.


- telling a woman she can't use her body for business if she wishes

I think that there's some problems here because pimps basically use women as sex slaves, and of course STDs so I can understand why this is illegal. But this also isn't a left or right issue. Harry Reid recently went after his own state for legalizing prostitution.

The thing is in states where it's legal, there are no pimps or abused women. The places where you can go are visited by the health department, all the women get tested monthly, there's security for 'out of control' guest, and it takes all the danger out. It's just like any other business.

The danger from prostitution comes from it being illegal. It's like the War on Drugs. If you take something underground, then all sorts of dangers are going to arise.


- having the FBI create a anti-obscenity squad to look at porn
I can understand going after child pornography. But I'm for pretty much getting rid of the FBI.

I got that information about an article of George W. Bush making the anti-obscenity squad. The thing is, they didn't just go after child pornography. They were looking at all types of pornography.

While it is bad, I think the government has better things to do. I mean we already know areas with higher access to pornography have less cases of rape.

[pphilfran]

You'd eat that poon and be married Vegas Style by morning so gimme me a break.....lol

He is so small he would fall in, never to be heard from again....

[TIMB0B]

ron paul is not electable - its a fantasy

Are you republican? If so, quit believing this jargon, and start spreading his message. This country is on the verge of a complete financial collapse, and Ron Paul is the only legit candidate right now that will get us out. We got into this mess because people voted for Ds or Rs and not principles. Another establishment republican, or obama, will be this country's undoing.

[delhalew]

A vote for anyone other than Paul, is a vote for failure.

[crawfish]

ron paul is not electable - its a fantasy

Agreed. He's far too honest, and the powers-that-be know that he'd actually attempt to fulfill his campaign promises. He's toast.

[crawfish]

If you don't want to waste your vote, go for the next guy who won't be realistically discernible from the last few presidents.

[delhalew]

Allen West is a bad *** mofo. Just saying.

[StoopTroup]

He is so small he would fall in, never to be heard from again....

She might like a smaller girlish framed guy with a scooter. :D ;)

[StoopTroup]

It is amazing that we are taught about how free we are as children only to find out that the real freedom we have can only happen if we are blessed with a family Inheritance so large that our Attorneys can protect our freedom.

[Mississippi Sooner]

It is amazing that we are taught about how free we are as children only to find out that the real freedom we have can only happen if we are blessed with a family Inheritance so larg that our Attorneys can protect our freedom.

Plus, just think of all the beer she's gonna inherit.

[The Maestro]

A vote for anyone other than Paul, is a vote for failure.

Starting to believe this. If you hate big government this is the choice you have to support and believe in. Thinking the Romney's and Perry's of the world are anything BUT big government is being a sucker of the greatest variety. At least the Dem's admit it.

[silverwheels]

Paul is the only person I'd vote for next year from either party. Too bad he won't get the nomination and Oklahoma's ballot system SUCKS.


And yes, I'd take Meghan McCain to Poundtown.

[The Maestro]

I wonder what would happen if people who like Paul would stop saying he can't get elected and started saying, "YES WE CAN!"

Oh, wait...

[delhalew]

I'd love to **** slap the next person to claim Paul is unelectable.

[MR2-Sooner86]

Ron Paul is unelectable.

[Mississippi Sooner]

Who is Ron Paul?

[MR2-Sooner86]

Who is Ron Paul?

Some crazy old guy trying to be a Republican. I think he was a Liberaltarian at one point.

[Mississippi Sooner]

Some crazy old guy trying to be a Republican. I think he was a Liberaltarian at one point.

He doesn't sound electable at all.

[delhalew]

Why you!!! I'll get you!

[soonercoop1]

Meghan McCain is pretty much irrelevant...:)

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Meghan McCain is pretty much irrelevant...:)I dunno. To the MSM, she's a "good" republican, like her dad, Arlen Specter(now former republican)and Lindsay Graham.

[TIMB0B]

Some crazy old guy trying to be a Republican. I think he was a Liberaltarian at one point.


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[Pants]

I'm a Ron Paul supporter.

[delhalew]

I'm a Ron Paul supporter.

You and anyone not content with rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[BU BEAR]

I dunno. To the MSM, she's a "good" republican, like her dad, Arlen Specter(now former republican)and Lindsay Graham.

Arlen Specter is Meghan McCain's father? This stuff is getting weird.

[StoopTroup]

Here Arlen talks about someone's ***. Not sure who's though....

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[soonercruiser]

Meghan McCain's 7 Tips for Republican Hopefuls
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/20/meghan-mccain-s-7-tips-for-mitt-romney-michele-bachmann-other-gop-presidential-hopefuls.html)
With last week's debate behind them, Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, and others have officially kicked off the race for the GOP presidential nomination. But do any of them have the chops to topple Obama in 2012? Meghan McCain offers seven tips on what they should do between now and then.

Dear Republican candidates running for president in 2012:

You are up against one of the most media-beloved presidents in history, one journalists will do almost anything to protect. You are running against a man who has created a cult following and a narrative that transcends popular culture. How is it possible that this is the best we’re doing so far?

Now, before we get too ahead of ourselves, it is the beginning of summer and not exactly in the fall fever of primary politics. But just like an awkward blind date, you need a good opening line. The average American can’t tell you the difference between Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/14/jon-huntsman-announces-2012-campaign-launch-date.html) (yet). Most young voters my age don't remember Newt Gingrich's claim to fame; after all, the Clinton impeachment trial was so ‘90s.

What the Republican Party needs is a candidate unafraid to put the president up against the wall and call him out on all the damage his administration has done, especially to the economy, in the last three years. Right now, we have a candidate who is afraid to confront his opponent during a debate and is more comfortable tweeting and arguing from the safety of Fox News. If Tim Pawlenty can’t confront Mitt Romney, he sure as hell can’t confront President Obama. The good news is that it’s still early—people aren’t tuning in the way that they will be in the fall, so there's still time to make this happen. Here are my seven tips for anyone who is running for president with the intention of winning the nomination and not to get a show on Fox News. If you simply want a show on Fox News or to be a flash-in-the-pan icon for the evangelical movement, please disregard everything I'm about to say.

