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SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 01:39 PM
...in the WH on live television. Netanyahu looked like a true leader and Obama looked like the pu$$y he is.

THAT. WAS. CLASSIC.

Sooner_Tuf
5/20/2011, 01:41 PM
...in the WH on live television. Netanyahu looked like a true leader and Obama looked like the pu$$y he is.

THAT. WAS. CLASSIC.

He didn't even break a sweat doing it. Of course most people wouldn't.

saucysoonergal
5/20/2011, 01:42 PM
So, you guys sit around watching TV all day? Don't you have real jobs adding to the economy?

2121Sooner
5/20/2011, 01:42 PM
Obama's assistant must have been busy
http://catalogs.infocommiq.com/avcat/images%2Fproducts%2Fmain%2FSpeechx3.jpg

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 01:43 PM
...in the WH on live television. Netanyahu looked like a true leader and Obama looked like the pu$$y he is.

THAT. WAS. CLASSIC.

Why don't you record this stuff? I got Dr. Oz....

WTH?

If you are gonna make a life out of taking the POTUS and making his image into a dawg turd....why don't you step up your game Bro?

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 01:45 PM
So, you guys sit around watching TV all day? Don't you have real jobs adding to the economy?

I have a tv in my home office. You either have the desire or work for someone else's desires. I chose the former.

OULenexaman
5/20/2011, 01:46 PM
I was working....what I miss??

soonercruiser
5/20/2011, 01:47 PM
The boy who would be president is clueless. :confused:
His foreign policy is a disaster for the U.S.!
Netanyahu cannot be pressured by the Alinskyians currently in power.
Next thing you know, Obama will be apologizing for Israel.
Then we are going to have to apologize for Obama!
:mad:


Obama rebuffed by Netanyahu on land-for-peace deal
Speaking after an Oval Office meeting that went nearly two hours longer than scheduled, Netanyahu said any deal "cannot go back to the 1967 lines, because these lines are indefensible, because they don't take into account certain changes that have taken place on the ground."

Between 1948 and 1967, Netanyahu said, "These were not the boundaries of peace. They were the bounds of repeated wars."http://www.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/Index

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 01:48 PM
Netanyahu met Obama in the WH and after listening to Obama preach to him he kindly thanked Obama for the kind words and then more or less told Obama that there was no way that Israel would go back to the 1967 lines. He kept speaking for several minutes and Obama just stared at him like "how dare you, don't you know I'm the holy messiah Obama?"

It was a sight to behold. We really have a weak president and today proved it.

soonercruiser
5/20/2011, 01:49 PM
Why don't you record this stuff? I got Dr. Oz....

WTH?

If you are gonna make a life out of taking the POTUS and making his image into a dawg turd....why don't you step up your game Bro?

No videos posted yet!
You are expected to be smart enough to gather your own information.
WE are not your minions Stoop!

3rdgensooner
5/20/2011, 01:51 PM
You should totally change your username to Natenyahoo

Position Limit
5/20/2011, 01:52 PM
go team. fight. win. must spin to score points. yeah politics....

Sooner_Tuf
5/20/2011, 01:55 PM
So, you guys sit around watching TV all day? Don't you have real jobs adding to the economy?

I am at work.

BRB gotta throw some clothes in the dryer and let the dog in.

Sooner_Tuf
5/20/2011, 01:57 PM
Netanyahu met Obama in the WH and after listening to Obama preach to him he kindly thanked Obama for the kind words and then more or less told Obama that there was no way that Israel would go back to the 1967 lines. He kept speaking for several minutes and Obama just stared at him like "how dare you, don't you know I'm the holy messiah Obama?"

It was a sight to behold. We really have a weak president and today proved it.

Seriously what did he think the reaction to telling them they go back 44 years was going to be?

This is why the Israelis don't trust us. And they are right.

Position Limit
5/20/2011, 01:58 PM
I have a tv in my home office. You either have the desire or work for someone else's desires. I chose the former.

selling junk on ebay from you 1 bedroom apartment aint no job chief....

King Fuzzy
5/20/2011, 01:59 PM
Oh yeah. The leader of an apartheid state just pwned the leader of the free world. Does anyone have an animated gif of that yet?

Because I'm pretty sure it goes in the billy sims thread as evidence.

CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 02:03 PM
We really have a weak president and today proved it.

Was there really any doubt?

Just look at the absolute mess we're in.

The Profit
5/20/2011, 02:05 PM
Seriously what did he think the reaction to telling them they go back 44 years was going to be?

This is why the Israelis don't trust us. And they are right.




And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:07 PM
No videos posted yet!
You are expected to be smart enough to gather your own information.
WE are not your minions Stoop!

I've actually got it and I am smart enough to post it...I'm just not thinking that having Israel's Leader "TO TOTALLY PNWN" our POTUS....is something we should be wetting our pants about....lol

Tuf is at work and can't see it. He needs Nate to up his game and is begging for more information. Why can't you guys help a Brother out?

Why you gotta make this about me Bro?

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 02:09 PM
You should totally change your username to Natenyahoo

As ole Eshbach says, "it's gotta ring to it"

Sooner_Tuf
5/20/2011, 02:10 PM
And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it.

I'm not sure it to whom it matters if you trust them or not but we have made promises over there and we need to keep our word. Unless you want to force the Israelis to start a nuclear war because that will be their only option on their own.

I understand what you are saying but it is more complicated than that.

KantoSooner
5/20/2011, 02:10 PM
Seriously what did he think the reaction to telling them they go back 44 years was going to be?

This is why the Israelis don't trust us. And they are right.

You make a good point. I however, am sick and tired of having Israel own our MidEast policy. The Israelis should look out for their own interests, Mazeltov! And we for ours. Israel is only a parttime ally, but uses us full time. Some simple suggestions:

1. Cut off all aid to Israel, and Egypt, etc. IMMEDIATELY.

2. Want to do that cute little two year gig in the Israeli army, as so many Jewish-American kids do? Be my guest. Leave your US passport with the nice man at immigration on your way to the plane. Oh, and when it's time to come 'home', you can get in line with the Mexicans, Russians, Laotians, etc. You'll have an advantage: you speak English and know at least some of the state capitols already.

3. Tighten up the quid pro quo on intelligence sharing/ops. Israel wants satellite imagery? What do they want to trade for it? No more turning a blind eye to Mossad's little snatch-and-grab ops, or spying on US government interests. There are lots of cells on Jonathon Pollard's hallway.

4. You want most favored nation trade conditions? Start extraditing tax cheats, alimony cheats, child support slugs and contract breaching business types.

Oh, yeah Netanyahu 'owned' Obama. I am suspicious that Obama may have had about enough out of Benny, however. And when it's time to yank the choke chain, Benny is going to discover that it's his neck in the collar, not Obama's.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:11 PM
Was there really any doubt?

Just look at the absolute mess we're in.

Again...I continue to ask....

WHERE AND WHEN ARE THE REPUBLICANS GOING TO FIND SOMEONE TO RUN AGAINST THIS GUY?

Should we continue to just elect Republican's in Congress so that we can help them them stop the POTUS from continuing to ruin our Country while they continue to spend our Tax Money like Drunks in a Casino?

Sooner_Tuf
5/20/2011, 02:11 PM
I've actually got it and I am smart enough to post it...I'm just not thinking that having Israel's Leader "TO TOTALLY PNWN" our POTUS....is something we should be wetting our pants about....lol

Tuf is at work and can't see it. He needs Nate to up his game and is begging for more information. Why can't you guys help a Brother out?

Why you gotta make this about me Bro?

I can see it, even without my specs, I have a 46" TV in my "office" ;)

King Fuzzy
5/20/2011, 02:12 PM
Let's all just sit back and admire the brains StoopTroup is carrying around. Not only is he smart enough to find something on the internet. He's also smart enough to completely destroy any sense that President Obama handled himself well by refusing to post it.

