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OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 01:25 PM
Which negro would you want in the White House?


Discuss?

olevetonahill
6/3/2011, 01:27 PM
I think either one would do well at shining shoes .

OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 01:28 PM
I think either one would do well at shining shoes .
:eek:

:hot:

:pop:

3rdgensooner
6/3/2011, 01:29 PM
Who is Howard Cain?


And soft bigotry is always H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S

OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 01:33 PM
Who is Howard Cain?


And soft bigotry is always H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S

Ooops...Herman...sorry...LOL

Not being a bigot either...They aren't African Americans (well, Obama might be), just Americans, so I wont call them as such. And IMO, calling a person a black person is more racist then calling them a negro.

Tulsa_Fireman
6/3/2011, 01:36 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s0U5-mZg9eE/TdhoqtwVVbI/AAAAAAAASgU/qdOB-Uu_Mgo/s1600/Alan+Keyes.jpg

Don't make Alan Keyes choke a bitch.

OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 01:38 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s0U5-mZg9eE/TdhoqtwVVbI/AAAAAAAASgU/qdOB-Uu_Mgo/s1600/Alan+Keyes.jpg

Don't make Alan Keyes choke a bitch.


Who?

hawaii 5-0
6/3/2011, 01:42 PM
I like Cains Coffee.



5-0



Trump/ MaGoo 2012

sappstuf
6/3/2011, 01:43 PM
The one that cooks a better pizza... The choice is obvious.

http://www.voccoquan.com/images2011/herman%20cain%20large%20pizza.jpg

cantwait48
6/3/2011, 01:45 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s0U5-mZg9eE/TdhoqtwVVbI/AAAAAAAASgU/qdOB-Uu_Mgo/s1600/Alan+Keyes.jpg

Don't make Alan Keyes choke a bitch.

rofl:D

hawaii 5-0
6/3/2011, 01:58 PM
There's VERY few pizzas I've eaten in my lifetime that I didn't like. I've eaten thousands.

Godfathers is one of them. Lots of cheese but no flavor. I guess if I had a severe bleeding ulcer and wanted pizza it would be OK.


5-0



Trump/ Bosco 2012

Tulsa_Fireman
6/3/2011, 01:59 PM
There's VERY few pizzas I've eaten in my lifetime that I didn't like. I've eaten thousands.

Godfathers is one of them. Lots of cheese but no flavor. I guess if I had a severe bleeding ulcer and wanted pizza it would be OK.

You sir, are a godless heathen urinating on my childhood dreams of great pizza.

DIAF.

OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 02:04 PM
There's VERY few pizzas I've eaten in my lifetime that I didn't like. I've eaten thousands.

Godfathers is one of them. Lots of cheese but no flavor. I guess if I had a severe bleeding ulcer and wanted pizza it would be OK.


5-0



Trump/ Bosco 2012

:confused:

Godfather Pizza is some of the best around, when it comes to chain restaurants, IMO. It is a hell of a lot better than that crap Pizza Hut puts out!

Dominos may be the best now that they changed their recipe.

sappstuf
6/3/2011, 02:10 PM
There's VERY few pizzas I've eaten in my lifetime that I didn't like. I've eaten thousands.

Godfathers is one of them. Lots of cheese but no flavor. I guess if I had a severe bleeding ulcer and wanted pizza it would be OK.

5-0

Trump/ Bosco 2012

So since he returned them to profitability with terrible pizza he is even MORE qualified than Obama.

Sooner_Tuf
6/3/2011, 02:22 PM
Which negro would you want in the White House?


Discuss?

O'bama is Irish, beyotch. :bsmf:

Memtig14
6/3/2011, 02:46 PM
Not being a bigot either...They aren't African Americans (well, Obama might be), just Americans, so I wont call them as such.

I agree with that.




And IMO, calling a person a black person is more racist then calling them a negro.

I have black friends that say "African American" is a white mans term and they are black.

Memtig14
6/3/2011, 02:46 PM
Cain

Chuck Bao
6/3/2011, 03:00 PM
Obama still has my vote over all of the republican contenders so far.

XingTheRubicon
6/3/2011, 03:06 PM
Romney

Tulsa_Fireman
6/3/2011, 03:13 PM
http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/022808beetlejuicedwarf.jpg

OU_Sooners75
6/3/2011, 03:13 PM
I agree with that.





I have black friends that say "African American" is a white mans term and they are black.


