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NorCal Sooner
6/9/2011, 08:09 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/6/9/2216121/bill-stewart-west-virginia-football-fired-resigning

Sooner_Tuf
6/9/2011, 08:20 PM
I don't think the story is reporting that Bill Stewart is negotiating his exit but that conditions are such he should be or will be soon.

I don't think will come as a surprise to anyone. Stewart isn't cut from the same cloth as most people. He may not respond as predicted.

Either way his days at WVU are numbered but he may very well make his departure as messy as possible.

Mazeppa
6/9/2011, 08:24 PM
Doesn't he have more dirt to dig up?

Soonermagik
6/9/2011, 08:24 PM
WVU might want to hang onto Stewart with Dana's recent antics.

NorCal Sooner
6/9/2011, 08:32 PM
WVU might want to hang onto Stewart with Dana's recent antics.

Does it not seem that they should be negotiating an exit with Dana too??

northspeter
6/9/2011, 08:34 PM
the AD should be the one exiting, for putting these guys in that situation to begin with...

mgsooner
6/9/2011, 08:49 PM
Will be sad to see ol' Captain Yellowteeth go. I still laugh at how we screwed West Virginia by forcing them to hire him after we tanked a bowl game.

yermom
6/9/2011, 08:50 PM
canning your interim coach that won their bowl game worked out pretty well for Nebraska

well, you know, eventually

ouwasp
6/9/2011, 08:53 PM
I agree w/ most everything said in the thread...

What I don't get is why Stewart didn't simply accept a nice settlement months ago? He could be kicked back, taking it easy. Or maybe even become of of those talking-head know-it-alls on a college football analysis show.

Guess that's the cut from another piece of cloth character...

badger
6/10/2011, 08:16 AM
canning your interim coach that won their bowl game worked out pretty well for Nebraska

well, you know, eventually

Pelini: BOWL WIN!

Nebraska: Nah... let's have a big search committee!

Pederson: No.

Pederson: I'm hiring Houston Nutt!

Nutt: Hey look! A big fat raise from Arkansas!

Pederson: I'm hiring everyone!

Everyone: No thank you.

Pederson: Callahan?

Callahan: I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE, KIDS! ...I mean, "yes."

Nebraska: Goodbye, Pederson.

Osborne: Hello, Callahan. I'm your new boss.

Callahan: I am so fired.

Osborne: Yes you are. Fired.

Pelini: If you thought I was crazy the first time, I have been learning even more crazy from :les:

royalfan5
6/10/2011, 08:30 AM
I think the important lesson here is that you don't half fire your coach, and if do half-fire your coach, don't hire a guy who thinks it's okay to have skullet as a replacement for the fired coach who is still around.

The Profit
6/10/2011, 08:35 AM
WVU might want to hang onto Stewart with Dana's recent antics.





It looks like Stewart and his wife made up some of these antics, which is why they are showing him the door a year earlier. While the AD might have thought a "head coach in waiting" was a good idea, the Stewart family obviously did not.

boomersooner28
6/10/2011, 09:17 AM
What is Rich Rod doing?


:pop:

Dio
6/10/2011, 09:29 AM
What is Rich Rod doing?


:pop:

Deadheading a Josh Groban tour, probably.

Lawton4Life
6/10/2011, 09:32 AM
You know its not totally suprising that this is how it ended, but shouldn't adults who are charged with leading young men behave better than this?

yermom
6/10/2011, 09:41 AM
if i was looking down the barrel of losing a job making close to a million dollars a year, i might be a little childish about keeping it

NormanPride
6/10/2011, 09:46 AM
^^^ THIS

Lawton4Life
6/10/2011, 09:49 AM
The flip side of that is if you dont act like a complete moron, you'll get another coaching gig. Coaches get recylced more than my socks and drawers in college...it's almost like if you get a coaching job once and dont get found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, you'll get a second job.

Who is going to hire the house painter now?

Bourbon St Sooner
6/10/2011, 09:53 AM
Will be sad to see ol' Captain Yellowteeth go. I still laugh at how we screwed West Virginia by forcing them to hire him after we tanked a bowl game.

After that game, I think I told a WVU fan that the only good thing about this game is now you're going to hire that coach and no longer be relevant.

I think I said that. I was kind of durnk.