Well played. And I thought the terrorists had won.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:12 PM
Oh, yeah Netanyahu 'owned' Obama. I am suspicious that Obama may have had about enough out of Benny, however. And when it's time to yank the choke chain, Benny is going to discover that it's his neck in the collar, not Obama's.

Nice post

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 02:12 PM
I can see it, even without my specs, I have a 46" TV in my "office" ;)

:)

soonercruiser
5/20/2011, 02:12 PM
Smart a** criticism does go both ways.
You got a problem with defending another poster?

Is it just me; or does it seem like if a post is relatively conservative in the least, Stoop will post to the contrary??
Just sayin'

Position Limit
5/20/2011, 02:13 PM
Was there really any doubt?

Just look at the absolute mess we're in.

dogs and cats living together mass hysteria. DJIA doubling!!! what the hellcrap is going on? the sky is falling! we need another republican in the whitehouse.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:14 PM
I can see it, even without my specs, I have a 46" TV in my "office" ;)

I'm just gonna post some animated gifs now....lol

http://www.ninjavspenguin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/foot-changes-animated.gif

soonercruiser
5/20/2011, 02:15 PM
You make a good point. I however, am sick and tired of having Israel own our MidEast policy. The Israelis should look out for their own interests, Mazeltov! And we for ours. Israel is only a parttime ally, but uses us full time. Some simple suggestions:

1. Cut off all aid to Israel, and Egypt, etc. IMMEDIATELY.

2. Want to do that cute little two year gig in the Israeli army, as so many Jewish-American kids do? Be my guest. Leave your US passport with the nice man at immigration on your way to the plane. Oh, and when it's time to come 'home', you can get in line with the Mexicans, Russians, Laotians, etc. You'll have an advantage: you speak English and know at least some of the state capitols already.

3. Tighten up the quid pro quo on intelligence sharing/ops. Israel wants satellite imagery? What do they want to trade for it? No more turning a blind eye to Mossad's little snatch-and-grab ops, or spying on US government interests. There are lots of cells on Jonathon Pollard's hallway.

4. You want most favored nation trade conditions? Start extraditing tax cheats, alimony cheats, child support slugs and contract breaching business types.

Oh, yeah Netanyahu 'owned' Obama. I am suspicious that Obama may have had about enough out of Benny, however. And when it's time to yank the choke chain, Benny is going to discover that it's his neck in the collar, not Obama's.

Kanto,
It's this simple.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ALLIES LEFT IN THE MIDDLEEAST!!!
And a couple of days ago, Obama has the balls to offer two nations $1 Billion each to overthrow their governments.

Obama is a complete joke!
He is willing to throw Israel under the bus just to get a second Nobel Peace Prize!
(It's all about his legacy)

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:19 PM
Smart a** criticism does go both ways.
You got a problem with defending another poster?

Is it just me; or does it seem like if a post is relatively conservative in the least, Stoop will post to the contrary??
Just sayin'

If you have been here long enough....you might remember where I stated I was a moderate. I don't much care for Republicans who act like liberals and I don't much care for Dems that are Ultra Liberal.

I guess that makes you a Damned Dirty Lib....

I like it when America is positioning itself to remain the World's Superpower instead of the Country that everyone in the World is scared ****less of....but I also don't much care when someone says "Someone should do something about that".....

delhalew
5/20/2011, 02:19 PM
That was an impressive display. Here's to seeing that from an American President again someday.

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 02:22 PM
He's weak. What an embarrassment to the oval office. Where are his handlers? If you are going to get owned you don't allow it to continue.

SanJoaquinSooner
5/20/2011, 02:22 PM
So, you guys sit around watching TV all day? Don't you have real jobs adding to the economy?

Their real job consists of collecting Katie Couric data. Gotta watch lots of TV. Obama data collecting is a side gig.



Go Israelis!

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:22 PM
We of course will continue to make things about me rather than actually posting things with actual thought patterns that resemble the thought patterns some opinion show used subliminal messages in so that you will invest in gold....lol

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:24 PM
I'm gonna try and make you all hungry now....

http://www.wordofmouthexperiment.com/images/SubImagesmin.jpg

sooner59
5/20/2011, 02:24 PM
Kanto,
It's this simple.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ALLIES LEFT IN THE MIDDLEEAST!!!
And a couple of days ago, Obama has the balls to offer two nations $1 Billion each to overthrow their governments.

Obama is a complete joke!
He is willing to throw Israel under the bus just to get a second Nobel Peace Prize!
(It's all about his legacy)

Dude, you should run for the Repub ticket. I think you have what it takes to get the nod.

King Fuzzy
5/20/2011, 02:25 PM
Kanto,
It's this simple.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ALLIES LEFT IN THE MIDDLEEAST!!!
And a couple of days ago, Obama has the balls to offer two nations $1 Billion each to overthrow their governments.

Obama is a complete joke!
He is willing to throw Israel under the bus just to get a second Nobel Peace Prize!
(It's all about his legacy)

Speaking of complete jokes... Seriously? There aren't a lot of people I wouldn't throw under the bus for a peace prize. Where's the bus? Where does the line start? I'll be strutting around Noble America with my peace prize flinging around like mother****in' flava flav goin' "what time?!?!" if all I gotta do is throw some people under a bus!

I can see the school video now. "Sorry about little suzie. She was in the way of my peace prize, bitches!"... Never get between a school bus and someone trying to win a peace prize.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:26 PM
Dude, you should run for the Repub ticket. I think you have what it takes to get the nod.

Do they make Cruisers with bullet proof glass?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/20/2011, 02:27 PM
Can Bebe run for POTUS? Little doubt he would win if eligible. We need a R to take on the American Socialist Society(A*S) like Netanyahu just did.

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 02:28 PM
Can Bebe run for POTUS? Little doubt he would win if eligible. We need a R to take on the American Socialist Society(***) like Netanyahu just did.

It would certainly be nice.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:28 PM
Speaking of complete jokes... Seriously? There aren't a lot of people I wouldn't throw under the bus for a peace prize. Where's the bus? Where does the line start? I'll be strutting around Noble America with my peace prize flinging around like mother****in' flava flav goin' "what time?!?!" if all I gotta do is throw some people under a bus!

I can see the school video now. "Sorry about little suzie. She was in the way of my peace prize, bitches!"... Never get between a school bus and someone trying to win a peace prize.

I like how he threatened all those bastages and basically forced then into giving him that medal....

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:29 PM
Can Bebe run for POTUS? Little doubt he would win if eligible. We need a R to take on the American Socialist Society(A*S) like Netanyahu just did.

What about Rudy?

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/RudyGiuliani.jpg

OULenexaman
5/20/2011, 02:30 PM
Netanyahu met Obama in the WH and after listening to Obama preach to him he kindly thanked Obama for the kind words and then more or less told Obama that there was no way that Israel would go back to the 1967 lines. He kept speaking for several minutes and Obama just stared at him like "how dare you, don't you know I'm the holy messiah Obama?"

It was a sight to behold. We really have a weak president and today proved it. just heard 2 guys on news talk radio KMBZ here and they played it....they said it was a funny sight indeed...took them by complete surprise from what they thought we would see and hear. One caller said he looked like he got tazed....I gotta see this one.:D

pphilfran
5/20/2011, 02:30 PM
fcZtDrkuCd0

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 02:31 PM
I think it would be cool if Rupert Murdock would quit buying off candidates by giving them a TV Show.

3rdgensooner
5/20/2011, 02:40 PM
fcZtDrkuCd0I guess I'm missing the p3wnage.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/20/2011, 02:42 PM
"I guess I'm missing the p3wnage, by choice."- rdgensooner

FIFY

3rdgensooner
5/20/2011, 02:46 PM
"RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! evaded my point" - 3rdgensooner
FIFY

Fraggle145
5/20/2011, 02:48 PM
**** Israel. If we wouldnt have backed thme in the first place we wouldnt be in this mess.

Giving the Jews Israel, is equivalent to giving the indians back America. ****ing stupid.