Tip No. 1: So You Think You Can't Dance? That's OK. You are not cooler than President Obama. No, you are not. No, seriously, you are not, not even you, Sarah Palin—no matter how many motorcycles you jump on in a sexy leather jacket (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/26/sarah-palins-motorcycle-j_n_515407.html). Obama is the cool kid; let him be the cool kid. You should instead take on the role of the smart candidate, the serious candidate, the one who isn’t concerned about how well you dance on Ellen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4&feature=related). You should want to fix the economy and stop the bleeding that is going on in Washington. We are living in some of the most serious times this country has ever faced, and the next election can't turn into a popularity contest. At the end of the day, even if you are cooler than Obama, the media will never let you be cooler. This isn’t a battle you can win.

Tip No. 2: Sharpen Your Message. That means stop making confusing commercials. Don't use Fred Davis, the man responsible for viral political commercials such as this one (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/04/carly-fiorinas-demon-sheep.html). The infamous political ads like Carly Fiorina’s “Demon Sheep” and Christine O’Donnell’s “I Am Not a Witch” are so confusing, it's almost like they were paid for by Democrats. Stick to clear, concise messages. Do not use gimmicks. Gimmicks belong almost anyplace except a Republican presidential primary. You’re not trying to be cool, remember?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2011/06/20/meghan-mccain-s-7-tips-for-mitt-romney-michele-bachmann-other-gop-presidential-hopefuls/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.jpg/1308545912211.jpg

Tip No. 3: Forget About Iowa. You don’t need the Hawkeye State. You just don’t. Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are already making smart strategic moves by opting out of the caucus. Whatever historical or ideological relevance the Iowa caucus has will more than likely not get you to the White House, but it will probably get you a sweet gig at Fox News. Trust me on this one—you live and die in New Hampshire. If you’re a phony or can’t back up what you are saying, the people of New Hampshire will know it. Go there, campaign your *** off and tell the truth. Be a real person and show them who you really are and what you really believe. This process, more than anything, is about giving people something to believe in. Give these amazing citizens of New Hampshire a reason to believe in you.

Tip No 4: Be Prepared to Outlast Palin Fever. The big question is if Sarah Palin will decide to run for president. It's anyone's guess at this point, and I don't think even she knows the answer. If she enters the race, there will be a proverbial tsunami of media coverage for months. Don’t panic and ride it out. The cream always rises to the top and at some point she is going to have to do something other than come up with clever sound bites.

Tip No. 5: Take the Gloves Off. Don’t be afraid to call other candidates out on their selfish intentions. A lot of people run for the media attention and possible jobs and pay raises in their speaking tours. This election shouldn’t be about that. Tell Newt Gingrich that he’s wasting everyone's time.

Tip No. 6: Make Friends With Rachel Maddow. You’ve got to do interviews outside of Fox News. This isn't an option, you can't become president talking only to Greta Van Susteren.

And finally, Tip No. 7: This is the most important...forget the extreme right. You aren’t going to be their candidate anyway, Michele Bachmann is. Those people also wouldn’t vote for Obama if their life depended on it. Reach out to independents, women, and Republicans like me. The ones who struggle with feeling isolated in our own party. We will come out and support you with unbelievable enthusiasm if you don’t treat big-tent, socially liberal Republicans like us as a mutation in the original design. There isn’t anything wrong with Republicans like me, and trust me, there are a lot more of them out there than you realize, and some of them are just hitting voting age.

Tip #8 - Ignore Meghan McCain's Advice
Her daddy taught her everthing she doesn't know!

Who's Ron Paul? :P

[SicEmBaylor]

Who's Ron Paul? :P

I'm probably reading way too much into this, but is this question a real world version of "Who is Jon Galt?"

If so, well played sir!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Arlen Specter is Meghan McCain's father? This stuff is getting weird.Are you familiar with commas?(although, after rereading my post, I suppose I can understand why you might think it was meant the way you construed it)

[DIB]

I love when people ignore good advice, because they don't like the person giving it. If Huckabee had posted the same thing, you people would be fawning over it.

1) Don't try to be cooler than Obama
2) Sharpen your message
3) Focus on New Hampshire
4) Outlast Palin Fever
5) Don't be afraid to call out your opponents
6) Broaden your media focus
7) Focus on moderates and independents

The funny thing is that Ron Paul is already doing all those things, even #7. Establishment Republicans are going to keep telling us that he isn't electable, because they fear that he will stop their big government gravy train.

http://www.victorystore.com/ron_paul/images/ron_paul_revolution_sign.jpg

[BU BEAR]

Q: How do you spell unelectable in Texian?

A: Ron Paul.

[NormanPride]

Who is spreading the propaganda that he isn't electable? Just listen to people... It's like there's some mind control thing out there. "I really like the guy, but he's unelectable." "Me, too! I agree with a lot he has to say, but I just don't think he's going to get elected"

This is amazingly stupid. If everyone likes him, then he is the MOST electable.

[DIB]

Who is spreading the propaganda that he isn't electable? Just listen to people... It's like there's some mind control thing out there. "I really like the guy, but he's unelectable." "Me, too! I agree with a lot he has to say, but I just don't think he's going to get elected"

This is amazingly stupid. If everyone likes him, then he is the MOST electable.

The establishment republicans hope that if they keep saying it over and over again, then it will trick us into voting for another one of their cookie cutter candidates.

[The Profit]

I love when people ignore good advice, because they don't like the person giving it. If Huckabee had posted the same thing, you people would be fawning over it.

1) Don't try to be cooler than Obama
2) Sharpen your message
3) Focus on New Hampshire
4) Outlast Palin Fever
5) Don't be afraid to call out your opponents
6) Broaden your media focus
7) Focus on moderates and independents

The funny thing is that Ron Paul is already doing all those things, even #7. Establishment Republicans are going to keep telling us that he isn't electable, because they fear that he will stop their big government gravy train.

http://www.victorystore.com/ron_paul/images/ron_paul_revolution_sign.jpg




You've got to find another candidate. That old fart doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. Television plays a great role in electing presidents, and Ron Paul has the physical appearance made for radio. Unfortunately, no one listens to the radio. Find a 21st century Libertarian, who is not a proven racist, and is also pro-choice and he might have a chance.