OUmillenium
6/10/2011, 10:14 AM
This thread has potential

The Maestro
6/10/2011, 10:15 AM
It's like telling your wife she is getting old, her tits are sagging and the butt is getting bigger, so in a year you want a nice, peaceful divorce. In the meantime, this hot shot nanny is going to live with us the next year to help make things work smoothly.

It just doesn't work out. Unless your old school Mormon.

badger
6/10/2011, 11:36 AM
Fun at Nebrasky's expense aside, they should have finished negotiating Bill Stewart's exit when they hired a coach-in-waiting. Alas, a man named Dana (that should have been the first tipoff that something was not going to work) blares a sour note in Bill's swan song.

Now... let's see what a Google news search turns up... Bill Stewart has a new lawyer. Stewart's future is in jeopardy (http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/201106100527).
Stewart talks are happening today. (http://wvgazette.com/Sports/201106100587) and Stewart is reportedly out. (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/29919580)


West Virginia is in negotiations to buy out embattled coach Bill Stewart, The Sporting News reported Thursday night, citing a source.

Coach-in-waiting/offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen would be elevated to head coach. Asked to confirm the report, Mountaineers AD Oliver Luck replied via text, "I can't comment."

This is all kind of funny. I can't wait to see what happens next.

Scott D
6/10/2011, 12:57 PM
Deadheading a Josh Groban tour, probably.

best ****ing post in this thread...by far people.

badger
6/10/2011, 01:17 PM
Oh West Virginia, the costs of winning football...

You were only gonna have to pay Bill Stewart $900k this season, with $50k raises each season after under his current contract.

Link (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10348/1110701-100.stm)

Follow the same link and you'll see that Dana is set to make about $500k... as an assistant, coach-in-waiting. As a head coach, $2 million annually.

Had the school fired him this offseason, they'd owe Stewie $2.5 million. Linky (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/29919580)

Sooooo... instead of paying shy of $1 million for coaching duties, WVU is gonna be paying possibly shy of $5 million for coaching duties... whatever they're paying Bill Stewart for the offseason so far, the fired/buyout/whatever money, AND Dana Holgorsen head coaching pay.

Well, they can raise tuition I guess... oh wait, they already did that last week. (http://wvgazette.com/News/201106031461) lol.

Dio
6/10/2011, 01:19 PM
best ****ing post in this thread...by far people.

You lift me up, Scott.

BoulderSooner79
6/10/2011, 01:38 PM
It's like telling your wife she is getting old, her tits are sagging and the butt is getting bigger, so in a year you want a nice, peaceful divorce. In the meantime, this hot shot nanny is going to live with us the next year to help make things work smoothly.

It just doesn't work out. Unless your old school Mormon.

Thanks for the warning, Maestro. I was going to suggest this very arrangement to my wife, but now I am going to refine the details of the plan a bit before I present it.

badger
6/10/2011, 01:59 PM
Question: Of the major college football coaching changes, what is the common denominator, if not extreme losing? After all, Bill didn't lose a ton, he just didn't win 10 games in a season. 9 games, yes. 10 games, no.

Bill Stewart was not hired by the current West Virginia athletic director.

Mark Mangino was not hired by the KU athletic director that forced him to resign.

Ralph Friedgen was not hired by the Maryland athletic director that ousted him (but allowed him to coach the bowl game, bless his heart).

Rich Roddy was not hired by the Michigan athletic director that got rid of him.

Dave Wannstedt, who resigned, was not hired by Pitt's athletic director (because he was off screwing up Nebraska).

And because these AD's have shorter tenures than the head coaches they pushed out (or at least towards) the door, you can also correctly assume that these moves were made near the beginning of these AD's reigns at these schools.

In Stewart's case, Oliver Luck came to WVU in June 2010. Michigan's David Brandon started January 2010. Maryland's Kevin Anderson started September 2010.

So, not only are these athletic directors firing (or at least getting rid of them somehow) these high profile sport coaches that they didn't hire, they don't even give the old guys very much time after the AD's start their job.

Very interesting...

SoonerMom2
6/10/2011, 04:43 PM
ESPN just sent an email that Stewart is out and Holgerson is the new head coach.

yermom
6/10/2011, 04:52 PM
Question: Of the major college football coaching changes, what is the common denominator, if not extreme losing? After all, Bill didn't lose a ton, he just didn't win 10 games in a season. 9 games, yes. 10 games, no.