KantoSooner
5/20/2011, 02:50 PM
Kanto,
It's this simple.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ALLIES LEFT IN THE MIDDLEEAST!!!
And a couple of days ago, Obama has the balls to offer two nations $1 Billion each to overthrow their governments.

Obama is a complete joke!
He is willing to throw Israel under the bus just to get a second Nobel Peace Prize!
(It's all about his legacy)

Perhaps we have no allies at all in the MidEast. And so? What is it there that we really need or want? Oil, you say. Well, we need to buy....but they need to sell. And once it's sold to anyone, it's in world trade and might as well be shipped directly to us.

And so, what if we did tell Israel to shove it?

Let's go maximal: thermonuclear exchange. Results? Not as bad as you might think; though certainly nothing to be wished for: Israel is toast...but so are a number of Arab countries, including Iran, Syria, Lebanon (too bad about that, they've been pretty cool, by and large) and probably Saudi and Egypt. Yes, oil spikes for six months or so....so we all have to walk for a while. But, end of the day? They still have to sell their oil and, absent concerns regarding 'world heritage', the MidEast offers the rest of the planet zippo.


More likely scenario: They all figure out a way to coexist unhappily and we get to stop being Israel's pit bull.

I simply don't see that being Israel's guarantor has bought us much.

cantwait48
5/20/2011, 02:52 PM
not sure ownage is the right word but more like just telling BO to FO in a nice way

3rdgensooner
5/20/2011, 02:55 PM
not sure ownage is the right word but more like just telling BO to FO in a nice wayThis I would agree with. It's not like Obama bowed up on him and Netanyahu squashed him like a bug.

Netanyahu spoke his piece. Good for him.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/20/2011, 02:56 PM
not sure ownage is the right word but more like just telling BO to FO in a nice wayOne can pWnage without being rude.

The Profit
5/20/2011, 03:00 PM
I saw no owning at all. I saw Bebe offer his description of the meeting, and I saw and very respectful President of the United States sit there, look him in the eye and listen. Contrast that, if you will, with an interview that Faux's Bill O'Reilly recently did with our president.

I watched the entire statement, and it sounds to me like our president has made great headway with Netanyahu, and that Israel is finally ready to begin a peaceful process of allowing the Palestinians to have a home.

Nope. No owning at all.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 03:02 PM
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CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 03:05 PM
Again...I continue to ask....

WHERE AND WHEN ARE THE REPUBLICANS GOING TO FIND SOMEONE TO RUN AGAINST THIS GUY?

It is sad, isn't it?

The Republicans need to find someone like Gingrich without the baggage and grab Obama by the nuts and squeeze and call bullsh*t every time he lies, distorts and speaks half-truths. McCain was a p*ssy.

Of course, Gingrich could say that every time you bring up my personal life then we're going to talk about Ayers and Dorhn, Resko, Wright, et. But, of course, Obama will let the corrupt Media fight that battle for him.

OULenexaman
5/20/2011, 03:05 PM
I guess I'm missing the p3wnage. DAMN...Michelle said the same thing...

delhalew
5/20/2011, 03:08 PM
not sure ownage is the right word but more like just telling BO to FO in a nice way

Well, that's the thing. Every day Brack gets out of bed, he puts his foot in his mouth, or writes a check his butt can't cash. Not good.

King Fuzzy
5/20/2011, 03:10 PM
I simply don't see that being Israel's guarantor has bought us much.

Just wait until tomorrow! Our ticket to ride the UFO to heaven was vouchsafed with Foreign aid to the promised land!

Cash for eternity, baby!!! Cash for eternity.

CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 03:12 PM
(It's all about his legacy)

It is.

Hence, the bribes, kick backs, threats of the passed, corrupt ObamaCare with its 1,300+ waivers and making Unions exempt.

The best thing that happened was that idiot Pelosi losing the House. Obama can't do sh*t now. The Senate will fall in 2011. Obama might very well too.

CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 03:15 PM
[QUOTE=King Fuzzy;3236853Where's the bus? [/QUOTE]

You ever see that You.tube video of a very young Teri Garr in Where's the Bus?

REDREX
5/20/2011, 03:17 PM
Barack looked weak and pissed

CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 03:18 PM
Contrast that, if you will, with an interview that Faux's Bill O'Reilly recently did with our president.

Didn't O'Reilly ask Obama if he had been treated fairly and Obama said Yes.

Revisionist history again, huh?

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 03:21 PM
Barack looked weak and pissed

It's funny how weak he looks once he doesn't have the filtered protection of the press to make him look good.

Of course, maybe he just needed a cigarette.

Spring
5/20/2011, 03:23 PM
It's funny how weak he looks once he doesn't have the filtered protection of the press to make him look good.

Of course, maybe he just needed a cigarette.

http://www.affordablegeeks.com/pants.gif

OUMallen
5/20/2011, 03:28 PM
"I guess I'm missing the p3wnage, by choice."- rdgensooner

FIFY

You mean the entire intro where he's sucking off our country? :confused:

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 03:30 PM
I think it's still salvageable if he's defeated in 2012, but I don't know whether we can get the Newports smell out of the oval office after 8 years.

CrimsonCream
5/20/2011, 03:41 PM
Of course, maybe he just needed a cigarette.

:)

Or a snort of cocaine off of a hooker's back in College.

Once again, the more you see of the unprotected Obama the more you realize what a pathetic President he is.

But that should not be a surprise. What's his background? Community Organizer? Has he ever had a real job before President? Everything has been handed to him.

Very sad indeed.

3rdgensooner
5/20/2011, 03:46 PM
the unprotected ObamaThat is one crrraaaazzzzyyyy euphemism.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 03:52 PM
Can Bebe run for POTUS? Little doubt he would win if eligible. We need a R to take on the American Socialist Society(A*S) like Netanyahu just did.

all he needs is a birth certificate from hawaii.

SoonerProphet
5/20/2011, 03:52 PM
What a disgusting f*cking thread. Buncha godamn traitors lickin' the boots of a foreign country that does absolutley nothing to advance our national interests in order to score partisan political points. Many should be lined up and shot.

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 03:54 PM
Israel and the rest of the middle east can all go **** themselves. Deal with their own problems for a change.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 03:54 PM
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Turd_Ferguson
5/20/2011, 03:54 PM
IBTL

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 03:58 PM
IBTL

Dude everything is copesetic Bro

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 03:59 PM
I saw no owning at all. I saw Bebe offer his description of the meeting, and I saw and very respectful President of the United States sit there, look him in the eye and listen. Contrast that, if you will, with an interview that Faux's Bill O'Reilly recently did with our president.

I watched the entire statement, and it sounds to me like our president has made great headway with Netanyahu, and that Israel is finally ready to begin a peaceful process of allowing the Palestinians to have a home.

Nope. No owning at all.

you need to have heard the POTUS speech, made before the meeting.
Bebe contradicted most all of Barry's points or suggestions.

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 04:02 PM
you need to have heard the POTUS speech, made before the meeting.
Bebe contradicted most all of Barry's points or suggestions.

Excuse me but who gives a **** what Bebe wants, needs or suggests? The pandering that the right in this country does to Israel is a joke.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:05 PM
**** Israel. If we wouldnt have backed thme in the first place we wouldnt be in this mess.

Giving the Jews Israel, is equivalent to giving the indians back America. ****ing stupid.

try to go back to the end of WWII, the Jews had all been displaced from Europe, & the ones that hadn't been exterminated, had no place to go.

nobody (basically) wanted them.

What would you have done with them ???

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:14 PM
Excuse me but who gives a **** what Bebe wants, needs or suggests? The pandering that the right in this country does to Israel is a joke.

the israelis are our allies. that's means something to a lot of people.

Pricetag
5/20/2011, 04:16 PM
So are the French.

SoonerProphet
5/20/2011, 04:21 PM
the israelis are our allies. that's means something to a lot of people.

how has that been working out for us?

The Profit
5/20/2011, 04:22 PM
You know that resident right winged wackos think they are in trouble when they have to rely on a foreign Jew to be their hero.

