A question for Nate, cruiser, RLIMC and the other right wing moonbats:

[JohnnyMack]

Who is your ideal candidate for the 2012 Presidential Election?

Thanks.

[Curly Bill]

Anyone that's not a muslim, socialist, Kenyan-born, community organizing, can't talk without a teleprompter, hope and change, spend the country into oblivion to play to his base, piece of crap. :D

[JohnnyMack]

You're not a moon bat, you're just mildly retarded.

[SoCaliSooner]

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Brewster.jpg

[mgsooner]

Ah, Brewster's Millions. Great flick. Used to come on WGN all the time. Haven't seen it in awhile tho

[Mongo]

Lando Calrissian

[SoCaliSooner]

http://www.nbc.com/Las_Vegas/images/placeholder/tom_selleck.jpg

I'd vote for Magnum, he's a bit more libertarian and would never run, but he'd earn my vote.

[Curly Bill]

I wouldn't vote for Magnum, if dogs don't like you, that's a strong sign there's something wrong. :D

[ouwino]

Anyone that's not a muslim, socialist, Kenyan-born, community organizing, can't talk without a teleprompter, hope and change, spend the country into oblivion to play to his base, piece of crap. :D

what he said! :)

[Blue]

I'd vote for Paul. I doubt he'd win the primary though.

The media will give us Romney vs Obama and I will proceed to not watch the news for 14 months.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Stu Pidaso

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Anyone that's not a muslim, socialist, Kenyan-born, community organizing, can't talk without a teleprompter, hope and change, spend the country into oblivion to play to his base, piece of crap. :D


You were describing Palin perfectly until you got to the spending the country into oblivion part!!

[StoopTroup]

The way folks defend the Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, you'd think he would be top of the list.

[Curly Bill]

You were describing Palin perfectly until you got to the spending the country into oblivion part!!

These things aren't as funny when you try too hard. ;)

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Who is your ideal candidate for the 2012 Presidential Election?

Thanks.What conservative beliefs do you consider worthy of being labeled "moonbat", and why?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You were describing Palin perfectly until you got to the spending the country into oblivion part!!Palin would spend more than Obear or even Bush? how so?

[yermom]

anyone that wants to keep the military in the Middle East is going to spend the country into Bolivia

[jk the sooner fan]

right wing moon bat, left wing doosh bag

it all equals out...

[lexsooner]

It will make little difference whether Obama is re-elected or a GOP contender wins. The system is so entrenched that nobody's good intentions will make much of an impact. Wall Street, Big Business, the Unions, and other influential groups will always get their bread buttered and the middle class will continue to get the short stick. This partisan bickering is a waste of air which could be used by someone's pet hamster.

[delhalew]

Spending a couple days in Minnesota, reminded me what I can't stand about Palin. I don't think she's stupid, I don't think she's evil. I just can't stand the sound of her shrill oddly midwestern voice.

[The Profit]

You're not a moon bat, you're just mildly retarded.


:D :D :D

[KantoSooner]

Spending a couple days in Minnesota, reminded me what I can't stand about Palin. I don't think she's stupid, I don't think she's evil. I just can't stand the sound of her shrill oddly midwestern voice.

I subjected her voice to computerized analysis and the result that came back was: 80% Ontario, Canada; 20% North Dakota insane survivalist.

I was a bit surprised, but it seemed about right.

[JohnnyMack]

So nobody. You have no one to offer up? Gotcha.

[okie52]

So nobody. You have no one to offer up? Gotcha.

Who was your ideal candidate in 2008?

[JohnnyMack]

Who was your ideal candidate in 2008?

Official candidates or unofficial candidates?

[jk the sooner fan]

So nobody. You have no one to offer up? Gotcha.

ridiculous


we have a primary process - and the "right wing moon bats" get to debate and decide next year during the convention

i'm guessing you got over your Obama buyers remorse?

[BudSooner]

Your search is over.....


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/extramustard/images/Ron.Jeremy.jpg

[JohnnyMack]

ridiculous


we have a primary process - and the "right wing moon bats" get to debate and decide next year during the convention

i'm guessing you got over your Obama buyers remorse?

I think you're missing my point and (not surprisingly) taking yourself too seriously. It seems like every time I turn around the fringe right wing element is screeching about the Republican candidate du jour. How they're not electable, they're too libertarian and not representative of the Republican base, etc. I was simply curious who our most ardent right wing members thought would make the best candidate? It wasn't meant to be a scenario where I was thumbing my nose at the R's and saying they didn't stand a chance against BHO. Apologies if it came across that way.

[okie52]

Official candidates or unofficial candidates?

Either way.

[BillyBall]

You're not a moon bat, you're just mildly retarded.

:D

[OutlandTrophy]

do I get to vote?

[jk the sooner fan]

I think you're missing my point and (not surprisingly) taking yourself too seriously. It seems like every time I turn around the fringe right wing element is screeching about the Republican candidate du jour. How they're not electable, they're too libertarian and not representative of the Republican base, etc. I was simply curious who our most ardent right wing members thought would make the best candidate? It wasn't meant to be a scenario where I was thumbing my nose at the R's and saying they didn't stand a chance against BHO. Apologies if it came across that way.

so you were trolling? ;)

[JohnnyMack]

so you were trolling? ;)

I was trying to pull some meaningful conversation out of those three in terms of what they wanted in a Republican POTUS candidate, not just them complaining about the ones who have already announced. I mean clearly they want Zombie Reagan to run for office, but in lieu of that what would they like?

And yes. A little.

[jk the sooner fan]

I was trying to pull some meaningful conversation out of those three in terms of what they wanted in a Republican POTUS candidate, not just them complaining about the ones who have already announced. I mean clearly they want Zombie Reagan to run for office, but in lieu of that what would they like?

And yes. A little.

i almost always start out attempts at meaningful conversation by using terms like "moon bat"

[NormanPride]

How sad is it when Tuba isn't even mentioned in the right wing moonbat crew? :D

[JohnnyMack]

How sad is it when Tuba isn't even mentioned in the right wing moonbat crew? :D

He's the Derek Jeter of moonbats. He's totally past his prime.

[MsProudSooner]

It will make little difference whether Obama is re-elected or a GOP contender wins. The system is so entrenched that nobody's good intentions will make much of an impact. Wall Street, Big Business, the Unions, and other influential groups will always get their bread buttered and the middle class will continue to get the short stick. This partisan bickering is a waste of air which could be used by someone's pet hamster.