[CrimsonCream]

You've got to find another candidate. That old fart doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. Television plays a great role in electing presidents, and Ron Paul has the physical appearance made for radio. Unfortunately, no one listens to the radio. Find a 21st century Libertarian, who is not a proven racist, and is also pro-choice and he might have a chance.

Sh!t, Profit. Second time today I've agreed with you.

[TIMB0B]

You've got to find another candidate. That old fart doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. Television plays a great role in electing presidents, and Ron Paul has the physical appearance made for radio. Unfortunately, no one listens to the radio. Find a 21st century Libertarian, who is not a proven racist, and is also pro-choice and he might have a chance.

If you had to choose a repub, who would you choose?

[The Profit]

If you had to choose a repub, who would you choose?




Ron Paul

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Ron Paulwhy?

[NormanPride]

Who else in the whole field has any real drive to change the cycle we're in?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Who else in the whole field has any real drive to change the cycle we're in?That might be, but I doubt Profit wants him as the R candidate for that reason.

[BU BEAR]

Who is spreading the propaganda that he isn't electable?

Ron Paul did not win a single state in the 2008 Republican primary. People may like him, but they do not vote for him. That is why he is unelectable.

[JohnnyMack]

why?

You want Michelle Bachmann to get the nod. You're just too much of a chicken**** to admit it publicly.

[NormanPride]

Ron Paul did not win a single state in the 2008 Republican primary. People may like him, but they do not vote for him. That is why he is unelectable.
That means nothing to me. Paul's campaign that year was lovingly referred to as "grassroots". It seems he is taking it a bit more seriously now.

[bigfatjerk]

Ron Paul did not win a single state in the 2008 Republican primary. People may like him, but they do not vote for him. That is why he is unelectable.
Republicans didn't have a tea party back then either which is based a lot of his fiscal views I bet he wins some states. I hope he wins the general election. He won't win Iowa.

[DIB]

Republicans didn't have a tea party back then either which is based a lot of his fiscal views I bet he wins some states. I hope he wins the general election. He won't win Iowa.

Bending to the political whims of Iowa is one of the things that has damaged this country. Big Corn has surpassed Big Oil and the Unions as the most evil lobby in this country.

[bigfatjerk]

I agree but it's the first so people take a lot from that. If he finishes in the top 5 or so in Iowa he has a real good shot to win it.

[silverwheels]

Who is spreading the propaganda that he isn't electable? Just listen to people... It's like there's some mind control thing out there. "I really like the guy, but he's unelectable." "Me, too! I agree with a lot he has to say, but I just don't think he's going to get elected"

This is amazingly stupid. If everyone likes him, then he is the MOST electable.

Too many people watch Fox News, which is a huge problem.

[The Profit]

why?




I think he is a true Libertarian. He is not one of those bible banging right winged crazies like Bachmann, Palin or Santorium. If any of those nuts was ever elected president, it would be time to pack up everything and find another place to live. They would attempt to take America back to the 50's, and that would be disastrous.

I think Paul has feigned a little conservative during the first two debates on topics like abortion, gay marriage, etc., but, if elected, I think he would spend a second of his time worrying about those silly issues.

If this country is to succeed in the future, it is going to have to eliminate the military industrial complex, which Paul would, at least, attempt to do. But, he should be warned that others have tried it, and have been unsuccessful. John Kennedy tried it, and it probably cost him his life.

As much as I like many of the things that Paul has said, I still do not think he has a chance to win. With that said, I would hope that the GOP would nominate one of its crazies. Obama would beat them like a redheaded stepchild.

[The Profit]

Too many people watch Fox News, which is a huge problem.




Not many normal people watch Fox.

[silverwheels]

Not many normal people watch Fox.

LOL. Good point.

[The Profit]

That might be, but I doubt Profit wants him as the R candidate for that reason.




You would be wrong. As I posted earlier, I would support Ron Paul if he gained the GOP nomination. I would vote for him over Obama as long as he promised, during the general election campaign, to be pro-choice and to dismantle the military industrial complex. Of course, he can't do that during the primaries, and I understand that.

[bigfatjerk]

Not many normal people watch Fox.

I don't really watch any of the news much anymore because there isn't any news on any of them. It's all opinion anymore. I pretty much watch Reason.TV, Catoinstitute and a few other sites for my opinion stuff. Brett Biaer Special Report for the news for the first 40 minutes. Don't really watch FoxNews that much more outside of maybe Cavuto sometimes or if Stossel is on. Don't really watch any MSNBC or CNN anymore.

[SoonerStormchaser]

http://www.micklanders.com/pictures/2009/04/meg16.jpg
http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/motivator-meghan-mccain-duct-tape-small.jpg

[soonercoop1]

Not many normal people watch Fox.

So what do normal people watch?

[soonercoop1]

I dunno. To the MSM, she's a "good" republican, like her dad, Arlen Specter(now former republican)and Lindsay Graham.

Usual liberal/progressive media facade...push the moderate as they know the moderate always loses...

[bigfatjerk]

Usual liberal/progressive media facade...push the moderate as they know the moderate always loses...

The last time a true conservative lost an election was nearly 50 years ago with Goldwater. Every time a far right guy runs a far right election he wins. Bush the first time around won. He ran to the right even though is policies were to the left the second time around too and won. Bush Sr ran to the right the first time and won, ran to the middle the 2nd time around and lost. Reagan ran to the far right and won big both times. Ford ran as a moderate and lost. The last time a moderate republican won was Nixon.

[The Profit]

So what do normal people watch?




Something other than the 24 hour news cycle, and I'm including Libs, who watch MSNBC.

Isn't 30 minutes of horrible local news and 30 minutes of prescription-sponsored national network news enough for one day.

[The Profit]

The last time a true conservative lost an election was nearly 50 years ago with Goldwater. Every time a far right guy runs a far right election he wins. Bush the first time around won. He ran to the right even though is policies were to the left the second time around too and won. Bush Sr ran to the right the first time and won, ran to the middle the 2nd time around and lost. Reagan ran to the far right and won big both times. Ford ran as a moderate and lost. The last time a moderate republican won was Nixon.




Then nominate either Santorium, the witch from Minnesota, or even another Texan and see what happens.

[3rdgensooner]

Am I the last one to know that Bachmann got her law degree at ORU?