What happened to Palin, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Huckleberry, Paul, Bachman, etc.? Oh, that's right. They are unelectable.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:24 PM
how has that been working out for us?

OK

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 04:25 PM
On "EndofAmeria.com"....Crazy rich people should not be allowed to buy up that much ad space to promote a webpage that looks like it was designed by a Matt Drudge intern in 1996. If End of America's "brilliant" visionary spent a tenth of that money on actually employing Americans in ways that could add value, instead of running pointless commercials and hoarding a handful of metals, he'd be doing a service to society. Instead, he's merely crying wolf, and when 2012 rolls around and America is still standing I am going to call this dude out so hard. You should, too.

http://www.businessinsider.com/end-of-america-2011-is-bs-2011-4

picasso
5/20/2011, 04:27 PM
And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it.

Sincerely,

Your neighborhood Nazi

picasso
5/20/2011, 04:29 PM
You know that resident right winged wackos think they are in trouble when they have to rely on a foreign Jew to be their hero.

What happened to Palin, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Huckleberry, Paul, Bachman, etc.? Oh, that's right. They are unelectable.

Because the dude apparently looked good beside Obama? you're stretching it a bit.

You folks who want to toss aside Israel can go along with them if that happens.

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 04:29 PM
Sincerely,

Your neighborhood Nazi

Godwin's Law, FTW.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:30 PM
actually, the brits fought it.

C&CDean
5/20/2011, 04:31 PM
This thread is yet another sordid reminder why I used to love no politics Fridays.

You people are all sorts of ****ed up.

NormanPride
5/20/2011, 04:33 PM
No ****. What the hell is wrong with you people? Beebe is the reason the Big 12 is ****ed. How could he possibly pwn anyone?

C&CDean
5/20/2011, 04:34 PM
No ****. What the hell is wrong with you people? Beebe is the reason the Big 12 is ****ed. How could he possibly pwn anyone?

Fagzactly.

delhalew
5/20/2011, 04:35 PM
:)

Or a snort of cocaine off of a hooker's back in College.

Once again, the more you see of the unprotected Obama the more you realize what a pathetic President he is.

But that should not be a surprise. What's his background? Community Organizer? Has he ever had a real job before President? Everything has been handed to him.

Very sad indeed.

Can we refrain from disparaging cocaine and hooker's asses. Thank you.

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 04:35 PM
Wow. My pastor is on Glenn Beck right now.

Carry on.

badger
5/20/2011, 04:36 PM
I am listening to the remarks now. I have always thought that Israel is basically like Sarah Connor and the Muslim countries around it are the Terminator (first movie, I mean).

Let's say that instead of just storming into the police station by crashing a car and shooting up the place to find and kill Sarah, the Terminator decided to negotiate with the police.

Terminator: I want to terminate Sarah Connor and if I don't allow me to now, I will not stop ever until she is dead.
Police: OK, stop. We want a peaceful solution here that doesn't involve the deaths of dozens of officers or anyone else.
Terminator: Once Sarah is dead, I will be finished with my mission.
Police: Right, and we know your mission is important to you.
Terminator: My mission is the only reason I was sent back in time and the only reason I exist. I must kill Sarah Connor right now.
Police: WAIT! We want to negotiate.
Terminator: Take me to Sarah Connor so I can terminate her. Go now.
Police: ...
Terminator: I am a friend of Sarah Connor. I was told she was here. Could I see her please?
Police: Nice try.

There is no negotiation. There is no peaceful solution. And it's sad.

Pricetag
5/20/2011, 04:37 PM
Sincerely,

Your neighborhood Nazi
Playing the anti-Semite card? Weak.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:38 PM
who is sarah connor???

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 04:39 PM
Playing the anti-Semite card? Weak.

but appropriate.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 04:46 PM
how has that been working out for us?

When someone bombed Pearl Harbor...how did you feel?

When Tim McVeigh bombed the Murrah Building...how did you feel?

When Osama Bin laden sent his terrorist missionaries to take over planes and fly them into buildings....how did you feel?


Bottomline is this...

The US does everything it can to help keep the Earth free of people who would try to take over other people and smack them with genocide. Instead of going into these places and stopping the genocide....we try to pour money into them to try and help then put Democracy into place. Democracy only comes to those who are willing to defend themselves and even put their lives in jeopardy to do it. Israel does this. We assist them and make deals to help them. Presently maybe and I mean maybe...Obama thinks he can compromise with the Palestinians and give even more precious soil away that the Jews possess and will defend to the Death.

We as a Christian Country must continue to defend Israel's claim on the Holy Land. The Muslims have been free to visit but that's not good enough. They want us to get the Israelis to give them even more land. They got the Gaza Strip. Look how that has gone. There is no way we should help the Palestinians continue to try and infiltrate Israel.

If you aren't Religious.....you should be. If you think what Hitler did to the Jews was something....wait till you see what happens to them when the Muslims finally start a Holy War against them.

After 9-11-01....some Muslims were shocked that their own would kill many of their own people. It is apparent to me that they would kill every Jew in Israel and half of their own people to take over the Holy Land that would be shared with them if they would only quit bombing holy Sites and act like visitors. It's not like Cuba where some maniac forced their people to leave....it's a Holy Site that the Israelis protect and hold dear and share with us Christians.

People should educate themselves instead of continue to support people who's solution is to kill for land.

You would be just as tired of people blowing your friends and family up as the Israelis if it was to happen to you.

Again....

When someone bombed Pearl Harbor...how did you feel?

When Tim McVeigh bombed the Murrah Building...how did you feel?

When Osama Bin laden sent his terrorist missionaries to take over planes and fly them into buildings....how did you feel?

SoonerNate
5/20/2011, 04:51 PM
This thread is yet another sordid reminder why I used to love no politics Fridays.

You people are all sorts of ****ed up.

It's the biggest international story of the day.

Sooner98
5/20/2011, 04:51 PM
Reading the hatred that the board lefties here have for Israel and Jews in general, I continue to be baffled as to why American Jews continue to vote Democrat in overwhelming numbers, year after year.

NormanPride
5/20/2011, 04:53 PM
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Sigh.

delhalew
5/20/2011, 05:00 PM
I am listening to the remarks now. I have always thought that Israel is basically like Sarah Connor and the Muslim countries around it are the Terminator (first movie, I mean).

Let's say that instead of just storming into the police station by crashing a car and shooting up the place to find and kill Sarah, the Terminator decided to negotiate with the police.

Terminator: I want to terminate Sarah Connor and if I don't allow me to now, I will not stop ever until she is dead.
Police: OK, stop. We want a peaceful solution here that doesn't involve the deaths of dozens of officers or anyone else.
Terminator: Once Sarah is dead, I will be finished with my mission.
Police: Right, and we know your mission is important to you.
Terminator: My mission is the only reason I was sent back in time and the only reason I exist. I must kill Sarah Connor right now.
Police: WAIT! We want to negotiate.
Terminator: Take me to Sarah Connor so I can terminate her. Go now.
Police: ...
Terminator: I am a friend of Sarah Connor. I was told she was here. Could I see her please?
Police: Nice try.

There is no negotiation. There is no peaceful solution. And it's sad.

Ok. That is really funny. Also true...and sad, but mostly funny.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:02 PM
Reading the hatred that the board lefties here have for Israel and Jews in general, I continue to be baffled as to why American Jews continue to vote Democrat in overwhelming numbers, year after year.

i'm also baffled.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:03 PM
I guess I'm missing the p3wnage.

Same here. He goes over and over about having the conversation that he's speaking about so that they are both able to send out a message that the Palestinians need to understand that no more land will come their way.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:04 PM
It's the biggest international story of the day.

And yet you fail to understand what just happened.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:06 PM
Same here. He goes over and over about having the conversation that he's speaking about so that they are both able to send out a message that the Palestinians need to understand that no more land will come their way.

did you hear the POTUS speech before the meeting ??

Barry said the israelis should go back to the 1967 boundaries; & Bebe said, basically, **** you !!!