I really hope this isn't true, but I suspect that it is.

[StoopTroup]

I think you're missing my point and (not surprisingly) taking yourself too seriously. It seems like every time I turn around the fringe right wing element is screeching about the Republican candidate du jour. How they're not electable, they're too libertarian and not representative of the Republican base, etc. I was simply curious who our most ardent right wing members thought would make the best candidate? It wasn't meant to be a scenario where I was thumbing my nose at the R's and saying they didn't stand a chance against BHO. Apologies if it came across that way.

But let's face it....none of them stand a chance against BHO. He killed OBL and it sounds like we got another Taliban this morning while Brack was having a Guiness in Ireland....:D

Taliban's Mullah Omar reported dead

MULLAH OMAR, the spiritual leader of the Taliban and a former de facto head of state in Afghanistan, has been killed, local reports say.

His death, if confirmed, would be the second significant terrorist target claimed in a month, after the al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden, was assassinated on May 1.

The two were associates. Mullah Omar, the head of the Taliban regime that controlled Afghanistan between 1996 and 2001, reportedly sheltered bin Laden before and after the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/talibans-mullah-omar-reported-dead-20110523-1f0uy.html

[Sooner_Tuf]

It will make little difference whether Obama is re-elected or a GOP contender wins. The system is so entrenched that nobody's good intentions will make much of an impact. Wall Street, Big Business, the Unions, and other influential groups will always get their bread buttered and the middle class will continue to get the short stick. This partisan bickering is a waste of air which could be used by someone's pet hamster.

This is pretty much how I feel about most of the Government.

[pphilfran]

My money is on some no name...

[SoonerNate]

I kind of like Pawlenty or Cain (I'd like to see the first true black president.)

[pphilfran]

I kind of like Pawlenty or Cain (I'd like to see the first true black president.)

I would consider both of those as "no names"....

[Sooner_Tuf]

I was trying to pull some meaningful conversation out of those three in terms of what they wanted in a Republican POTUS candidate, not just them complaining about the ones who have already announced. I mean clearly they want Zombie Reagan to run for office, but in lieu of that what would they like?

And yes. A little.

I would like to see another candidate like Reagan. But even a clone of Reagan wouldn't get a lot accomplished. There is another twenty years of bad legislation on the books since we last called him President.

We need someone that can stand up and pass some laws that make us operate within the monies available at the time. Whether we like it or not we cannot continue to have so many nonproductive members of society.

The sooner we put a stop to that the better. It only gets harder as time goes by. If we wait until we are absolutely bankrupt to do so we are going to make recovery incredibly difficult if not impossible. It just seems smarter to me to do it with a plan where we have some control rather than wait for disaster.

The United States of America has provided the best conditions for more people than any other country in history. It is dumb to flush that down the toilet but that is exactly what we are doing.

[StoopTroup]

I kind of like Pawlenty or Cain (I'd like to see the first true black president.)

So how do we really know he's truely black? Have you run down his family tree like you did Obama's?

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154659

I'm thinking we will file Nate under "Moonbat"

[SoonerNate]

What's this "we" ****?

[StoopTroup]

What's this "we" ****?

I just asked you the same thing in your other "Moonbat" Thread about him not or definitely being white or black or Kenyan or Irish.....

I'm just hoping for some clarity....

Really Nate....I think if you drop the hatred....the confusion you write will begin to subside.

[The Profit]

I would like to see another candidate like Reagan. But even a clone of Reagan wouldn't get a lot accomplished. There is another twenty years of bad legislation on the books since we last called him President.

We need someone that can stand up and pass some laws that make us operate within the monies available at the time. Whether we like it or not we cannot continue to have so many nonproductive members of society.

The sooner we put a stop to that the better. It only gets harder as time goes by. If we wait until we are absolutely bankrupt to do so we are going to make recovery incredibly difficult if not impossible. It just seems smarter to me to do it with a plan where we have some control rather than wait for disaster.

The United States of America has provided the best conditions for more people than any other country in history. It is dumb to flush that down the toilet but that is exactly what we are doing.





I would too. He raised taxes 6 times, turned his back on the religious right, only attacked small "easy to defeat countries" and had a decent looking daughter, who didn't mind showing her tits....There is not much to argue with there.

[OhU1]

Do the tea party guys really have candidates? Don't they just like to complain and feel persecuted and listen to talk radio all day while they live off government transfer payments?

[lexsooner]

Do the tea party guys really have candidates? Don't they just like to complain and feel persecuted and listen to talk radio all day while they live off government transfer payments?

They not only listen to local talk radio, but they also try and call in and express their opinions, if they can actually get on. "Hello, am on the air? Sir, turn your radio down! Hello, hello? Sir, there is a five second delay which is confusing you, so turn your radio down, please! Huh? Am I on? Yes, you are on, turn your radio down! What? Am I on? . . . . . I only got one question fer President Hussein Obama: Where was you born????

[lexsooner]

Do the tea party guys really have candidates? Don't they just like to complain and feel persecuted and listen to talk radio all day while they live off government transfer payments?

Well, that would certainly explain why my tea party neighbor is so freakin fat! lol

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i almost always start out attempts at meaningful conversation by using terms like "moon bat"Yes. The Mackster certainly knows how to frame a question.

[OU_Sooners75]

Herman Cain?

http://www.hermancain.com/

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I would like to see another candidate like Reagan. But even a clone of Reagan wouldn't get a lot accomplished. There is another twenty years of bad legislation on the books since we last called him President.

We need someone that can stand up and pass some laws that make us operate within the monies available at the time. Whether we like it or not we cannot continue to have so many nonproductive members of society.

The sooner we put a stop to that the better. It only gets harder as time goes by. If we wait until we are absolutely bankrupt to do so we are going to make recovery incredibly difficult if not impossible. It just seems smarter to me to do it with a plan where we have some control rather than wait for disaster.

The United States of America has provided the best conditions for more people than any other country in history. It is dumb to flush that down the toilet but that is exactly what we are doing.We are cruisin' for a bruisin'. Too many folks on the govt. mammary, and they won't accept any sacrifice, like the private sector has had to do. The tipping point might have already been reached.