And I have an interracial son where is family says it is more demeaning to be called black than negro since it judges the color of their skin.

They are proud to be the color of skin they are...but they are some of the least racist folks I have ever met!

Tulsa_Fireman
6/3/2011, 03:14 PM
I too have black friends.

Turd_Ferguson
6/3/2011, 03:15 PM
I too have black friends.I don't.:(

hawaii 5-0
6/3/2011, 03:16 PM
In Hawaii blacks are called Popolos.
Mixed races are called Hapas.

Obama is one hapa popolo kine man.



5-0


Trump/ Wheezer 2012

XingTheRubicon
6/3/2011, 03:17 PM
I have white friends that act black...does that count.

XingTheRubicon
6/3/2011, 03:19 PM
In Hawaii blacks are called Popolos.
Mixed races are called Hapas.

Obama is one hapa popolo kine man.



5-0


Trump/ Wheezer 2012

In Oklahoma, I believe it's Obama is one term jackass man.

sooner59
6/3/2011, 03:19 PM
Well I have white friends that act black and black friends that act white.

XingTheRubicon
6/3/2011, 03:20 PM
Well I have white friends that act black and black friends that act white.

what about hispanic friends that act legal

sooner59
6/3/2011, 03:24 PM
what about hispanic friends that act legal

Haha! I don't have any hispanic friends, silly.

delhalew
6/3/2011, 03:57 PM
Obama still has my vote over all of the republican contenders so far.

I know you subscribe to some economic theories that seem foolish to me, but beyond that, what has he done to earn your vote? Every tactic he has tried in every policy arena has been an abject failure.

I only ask because I actually care what you think, and I don't believe you are an automaton, ready to follow any liberal over the cliff.

soonercoop1
6/3/2011, 04:56 PM
Cain is the only one that has joined the race I would vote for so far...

sooner59
6/3/2011, 05:04 PM
Haha! I don't have any hispanic friends, silly.

Actually, I take that back. Forgot about BTK. :D

TheHumanAlphabet
6/3/2011, 07:21 PM
I would vote for Cain in a heart beat. I would rather vote for the devil than O'bummer.

AlboSooner
6/3/2011, 07:22 PM
Idk, one guy you want on your basketball team and the other to make your pizza. tough choice

tcrb
6/3/2011, 07:24 PM
At this point, Cain would get my vote over anyone who has declared their candidacy.

Chuck Bao
6/3/2011, 08:00 PM
I know you subscribe to some economic theories that seem foolish to me, but beyond that, what has he done to earn your vote? Every tactic he has tried in every policy arena has been an abject failure.

I only ask because I actually care what you think, and I don't believe you are an automaton, ready to follow any liberal over the cliff.

Thanks delhalew and I always read and appreciate your comments.

I have to admit that I am very disappointed in President Obama. He hasn't achieved a fraction of what he promised. It isn't ALL his fault. Or maybe, it is just that I now have lowered my expectations to only a tiny fraction of what it was.

Probably the overriding factor is that many of the Republican candidates campaign on hate and fear and outdated platitudes, instead of offering viable solutions.

I honestly don't know what anyone in the US thinks. So I am asking, which candidate would you vote for: 1) a candidate who gives an indication of what he wants to achieve and then can't achieve the promises, or 2) a candidate who campaigns on how bad the other candidate is with some very obvious mud slinging?

A case in point was the government bailout schemes. The right-wing Republicans and supporters, at that time, were running around yelling "socialism" and "communism", when it would have been in the government's (and eventually taxpayers') best interest to just takeover the failed companies and privatize them later. Where was the Tea Party back then?

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the Tea Party, but a lot of their important message gets skewed and hijacked and maybe that is why they are so fractured.

Your question was about economics, delhalew, so I will try to give a straight answer even though I really can't. We live in a new global economy and historic economic numbers are not meaningful. Currently, there is a global redistribution of wealth that is unparalleled in the history of mankind.

I was exchanging emails with my old economics professor a few weeks ago and I told him that I had thrown out all of my old economics textbooks. He said that he did some of his as well.

The Republican mantra of cutting taxes as a clear and easy solution of fixing the economy just simply doesn't work anymore, although it is a very attractive selling point for voters.

Think about this: jobs can be transplanted overseas, people not so easily. If you are a cold, rational person, the conclusion would be to slash the corporate tax rate and all the employee bennies that have burdened US companies in an effort to keep jobs here, while raising personal income taxes to offset the loss of corporate tax revenues.