[bigfatjerk]

Then nominate either Santorium, the witch from Minnesota, or even another Texan and see what happens.

Santorium is fairly moderate. He's basically McCain from what I can tell.

Bachman is more talk than actual beliefs I think. But I can't really tell half the time.

Whoever wins the republican nomination has a good shot because Obama has no shot to win any south states. It'll come down to North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, and Pennsylvania.

[olevetonahill]

If this country is to succeed in the future, it is going to have to eliminate the military industrial complex, which Paul would, at least, attempt to do. But, he should be warned that others have tried it, and have been unsuccessful. John Kennedy tried it, and it probably cost him his life.


Dude you are all wrapped up in conspiracy aint ya

I'll bet ya think GW was involved with JFKs assaination:rolleyes:

[soonercoop1]

Then nominate either Santorium, the witch from Minnesota, or even another Texan and see what happens.

Perry would win in a landslide...conservatives always win...

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Santorium is fairly moderate. He's basically McCain from what I can tell.

Bachman is more talk than actual beliefs I think. But I can't really tell half the time.

Whoever wins the republican nomination has a good shot because Obama has no shot to win any south states. It'll come down to North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, and Pennsylvania.Why do you think Santorum is a moderate? Why do you think Bachman doesn't believe what she says?

[SicEmBaylor]

Am I the last one to know that Bachmann got her law degree at ORU?

I didn't even know ORU had a law school.

That's scary. I imagine they have a class on the proper legal procedures for trying and prosecuting witches.

[bigfatjerk]

Why do you think Santorum is a moderate? Why do you think Bachman doesn't believe what she says?
Because of how she's voted in the past. Not more recently really but before the tea party she was pretty much a moderate voter. Santorium seems too much like the anti Ron Paul to me which is basically a social conservative but fiscal liberal. So more or less a moderate to me. This is only from his debates though.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I didn't even know ORU had a law school.

That's scary. I imagine they have a class on the proper legal procedures for trying and prosecuting witches.What do the Baptists say is the best way to do that?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Because of how she's voted in the past. Not more recently really but before the tea party she was pretty much a moderate voter. Santorium seems too much like the anti Ron Paul to me which is basically a social conservative but fiscal liberal. So more or less a moderate to me. This is only from his debates though.I don't believe you've paid close attention to either Santorum or Bachman. You should start, since they are 2 of the most conservative people running.

[NormanPride]

How do you define conservative?

[SicEmBaylor]

Santorum is a big government religous fanatic who will use the power of the Federal government to advance a dogmatic Christian agenda. He's a scary dude.

Bachman is a poser. Her vote for the PatAct extension is evidence enough of that.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who believes in a limited constitutional government and individual liberty. More importantly, his career reflects his principles.

[NormanPride]

I'd vote for SicEm in a heartbeat.

[bigfatjerk]

If you look at the record Paul is the most conservative overall. Even some of the things seen as liberal like his stands against the drug war and against war in general, are based off his fiscal conservative point of view. And until the Cold War era conservatives were always more anti war than democrats. Democrats weren't anti war at all till the 60s or 70s.

But Paul is pro life, mostly because of his work as a doctor taking care of babies and pregnancies. He's very religious, goes to church every week, Socially he's probably the most conservative man in the race. He just believe the government doesn't have any business telling the individual what to do.

[NormanPride]

And that's why I don't care about his racist, hateful past. Because I have faith that, were he in power, he would not act on those positions because he would not believe he would have the right.

[bigfatjerk]

I don't get where you see him as racist? Because some of his followers were racist? If that's the case then Obama is racist because I'm sure the black panther types that are racist all voted for him.

[NormanPride]

Wasn't he a leader in the KKK? Or am I thinking of someone else?

[NormanPride]

Looking it up now, I can only find where he's supported by the KKK. MY BAD.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Wasn't he a leader in the KKK? Or am I thinking of someone else?haha!...YEEHAAW!

[bigfatjerk]

You are thinking of Bob Byrd from the democrat party. As far as I know no republican has ever served any national position and was a member of the KKK. Two democrats have. Bob Byrd and Hugo Black who went on to be on the Supreme Court.

There's rumors of others being in the KKK. But no others are substantiated as those two are.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I'd vote for SicEm in a heartbeat.Vote Orange Juice Can, R, Anywhere USA, or you will get Obummer again, ma fren.

[bigfatjerk]

Looking it up now, I can only find where he's supported by the KKK. MY BAD.

I doubt that. You are thinking of some of his supporters that were KKK supporters. He pretty much just ignores any question that ever comes about him being a racist or things like that so it seems like he's just avoiding the questions that are just absurd. There's nothing he's ever said or on his record that says he supported the KKK or any racist organization.

Again if you think being supported by racist makes you evil the democrat party has a lot to explain in it's history. The KKK was a support for the democrat party in the south for a long span of time.

[I Am Right]

Whine, Whine, Whine

[I Am Right]

I though to be a diva, you have to be able to sing?

[DIB]

The only "racist" stance he has taken is that he felt that the federal government over stepped its authority with the Civil Rights Acts. His opponents have tried to use that to prove that he is a racist.

[DIB]

Because of how she's voted in the past. Not more recently really but before the tea party she was pretty much a moderate voter. Santorium seems too much like the anti Ron Paul to me which is basically a social conservative but fiscal liberal. So more or less a moderate to me. This is only from his debates though.

The worst of both worlds

[MR2-Sooner86]

You've got to find another candidate. That old fart doesn't have a chance in hell to be elected. Television plays a great role in electing presidents, and Ron Paul has the physical appearance made for radio. Unfortunately, no one listens to the radio. Find a 21st century Libertarian, who is not a proven racist, and is also pro-choice and he might have a chance.

He's not made for TV? This is the President we're talking about, not American Idol.

As for the racism claims in the newsletter that has been gone over.

Also, you're talking out both sides of your mouth calling him an old fart and he can't win yet you say you'd support him.


I would support Ron Paul if he gained the GOP nomination. I would vote for him over Obama as long as he promised, during the general election campaign, to be pro-choice and to dismantle the military industrial complex. Of course, he can't do that during the primaries, and I understand that.

As for the pro-choice, are you a single issue voter? Would you toss away a chance to fix the country because it'd be harder to get an abortion? Sounds exactly like the idiots on the View.