[JohnnyMack]

Yes. The Mackster certainly knows how to frame a question.

OK, so I'm not Larry King. Can you please tell me the top 2 people you'd like to see run for the Republican nomination for POTUS in 2012?

[Sooner_Tuf]

I would too. He raised taxes 6 times, turned his back on the religious right, only attacked small "easy to defeat countries" and had a decent looking daughter, who didn't mind showing her tits....There is not much to argue with there.

How exactly does a Republican President raise taxes with a Democrat controlled house and Senate? Facts are always relevant.

[StoopTroup]

How exactly does a Republican President raise taxes with a Democrat controlled house and Senate? Facts are always relevant.

Herman Cain can do it...

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

OK, so I'm not Larry King. Can you please tell me the top 2 people you'd like to see run for the Republican nomination for POTUS in 2012?Larry King would have asked the question the way you did...you ARE Larry King.

[SoonerNate]

It's so fun arguing with these welfare recipients.

[OU_Sooners75]

How do you know anyone on here is on welfare? How do we know you arent on welfare yourself?

[StoopTroup]

Larry King was replaced by a Brit wasn't he?

[jk the sooner fan]

Yes. The Mackster certainly knows how to frame a question.

you're not any better starting conversations FWIW

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

you're not any better starting conversations FWIWFWIW

[StoopTroup]

FWIW

I'd go back to copy and paste...IIWY

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I'd go back to copy and paste...IIWYITYOOIFT?

[StoopTroup]

WTHITRLIMC?

[jk the sooner fan]

i'm sure i'm on vet's **** list now for giving RLIMC a hard time.......

[3rdgensooner]

http://www.arlington-mass.com/moonbat_pride.png

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i'm sure i'm on vet's **** list now for giving RLIMC a hard time.......HATOADawgpound?

[The Profit]

How exactly does a Republican President raise taxes with a Democrat controlled house and Senate? Facts are always relevant.




Easily. He signs them into law. By the way, he proposed 5 of them.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Easily. He signs them into law. By the way, he proposed 5 of them.and, his social engineering did nothing to gain favor with the left. Really pays off to be a RINO, haha.

[soonercoop1]

It will make little difference whether Obama is re-elected or a GOP contender wins. The system is so entrenched that nobody's good intentions will make much of an impact. Wall Street, Big Business, the Unions, and other influential groups will always get their bread buttered and the middle class will continue to get the short stick. This partisan bickering is a waste of air which could be used by someone's pet hamster.

^This....

[StoopTroup]

I wish people would let the hamster thing go....it wasn't my fault....the poor thing was 4 years old.....

[King Fuzzy]

You're sphincter has to let go first.

[XFollower]

I'd vote for Cain.

[lexsooner]

I wish people would let the hamster thing go....it wasn't my fault....the poor thing was 4 years old.....

Wait, don't you really mean gerbil instead of hamster, and were you in an Officer and a Gentleman, or one of two brothers who sells furniture in OKC?

[StoopTroup]

Wait, don't you really mean gerbil instead of hamster, and were you in an Officer and a Gentleman, or one of two brothers who sells furniture in OKC?

No I mean hamster....you have the gerbil confused with someone else....

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[StoopTroup]

poor bastid never stood a chance....

[JohnnyMack]

God I had forgotten about that!

[StoopTroup]

God I had forgotten about that!

I get death threat from PETA folks around once to twice a week now. It used to be more....evidently I started such a wave of hamster deaths that they are going after the real killers now. :D

[soonercruiser]

Who is your ideal candidate for the 2012 Presidential Election?

Thanks.

If Obama is made to run on HIS RECORD - anyone will do!
:D

[StoopTroup]

If Obama is made to run on HIS RECORD - anyone will do!
:D

What record? Your's is broke Bro....you need to get with it. That old stuff ain't gonna help....try a different approach.

Here...

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[OUmillenium]

Gingrich (moderate Rep) + Coburn as VP

[CrimsonCream]

Obama.

./ Added $5 trillion to the deficit
./ Unemployment over 9%
./ Will not defend Arizona's borders
./ Tax cheats in the Cabinet
./ A failed $867 billion Stimulus
./ Sleazy associations like Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Wright, etc
./ Bribe, kick back, intimidation laden heathcare law
./ Redistribution of wealth
./ Transparency
./ Over 1,300 heathcare waivers
./ Can't pass a Budget

The guy is a sleazy, arrogant, lying scumbag that will do and say anything to get elected. (if you put a picture of Obama and Mussolini side by side with their noses in the air you couldn't tell much difference.)

How can anyone actually support this guy?

[tcrb]

How can any intelligent, well-informed person actually support this guy?

fify

[JohnnyMack]

Can you right wing ****nut retards please answer the god damned question? I mean for **** sake we all know you hate Obama. That's so 2008. Just tell me who the **** you want to vote for. ****.

[The Profit]

Can you right wing ****nut retards please answer the god damned question? I mean for **** sake we all know you hate Obama. That's so 2008. Just tell me who the **** you want to vote for. ****.




You definitely have a way with words...

[tcrb]

At this point JM, I'll vote for just about anyone who is running against Barry O. But if I had a say in who that is, I'd pick Ron Paul. But as has already been noted, the Repubs seem to be imploding and cant get their sh!t together when it comes to picking a candidate and there is no clear front runner, unless you consider Romney, even though I dont think he has "officially" declared. He wouldn't be my choice, but he couldn't be any worse than BO or W, IMO.

Incidentally, I guess since I responded to your question, this post places me in the "rw moonbat" crowd, or maybe you could go as far as putting me on the "rw ****nut retard" list as well. :confused: (but I really just consider myself to be a moderate that sits a little right of center). ;)

[JohnnyMack]

At this point JM, I'll vote for just about anyone who is running against Barry O. But if I had a say in who that is, I'd pick Ron Paul. But as has already been noted, the Repubs seem to be imploding and cant get their sh!t together when it comes to picking a candidate and there is no clear front runner, unless you consider Romney, even though I dont think he has "officially" declared. He wouldn't be my choice, but he couldn't be any worse than BO or W, IMO.

Incidentally, I guess since I responded to your question, this post places me in the "rw moonbat" crowd, or maybe you could go as far as putting me on the "rw ****nut retard" list as well. :confused: (but I really just consider myself to be a moderate that sits a little right of center). ;)

All I want is answers. I'm gonna start waterboarding mother****ers. You're safe.