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:07 PM
Barry thru Bebe under the bus.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:09 PM
did you hear the POTUS speech before the meeting ??

Barry said the Israelis should go back to the 1967 boundaries; & Bebe said, basically, **** you !!!

Again....I said maybe he thinks it's possible. I think he's gonna need to understand that he's not going to pull it off. Barry made his "RECOMENDATION"....


Obama, speaking to reporters, did not mention his border demand but stood by his Middle East speech. Obama said Friday that differences remain between the United States and Israel over the Middle East peace process, but that their relationship is "sound and will continue" and differences will be worked out "between friends."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/20/netanyahu-white-house-obamas-mideast-speech/#ixzz1MvvZqmNz

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 05:11 PM
Barry said the israelis should go back to the 1967 boundaries; & Bebe said, basically, **** you !!!

Because that would require Israel giving something. Obama taking a hard line and not giving Israel everything it wants is not a bad thing.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:15 PM
Again....I said maybe he thinks it's possible. I think he's gonna need to understand that he's not going to pull it off. Barry made his "RECOMENDATION"....

nothings changed since 1948.

they'll never get along.

i can partially (only) see the arab's side. who, in 1948, had the right to give away their land ??

i liked what Golda Mier (sp) said, to paraphrase;
there'll never be peace until the arabs begin to love their kids more than they hate the jews.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:17 PM
Because that would require Israel giving something. Obama taking a hard line and not giving Israel everything it wants is not a bad thing.

"obama taking a hard line"

now that's really funny !!!

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:18 PM
Because that would require Israel giving something. Obama taking a hard line and not giving Israel everything it wants is not a bad thing.

it's not obama's to give.

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 05:19 PM
it's not obama's to give.

who, in 1948, had the right to give away their land ??

- texaspokieokie

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:21 PM
who, in 1948, had the right to give away their land ??

- texaspokieokie

that's part of what i said in post # 112.

badger
5/20/2011, 05:22 PM
Ok. That is really funny. Also true...and sad, but mostly funny.

That was actually a quite violent movie for a young badger to watch, so I was actually thinking about that during the movie --- what types of negotiating could be done with the Terminator, if he had only one goal and it was non-negotiable.

So, yes, slight attempt at humor, but also what first came to mind when seeing this discussion.

Also, for politically correct purposes, I would like to add that not all Muslims want Israel purged of its Jewish population, but rather, it seems to be the goal of those who lead these countries, much like some Americans do not want the Chicago Bears to win the Super Bowl, but the leader of this country does (once again, nyah nyah BJ Raji dancing into the endzone with your backup QB's intercepted ball, nyah nyah).

The pictures of the Gaza Strip after Israel abandoned it were very sad. However, Israel's takeover of the Gaza Strip after the Six-Day War... probably not the best foreign relations move.

Considering history, not sure Israel's goal is peace.

JohnnyMack
5/20/2011, 05:23 PM
that's part of what i said in post # 112.

No ****?

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:26 PM
try to go back to the end of WWII, the Jews had all been displaced from Europe, & the ones that hadn't been exterminated, had no place to go.

nobody (basically) wanted them.

What would you have done with them ???

anyone have an answer for this ???

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 05:26 PM
Same here. He goes over and over about having the conversation that he's speaking about so that they are both able to send out a message that the Palestinians need to understand that no more land will come their way.
Troup, Thank you.
Posting your total quote above, What I truly believe is:
[The Palestinians need to understand that no more land
will come their way, period...]
No disrespect to any one here,

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:27 PM
No ****?

guess i missed your point, my bad.

sappstuf
5/20/2011, 05:32 PM
I am listening to the remarks now. I have always thought that Israel is basically like Sarah Connor and the Muslim countries around it are the Terminator (first movie, I mean).

Let's say that instead of just storming into the police station by crashing a car and shooting up the place to find and kill Sarah, the Terminator decided to negotiate with the police.

Terminator: I want to terminate Sarah Connor and if I don't allow me to now, I will not stop ever until she is dead.
Police: OK, stop. We want a peaceful solution here that doesn't involve the deaths of dozens of officers or anyone else.
Terminator: Once Sarah is dead, I will be finished with my mission.
Police: Right, and we know your mission is important to you.
Terminator: My mission is the only reason I was sent back in time and the only reason I exist. I must kill Sarah Connor right now.
Police: WAIT! We want to negotiate.
Terminator: Take me to Sarah Connor so I can terminate her. Go now.
Police: ...
Terminator: I am a friend of Sarah Connor. I was told she was here. Could I see her please?
Police: Nice try.

There is no negotiation. There is no peaceful solution. And it's sad.

That is pretty good.

Party 1: We want to live in peace, we are willing to give up some of the land from which we were attacked, in fact, we already have. But in the end, we want to live in peace.

Party 2: You have no right to exist...

American Left: Party 1 continues to make outrageous demands..

diverdog
5/20/2011, 05:37 PM
Troup, Thank you.
Posting your total quote above, What I truly believe is:
[The Palestinians need to understand that no more land
will come their way, period...]
No disrespect to any one here,

The Jewish state of Israel will die a slow and peaceful death. The simple fact is the Arabs are out breeding the Jews by about 3 to 1. One day they will be the majority in a democratic state and at that point Israel will be gone. Then we can get the hell out of dodge.

SoonerProphet
5/20/2011, 05:41 PM
anyone have an answer for this ???

i'll bite, as soon as someone can explain to me how our alliance with Israel does anything to advance our national interest without mentioning the wordls democracy or jesus.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:46 PM
i'll bite, as soon as someone can explain to me how our alliance with Israel does anything to advance our national interest without mentioning the wordls democracy or jesus.

i don't have an answer.

Jews don't believe in Jesus.

can we not be allies without "advance our national interests" ???

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:46 PM
The Jewish state of Israel will die a slow and peaceful death. The simple fact is the Arabs are out breeding the Jews by about 3 to 1. One day they will be the majority in a democratic state and at that point Israel will be gone. Then we can get the hell out of dodge.

You will ashes by the time that happens.

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 05:47 PM
The Jewish state of Israel will die a slow and peaceful death. The simple fact is the Arabs are out breeding the Jews by about 3 to 1. One day they will be the majority in a democratic state and at that point Israel will be gone. Then we can get the hell out of dodge.

Israel will never be gone.
We will never get the hell out of dodge.
Not in our best interest, Having a home base to watch, wait, listen and negotiate is. Patience my friend, all will come round.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:49 PM
i'll bite, as soon as someone can explain to me how our alliance with Israel does anything to advance our national interest without mentioning the wordls democracy or jesus.

I can. It keeps the next Holy War from happening right here on our own soil between the American Jews and the American Muslims and the Mormans from declaring Utah "Switzerland".
How's that?

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 05:49 PM
You will ashes by the time that happens.

yep, & i bet the "out breeding" is waaaay more than 3 to 1.

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 05:54 PM
Oh and Americans have been out bread by the Chinese for a long time. As smart as many of them are....they are still wise enough to know
not to screw with us.

badger
5/20/2011, 05:54 PM
Just for fun, the Terminator 2 comparison:

T1000: Are you the legal guardians of John Connor?
Palestine: I would totally kill you too if it meant easier killing of Israel.

Foster parents: Yes, what has he done now?
USA: Oh crap, you're gonna raise the price of oil on us again, aren't you?

T1000: Nothing.
Palestine: Just to about $100, then we'll camp the price there awhile while we reap massive profits.

T1000: Just want to ask him a few questions.
Palestine: I promise I'm not gonna kill every Jewish person and destroy every Jewish Synagogue I see. Promise!

StoopTroup
5/20/2011, 06:01 PM
BTW Nate. I think you need to understand that there is no way for Bebe to say he agrees with President Obama about creating a Palestinian State and be able to return to Israel. If you read between the lines they were both extremely careful in the words they used so that neither of them Pwned each other.

This is a really good lesson in politics my friends. Wait and watch the roses grow from this shat.