His stance on abortion comes from him delivering over 4,000 children so I can see where he comes from whether or not I agree with it.

Here is his argument.

"I am legally responsible for the unborn, no matter what I do, so there’s a legal life there. The unborn has inheritance rights, and if there’s an injury or a killing, there is a legal entity. There is no doubt about it."

He does make somewhat of a point.

[SicEmBaylor]

The only "racist" stance he has taken is that he felt that the federal government over stepped its authority with the Civil Rights Acts. His opponents have tried to use that to prove that he is a racist.

They said the same thing about Goldwater. AuH2O didn't have a racist bone in his body.

[MR2-Sooner86]

Santorum is a big government religous fanatic who will use the power of the Federal government to advance a dogmatic Christian agenda. He's a scary dude.

I see him and I think he likes the idea from Demolition Man where if you say a curse word you get fined for "violating the verbal morality stature."

[SpankyNek]

Really, it's not us dirty libs that need to be persuaded to vote for Ron Paul...there are many of us that respect his Libertarian stances. He must convince the Republicans to give up their moral hang ups that go along with his platform and get the nomination.

If they don't, and there's a 3rd party candidate, Obama has already won.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Really, it's not us dirty libs that need to be persuaded to vote for Ron Paul...there are many of us that respect his Libertarian stances. He must convince the Republicans to give up their moral hang ups that go along with his platform and get the nomination.

If they don't, and there's a 3rd party candidate, Obama has already won.IMO he would draw more votes from those registered as R than would John Huntsman or Newtie.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The worst of both worldsHow is santorum a fiscal liberal?

[TIMB0B]

E4JDyTohHr4

[DIB]

How is santorum a fiscal liberal?

a big government conservative is just a fiscal liberal in disguise

[SicEmBaylor]

How is santorum a fiscal liberal?

Please, let me answer this one...

Rick Santorum was the biggest advocate of Bush's "compassionate conseevative" programs in the Senate including but not limited to the medicare prescription drug and faith based initiative programs along with the billions to fight aids in Africa.

Is that enough billions in taxpayer money to convince you or do you want to continue as if the guy is actually fiscally responsible.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

a big government conservative is just a fiscal liberal in disguise1)how is Santorum Big Govt? Are you saying he's neo-con, and that makes him Big Govt.?
2)Rather have Obumblephk than Santorum? If so, IMO, and with all due respect, that's nonsense.

[bigfatjerk]

Neocons in nature are big government already. They want to fund the military infrastructure and keep the big spending going. But really I don't see him any different than Bush or Romney and a few others that will just keep supporting their big companies and continue supporting the status quo which won't work. I don't see enough of a difference between Obama and Santorum to really vote one over the other.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I don't see enough of a difference between Obama and Santorum to really vote one over the other.That my friend, is absolute LUNACY!!!

[SicEmBaylor]

That my friend, is absolute LUNACY!!!

No, it's absolute reality. It's only lunacy in your "Anyone but Obama" world-ciew.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

No, it's absolute reality. It's only lunacy in your "Anyone but Obama" world-ciew.Your view on voting is child-like, and unfathomable for someone as bright as you.

[delhalew]

E4JDyTohHr4

Has that man ever evaded a question, or been anything other than crystal clear about his stance on an issue? EVAR...

He is certainly correct in saying that there is Ron Paul and a bunch of establishment candidates. Voting should always be so easy.

[delhalew]

Your view on voting is child-like, and unfathomable for someone as bright as you.

I see Sic'em saying that a vote for a Big Gub'ment Big Spender with a R beside his name is no better the same with a D beside his name. We are past the point of being able to get away with splitting hairs here friend.

Moderates need to defy the nature of a moderate and realize that the status quo is a death sentence.

The WARFARE state is just as harmful as the WELFARE state. An R next to a name is not sufficient to save our nation. Better than a D? Most likely, but it's completely irrelevant if our course remains the same.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Has that man ever evaded a question, or been anything other than crystal clear about his stance on an issue? EVAR...

He is certainly correct in saying that there is Ron Paul and a bunch of establishment candidates. Voting should always be so easy.Some here are saying or insinuating that if their candidate doesn't win the primary, they will sit on their hands, or vote 3rd party, and allow Obear or Hillry to complete their mission of transformation. Hard to believe they're serious.

[StoopTroup]

So is the Ann Coulter deal the 2nd War?

[TIMB0B]

Some here are saying or insinuating that if their candidate doesn't win the primary, they will sit on their hands, or vote 3rd party, and allow Obear or Hillry to complete their mission of transformation. Hard to believe they're serious.

Well, thinking in terms of the future, if an establishment repub wins in 2012, the economic crisis will continue, and as a result, an establishment dem will be elected in 2016 since he has a 'D' by his name and not an 'R'. If one party is wrong, then the other has to be right! It's a back and forth game of government spending from both parties, and no one is paying attention. The difference is, one is for the welfare state, the other is for the warfare state. However, both continue to take away our liberties little by little every four years. People need to educate themselves on how we got into this mess, and then support the candidate that will not continue the status quo, which is RON PAUL.

[SicEmBaylor]

Well, thinking in terms of the future, if an establishment repub wins in 2012, the economic crisis will continue, and as a result, an establishment dem will be elected in 2016 since he has a 'D' by his name and not an 'R'. If one party is wrong, then the other has to be right! It's a back and forth game of government spending from both parties, and no one is paying attention. The difference is, one is for the welfare state, the other is for the warfare state. However, both continue to take away our liberties little by little every four years. People need to educate themselves on how we got into this mess, and then support the candidate that will not continue the status quo.

This is exactly right.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Well, thinking in terms of the future, if an establishment repub wins in 2012, the economic crisis will continue, and as a result, an establishment dem will be elected in 2016 since he has a 'D' by his name and not an 'R'. If one party is wrong, then the other has to be right! It's a back and forth game of government spending from both parties, and no one is paying attention. The difference is, one is for the welfare state, the other is for the warfare state. However, both continue to take away our liberties little by little every four years. People need to educate themselves on how we got into this mess, and then support the candidate that will not continue the status quo.That is such a crock. The fed govt. is to protect and defend the USA. It is NOT to take away all our freedoms, and run the entire economy into the ground, expropriate our business and destroy initiative. If you guys can't see the difference between the democrats and everyone else, you will live to regret it. (since you apparently don't yet grasp what's going on)

[SpankyNek]

That is such a crock. The fed govt. is to protect and defend the USA. It is NOT to take away all our freedoms, and run the entire economy into the ground, expropriate our business and destroy initiative. If you guys can't see the difference between the democrats and everyone else, you will live to regret it. (since you apparently don't yet grasp what's going on)

FEAR

[StoopTroup]

This is exactly right.