[Position Limit]

Can you right wing ****nut retards please answer the god damned question? I mean for **** sake we all know you hate Obama. That's so 2008. Just tell me who the **** you want to vote for. ****.

they cant answer that question. they cant get out of the obama hate box. their bitterness will reach a fever pitch after he stomps whatever cheesedick they trot out to run against him next year.

[StoopTroup]

At this point JM, I'll vote for just about anyone who is running against Barry O. But if I had a say in who that is, I'd pick Ron Paul. But as has already been noted, the Repubs seem to be imploding and cant get their sh!t together when it comes to picking a candidate and there is no clear front runner, unless you consider Romney, even though I dont think he has "officially" declared. He wouldn't be my choice, but he couldn't be any worse than BO or W, IMO.

Incidentally, I guess since I responded to your question, this post places me in the "rw moonbat" crowd, or maybe you could go as far as putting me on the "rw ****nut retard" list as well. :confused: (but I really just consider myself to be a moderate that sits a little right of center). ;)

That sounds like John Kerry helped you write that....lol

[StoopTroup]

The Republican approach is still in Shock and Awe Mode....

[tcrb]

That sounds like John Kerry helped you write that....lol

Cut & Paste is a cool feature. :cool:

[StoopTroup]

Cut & Paste is a cool feature. :cool:

lol....

If the next Republican Candidate is a dude in a Blue Turban....Would you still vote for him? :D

[StoopTroup]

Anyone see John Lithgow's Newt speech on Colbert? LMAO!

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[tcrb]

lol....

If the next Republican Candidate is a dude in a Blue Turban....Would you still vote for him? :D

Probably not. But I'd consider voting for a dude in a Crimson turban. :)

[soonerchk]

I refuse to read this, but I do have a question - Nate, do you just sit around hitting refresh on the Drudge Report/FoxNews and post whatever comes up?

If this has already been answered, then oops. And I have started using the phrase "Moon Bats" in daily conversation, so thanks for that one!

[CrimsonCream]

Mods,

Why do you continue to let tcrb post under my User Name?

[tcrb]

Mods,

Why do you continue to let tcrb post under my User Name?

Stop fretting about the small stuff and answer JM's questions before you get waterboarded!

[StoopTroup]

Obama.

./ Added $5 trillion to the deficit
./ Unemployment over 9%
./ Will not defend Arizona's borders
./ Tax cheats in the Cabinet
./ A failed $867 billion Stimulus
./ Sleazy associations like Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Wright, etc
./ Bribe, kick back, intimidation laden heathcare law
./ Redistribution of wealth
./ Transparency
./ Over 1,300 heathcare waivers
./ Can't pass a Budget

The guy is a sleazy, arrogant, lying scumbag that will do and say anything to get elected. (if you put a picture of Obama and Mussolini side by side with their noses in the air you couldn't tell much difference.)

How can anyone actually support this guy?

If you actually had some proof he was responsible rather than just a list of stuff you made up....it would probably incite the masses to do something and truly find a Candidate to stand up to him. Somehow BHO continues to get ****loads of money for his campaign even though you have pointed out what the colossal and waste of our resources he single-handedly has used to put us in this hole.

I think the weirdest part is that a good portion of America so wants to believe you are right....but they really want a candidate that will come in and actually do something about it. That's where your postings fail. You act like we are all a bunch of idiots that can't tell anything is wrong but you fail to add the name of the candidates, Senators, Representatives and Governors who are ready to cut the folks who continue to not only send the POTUS legislation to sign to keep things going....but legislation that will either immediately address what we need to do to stop us from defaulting on our interest payments on the National Debt....or to actually pass legislation that will actually stop the spending right now so that we won't have to extend the debt ceiling. We have to do something well before the 2012 election and it looks like the GOP is willing to help cause a collapse / default and try and stick the blame on the POTUS as they aren't going to agree with any of his attempts to limit the amount of cuts in entitlement spending and take a slow approach that would make them go to their constituents and ask them to take cuts as well.

Some here on the Board are ready to support Herman Cain who would do exactly that and try to institute a Fair Tax system that would do exactly what the Republicans don't want to do....raise taxes on the rich. Why would they do this? Maybe to oust the current POTUS and then suddenly drop the Fair Tax Measures and do what Paul Ryan isn't able to pull off right now? Or maybe it's even worse. Maybe it's a full fledged assault on the poor and middle class and would be a "I'm Sorry" from Herman Cain once in Office?

Whatever it might be is this....

The GOP has lost trust on the Tea Partiers and the folks who are for Obama seemingly are coming to the fact that he's still their only hope?

Our Politicians are like dogs backed into a blind alley and we are all waiting to see which one of them rises to the head of the pack and does what it takes to get us out of the mess that we are facing on 8-2-2011.

I'm guessing the POTUS and SCOTUS will end up forcing Congresses hand and we will see a historic moment in America and the Republican Party will either die or morph into a new Party of people who really are who they say they are instead of a bunch of screw their maid and hire illegal aliens to do your yard work types that have been married 2-10 times and run their campaigns on family Values.

I of course could be wrong....They may have a secret candidate I don't know about that they have been keeping on ice waiting for the right moment to surprise us all....

I hope so....because right now....all I see is 4 more years of whining and hatred about Obama when the Republican's have the ability to negotiate a way to deal with this debt and possibly get the White House back in 2016.

I'm not sure they can get their cake and eat it too at this point.

[delhalew]

All I want is answers. I'm gonna start waterboarding mother****ers. You're safe.

How are you supposed to choose from a field of candidates without watching debates and closely examining voting records or past policy stances for political new comers.

It seems foolish to make an uninformed decision. I'm in no rush, since I can't vote in the primary.

[CrimsonCream]

Stop fretting about the small stuff and answer JM's questions before you get waterboarded!

Who is JM?

Actually, I think you are suffering from the effects have being waterboarded.

[tcrb]

Who is JM?

Actually, I think you are suffering from the effects have being waterboarded.

JM=JohnnyMack! And dude, if you hear a knock on your door, for God's sake dont answer it or you'll end up on your back with a wet towel over your face!
:gary:

[soonercruiser]

What record? Your's is broke Bro....you need to get with it. That old stuff ain't gonna help....try a different approach.