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 06:05 PM
This is a really good lesson in politics my friends. Wait and watch the roses grow from this shat.[/QUOTE] Troup

This will, and is, happening as we speak,
Why? do you not understand...As Big and Bad that you Think- We Are, You do not believe that We do not need every advantage on Every level and at all Sites around the world to protect ourselves, our family's, and all associated with our thoughts and beliefs, be it Christian and or Other.
It is Larger than us. We are now part of the world community...WE do not own it any more, We are now participating in it. Loss of industry and loss of natural resources..Or halting their operations to compete, Out sourcing of everything, The quick buck bit us in the ***. Reality sucks...

soonercoop1
5/20/2011, 06:51 PM
Can we find him a Hawaii birth certificate...he needs to run for president...completely schooled Obama on national tv in front of god and everyone...

AlboSooner
5/20/2011, 07:28 PM
keep sucking on that tit Israel

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 07:44 PM
keep sucking on that tit Israel

They will, and We will keep feeding them, We are now in the process of weaning them off of it, Patience, it will happen. Simply By keeping a HEAD chair at the table we shall always have a [the] say, capish

Fraggle145
5/20/2011, 07:56 PM
try to go back to the end of WWII, the Jews had all been displaced from Europe, & the ones that hadn't been exterminated, had no place to go.

nobody (basically) wanted them.

What would you have done with them ???

Told them to ****ing deal with it. Pretty much the same deal the indians got.

Fraggle145
5/20/2011, 07:58 PM
but appropriate.

:rolleyes:

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 08:12 PM
Told them to ****ing deal with it. Pretty much the same deal the indians got.

that's a terrific solution !!! that's nothing even remotely like the indians got. they kept getting land, the land they got just kept getting crappier.

the Jews were all displaced, lost all their possessions. they had NOWHERE to go.

i'm not saying israel was the solution, but if not, what was ???

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 08:16 PM
keep sucking on that tit Israel

what would you do in their place ??


one thing people SEEM to be forgetting, these folks are tuff & mean !!!
whatever the arabs do to them, they'll get it back in triplicate.

they will not **** around !!

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 08:20 PM
They will, and We will keep feeding them, We are now in the process of weaning them off of it, Patience, it will happen. Simply By keeping a HEAD chair at the table we shall always have a [the] say, capish

in what way or ways are we "weaning" them.
oh, our POTUS.

Thaumaturge
5/20/2011, 08:24 PM
that's a terrific solution !!! that's nothing even remotely like the indians got. they kept getting land, the land they got just kept getting crappier.

the Jews were all displaced, lost all their possessions. they had NOWHERE to go.

i'm not saying israel was the solution, but if not, what was ???

If that's your concern, there're vast swaths of crappy land they could have been given.

texaspokieokie
5/20/2011, 08:30 PM
If that's your concern, there're vast swaths of crappy land they could have been given.

they pretty much got crappy land.

i didn't care, to young to care, only 12.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/20/2011, 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by The Profit
"And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it."


Sincerely,

Your neighborhood NaziHel*, I had always been lead to believe it is the conservatives(the American RIGHT) that are supposed to be some kind of Nazis...WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/20/2011, 08:36 PM
Reading the hatred that the board lefties here have for Israel and Jews in general, I continue to be baffled as to why American Jews continue to vote Democrat in overwhelming numbers, year after year.THAT is one of the great mysteries of Life. Here's Dennis Prager's view: http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2003/01/21/why_jews_and_blacks_vote_democrat_part_i


google prager jews voting democrat

soonerhubs
5/20/2011, 09:03 PM
Lots of anger in this thread. It'd be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

soonercruiser
5/20/2011, 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by The Profit
"And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it."

Hel*, I had always been lead to believe it is the conservatives(the American RIGHT) that are supposed to be some kind of Nazis...WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

Libernazi!

http://members.cox.net/franklipsinic/Political/not%20facism.jpg

Memtig14
5/20/2011, 09:14 PM
...in the WH on live television. Netanyahu looked like a true leader and Obama looked like the pu$$y he is.

THAT. WAS. CLASSIC.

:)

Memtig14
5/20/2011, 09:15 PM
He didn't even break a sweat doing it. Of course most people wouldn't.

:)

Memtig14
5/20/2011, 09:16 PM
So, you guys sit around watching TV all day? Don't you have real jobs adding to the economy?

I went on relief!






Obama relieved me of having to work!



:)

Memtig14
5/20/2011, 09:17 PM
Netanyahu met Obama in the WH and after listening to Obama preach to him he kindly thanked Obama for the kind words and then more or less told Obama that there was no way that Israel would go back to the 1967 lines. He kept speaking for several minutes and Obama just stared at him like "how dare you, don't you know I'm the holy messiah Obama?"

It was a sight to behold. We really have a weak president and today proved it.

:)

diverdog
5/20/2011, 10:14 PM
This is what the President of the US said in his speech:


For decades, the conflict between Israelis and Arabs has cast a shadow over the region. For Israelis, it has meant living with the fear that their children could get blown up on a bus or by rockets fired at their homes, as well as the pain of knowing that other children in the region are taught to hate them. For Palestinians, it has meant suffering the humiliation of occupation, and never living in a nation of their own. Moreover, this conflict has come with a larger cost the Middle East, as it impedes partnerships that could bring greater security, prosperity, and empowerment to ordinary people.

My Administration has worked with the parties and the international community for over two years to end this conflict, yet expectations have gone unmet. Israeli settlement activity continues. Palestinians have walked away from talks. The world looks at a conflict that has grinded on for decades, and sees a stalemate. Indeed, there are those who argue that with all the change and uncertainty in the region, it is simply not possible to move forward.


I disagree. At a time when the people of the Middle East and North Africa are casting off the burdens of the past, the drive for a lasting peace that ends the conflict and resolves all claims is more urgent than ever.

For the Palestinians, efforts to delegitimize Israel will end in failure. Symbolic actions to isolate Israel at the United Nations in September won't create an independent state. Palestinian leaders will not achieve peace or prosperity if Hamas insists on a path of terror and rejection. And Palestinians will never realize their independence by denying the right of Israel to exist.

As for Israel, our friendship is rooted deeply in a shared history and shared values. Our commitment to Israel's security is unshakeable. And we will stand against attempts to single it out for criticism in international forums. But precisely because of our friendship, it is important that we tell the truth: the status quo is unsustainable, and Israel too must act boldly to advance a lasting peace.

The fact is, a growing number of Palestinians live west of the Jordan River. Technology will make it harder for Israel to defend itself. A region undergoing profound change will lead to populism in which millions of people - not just a few leaders - must believe peace is possible. The international community is tired of an endless process that never produces an outcome. The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.

Ultimately, it is up to Israelis and Palestinians to take action. No peace can be imposed upon them, nor can endless delay make the problem go away. But what America and the international community can do is state frankly what everyone knows: a lasting peace will involve two states for two peoples. Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people; each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace.

So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, and a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself - by itself - against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, non-militarized state. The duration of this transition period must be agreed, and the effectiveness of security arrangements must be demonstrated.

These principles provide a foundation for negotiations. Palestinians should know the territorial outlines of their state; Israelis should know that their basic security concerns will be met. I know that these steps alone will not resolve this conflict. Two wrenching and emotional issues remain: the future of Jerusalem, and the fate of Palestinian refugees. But moving forward now on the basis of territory and security provides a foundation to resolve those two issues in a way that is just and fair, and that respects the rights and aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians.

The bold part has essentially been US policy for decades. Bush said something very similar in his peace initiatives in the ME.

As for Benjamin Netanyahu this is the second time he has been disrespectful to a Obama and he is going to pay a price. I, for one, am glad Obama is putting that little **** ant of a country in its place. Like many have said on this thread they have dominated our foreign policy for far to long and they do not act in the best interest of the US. It is time to cut all ties with them and the Arabs and let both of them wallow in their own sh*t. Ron Paul has pointed out that we have spent trillions in that part of the world and everyone still hates us. Screw em. We are broke and they should not get a dime more.