Bill Stewart was not hired by the current West Virginia athletic director.

Mark Mangino was not hired by the KU athletic director that forced him to resign.

Ralph Friedgen was not hired by the Maryland athletic director that ousted him (but allowed him to coach the bowl game, bless his heart).

Rich Roddy was not hired by the Michigan athletic director that got rid of him.

Dave Wannstedt, who resigned, was not hired by Pitt's athletic director (because he was off screwing up Nebraska).

And because these AD's have shorter tenures than the head coaches they pushed out (or at least towards) the door, you can also correctly assume that these moves were made near the beginning of these AD's reigns at these schools.

In Stewart's case, Oliver Luck came to WVU in June 2010. Michigan's David Brandon started January 2010. Maryland's Kevin Anderson started September 2010.

So, not only are these athletic directors firing (or at least getting rid of them somehow) these high profile sport coaches that they didn't hire, they don't even give the old guys very much time after the AD's start their job.

Very interesting...

the relationship between Boren, Joe C and Stoops is often mentioned

Whet
6/10/2011, 09:49 PM
Report: Stewart to resign amid scandal


West Virginia University football coach Bill Stewart will resign in the wake of a bizarre scandal in which he was alleged to have tried to orchestrate a smear campaign against his future replacement, the Charleston Gazette reported Friday.

Earlier reports indicated that discussions to buy out Stewart's contract had begun Friday morning.

The talks were the first reported contact between Stewart and the school since Tuesday, when a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporter revealed that Stewart had asked him to "dig up dirt" on offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen.

The conversation was said to have happened days after Holgorsen's hiring.

Holgorsen was hired from Oklahoma State in December with the understanding that he would take over as head coach after the 2011 season. With Stewart's departure reportedly imminent, Holgorsen is expected to take over immediately,

The university began this week investigating anonymous leaks to the Huntington Herald-Dispatch, which in a May 28 article stated that Holgorsen had been involved in "at least three and, perhaps, as many as six alcohol-related incidents in the last six months."

The university has said the story was filled with "blatant inaccuracies." The story came three days after Holgorsen issued an apology for an early-morning incident on May 18 in which he was asked to leave a West Virginia casino.

Stewart, who turns 59 on Saturday, has coached the Mountaineers since 2008, going 28-12 and leading the team to three straight bowl games.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/West-Virginia-football-coach-Bill-Stewart-resigns-amid-scandal-061011

ashley
6/11/2011, 12:17 PM
Dana will off Kliff Kingsbuy soon.

Sooner_Tuf
6/11/2011, 12:19 PM
Dana will off Kliff Kingsbuy soon.

OMG Really?

Flagstaffsooner
6/11/2011, 03:34 PM
jsaTElBljOE

meoveryouxinfinity
6/12/2011, 10:01 AM
Dana Holgorsen introduced as WVU head coach

by: Associated Press
Friday, June 10, 2011

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Dana Holgorsen has been introduced as West Virginia’s head football coach hours after Bill Stewart resigned.

Athletic director Oliver Luck didn’t address specific reasons for Stewart’s resignation at a news conference Friday night. But Luck says recent developments had become a distraction.

Holgorsen was hired from Oklahoma State as offensive coordinator and head coach-in-waiting in December, while Stewart was to serve his final season in 2011.

But both made unwanted headlines in recent weeks.

An intoxicated Holgorsen was escorted out of a casino last month. More recently, a reporter said Stewart had approached him shortly after Holgorsen’s hiring to “dig up” dirt on his eventual successor.

Holgorsen says becoming a college head coach for the first time is “the chance of a lifetime.”

soonerloyal
6/12/2011, 11:03 AM
jsaTElBljOE

Why wasn't this used in the To$u threads? :(

Jacie
6/12/2011, 02:02 PM
It sounds like the negotiations with Stewie boil down to do you want to clear out your office, pack your sh*te, and you and your conniving wife leave town ASAP or would you prefer we tar and feather you first . . .

badger
6/12/2011, 08:24 PM
Bill Stewart can join Mike Leach on the Island of Ex-Coaches, aka Key West. Poor them :P

The difference is that Stewart likely won't be considered for a head coaching vacancy ever again and if he returns to the college coaching ranks, he'll be a perennial assistant again that will only be a head coach if it's an emergency situation (like a BCS berth and the head coach just bolted for a better job).