I think that's what happened when Obama got elected but after he was in Office the Republicans did nothing but turn on him as troubles with the economy appeared and they haven't stopped yet.

Since OBL has been brought to justice and he's pushing to get our Troops out of Afghanistan....unless Obama doesn't handle this deal with the economy in August and allows Congress to blame him for the US defaulting....which I think even if they do....I'm not sure that there is a establishment Republican who can beat him. I think the GOP is making a huge mistake on playing with the economy the way they are. I don't like the POTUS doing it either but it's Congress that needs to stop the spending.

Obama will be elected in 2012.

Now folks can go ahead and call me a dirty lib but intelligent folks know that even if I were to vote for Obama....since i live in Oklahoma....My vote does little to get him elected. Most of Oklahoma's Electoral Votes will go to the GOP.

[bigfatjerk]

I think that's what happened when Obama got elected but after he was in Office the Republicans did nothing but turn on him as troubles with the economy appeared and they haven't stopped yet.
The republicans has nothing to do with anything the first 2 years of his presidency and spending went up more than it did in 8 years under Bush in those 2 years. The republicans basically didn't matter till the elections last year.

[BU BEAR]

Now folks can go ahead and call me a dirty lib but intelligent folks know that even if I were to vote for Obama....since i live in Oklahoma....My vote does little to get him elected. Most of Oklahoma's Electoral Votes will go to the GOP.

Oklahoma is an "all or nothing" state. All of Oklahoma's electoral votes go to one candidate or the other.

Also, the Republicans did not "turn on Obama." They were never on his side to begin with which is major plus for their party.

[StoopTroup]

Oklahoma is an "all or nothing" state. All of Oklahoma's electoral votes go to one candidate or the other.

Also, the Republicans did not "turn on Obama." They were never on his side to begin with which is major plus for their party.

That's right....I'm tired. I've been fighting the legalize weed lobby all day. :D

On the issue of the 2nd topic....I was giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[JohnnyMack]

I think that's what happened when Obama got elected but after he was in Office the Republicans did nothing but turn on him as troubles with the economy appeared and they haven't stopped yet.


It's the republicans fault he took tons of campaign cash from Wall Street, promised change and then looked the other way and avoided any real reforms?

[C&CDean]

Who the **** is Meghan, and why the **** should I care about her opinion?

[BU BEAR]

Who the **** is Meghan, and why the **** should I care about her opinion?


She posts pics of herself on the internet. Slightly less risque than Anthony Weiner.

[StoopTroup]

It's the republicans fault he took tons of campaign cash from Wall Street, promised change and then looked the other way and avoided any real reforms?

Where do you get this stuff?

He had like a billion dollars in campaign money to get rid of McCain. If Clinton had won the Dem Candidacy....she would have never gotten that kind of money. It was Obama's Campaign Manager that got him the dough....and it was a record amount I believe. If it had anything to do with Hillary she would have demanded the VP Spot. Since it Obama got all that dough....he was able to pick Biden instead. He gave Clinton the SOS Position as a Nice Try prize.

[StoopTroup]

Here Johnny....

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080819185119AAgo2Df

[JohnnyMack]

Where do you get this stuff?

He had like a billion dollars in campaign money to get rid of McCain. If Clinton had won the Dem Candidacy....she would have never gotten that kind of money. It was Obama's Campaign Manager that got him the dough....and it was a record amount I believe. If it had anything to do with Hillary she would have demanded the VP Spot. Since it Obama got all that dough....he was able to pick Biden instead. He gave Clinton the SOS Position as a Nice Try prize.

3 of his top 7 donors were from Wall Street.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638

And you can tell me you're happy with the fact he placed Goldman Sachs lackeys all over his cabinet and has instituted toothless reforms to the financial sector?

[StoopTroup]

All but Microsoft are on mcCain list too....lol

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00006424

[JohnnyMack]

All but Microsoft are on mcCain list too....lol

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00006424

Which is part of the larger problem. Neither Obama or McCain is any different than W. They're all puppets.

Welcome to the machine...

[StoopTroup]

Except that John's political career is over and Obama is running for a 2nd term as POTUS

[bigfatjerk]

Which is part of the larger problem. Neither Obama or McCain is any different than W. They're all puppets.

Welcome to the machine...
Exactly, McCain and Obama ran fairly identical campaigns except Obama promised no more war.

[BU BEAR]

I just want to know one thing:

Have the oceans stopped rising?

[StoopTroup]

Exactly, McCain and Obama ran fairly identical campaigns except Obama promised no more war.

That's pretty black and white. :D:pop:

[SicEmBaylor]

Your view on voting is child-like, and unfathomable for someone as bright as you.

I've tried hard to explain this to you for years. Maybe you're a visual learner, so I'll let the great Southern Avenger do the talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1U7N9AhprU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The republicans has nothing to do with anything the first 2 years of his presidency and spending went up more than it did in 8 years under Bush in those 2 years. The republicans basically didn't matter till the elections last year.exactamundo

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Exactly, McCain and Obama ran fairly identical campaigns except Obama promised no more war.Even goofus Johnny didn't promise to destroy the coal industry, cut back even more on oil and gas production, enact legislation that leads to Socialized Medicine, and other stuff, so I'm surprised you don't see him as different from Obear. IOW, McCain was far from a good candidate, but certainly not anywhere near the total disaster that Obear is.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I've tried hard to explain this to you for years. Maybe you're a visual learner, so I'll let the great Southern Avenger do the talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1U7N9AhprU&feature=youtube_gdata_playerI'm thinking the same about you. No matter how much you try to say that military spending is as bad and damaging as all the socialism, it just isn't correct.