If you work for an essential service like health care or government service and think you would be protected, think again. Job losses in the private sector will create a lot of future competition for your job. Just throw out any idea of future pay rises or getting that promised retirement check.

It is a very harsh life out there and I don't think it will get any better any time soon for any of us. I really do pity whoever is elected the next president.

TitoMorelli
6/3/2011, 10:00 PM
Good and thoughtful post as usual, CB.

hawaii 5-0
6/3/2011, 10:21 PM
I'm pizzed off at Obama as well.


He said no more tax cuts to Big Business and the wealthy. He lied.

He said he's get us out of Iraq. Still waiting.

bin Laden is dead. Why we still there?


That's about it.


5-0


Trump/ Sajak 2012

Sooner5030
6/3/2011, 11:22 PM
"Hope" is not a method.

Cain has actually led an organization that had to have a positive number at the end of the income statement.

Memtig14
6/4/2011, 12:19 AM
And I have an interracial son where is family says it is more demeaning to be called black than negro since it judges the color of their skin.

They are proud to be the color of skin they are...but they are some of the least racist folks I have ever met!

I guess not all blacks agree on this. Of course this has been changed many times in the last 40 years or so.

I have heard many black people say that they consider "negro" to be their most hated term.

It all gets confusing......so I just stay out of it.

85Sooner
6/4/2011, 04:46 PM
Thanks delhalew and I always read and appreciate your comments.

I have to admit that I am very disappointed in President Obama. He hasn't achieved a fraction of what he promised. It isn't ALL his fault. Or maybe, it is just that I now have lowered my expectations to only a tiny fraction of what it was.

Probably the overriding factor is that many of the Republican candidates campaign on hate and fear and outdated platitudes, instead of offering viable solutions.

I honestly don't know what anyone in the US thinks. So I am asking, which candidate would you vote for: 1) a candidate who gives an indication of what he wants to achieve and then can't achieve the promises, or 2) a candidate who campaigns on how bad the other candidate is with some very obvious mud slinging?

A case in point was the government bailout schemes. The right-wing Republicans and supporters, at that time, were running around yelling "socialism" and "communism", when it would have been in the government's (and eventually taxpayers') best interest to just takeover the failed companies and privatize them later. Where was the Tea Party back then?

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the Tea Party, but a lot of their important message gets skewed and hijacked and maybe that is why they are so fractured.

Your question was about economics, delhalew, so I will try to give a straight answer even though I really can't. We live in a new global economy and historic economic numbers are not meaningful. Currently, there is a global redistribution of wealth that is unparalleled in the history of mankind.

I was exchanging emails with my old economics professor a few weeks ago and I told him that I had thrown out all of my old economics textbooks. He said that he did some of his as well.

The Republican mantra of cutting taxes as a clear and easy solution of fixing the economy just simply doesn't work anymore, although it is a very attractive selling point for voters.

Think about this: jobs can be transplanted overseas, people not so easily. If you are a cold, rational person, the conclusion would be to slash the corporate tax rate and all the employee bennies that have burdened US companies in an effort to keep jobs here, while raising personal income taxes to offset the loss of corporate tax revenues.

If you work for an essential service like health care or government service and think you would be protected, think again. Job losses in the private sector will create a lot of future competition for your job. Just throw out any idea of future pay rises or getting that promised retirement check.

It is a very harsh life out there and I don't think it will get any better any time soon for any of us. I really do pity whoever is elected the next president.

Especially, with socialists and marxists running this country. One quick civil war would give this country a well needed enema.

tcrb
6/4/2011, 04:50 PM
Especially, with socialists and marxists running this country. One quick civil war would give this country a well needed enema.

I agree that this country may benefit from a governmental enema, but most civil wars are not "quick".

delhalew
6/5/2011, 11:38 AM
Thanks delhalew and I always read and appreciate your comments.

I have to admit that I am very disappointed in President Obama. He hasn't achieved a fraction of what he promised. It isn't ALL his fault. Or maybe, it is just that I now have lowered my expectations to only a tiny fraction of what it was.

Probably the overriding factor is that many of the Republican candidates campaign on hate and fear and outdated platitudes, instead of offering viable solutions.
I don't see the hate or fear. The very ideology behind this administrations policies is offensive to many. When you run against an incumbent, you make them pay for their mistakes, and their perceived "victories".