Here...

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The biggest broken record around this forum, is Stoop telling eveyone else they are wrong, and he is right!
That's the real "broken record"!
:rolleyes:

[soonercruiser]

Can you right wing ****nut retards please answer the god damned question? I mean for **** sake we all know you hate Obama. That's so 2008. Just tell me who the **** you want to vote for. ****.

JM, for GOD's sake!
Get over it! You sound like all the LW pundits trying to get someone to commit to saying something stupid, or that can be taken out of context. Go back to watching Chris Matthews MSNBS if you want that tingly feeling!
:O

[Whet]

I believe the appropriate response is: ABO, which is a similar answer the leftist pones used in 2000 and 2004.

[soonercruiser]

If you actually had some proof he was responsible rather than just a list of stuff you made up....it would probably incite the masses to do something and truly find a Candidate to stand up to him. Somehow BHO continues to get ****loads of money for his campaign even though you have pointed out what the colossal and waste of our resources he single-handedly has used to put us in this hole.

I think the weirdest part is that a good portion of America so wants to believe you are right....but they really want a candidate that will come in and actually do something about it. That's where your postings fail. You act like we are all a bunch of idiots that can't tell anything is wrong but you fail to add the name of the candidates, Senators, Representatives and Governors who are ready to cut the folks who continue to not only send the POTUS legislation to sign to keep things going....but legislation that will either immediately address what we need to do to stop us from defaulting on our interest payments on the National Debt....or to actually pass legislation that will actually stop the spending right now so that we won't have to extend the debt ceiling. We have to do something well before the 2012 election and it looks like the GOP is willing to help cause a collapse / default and try and stick the blame on the POTUS as they aren't going to agree with any of his attempts to limit the amount of cuts in entitlement spending and take a slow approach that would make them go to their constituents and ask them to take cuts as well.

Some here on the Board are ready to support Herman Cain who would do exactly that and try to institute a Fair Tax system that would do exactly what the Republicans don't want to do....raise taxes on the rich. Why would they do this? Maybe to oust the current POTUS and then suddenly drop the Fair Tax Measures and do what Paul Ryan isn't able to pull off right now? Or maybe it's even worse. Maybe it's a full fledged assault on the poor and middle class and would be a "I'm Sorry" from Herman Cain once in Office?

Whatever it might be is this....

The GOP has lost trust on the Tea Partiers and the folks who are for Obama seemingly are coming to the fact that he's still their only hope?

Our Politicians are like dogs backed into a blind alley and we are all waiting to see which one of them rises to the head of the pack and does what it takes to get us out of the mess that we are facing on 8-2-2011.

I'm guessing the POTUS and SCOTUS will end up forcing Congresses hand and we will see a historic moment in America and the Republican Party will either die or morph into a new Party of people who really are who they say they are instead of a bunch of screw their maid and hire illegal aliens to do your yard work types that have been married 2-10 times and run their campaigns on family Values.

I of course could be wrong....They may have a secret candidate I don't know about that they have been keeping on ice waiting for the right moment to surprise us all....

I hope so....because right now....all I see is 4 more years of whining and hatred about Obama when the Republican's have the ability to negotiate a way to deal with this debt and possibly get the White House back in 2016.

I'm not sure they can get their cake and eat it too at this point.

The interesting thing about this loooooooooonnnnnng post is.....
You can substitute the words LW liberals....and GW.....and the meaning and actions are the same!
And, no doubt Stoop had no outrage then!
Duh!

Any good American would vehemently oppose a socialist who is out to destroy and bankrupt the Republic!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

How are you supposed to choose from a field of candidates without watching debates and closely examining voting records or past policy stances for political new comers.

It seems foolish to make an uninformed decision. Correct answer, plus the question of what conservative ideas constitute being named as "moonbat" should be answered.

[yermom]

seems it's actions, not ideas that make one a moonbat

[TitoMorelli]

If you actually had some proof he was responsible rather than just a list of stuff you made up....


./ Over 1,300 heathcare waivers
./ Bribe, kick back, intimidation laden heathcare law

The Obama administration approved 204 new waivers to Democrats' healthcare reform law over the past month, bringing the total to 1,372.


http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/161203-hhs-approves-200-more-new-healthcare-reform-waivers-

So when Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu took millions of dollars for their respective states in exchange for their support for HCR, that wasn't a bribe? We should also assume that no politician who faced the furor at town hall meetings over the summer of 2009 needed to have his/her arm twisted in order to get them to vote for a program that so far is only impressive for the ever-growing number of Obama supporters being exempted?



./ A failed $867 billion Stimulus


The stimulus saved or created public sector jobs while hurting private sector job growth....so who pays for those public sector jobs? Too bad we can't count on taxes from the million new private-sector jobs that the economists cited below believe were forestalled or prevented by the stimulus:


http://web.econ.ohio-state.edu/dupor/arra10_may11.pdf



./ Unemployment over 9%

Unemployment Rate:
9.0% in Apr 2011

http://www.bls.gov/

At what point do we begin blaming this administration, or quit letting it continue to blame others, for the lack of improvement?


./ Tax cheats in the Cabinet After all, it was only the Secretary of the Treasury

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Geithner#Personal_tax_issues


./ Sleazy associations like Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Wright, etc

Do we really need a link for this one? So do you deny that he associated with them, or do you just feel that no association with unapologetic domestic terrorists, convicted criminals or race- and hate-baiting preachers should ever be considered sleazy? (Of course that list just might also describe most of the South Oval regulars - noobs excluded, of course.)


What pizzes me more than what is listed above is the constant blame-game being played by the man who promised to be a uniter and post-partisan leader. Blame the rich, blame the oil companies, blame the GOP, blame Bush (endlessly), blame the Cambridge police, blame and tar and feather anyone who speaks out against this administration or its policies.

It also ticks me that this administration pressured Honduras to allow its former president Zeleya - who had been overthrown after attempting to use force to establish himself as a perpetual president not subject to such trivia as constitutional term limits or honest elections - to return to power, and has turned a cold shoulder towards one of our best SA allies, Colombia, all the while making nice with Chavez.

It ticks me royally that members of this administration opted to reward its union supporters in the Chrysler bailout, and dictated who could or couldn't keep their dealerships, and told those who thought they had invested low-risk low-return capital into Chrysler that they had to go to the back of the line, which flies in the face of long-established law and practice.