I just saw the youtube link, and I agree with it. I could vote for Ron Paul. But, it doesn't address the choice we must make in the general election. What to do if he's not the nominee. Not voting or voting 3rd party will put us past the point of return, I'm afraid. That is all i'm referring to.

[StoopTroup]

I've tried hard to explain this to you for years. Maybe you're a visual learner, so I'll let the great Southern Avenger do the talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1U7N9AhprU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I made it to 1:21 about folks making snarky comments about Palin....

I just thought that she was given the VP job on a platter and instead of playing ball....she made a stand against her running mate. She took the limelight instead of steering it towards McCain. Then after they got beat....she went right back to Alaska....quit her job and took a job with Fox. I won't go after her character. She did it for the money and for her Family and when she had the opportunity to do something for America....she didn't do it.

Based on that....I guess you could say she stuck to her principles and instead of going Home and finishing her job as Governor....she took a bribe to leave it all once she realized that her real principles would never be accepted?

Paul's problem is that he was a libertarian who the GOP lets take out the trash.

The War in Libya is stupid? Getting rid of a Dictator isn't stupid and I'd rather do it this way than Bushes Way.

Palin's Foreign Policy is if you don't like our way to helping you....we'll leave and go Home. Why go there in the 1st place Sarah? Oh yeah....it's because OBL was there.....lol

SicEm.....do you really listen to people like this because they look down on other people and act like they know more because they sit around voicing it? Or because you think everyone is an idiot that doesn't voice their opinion?

Is it possible that some people who do this completely miss the mark and they are merely picking Conservatism and will never be pleased with any Candidate and as a true Conservative, there is only an Idealist or Philosophical entity? In reality....it can never exist in a Country that is about freedom and liberty and to be able to fight off other Countries that would cause us to endure mass migration of people to our Country in lew of making their Country free for their own people....they put a strain on us knowing that we will take their refugees? If we don't take the refugees then we must help others fight for their freedom shouldn't we?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

FEARA fear we should all have. You too, my fellow Sooner.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Oklahoma is an "all or nothing" state. All of Oklahoma's electoral votes go to one candidate or the other.

Also, the Republicans did not "turn on Obama." They were never on his side to begin with which is major plus for their party.

I think they were on his side when he was running against Hillary and later against McCain. More conservatives **** on Hillary and McCain than they **** on Obama - during the presidential election cycle.

[SicEmBaylor]

I weep for the Republic.

[TIMB0B]

That is such a crock. The fed govt. is to protect and defend the USA. It is NOT to take away all our freedoms, and run the entire economy into the ground, expropriate our business and destroy initiative. If you guys can't see the difference between the democrats and everyone else, you will live to regret it. (since you apparently don't yet grasp what's going on)
Do you think the Patriot Act is a crock?

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

Is Medicare Part D a crock?

I am well aware of the damage democrats have done, but it's when I realized the republicans weren't exactly the good guys either, that opened my eyes.

Are you sure you're not the one that doesn't grasp what's going on?

Judging by your username, I'd imagine you watch Fox News. Check out Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano on Fox Business. He's not a partisan hack like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, Schultz, O'Donnell, etc. He's a Constitutionalist.

[StoopTroup]

I weep for the Republic.

Someday you'll see how futile it is and start acting normal and not giving a shat like everyone else. You realize that if the few think your right....you scare the hell out of everyone else no matter how right you are or think you are....

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Do you think the Patriot Act is a crock?

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

Is Medicare Part D a crock?

I am well aware of the damage democrats have done, but it's when I realized the republicans weren't exactly the good guys either, that opened my eyes.

Are you sure you're not the one that doesn't grasp what's going on?

Judging by your username, I'd imagine you watch Fox News. Check out Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano on Fox Business. He's not a partisan hack like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, Schultz, O'Donnell, etc. He's a Constitutionalist.Sorry, you have quite a bit wrong, there. Your insistence on immoral equivalance is embarrassing and sad.

[TIMB0B]

Sorry, you have quite a bit wrong, there. Your insistence on immoral equivalance is embarrassing and sad.

Excellent rebuttal.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Personally I think Health Insurance was behind Obamacare. The thing is highly unconstitutional and will never see the light of day in my opinion. It didn't stop the health insurance companies from upping their premiums 3 to 10 times the annual amount to prepare for Obamacare. When it gets ruled unconstitutional, they will lower their rates about half of what they raised them and they will still be making Billion upon billions of more profit.

[delhalew]

That is such a crock. The fed govt. is to protect and defend the USA. It is NOT to take away all our freedoms, and run the entire economy into the ground, expropriate our business and destroy initiative. If you guys can't see the difference between the democrats and everyone else, you will live to regret it. (since you apparently don't yet grasp what's going on)

Deck chairs.

[delhalew]

I made it to 1:21 about folks making snarky comments about Palin....

I just thought that she was given the VP job on a platter and instead of playing ball....she made a stand against her running mate. She took the limelight instead of steering it towards McCain. Then after they got beat....she went right back to Alaska....quit her job and took a job with Fox. I won't go after her character. She did it for the money and for her Family and when she had the opportunity to do something for America....she didn't do it.

Based on that....I guess you could say she stuck to her principles and instead of going Home and finishing her job as Governor....she took a bribe to leave it all once she realized that her real principles would never be accepted?

Paul's problem is that he was a libertarian who the GOP lets take out the trash.

The War in Libya is stupid? Getting rid of a Dictator isn't stupid and I'd rather do it this way than Bushes Way.

Palin's Foreign Policy is if you don't like our way to helping you....we'll leave and go Home. Why go there in the 1st place Sarah? Oh yeah....it's because OBL was there.....lol

SicEm.....do you really listen to people like this because they look down on other people and act like they know more because they sit around voicing it? Or because you think everyone is an idiot that doesn't voice their opinion?

Is it possible that some people who do this completely miss the mark and they are merely picking Conservatism and will never be pleased with any Candidate and as a true Conservative, there is only an Idealist or Philosophical entity? In reality....it can never exist in a Country that is about freedom and liberty and to be able to fight off other Countries that would cause us to endure mass migration of people to our Country in lew of making their Country free for their own people....they put a strain on us knowing that we will take their refugees? If we don't take the refugees then we must help others fight for their freedom shouldn't we?

