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SoonerofAlabama
5/21/2011, 07:06 PM
Matt Barkley, QB #12 USC. 6'2" 220 Pounds

2009 Stats: 211 Cmp, 352 Att., 2735 Yds, 59.9 Cmp%, 15 TDs, 14 INTs, 17 Sacks, 131.3 QB Rating
2010 Stats: 236 Cmp, 377 Att., 2791 Yds, 62.6 Cmp%, 26 TDs, 12 INTs, 16 Sacks, 141.2 QB Rating

Jordan Jefferson, QB #9 LSU. 6'4" 224 Pounds

2008 Stats: 36 Cmp, 73 Att., 419 Yds, 49.3 Cmp%, 4 TDs, 1 INTs, 9 Sacks,112.9 QB Rating
2009 Stats: 182 Cmp, 296 Att., 2166 Yds, 61.5 Cmp%, 17 TDs, 7 INTs, 34 Sacks, 137.2 QB Rating
2010 Stats: 118 Cmp, 209 Att., 1411 Yds, 56.5 Cmp%, 7 TDs, 10 INTs, 18 Sacks, 114.7 QB Rating

Jacory Harris, QB #12 QB. 6'4" 200 Pounds

2008 Stats: 118 Cmp, 194 Att., 1195 Yds, 60.8 Cmp%, 12 TDs, 7 INTs, 11 Sacks, 125.8 QB Rating
2009 Stats: 242 Cmp, 406 Att., 3352 Yds, 59.6 Cmp%, 24 TDs, 17 INTs, 34 Sacks, 140.1 QB Rating
2010 Stats: 148 Cmp, 270 Att., 1793 Yds, 54.8 Cmp%, 14 TDs, 15 INTs, 10 Sacks, 116.6 QB Rating

All three have missed out on starting every game last seaso, either because of injury or because of another quarterback getting the nod. If you don't agree, tell me why.

JLEW1818
5/21/2011, 07:11 PM
Barkley has a chance to be a first round draft pick. (see Jake Locker if you disagree)

Jordan Jefferson has been the starter for the last 3 years. Why would they change now? Has that ever happened without injury? Benching a 4th year starter b/c he sucks? me dunno, prlly has happened before somewhere. He tore apart the aggies secondary, and Won.

I hate Jacory Harris...i actually hate all 3 qb's listed to be honest.. :D

SoonerofAlabama
5/21/2011, 07:13 PM
Jefferson shared the starting job with Jarret Lee last year though.

OU-HSV
5/21/2011, 07:27 PM
Barkley has a chance to be a first round draft pick. (see Jake Locker if you disagree)

Jordan Jefferson has been the starter for the last 3 years. Why would they change now? Has that ever happened without injury? Benching a 4th year starter b/c he sucks? me dunno, prlly has happened before somewhere. He tore apart the aggies secondary, and Won.

I hate Jacory Harris...i actually hate all 3 qb's listed to be honest.. :D

Yeah we've talked about this on here recently with the early mock drafts/rankings...he's been projected like top 10 in some and ahead of Landry in most or all the ones I've seen. To me it seems ridiculous, but of course I'm not on the West coast/usc bandwagon either.

JLEW1818
5/21/2011, 07:30 PM
Jefferson shared the starting job with Jarret Lee last year though.

i think his Cotton Bowl performance won him the job in 2011

IMHO

Scott D
5/21/2011, 08:06 PM
I doubt Jordan Jefferson is overrated...considering that nobody has him rated as great..maybe fair to good, but not great...most of him is pending this season and what kind of changes Kragthorpe has made to his game.

yankee
5/21/2011, 09:13 PM
I doubt Jordan Jefferson is overrated...considering that nobody has him rated as great..maybe fair to good, but not great...most of him is pending this season and what kind of changes Kragthorpe has made to his game.

Exactly what I was thinking. No one thinks Jordan Jefferson is overrated. He's just a terrible quarterback lol.

sendbaht
5/21/2011, 09:18 PM
Nope, me at Santa Monica High School 1971....

OU-HSV
5/21/2011, 09:47 PM
I doubt Jordan Jefferson is overrated...considering that nobody has him rated as great..maybe fair to good, but not great...most of him is pending this season and what kind of changes Kragthorpe has made to his game.

Very true

SoonerofAlabama
5/21/2011, 10:02 PM
Would it help if I changed it to most untalented?

SoonerDood
5/21/2011, 10:18 PM
LOL at Jacory Harris being a preseason heisman candidate last year. Anytime somebody leads the nation in INTs, you have to make them a Heisman Candidate!

rekamrettuB
5/21/2011, 10:22 PM
Barkley has a chance to be a first round draft pick. (see Jake Locker if you disagree)

Jordan Jefferson has been the starter for the last 3 years. Why would they change now? Has that ever happened without injury? Benching a 4th year starter b/c he sucks? me dunno, prlly has happened before somewhere. He tore apart the aggies secondary, and Won.

I hate Jacory Harris...i actually hate all 3 qb's listed to be honest.. :D

Didn't Chris Rix get benched his SR season a few years ago?

agoo758
5/21/2011, 10:43 PM
i think his Cotton Bowl performance won him the job in 2011

IMHO

That's what they said after the 08 Peach Bowl. I anticipate more inconsistency from Jefferson

oudavid1
5/21/2011, 11:05 PM
I really like Matt Barkley. I think he is a Tom Brady type. Will be a great pro.