....I of course could be wrong....

You get a lot of things right, Stoop. And yeah, the hating goes too far, too often.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

seems it's actions, not ideas that make one a moonbatGo on

[soonercruiser]

I think you're missing my point and (not surprisingly) taking yourself too seriously. It seems like every time I turn around the fringe right wing element is screeching about the Republican candidate du jour. How they're not electable, they're too libertarian and not representative of the Republican base, etc. I was simply curious who our most ardent right wing members thought would make the best candidate? It wasn't meant to be a scenario where I was thumbing my nose at the R's and saying they didn't stand a chance against BHO. Apologies if it came across that way.

Suuuuure!
JM has never thumbed his nose at conservative thought, has he?
:rolleyes:

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Suuuuure!
JM has never thumbed his nose at conservative thought, has he?
:rolleyes:Of course not. We must conclude that the term "moonbat" has a different emotive meaning and/or actual meaning to him than it does to the rest of us.

[soonercruiser]

MY cooments in RED.


If you actually had some proof he was responsible rather than just a list of stuff you made up....it would probably incite the masses to do something and truly find a Candidate to stand up to him. Somehow BHO continues to get ****loads of money for his campaign
(GEORGE SOROS).......even though you have pointed out what the colossal and waste of our resources he single-handedly has used to put us in this hole.

I think the weirdest part is that a good portion of America so wants to believe you are right....but they really want a candidate that will come in and actually do something about it. That's where your postings fail. You act like we are all a bunch of idiots that can't tell anything is wrong but you fail to add the name of the candidates, Senators, Representatives and Governors who are ready to cut the folks who continue to not only send the POTUS legislation to sign to keep things going....but legislation that will either immediately address what we need to do to stop us from defaulting on our interest payments on the National Debt....or to actually pass legislation that will actually stop the spending right now so that we won't have to extend the debt ceiling.
(Apparently you are not following what is going on in Congress - only willing to attack the "Ryan Prposal") We have to do something well before the 2012 election and it looks like the GOP is willing to help cause a collapse / default and try and stick the blame on the POTUS as they aren't going to agree with any of his attempts to limit the amount of cuts in entitlement spending and take a slow approach that would make them go to their constituents and ask them to take cuts as well.

Our Politicians are like dogs backed into a blind alley and we are all waiting to see which one of them rises to the head of the pack and does what it takes to get us out of the mess that we are facing on 8-2-2011.

I'm guessing the POTUS and SCOTUS will end up forcing Congresses hand and we will see a historic moment in America and the Republican Party will either die or morph into a new Party of people who really are who they say they are instead of a bunch of screw their maid and hire illegal aliens to do your yard work types that have been married 2-10 times and run their campaigns on family Values.

I of course could be wrong....They may have a secret candidate I don't know about that they have been keeping on ice waiting for the right moment to surprise us all....

I hope so....because right now....all I see is 4 more years of whining and hatred about Obama when the Republican's have the ability to negotiate a way to deal with this debt and possibly get the White House back in 2016.

I'm not sure they can get their cake and eat it too at this point.

It's the Demoncrats that are intransigent on making necessary cuts to cut the deficit! Their idiology will come before the good of the Republic!
Obama displays no leadership skills to deal with it!

Unlike Obamacare (where he led) - Obama just waits to see what the Repubicans come up with so he can attack it as throwing the poor old lady over the cliff!
He can only demagogue the difficult and significant issues of our time!
(This is what makes us believe that he truely want a total collapse!)
(Because he was only trained to create conflict - community organizer!)
Cuts and adjustment in the future of Medicare and SS ARE THE ONLY WAY MAKE ENDS MEET! But, Obama and the Dem dufusses think they can tax their way out of bankruptcy.
Duh!

[JohnnyMack]

How are you supposed to choose from a field of candidates without watching debates and closely examining voting records or past policy stances for political new comers.

It seems foolish to make an uninformed decision. I'm in no rush, since I can't vote in the primary.

You don't even have an opinion on who you'd like to run? An opinion on someone you think is capable of beating BHO? You need to spend less time doing beer and more time reading the news.

[JohnnyMack]

JM, for GOD's sake!
Get over it! You sound like all the LW pundits trying to get someone to commit to saying something stupid, or that can be taken out of context. Go back to watching Chris Matthews MSNBS if you want that tingly feeling!
:O

MSNBC is a giant pile of steaming horsehit, rivaled only by Fox. They're both abortions. I just want you to offer up some opinions on people you consider viable candidates.

[soonercruiser]

MSNBC is a giant pile of steaming horsehit, rivaled only by Fox. They're both abortions. I just want you to offer up some opinions on people you consider viable candidates.

JM,
After "believing" in McLame........and getting burned, we true conservatives will be hard to pin down for nearly a year.
"Trust no one", says agent Molder!

[CrimsonCream]

JM=JohnnyMack! And dude, if you hear a knock on your door, for God's sake dont answer it or you'll end up on your back with a wet towel over your face!
:gary:

Dude, you must be talking from experience.

[tcrb]

Dude, you must be talking from experience.

Read the thread. I answered his questions and he gave me a pass. But watch your back, he's still out there, looking to waterboard every moonbat he can get his hands on.:rolleyes:

And dont bother changing your password. I'll just steal it again and keep posting under your name. :pop:

[soonercoop1]

Cain/West 2012

[sanantoniosooner]

Correct answer, plus the question of what conservative ideas constitute being named as "moonbat" should be answered.

I definitely think "moonbat" is more of a behavior thing than a political philosophy.

And if moonbats are repetitive and obsessive, he nailed you.:D

[texaspokieokie]

You don't even have an opinion on who you'd like to run? An opinion on someone you think is capable of beating BHO? You need to spend less time doing beer and more time reading the news.

it's a long time till election, i propose more beer & less news watching.

[StoopTroup]

it's a long time till election, i propose more beer & less news watching.

What about the sexy time?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I definitely think "moonbat" is more of a behavior thing than a political philosophy.

And if moonbats are repetitive and obsessive, he nailed you.:DAs best I can tell, he won't anwer why the insult, and it didn't apply just to me with the opening question. I get it that you don't like political discussions, and wonder why you don't get it that all you have to do is just DON'T CLICK...