Leach has to get another opportunity soon. He's too talented not to.

Jacie
6/20/2011, 08:36 PM
Ex-coach Bill Stewart to get $1.65M from WVU

By JOHN RABY, AP Sports Writer

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP)—Former West Virginia coach Bill Stewart will receive $1.65 million as part of a settlement agreement, the university said Monday.

WVU released the agreement to The Associated Press under a West Virginia Freedom of Information Act request.

The agreement is dated June 10, the same day Stewart resigned. Coach-in-waiting Dana Holgorsen was introduced as head coach that night.

The structure of the payment wasn’t immediately set. WVU said the payment was for “general and liquidated damages” but didn’t indicate whether any of it was for salary owed for the 2011 season.

As a condition of the settlement, the university and Stewart agreed not to pursue future action and refrain from engaging in disparaging conduct or communications against the other.

WVU said Stewart, whose ties to the university were severed after 11 years, will be entitled to other benefits, including accrued vacation time and sick leave.

When Holgorsen was hired as offensive coordinator in December, Stewart was supposed to take an undetermined administrative position after the 2011 season. But things started to change after police escorted Holgorsen from the Mardi Gras Casino in Cross Lanes on May 18. No charges were filed, and police said he committed no crime.

Two weeks ago a former Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporter said Stewart called him shortly after Holgorsen’s hiring and asked him to find something negative on the new hire.

WVU athletic director Oliver Luck has said the university was unable to substantiate unspecified rumors that had dogged the program in recent weeks.

Stewart went 28-12 in three seasons after taking over for Rich Rodriguez but failed to earn a Bowl Championship Series berth. Stewart signed a six-year contract in September 2008 and that agreement was amended last year when Luck decided to replace him.

When he resigned this month, Stewart gave a statement through Luck that he was “doing what I believe to be in the best interest of the Mountaineer Nation.”



So this closes the book on Stewie, a guy who fell into a coveted D-1 head coaching job, one he was not qualified to perform, and it took his employer three years to figure out it made a huge mistake and summon the nerve to deal with it.

The next question is, how long will Holgerson last at WVU? If he is a success (easily measured in that he wins a BCS bowl game) other big time programs that have fallen on hard times will come calling and if there is one thing stands out in Dana's resume it is he is not shy about moving on to the next job.

To add some fuel to this fire, there's a rumor that Leach is being courted to be Holgie's Offensive Coordinator . . .

Jason Alexander
6/21/2011, 03:54 PM
It's a shame. I liked Bill Stewart, as long as it meant that WVU would never consistently be in the top 25 again.

badger
6/21/2011, 04:20 PM
It's a shame. I liked Bill Stewart, as long as it meant that WVU would never consistently be in the top 25 again.

Amazing how accountable administrations are holding coaches for things like conference championships, top 25 finishes and BCS bowl appearances.

No matter how much you pay a coach, no matter the coach's track record at other places or how well their recruiting class ranks:

1- The Top 25 will always include just 25 teams. There might be multiple polls that you can point at, but 25-team polls will always include 25 teams, no more. Perhaps the "others receiving votes" will be something to hang your hat on, or perhaps there will be a tie at #25 to get a 26th team in, but 25 teams will be the cutoff, 99 percent of the time.

2- BCS bowls will only include 10 teams. That's two for the title game, eight for the traditional four games. And they won't even be the top 10 teams, either, due to rules and regulations. Only up to two teams from a conference can get invited to the party, and in some cases, even winning the conference (co-winning, that is) isn't good enough. Even an undefeated season is not a guarantee of a BCS invite (Hi, Ball State) or a national championship invite (Hi, Cincinnati).

3- Conference championships are tough. And they're not a guarantee of a BCS bowl invite (Hi, Michigan State) and they can be shared, because for some conferences, like the Big East or Big 12 (with 10 teams), there is no game to determine a sole champion. Some are so tough that they break conferences down into divisions, leading to lopsided championship games (Colorado's 70-3 loss in 2005 says hi) or wtf upsets (stupid Kansas State).

These programs can pour tons of money into facilities, coaches, recruiting, you name it, and these three things are not going to change. This arms race that is college football is brutal, and it's unending. Almost makes you feel sorry for the poor bastard millionaire coaching chumps :P