OUmillenium
5/20/2011, 10:18 PM
Gotta support Israel. They are doing western dirty work right in the middle of Muslim mayem.

Those who don't support Israel are lining up on the wrong side of God, as well.

diverdog
5/20/2011, 10:26 PM
Gotta support Israel. They are doing western dirty work right in the middle of Muslim mayem.

Those who don't support Israel are lining up on the wrong side of God, as well.

What dirty work? You mean like supplying the US with bogus intelligence and getting us to invade Iraq. Is that the dirty work you are talking about?

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 10:54 PM
diverdog, great post above; Your response below.
As for Benjamin Netanyahu this is the second time he has been disrespectful to a Obama and he is going to pay a price. I, for one, am glad Obama is putting that little **** ant of a country in its place. Like many have said on this thread they have dominated our foreign policy for far to long and they do not act in the best interest of the US. It is time to cut all ties with them and the Arabs and let both of them wallow in their own sh*t. Ron Paul has pointed out that we have spent trillions in that part of the world and everyone still hates us. Screw. We are broke and they should not get a dime more.
OK, My turn,
Israel will never be gone.
We will never get the hell out of dodge.
It is Not in our best interest, Having a home base to watch, wait, listen and negotiate is. Patience my friend, all will come round.

Bring it all home, Start drilling, creating jobs, WPA link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration
Lets get back to whom we were...Stand on our feet and fight, there is really no other way to show the nations of the world ...That We are back, Create REAL jobs, not gov. jobs... get the common Joe back to work and buying slim jims and slushies at the local convenience store, {Without his/her aide card}
Originally Posted by AlboSooner View Post
keep sucking on that tit Israel

They will, and We will keep feeding them, We are now in the process of weaning them off of it, Patience, it will happen. Simply By keeping a HEAD chair at the table we shall always have a [the] say, capish


If you read between the lines they were both extremely careful in the words they used so that neither of them Pwned each other.

This is a really good lesson in politics my friends. Wait and watch the roses grow from this shat.

This will, and is, happening as we speak,
Why? do you not understand...As Big and Bad that you Think- We Are, You do not believe, [that We do not need every advantage on Every level] and at all Sites around the world to protect ourselves, our family's, and all associated with our thoughts and beliefs, be it Christian and or Other.
It is Larger than us. We are now part of the world community...WE do not own it any more, We are now participating in it. Loss of industry and loss of natural resources..Or halting their operations to compete, Out sourcing of everything, The quick buck bit us in the ***. Reality sucks...Patience my friend, all will come round.

sooner59
5/20/2011, 11:01 PM
Gotta support Israel. They are doing western dirty work right in the middle of Muslim mayem.

Those who don't support Israel are lining up on the wrong side of God, as well.

Jebus H. Tebow! You have to support a certain foreign government or you are going against God? Holy ****. I have heard from strange stuff on this board, but **** me that was out there.

FirstAndGoalOU
5/20/2011, 11:10 PM
Easy everyone, sonner59 is going to walk across the water and fill us in on how
to handle this situation. Stage is yours!

FirstAndGoalOU
5/21/2011, 12:00 AM
Well Ok then, Anyone else have any suggestions on how the hell we
get out of this mess? Not just Israel, but our economic situation?

sooner59
5/21/2011, 12:37 AM
Easy everyone, sonner59 is going to walk across the water and fill us in on how
to handle this situation. Stage is yours!

Not sure what a "sonner" is, but I won't pretend to know how to handle an international relations situation. I was just saying that the people that govern Israel are not God's right hand men. They are people who govern. Not agreeing with them or taking their side doesn't have anything to do with God.

StoopTroup
5/21/2011, 12:38 AM
As far as Israel....we just start rounding up people who aren't circumcised and then.....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l6EwXZyAw8M/TYJ5W21FkvI/AAAAAAAABPY/kccFPUhb1wU/s400/st-patricks-day-animated-gif-2.gif

As far as the economy....Circumcised folks pay the present Tax rate and non pay 45%. 45% even at the register....:D

You can either join the club and have the procedure done Immediately next to the photo booth ( it's $1000 up front just for the appointment and then $1000 for the new ID)

Those with current proof of circumcision get a pass.... and a Free ID.

sooner59
5/21/2011, 12:43 AM
I hear San Francisco is hearing a proposition to ban circumcision, even in religion cases. They say its dangerous. There is probably a joke in there somewhere, but I'm not that creative at the moment.

FirstAndGoalOU
5/21/2011, 12:56 AM
I knew it, BS running rampant, worst of the worst
Oh no, the rapture actually. happened..and this is what I have to deal with...59 and Troup.
Bring it. I have 4 more with me, [I think]
http://www.military.cz/special_forces/ST6/training.jpg

sooner59
5/21/2011, 01:00 AM
Don't trust them! They bare the mark of the beast! ;)

StoopTroup
5/21/2011, 01:01 AM
It's the ones with goggles to watch out for...

FirstAndGoalOU
5/21/2011, 01:15 AM
...Not this S*** again, http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/84/oh11ohmomentss550x36620.jpg

MR2-Sooner86
5/21/2011, 01:24 AM
The Jewish state of Israel will die a slow and peaceful death. The simple fact is the Arabs are out breeding the Jews by about 3 to 1. One day they will be the majority in a democratic state and at that point Israel will be gone.

They're using the same strategy in Europe.

There's one reason we support Israel. We complain about other countries being religious nuts yet our foreign policy with Israel is due to the Christians.

According to Christians, the Jewish people are God's chosen people and it says in the Bible that whoever blesses the Jewish people will be blessed as well. I know many, many, many, many Christians who think the only reason the United States is in the position it's in as far as political power, economy, etc. is because of it's support of Israel.

So we'll never stop supporting Israel because the Christians in this country will go crazy. They think if we stop supporting Israel something really bad will happen to us.

Personally, I think we can be allies with them but I'm tired of supporting them with money and such. We give them all of this support and they stab us in the back or sell us down the river the first chance they get. What kind of thanks is that?

Does the U.S.S. Liberty ring any bells for anybody?

Let Israel take care of itself and when the Middle East starts crying to the world that Israel's army rolled all over them because they tried to pick a fight, oh well.

soonercoop1
5/21/2011, 07:21 AM
diverdog, great post above; Your response below.
As for Benjamin Netanyahu this is the second time he has been disrespectful to a Obama and he is going to pay a price. I, for one, am glad Obama is putting that little **** ant of a country in its place. Like many have said on this thread they have dominated our foreign policy for far to long and they do not act in the best interest of the US. It is time to cut all ties with them and the Arabs and let both of them wallow in their own sh*t. Ron Paul has pointed out that we have spent trillions in that part of the world and everyone still hates us. Screw. We are broke and they should not get a dime more.
OK, My turn,
Israel will never be gone.
We will never get the hell out of dodge.
It is Not in our best interest, Having a home base to watch, wait, listen and negotiate is. Patience my friend, all will come round.

Bring it all home, Start drilling, creating jobs, WPA link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration
Lets get back to whom we were...Stand on our feet and fight, there is really no other way to show the nations of the world ...That We are back, Create REAL jobs, not gov. jobs... get the common Joe back to work and buying slim jims and slushies at the local convenience store, {Without his/her aide card}
Originally Posted by AlboSooner View Post
keep sucking on that tit Israel

They will, and We will keep feeding them, We are now in the process of weaning them off of it, Patience, it will happen. Simply By keeping a HEAD chair at the table we shall always have a [the] say, capish


If you read between the lines they were both extremely careful in the words they used so that neither of them Pwned each other.

This is a really good lesson in politics my friends. Wait and watch the roses grow from this shat.

This will, and is, happening as we speak,
Why? do you not understand...As Big and Bad that you Think- We Are, You do not believe, [that We do not need every advantage on Every level] and at all Sites around the world to protect ourselves, our family's, and all associated with our thoughts and beliefs, be it Christian and or Other.
It is Larger than us. We are now part of the world community...WE do not own it any more, We are now participating in it. Loss of industry and loss of natural resources..Or halting their operations to compete, Out sourcing of everything, The quick buck bit us in the ***. Reality sucks...Patience my friend, all will come round.