[JohnnyMack]

As best I can tell, he won't anwer why the insult, and it didn't apply just to me with the opening question. I get it that you don't like political discussions, and wonder why you don't get it that all you have to do is just DON'T CLICK...

Answer the question. Name two people you think you'd like to see win the R nomination. This isn't some sort of trap or an effort at a gotcha. I'm trying to move you from a "that side is bad" mentality to a "this is the position I support and this is why" mentality.

[Mongo]

Answer the question. Name two people you think you'd like to see win the R nomination. This isn't some sort of trap or an effort at a gotcha. I'm trying to move you from a "that side is bad" mentality to a "this is the position I support and this is why" mentality.

Christie and any other slapdick

[soonercruiser]

it's a long time till election, i propose more beer & less news watching.

I'm in!
:D

[sanantoniosooner]

As best I can tell, he won't anwer why the insult, and it didn't apply just to me with the opening question. I get it that you don't like political discussions, and wonder why you don't get it that all you have to do is just DON'T CLICK...

Political discussions don't happen around here.

Political catfights maybe.

Partisan bickering definitely.

Sweeping generalizations constantly.

Button pushing all the time.

discussions.......not so much.

Go ahead and tell us about the time(on this board) somebody convinced you to change your perception regarding an issue, or you managed to accomplish the task with them?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Political discussions don't happen around here.

Political catfights maybe.

Partisan bickering definitely.

Sweeping generalizations constantly.

Button pushing all the time.

discussions.......not so much.

Go ahead and tell us about the time(on this board) somebody convinced you to change your perception regarding an issue, or you managed to accomplish the task with them?Well, even you know that SOCIALISM SUCKS. End of discussion. click...or don't.

[SoonerBread]

Answer the question. Name two people you think you'd like to see win the R nomination. This isn't some sort of trap or an effort at a gotcha. I'm trying to move you from a "that side is bad" mentality to a "this is the position I support and this is why" mentality.

If that were true, why make a snarky remark in the thread title?

It is a very Rachel Maddow-y way to try to engage someone in an honest discussion, and completely takes away from your alleged intention.

It's like saying, "Hey, dumbass, why should I think such-and-such is better than whatchamacallit?"

[Blue]

If that were true, why make a snarky remark in the thread title?

It is a very Rachel Maddow-y way to try to engage someone in an honest discussion, and completely takes away from your alleged intention.

It's like saying, "Hey, dumbass, why should I think such-and-such is better than whatchamacallit?"

Eggzactly. SB meet JM.

[yermom]

there is no reasoning with mootbats

or dumbasses

[sanantoniosooner]

Well, even you know that SOCIALISM SUCKS. End of discussion. click...or don't.

Do people ever change their mind or do they just enjoy arguing?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Do people ever change their mind or do they just enjoy arguing?My guess would be YES to both questions.

[JohnnyMack]

If that were true, why make a snarky remark in the thread title?

It is a very Rachel Maddow-y way to try to engage someone in an honest discussion, and completely takes away from your alleged intention.

It's like saying, "Hey, dumbass, why should I think such-and-such is better than whatchamacallit?"

Well, in all fairness the 3 people I singled out haven't shown the ability to engage in rational discourse since they've been posting on this board, so my thread title was in fact a bit tongue in cheek. That being said I really would like to have a discussion about the people that I would a) most like to see run for the nomination and b) think stand the best shot of beating BHO.

[Ike]

Moonbat is a ripoff phrase from Neal boortz. He refers to leftists as moonbats all the time. Perhaps that is the origin of the title of the thread.

Moonbat seems to more appropriately describe a leftist. Wingnut seems more appropriate for an extreme right winger. Jmo.

I think the term has been around a bit longer than Neal Boortz. So his use of the word is irrelevant. Moonbat, wingnut...personally, I don't see the difference.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Moonbat is a ripoff phrase from Neal boortz. He refers to leftists as moonbats all the time. Perhaps that is the origin of the title of the thread.

Moonbat seems to more appropriately describe a leftist. Wingnut seems more appropriate for an extreme right winger. Jmo.Perhaps you have an explanation of what is meant by extreme right winger. Is it someone who requires the people to attend a Christian or Jewish place of worship?...or what?

BTW, I see JM posted recently, and still didn't offer his explanation of moonbat. BIG SURPRISE, huh?

[sanantoniosooner]

My guess would be YES to both questions.

When did somebody actually change their mind and why wasn't the media alerted?

[sanantoniosooner]

When you look at a color spectrum the two far ends start to look very similar.

[The Profit]

Both are jabs at someone's political views, but to me there is a difference. I see pretty much any liberal, especially the far leftists as spacey; thus, moonbats. I see the right wing extremist social conservatives as being nutty; hence, wing nuts.

To each his or her own, but that is how I view it. :)




That is completely fair. I have no problem with that. I see a certain group of conservatives (not all of them) as bible banging right winged wackos. I actually have no problem with fiscal conservatives, but I have no use for social conservatives, who attempt to make everyone follow their strange and archaic rules.

[soonercruiser]

there is no reasoning with mootbats

or dumbasses

This????

People who use these words obviously have their minds already make up one way - even if it is the wrong way.
We're supposed change their minds?????
:rolleyes:

And, JM doesn't like the answers he's gotten so far?
:rolleyes:

[TitoMorelli]

Moonbat is a ripoff phrase from Neal boortz. He refers to leftists as moonbats all the time. Perhaps that is the origin of the title of the thread.

Moonbat seems to more appropriately describe a leftist. Wingnut seems more appropriate for an extreme right winger. Jmo.

That's my take on it, although I see them used interchangeably.

[delhalew]

You don't even have an opinion on who you'd like to run? An opinion on someone you think is capable of beating BHO? You need to spend less time doing beer and more time reading the news.

I could play your game, and speak from my ***.

You'll get your chance to spew venom. We all know what this election is going to be about. Hate. Anyone who thinks BHO is a walking joke is a hateful racist. You all will have nothing positive to point to, so you will tear others down.

Your time will come.

[JohnnyMack]

I could play your game, and speak from my ***.

You'll get your chance to spew venom. We all know what this election is going to be about. Hate. Anyone who thinks BHO is a walking joke is a hateful racist. You all will have nothing positive to point to, so you will tear others down.

Your time will come.