I honestly don't know what anyone in the US thinks. So I am asking, which candidate would you vote for: 1) a candidate who gives an indication of what he wants to achieve and then can't achieve the promises, or 2) a candidate who campaigns on how bad the other candidate is with some very obvious mud slinging?
I have to admit this kind of blows my mind. Obama has shown what some of us suspected to be true. He has nothing to offer but politics. Hope and Change as a platform is as empty as it gets. Politically masterful, but empty. No one wanted to explore what he REALLY meant when he says he wants to "fundamentally transform America". Well, thanks *******. Congrats on a job well done. Every policy that was not able to be strong armed thru Congress, is in the process of being backdoored thru regulation.

If you were paying attention, you knew these policies would be coming, the problem is it all smacks of the "I am going to do what's best for the peasants, because you're too damn stupid" attitude that limousine liberals are often criticized for championing.

Whoever his opponent is will be no more vague than BHO was when he was shucking and jiving for the electorate. He actually compared himself to Reagan.

A case in point was the government bailout schemes. The right-wing Republicans and supporters, at that time, were running around yelling "socialism" and "communism", when it would have been in the government's (and eventually taxpayers') best interest to just takeover the failed companies and privatize them later. Where was the Tea Party back then?
The Tea Party was birthed in a barrage of takeovers and bailouts. It is not inaccurate to say GW Bush got the ball rolling on the bank bailouts. The genesis of the tea party was born of the frustration with the basic truth that democrats will always tax and spend until the walls fall down around them, but these republicans were behaving just as badly. So the Tea Party's first objective was to replace spendaholic Neo-cons, with Conservative Republicans. I personally will consider it a failure if doesn't result in a culture of Neo-federalism.


Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the Tea Party, but a lot of their important message gets skewed and hijacked and maybe that is why they are so fractured.

Your question was about economics, delhalew, so I will try to give a straight answer even though I really can't. We live in a new global economy and historic economic numbers are not meaningful. Currently, there is a global redistribution of wealth that is unparalleled in the history of mankind.

I was exchanging emails with my old economics professor a few weeks ago and I told him that I had thrown out all of my old economics textbooks. He said that he did some of his as well.
I hope the books that were discarded are not the ones that are heavy on the Mises and Rothbard.

The Republican mantra of cutting taxes as a clear and easy solution of fixing the economy just simply doesn't work anymore, although it is a very attractive selling point for voters.

Think about this: jobs can be transplanted overseas, people not so easily. If you are a cold, rational person, the conclusion would be to slash the corporate tax rate and all the employee bennies that have burdened US companies in an effort to keep jobs here, while raising personal income taxes to offset the loss of corporate tax revenues.

If you work for an essential service like health care or government service and think you would be protected, think again. Job losses in the private sector will create a lot of future competition for your job. Just throw out any idea of future pay rises or getting that promised retirement check.

It is a very harsh life out there and I don't think it will get any better any time soon for any of us. I really do pity whoever is elected the next president.

This is why I hate to see were this governmental manipulation of "capitalism" is going to lead. I'm sorry. I ain't buying that a global economy suddenly makes bedrock solid economic policies invalid.

We want to criticize the failures of unbridled capitalism, when we've seen nothing of the sort. The well is poisoned. Trying to find the right balance of water and poison is foolish. Keynesian economics has serious flaws, but even JM Keynes would realize that rubber stamping an ever expanding debt ceiling, and pretending poorly designed entitlements can be continued for a nation of 300 million without alteration when the resources are insufficient, is foolhardy at best.

I don't think the future you describe has to be. Austrian economics cures a lot of ills when properly applied.

champions77
6/5/2011, 05:04 PM
I don't see the hate or fear. The very ideology behind this administrations policies is offensive to many. When you run against an incumbent, you make them pay for their mistakes, and their perceived "victories".


I have to admit this kind of blows my mind. Obama has shown what some of us suspected to be true. He has nothing to offer but politics. Hope and Change as a platform is as empty as it gets. Politically masterful, but empty. No one wanted to explore what he REALLY meant when he says he wants to "fundamentally transform America". Well, thanks *******. Congrats on a job well done. Every policy that was not able to be strong armed thru Congress, is in the process of being backdoored thru regulation.

If you were paying attention, you knew these policies would be coming, the problem is it all smacks of the "I am going to do what's best for the peasants, because you're too damn stupid" attitude that limousine liberals are often criticized for championing.