SoonerofAlabama
5/21/2011, 11:12 PM
I usually agree with you oudavid, but Matt Barkley is getting too much undeserved credit.

yankee
5/21/2011, 11:18 PM
I really like Matt Barkley. I think he is a Tom Brady type. Will be a great pro.

Explain what a "Tom Brady type" is please. Is Barkley going to go down as one of the top 5 NFL QB's to ever play the game like Brady is?

SoonerofAlabama
5/21/2011, 11:19 PM
I think he means Barkley will always have silly hair. :)

oudavid1
5/21/2011, 11:58 PM
I usually agree with you oudavid, but Matt Barkley is getting too much undeserved credit.

Its one of those....going out on a limb type thing.


Explain what a "Tom Brady type" is please. Is Barkley going to go down as one of the top 5 NFL QB's to ever play the game like Brady is?

No, i mean long-tenured, not mobile, good teammate, well liked, winner. I also think he will marry a supermodel.

Salt City Sooner
5/22/2011, 12:15 AM
Replace Barkley w/ Kellen Moore & I'll agree w/ the list. Moore admittedly had a great year, but take a look at the total defense ranking of the teams that year came against:

#52 Va. Tech
#92 Wyoming
#86 Oregon St.
#112 New Mexico St.
#56 Toledo
#117 San Jose St.
#116 La. Tech
#51 Hawaii
#95 Idaho
#59 Fresno St.
#54 Nevada
#100 Utah St.
#27 Utah

Last I checked, that's one game (& he did have a good game to be sure) vs. a defense with a pulse, & he had almost 3 weeks to get ready for it.

It won't happen anytime soon as BSU probably won't be getting into a BCS conference, but personally, I need more than 1 test per year before I start singing anyone's praises. Hands down, the 2 best defenses he's faced in his career thus far have been the 2 bowl games vs. TCU, & he's been average at best in both contests.

soonercastor
5/22/2011, 02:57 AM
Jordan Jefferson overrated????

The dude sucks and everyone knows and agrees with that.

King Crimson
5/22/2011, 09:11 AM
losing to Jacory Harris and Dan Hawkins are some real sore points with me the last few years.

BigJerm7
5/22/2011, 10:11 AM
Did Harris even finish out the year as the starter? I thought that freshman Stephen Morris came in and finished out the last 4 games of the year?

JLEW1818
5/22/2011, 10:26 AM
K. Moore needs 8 wins to break the all time win's record as a qb

Colt McCoy holds the record at 45
K. Moore is currenlty at 38

StoopTroup
5/22/2011, 10:36 AM
Ask UofM Fans about how they feel about Harris.

They can't wait for him to announce he's going pro or graduate.

oudavid1
5/22/2011, 04:52 PM
Ask UofM Fans about how they feel about Harris.

They can't wait for him to announce he's going pro or graduate.
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yankee
5/22/2011, 07:37 PM
No, i mean long-tenured, not mobile, good teammate, well liked, winner. I also think he will marry a supermodel.

Sounds to me like your describing many starting QB's in the NFL.

Yeah, I would definitely choose a different term than "Tom Brady type".

oudavid1
5/22/2011, 08:33 PM
Sounds to me like your describing many starting QB's in the NFL.

Yeah, I would definitely choose a different term than "Tom Brady type".

That was my point. I think he will be a long term impact player.

Like Tom Brady. He is an underappreciated college winner. Like Tom Brady.

yankee
5/22/2011, 08:47 PM
That was my point. I think he will be a long term impact player.

Like Tom Brady. He is an underappreciated college winner. Like Tom Brady.

Huh? Matt Barkley has gotten more media love since he graduated high school than Tom Brady got in his entire college career.

oudavid1
5/22/2011, 09:08 PM
Huh? Matt Barkley has gotten more media love since he graduated high school than Tom Brady got in his entire college career.

Im not talking media love. Im talking under appreciated. I mean as in like people dont think he will be that good.

LakeRat
5/23/2011, 03:11 PM
How was Tom Brady a college winner? What was his collegiate record as a starter?

Scott D
5/23/2011, 07:40 PM
How was Tom Brady a college winner? What was his collegiate record as a starter?

To be fair, Brady's college record is skewed by the fact that he was forced to share time with Wonderbust Drew Henson because Henson was a local superstar QB.

oudavid1
5/24/2011, 01:50 AM
How was Tom Brady a college winner? What was his collegiate record as a starter?

20-5, Orange Bowl win. That's how.

SoonerofAlabama
5/24/2011, 06:45 AM
Was that Orange Bowl against Alabama?

OU_Sooners75
5/24/2011, 11:08 AM
i think his Cotton Bowl performance won him the job in 2011

IMHO


So last year dictates the next year as far as starters go for coaches?

You may very well be right, but I would not be surprised if they split time again this season.

JLEW1818
5/24/2011, 11:56 AM
So last year dictates the next year as far as starters go for coaches? You may very well be right, but I would not be surprised if they split time again this season.

big time, IMO.

They prlly will split time, 80/20. Jefferson will be the starter, but if he blows it who knows.