I'm not even an Obama fan. Unless some complete and total dip**** (i.e. Michele Bachmann or Newt Gingrich) gets the R nod I'm not voting for BHO.

I think everybody misreads my positions because I happen to think the Republican party is a joke. Doesn't mean I automatically am some left wing Obama fellating hippie, I just am free of the shackles of the two party system as I think neither is really doing this country any good.

My time will come? WTF does that mean?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You'll get your chance to spew venom. You calling JM a Spitting Cobra?

JM, you can start now. What do you not like about Michelle Bachman?(especially as she might be objectionable enough to actually vote for Obama over her)

[sanantoniosooner]

My time will come? WTF does that mean?

It either meas that you'll get your chance to make fun of the candidates in due time....

or

He's gonna make you squeal like a little piggy.....

[JohnnyMack]

It either meas that you'll get your chance to make fun of the candidates in due time....

or

He's gonna make you squeal like a little piggy.....

Hmmm.....will I have to wear a gimp mask?

[Bourbon St Sooner]

I definitely think "moonbat" is more of a behavior thing than a political philosophy.

And if moonbats are repetitive and obsessive, he nailed you.:D

Well who on this board hasn't JM nailed.



Oh, that's not what you meant.

nm.

[JohnnyMack]

:bsmf:

[delhalew]

I'm not even an Obama fan. Unless some complete and total dip**** (i.e. Michele Bachmann or Newt Gingrich) gets the R nod I'm not voting for BHO.

I think everybody misreads my positions because I happen to think the Republican party is a joke. Doesn't mean I automatically am some left wing Obama fellating hippie, I just am free of the shackles of the two party system as I think neither is really doing this country any good.

My time will come? WTF does that mean?

It means you'll get your chance to tear the candidates down on a personal level. We all do it sometimes. Say what you want, buy that's what you're looking to do.

I'll make an informed decision. If that's not good enough for you I don't care. As I said before, being an indie, it's not my decision to make at this stage. The only reason I commented at all is because you are pushing for answers before we even know who's running. It's stupid.

[JohnnyMack]

It means you'll get your chance to tear the candidates down on a personal level. We all do it sometimes. Say what you want, buy that's what you're looking to do.

I'll make an informed decision. If that's not good enough for you I don't care. As I said before, being an indie, it's not my decision to make at this stage. The only reason I commented at all is because you are pushing for answers before we even know who's running. It's stupid.

It's stupid for us as the American people who come together here from different points in our lives with varying political opinions to throw around names of people who we think should or shouldn't be part of the most important of political processes? We should instead just sit back and be spoon fed information from the media and the political parties themselves? You're bristling at my notion that we should talk shop about the possible candidates when it's something very normal, something we do in my house and among my friends. You're making very little sense here.

I'll go first. I think Chris Christie would be someone who would give BHO a real run for his money. I think he would play well in NJ, PA and the rust belt. If PA fell to the R's Obama would have a tough time winning a second term. It's arguably the most important state in the coming election.

I also would absolutely love to see Ron Paul win the nomination and go against Obama. I think it'd be an amazing series of debates. I'd love to see if on a national level Ron Paul would resonate with the populace.

See, that's what I'm talking about. Offering up opinions and discussing things. Now as I mentioned earlier, the three people I referenced in the title of this thread have in the past done a poor job of offering up anything more than, "HAHA. Obama is a socialist. Marxist. Terrorist. HAHA. <insert random newsmax quote here>, etc."

[delhalew]

It's stupid for us as the American people who come together here from different points in our lives with varying political opinions to throw around names of people who we think should or shouldn't be part of the most important of political processes? We should instead just sit back and be spoon fed information from the media and the political parties themselves? You're bristling at my notion that we should talk shop about the possible candidates when it's something very normal, something we do in my house and among my friends. You're making very little sense here.

I'll go first. I think Chris Christie would be someone who would give BHO a real run for his money. I think he would play well in NJ, PA and the rust belt. If PA fell to the R's Obama would have a tough time winning a second term. It's arguably the most important state in the coming election.

I also would absolutely love to see Ron Paul win the nomination and go against Obama. I think it'd be an amazing series of debates. I'd love to see if on a national level Ron Paul would resonate with the populace.

See, that's what I'm talking about. Offering up opinions and discussing things. Now as I mentioned earlier, the three people I referenced in the title of this thread have in the past done a poor job of offering up anything more than, "HAHA. Obama is a socialist. Marxist. Terrorist. HAHA. <insert random newsmax quote here>, etc."

Whatever. Maybe somebody out there can satisfy you. I'll take part when it's not premature.

[delhalew]

And yes, at this point, I find beer to be much more interesting.

[JohnnyMack]

SOONERFANS BEER SUMMIT TWENTY ELEVEN!!!

[delhalew]

SOONERFANS BEER SUMMIT TWENTY ELEVEN!!!
See, as long as the conversation stays centered on beer, we tend to agree.

[yermom]

what i'm learning from this thread is that you are either side with the moonbats, or you are a commie :D

i guess there are only two parties because that's all you need for "us and them"

[delhalew]

what i'm learning from this thread is that you are either side with the moonbats, or you are a commie :D

i guess there are only two parties because that's all you need for "us and them"

You forgot the beer party. We're as extreme as the left tries to paint the teaparty.

Tea is weak. Go Beer Party. Lol. I wish I could take credit for that. Thank you, Mike Church.

[soonerboy_odanorth]

Huh. I was going to go for the easy "anybody that really pi$$es off JohnnyMack."

Probably redundant and covered already just by saying "Republican"...

[bigfatjerk]

Ron Paul and Herman Cain are my 2 favorites. I would love it if Gary Johnson won too. Don't care much for anyone else running. Romney is pretty much a democrat. Palin is too inconsistent. Perry I would be okay with, but just okay. I think about any of these can beat Obama because Obama is probably going to run an opposite campaign from last time. Because let's face it his record as a president stinks. He can't win on Hope and Change with what he's done.

[SactoSooner]

So how do we really know he's truely black? Have you run down his family tree like you did Obama's?

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154659

I'm thinking we will file Nate under "Moonbat"

Genealogist at your service! According to the 1920 US Census, Herman Cain's maternal grandmother was mulatto. Records for later ancestors and their children also identify them as mulatto.

[yermom]

heh

a little cream in the coffee

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

NSFW

oe9qX-cAbY0

I would vote for this guy