Whoever his opponent is will be no more vague than BHO was when he was shucking and jiving for the electorate. He actually compared himself to Reagan.

The Tea Party was birthed in a barrage of takeovers and bailouts. It is not inaccurate to say GW Bush got the ball rolling on the bank bailouts. The genesis of the tea party was born of the frustration with the basic truth that democrats will always tax and spend until the walls fall down around them, but these republicans were behaving just as badly. So the Tea Party's first objective was to replace spendaholic Neo-cons, with Conservative Republicans. I personally will consider it a failure if doesn't result in a culture of Neo-federalism.


I hope the books that were discarded are not the ones that are heavy on the Mises and Rothbard.


This is why I hate to see were this governmental manipulation of "capitalism" is going to lead. I'm sorry. I ain't buying that a global economy suddenly makes bedrock solid economic policies invalid.

We want to criticize the failures of unbridled capitalism, when we've seen nothing of the sort. The well is poisoned. Trying to find the right balance of water and poison is foolish. Keynesian economics has serious flaws, but even JM Keynes would realize that rubber stamping an ever expanding debt ceiling, and pretending poorly designed entitlements can be continued for a nation of 300 million without alteration when the resources are insufficient, is foolhardy at best.

I don't think the future you describe has to be. Austrian economics cures a lot of ills when properly applied.


+1 Only Repubs use "hate and fear" and don't offer viable alternatives? Say what? Paul Ryan rolls out a budget plan and is immediately attacked and demagogued by the dems, even had an ad showing grandma being rolled over a cliff. Of course the Ryan plan did not affect anyone 55 years old or older. Solutions by the dems...? only raise taxes on the wealthy which in itself will not come anywhere close to bringing in the revenue needed to stop the debt disaster that is going on. By doing nothing WILL roll grandma over the cliff, as well as most entitlement programs in this country today. That's the dem plan. Brilliant. Nice leadership there BHO. What a phony.

Sooner98
6/5/2011, 11:51 PM
Probably the overriding factor is that many of the Republican candidates campaign on hate and fear and outdated platitudes, instead of offering viable solutions.

OGnE83A1Z4U

Howzit
6/6/2011, 08:28 AM
I have a Laotian friend that acts Vietnamese.

Chuck Bao
6/6/2011, 11:12 AM
I have a Laotian friend that acts Vietnamese.

Strange, that. I've been to Dien Bien Phu and they spoke Lao.

JohnnyMack
6/6/2011, 11:45 AM
The Tea Party was birthed in a barrage of takeovers and bailouts. It is not inaccurate to say GW Bush got the ball rolling on the bank bailouts. The genesis of the tea party was born of the frustration with the basic truth that democrats will always tax and spend until the walls fall down around them, but these republicans were behaving just as badly. So the Tea Party's first objective was to replace spendaholic Neo-cons, with Conservative Republicans. I personally will consider it a failure if doesn't result in a culture of Neo-federalism.

One day soon we'll drink fine ales and lament the death of the Tea Party.

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/05/11/new-brody-file-show-on-the-teavangelical-movement.aspx

delhalew
6/6/2011, 11:58 AM
One day soon we'll drink fine ales and lament the death of the Tea Party.

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/05/11/new-brody-file-show-on-the-teavangelical-movement.aspx

There have been many attempts to mainstream the Tea Party. Some work on some segments, but the movement to be a true republic isn't going anywhere.

soonerscuba
6/6/2011, 12:38 PM
Tea Party candidates can win state elections under only the most pristine conditions, a national election win pie in the sky. The Tea Party is know-nothing, right-wing kookery that pops up anytime the going gets tough in any democracy, the end game is that to devalues itself to insolvency by it's very push for ideological purity.

delhalew
6/6/2011, 12:45 PM
Tea Party candidates can win state elections under only the most pristine conditions, a national election win pie in the sky. The Tea Party is know-nothing, right-wing kookery that pops up anytime the going gets tough in any democracy, the end game is that to devalues itself to insolvency by it's very push for ideological purity.

You couldn't know any less about the subject.

soonerscuba
6/6/2011, 12:55 PM
You couldn't know any less about the subject.You caught me, I really just made up that during downward economic cycles in democracy, there is a history of right-wing movements that spring up and eventually place themselves out of marketability by ideologically cleansing themselves. Also, during revolution, there are rarely liberal groups that do the same.