Surprise. You got stuck on some bs about Palin, and missed the point. Go figure.

Seriously though, I'm sure you see the problem with identity politics.

[King Barry's Back]

Ron Paul is the best candidate to beat Obama, but he won't come close to sniffing the nomination. All of the other dip****s who took that stage in the CNN debate will get waxed by BHO. The last two hopes the R's have is in Perry and Christie. We're a soundbyte, MTV, ESPN highlight nation. For Odin's sake the debate moderator was asking for questions to be answered in 30 seconds or less. Our nation is about as cerebral as a bowl of pudding. Even though I don't have any interest in voting for Obama again, don't think for a second that he's super vulnerable right now.


Ron Paul has absolutely no chance to beat Barak Obama, and slim to no chance to beat anybody else.

And if the Republicans nominate anybody that seems serious, competent, and well prepared, then Obama is very vulnerable.

If the Republicans manage to actually nominate an inspiring leader, then it will be a landslide win for the GOP.

[delhalew]

Ron Paul has absolutely no chance to beat Barak Obama, and slim to no chance to beat anybody else.

And if the Republicans nominate anybody that seems serious, competent, and well prepared, then Obama is very vulnerable.

If the Republicans manage to actually nominate an inspiring leader, then it will be a landslide win for the GOP.

I urge you to rethink that statement. Put your finger in the wind, and reconsider.

[bigfatjerk]

You can't say no republican has no chance to win because no matter who the republican is they will basically win the entire south outside of possibly New Mexico which is all of 5 electoral votes or something like that. The election will really come down to Virginia which is trending republican, Ohio which trends republican, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. All of these will be toss ups at best. If the republicans win at least 2 of these they have a good shot to win the election.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Ron Paul has absolutely no chance to beat Barak Obama, and slim to no chance to beat anybody else.

And if the Republicans nominate anybody that seems serious, competent, and well prepared, then Obama is very vulnerable.

If the Republicans manage to actually nominate an inspiring leader, then it will be a landslide win for the GOP.Duh!!!

[SpankyNek]

You can't say no republican has no chance to win because no matter who the republican is they will basically win the entire south outside of possibly New Mexico which is all of 5 electoral votes or something like that. The election will really come down to Virginia which is trending republican, Ohio which trends republican, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. All of these will be toss ups at best. If the republicans win at least 2 of these they have a good shot to win the election.

Mitt Romney would not guarantee the south. Ohio will not vote for any anti union rhetoric breather, and VA will have trouble voting against an African American. Also, Florida is swing at best.

A 3rd party candidate seals it for the incumbent, where even the majority of the South's states would give all electoral votes to Obama.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

A 3rd party candidate seals it for the incumbentyou got one right.(unless the 3rd party is Leftist, like Ralph Nader)

[delhalew]

The Republican Party is about to learn a hard lesson, and we're all gonna pay for it.

[pphilfran]

Come Nov 2012 if we still have upwards of 9% unemployment Bozo The Clown could probably win against the incumbent....

It is the economy, stupid....

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The Republican Party is about to learn a hard lesson, and we're all gonna pay for it.The worst thing would be if the Obear gets re-erected. If he loses, we are still in for some very difficult times, compared to anything I've seen in my 65 years, but if he wins, the Left will complete their transformation, and sincere sh*t gonna come down.

[pphilfran]

The worst thing would be if the Obear gets re-erected. If he loses, we are still in for some very difficult times, compared to anything I've seen in my 65 years, but if he wins, the Left will complete their transformation, and sincere sh*t gonna come down.

You're 65? Who'd have thunk it....

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You're 65? Who'd have thunk it....You were guessing 62, I hope!

[pphilfran]

You were guessing 62, I hope!

"Lower"...in a deep voice "Lower"...

[JohnnyMack]

Except that John's political career is over and Obama is running for a 2nd term as POTUS

Which makes you happy? Sad face? Says a lot about you?

[delhalew]

The worst thing would be if the Obear gets re-erected. If he loses, we are still in for some very difficult times, compared to anything I've seen in my 65 years, but if he wins, the Left will complete their transformation, and sincere sh*t gonna come down.

Oh well. I done voting for the lesser of two evils. The pubs have a chance to nominate a true statesman, willing to restore the union. If they don't, they can **** smooth off.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Oh well. I done voting for the lesser of two evils. The pubs have a chance to nominate a true statesman, willing to restore the union. If they don't, they can **** smooth off.a half vote for Obear, due to believing immoral equivalency, smooth indeed. Like a colon.

[JohnnyMack]

a half vote for Obear, due to believing immoral equivalency, smooth indeed. Like a colon.

What is this new soundbyte you're using? Read it at newsmax or did Rushy-poo come up with it?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What is this new soundbyte you're using? Read it at newsmax or did Rushy-poo come up with it?You have my permission to use either of my new endearing names for the president.

[3rdgensooner]

Rush, you didn't contribute to the nickname thread I started for the Republican field. I'm quite disappointed.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Rush, you didn't contribute to the nickname thread I started for the Republican field. I'm quite disappointed.Musta dashed below the radar, somehow.

[TIMB0B]

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[TIMB0B]

The only "racist" stance he has taken is that he felt that the federal government over stepped its authority with the Civil Rights Acts. His opponents have tried to use that to prove that he is a racist.

What's overlooked is that if the government hadn't intervened to begin with in the 1870s(?) by creating the Jim Crow laws, we wouldn't have had to have a Civil Rights Act.

[TIMB0B]

I've tried hard to explain this to you for years. Maybe you're a visual learner, so I'll let the great Southern Avenger do the talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1U7N9AhprU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
A top comment...

"Take away the D or R and suddenly you have to become engaged in order to know who to vote for. Another great video."

mrtomsr

[StoopTroup]

Surprise. You got stuck on some bs about Palin, and missed the point. Go figure.

Seriously though, I'm sure you see the problem with identity politics.

If I got stuck in Palin....please don't tell my Wife.

Also....you missed the post where I said something about not giving a ****....:D

[TIMB0B]

If I got stuck in Palin....please don't tell my Wife.

Also....you missed the post where I said something about not giving a ****....:D

Apathy has been this country's downfall.

[Scott D]

I blame the elderly.