There is very rarely anything new under the sun, the Tea Party is an expectation, not a revolution.

XingTheRubicon
6/6/2011, 01:32 PM
You caught me, I really just made up that during downward economic cycles in democracy, there is a history of right-wing movements that spring up and eventually place themselves out of marketability by ideologically cleansing themselves. Also, during revolution, there are rarely liberal groups that do the same.

There is very rarely anything new under the sun, the Tea Party is an expectation, not a revolution.

Yeah, I'm sure the 100 or so liberal congressmen that are now working at Hibdon Tire agree with you.

JohnnyMack
6/6/2011, 01:39 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the 100 or so liberal congressmen that are now working at Hibdon Tire agree with you.

The political circle of life. Remember the 2008 election? Doesn't mean much other than the populace is fickle.

XingTheRubicon
6/6/2011, 01:51 PM
you have to admit it was a pretty big reversal....largest swing of one party to another since the 30's.


also agree on the fickle, after some R is elected POTUS in 2012, we'll continue or start our double dip and the populace will be looking for another junior senator

soonerscuba
6/6/2011, 01:54 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the 100 or so liberal congressmen that are now working at Hibdon Tire agree with you.Doesn't matter if they were liberal or not, some blue dogs took the ax as well. I'm not saying it isn't influential or can't pull off a state election (gov, Sen, judicial), but they got beat badly during a favorable cycle on most broader contests, a presidential election is completely out of the question for a TP favorite. Eventually they will just weed themselves out of relevance or give up. To quote Carlin "Behind every cynic is a failed idealist", my guess that in 5-10 years there will be a lot of cynics coming out of the tea party.

JohnnyMack
6/6/2011, 02:10 PM
my guess that in 5-10 years there will be a lot of cynics coming out of the tea party.

And Ralph Reed will be a rich, two-faced scumbag.

OU Adonis
6/6/2011, 02:18 PM
We had one black friend growing up. Everyone called him "Token" for some reason.

I never understood why.

sappstuf
6/6/2011, 02:21 PM
Doesn't matter if they were liberal or not, some blue dogs took the ax as well. I'm not saying it isn't influential or can't pull off a state election (gov, Sen, judicial), but they got beat badly during a favorable cycle on most broader contests, a presidential election is completely out of the question for a TP favorite. Eventually they will just weed themselves out of relevance or give up. To quote Carlin "Behind every cynic is a failed idealist", my guess that in 5-10 years there will be a lot of cynics coming out of the tea party.

If the economy looks the same in November of 2012 as it does now then nothing is out of the question except for Obama's reelection.

If Rick Perry decides to join the race, he will be a Tea Party favorite and with the economy in Texas, it would be dumb to say he wouldn't have a very good chance of winning.

champions77
6/6/2011, 03:44 PM
If the economy looks the same in November of 2012 as it does now then nothing is out of the question except for Obama's reelection.

If Rick Perry decides to join the race, he will be a Tea Party favorite and with the economy in Texas, it would be dumb to say he wouldn't have a very good chance of winning.

The Tea Party, a collection of Americans from all walks of life that feel the Federal Government is out of control, that the government should live within it's means, with a balanced budget, low taxes, operate only within the structure of the US Constitution, maintain a strong military and should adhere to the values, virtues and principles that made this country great, like personal responsibility, self-reliance and with a strong work ethic. And for this they are vilified, demonized and ridiculed beyond belief by our phony President and his cronies in the media and Congress.


Go Herman Cain. My gosh it will be fun to accuse the dems of being racist when they criticize Herman Cain. Can't wait.

soonerscuba
6/6/2011, 05:48 PM
feel the Federal Government...should live within it's means, with a balanced budget, low taxes...maintain a strong militaryThe rest was was sound and fury, so I pulled the interesting parts. How do you do all these things without raising revenue via taxes? Keep in mind you simply aren't going to change medical entitlements, right or wrong, that toothpaste doesn't go back.

Sooner5030
6/6/2011, 06:41 PM
most the anti-tea party folks don't even understand what A tea party is....they discuss it using THE Tea Party....which one exactly are you talking about?

By the way....they are not that conservative.....only where the libertarian message overlaps the conservative message and add a spice of individual vs the the connected (crony capitalist + Statist).

MR2-Sooner86
6/6/2011, 08:00 PM
Cain for sure. Obama has too much honky in him.