How is he paying a price exactly?

picasso
5/21/2011, 08:21 AM
Jews don't believe in Jesus.



Well, they do believe in Christ, I mean he was one of them. They just don't think he was the son of God, he was just another prophet in their eyes.

I'm diggin' all of this anti-Semitism. Maybe some of you guys can hitch a ride with that goofy looking little fella in Iran.

Mississippi Sooner
5/21/2011, 08:28 AM
Well, they do believe in Christ, I mean he was one of them. They just don't think he was the son of God, he was just another prophet in their eyes.

I'm diggin' all of this anti-Semitism. Maybe some of you guys can hitch a ride with that goofy looking little fella in Iran.

I wonder if he shops for his jackets in the same store as John McCain?

Uh oh, now I said it. Thread will be locked for sure.

SoonerProphet
5/21/2011, 08:39 AM
Well, they do believe in Christ, I mean he was one of them. They just don't think he was the son of God, he was just another prophet in their eyes.

I'm diggin' all of this anti-Semitism. Maybe some of you guys can hitch a ride with that goofy looking little fella in Iran.

dude, we get it. nobody wants to talk about the issue of our policy with israel. instead the race card is pulled and juvenille nazi references are tossed about. superb work lads.

Turd_Ferguson
5/21/2011, 09:12 AM
dude, we get it. nobody wants to talk about the issue of our policy with israel. instead the race card is pulled and juvenille nazi references are tossed about. superb work lads.Stick in *** much?:D

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
5/21/2011, 09:23 AM
Well, they do believe in Christ, I mean he was one of them. They just don't think he was the son of God, he was just another prophet in their eyes.

I'm diggin' all of this anti-Semitism. Maybe some of you guys can hitch a ride with that goofy looking little fella in Iran.It IS shameful and shocking that so many Americans are joining with the jihaadis, at least for now,while America isn't their MAIN focus. Not yet, anyway.

pphilfran
5/21/2011, 10:38 AM
This is what the President of the US said in his speech:



The bold part has essentially been US policy for decades. Bush said something very similar in his peace initiatives in the ME.

As for Benjamin Netanyahu this is the second time he has been disrespectful to a Obama and he is going to pay a price. I, for one, am glad Obama is putting that little **** ant of a country in its place. Like many have said on this thread they have dominated our foreign policy for far to long and they do not act in the best interest of the US. It is time to cut all ties with them and the Arabs and let both of them wallow in their own sh*t. Ron Paul has pointed out that we have spent trillions in that part of the world and everyone still hates us. Screw em. We are broke and they should not get a dime more.

I don't see where Netanyahu was disrespectful to Obama...

Obama put out a plan that has been ignored by Israel in the past...it should not surprise anyone that Net told Obama why the plan would not be in Israels best interest...that the plan was unacceptable...did anyone really expect Israel to just roll over and agree with Obama?

I don't give a chit who is telling Israel what to do...it ain't gonna work if there are no repercussions to either side...

if we are serious about the situation we should say we would like to see x happen...if x does not happen they y will take place...we ain't done that...and if we ain't gonna do anything negative toward either side then we should shut the f up and start pulling benefits from both sides...

MR2-Sooner86
5/21/2011, 10:55 AM
So the Republicans pull out the race card for Israel and the Democrats pull out the race card for Obama.

Both sides think they're perfect and immune from criticism.

pphilfran
5/21/2011, 10:59 AM
So the Republicans pull out the race card for Israel and the Democrats pull out the race card for Obama.

Both sides think they're perfect and immune from criticism.

Far too many put themselves ahead of the party and the party ahead of the country...

SoonerProphet
5/21/2011, 11:00 AM
I don't see where Netanyahu was disrespectful to Obama...

Obama put out a plan that has been ignored by Israel in the past...it should not surprise anyone that Net told Obama why the plan would not be in Israels best interest...that the plan was unacceptable...did anyone really expect Israel to just roll over and agree with Obama?

I don't give a chit who is telling Israel what to do...it ain't gonna work if there are no repercussions to either side...

if we are serious about the situation we should say we would like to see x happen...if x does not happen they y will take place...we ain't done that...and if we ain't gonna do anything negative toward either side then we should shut the f up and start pulling benefits from both sides...

no, i don't expect the likud government to give up its occupation. agree that nothing will be accomplished without a carrot and stick approach to both sides. if not, the welfare can stop flowing.

StoopTroup
5/21/2011, 11:40 AM
So this is finally resolved and Nate's Premise was completely unfounded. Man...that didn't take as long as I thought it would.

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diverdog
5/21/2011, 12:06 PM
It IS shameful and shocking that so many Americans are joining with the jihaadis, at least for now,while America isn't their MAIN focus. Not yet, anyway.

This has nothing to do with Jihadist. To bad you have to keep making your opinions based on catchy slogans. This is about doing what is best for our country and right now what is best for our country is not supporting Israel to the degree we have in the past.

diverdog
5/21/2011, 12:07 PM
I don't see where Netanyahu was disrespectful to Obama...

Obama put out a plan that has been ignored by Israel in the past...it should not surprise anyone that Net told Obama why the plan would not be in Israels best interest...that the plan was unacceptable...did anyone really expect Israel to just roll over and agree with Obama?

I don't give a chit who is telling Israel what to do...it ain't gonna work if there are no repercussions to either side...

if we are serious about the situation we should say we would like to see x happen...if x does not happen they y will take place...we ain't done that...and if we ain't gonna do anything negative toward either side then we should shut the f up and start pulling benefits from both sides...


Totally agree!

OU_Sooners75
5/21/2011, 12:21 PM
Gotta support Israel. They are doing western dirty work right in the middle of Muslim mayem.

Those who don't support Israel are lining up on the wrong side of God, as well.


Yeah, because 3 religions based on the same god like to fight each other.

Sounds like God has a bunch of ****ed up followers!

soonercruiser
5/21/2011, 02:43 PM
It IS shameful and shocking that so many Americans are joining with the jihaadis, at least for now,while America isn't their MAIN focus. Not yet, anyway.

...."and when they came for us, there was no one left to....."
:(

StoopTroup
5/21/2011, 09:23 PM
Jon Stewart is happy in his pants

85Sooner
5/22/2011, 03:33 PM
And I don't trust those Zionists either. We get ourselves in more trouble by coddling those Jews. We, along with the Brits, gave them their land back; now, let's leave it to them to hold it.

Yup that's what its all about...... Us protecting Israel. For those intimate with the relationship, they will tell you that in many situations , we, The US have prevented Israel from going off on their asses. Wait until they are pushed too far and we want them to hold back. The consequences would be huge for the USA if they told us to F.O and went ahead against our wishes.

StoopTroup
5/22/2011, 03:38 PM
If you call Coddling someone who's State is 19 miles wide and surrounded by millions of people who would slaughter them all in the street in one day if they were allowed to do so....I think you have a pretty messed up view of coddling....

picasso
5/25/2011, 08:04 PM
**** Israel. If we wouldnt have backed thme in the first place we wouldnt be in this mess.

Giving the Jews Israel, is equivalent to giving the indians back America. ****ing stupid.

Umm they fought for the right to keep it.

They are also our 2nd strongest ally.

Obama is an azz for making those initial remarks. Those are HIS wishes, not most of the rest of America.

StoopTroup
5/25/2011, 08:17 PM
Umm they fought for the right to keep it.

They are also our 2nd strongest ally.

Obama is an azz for making those initial remarks. Those are HIS wishes, not most of the rest of America.

You mean trying to get the Muslims to leave them alone? I'm not sure you are right about that.

See....Obama has Ex-President Carter as a resource and IMO....he's setting them both up for a Camp David II, where he gives them the talk about how are they gonna expect their Grand-kids or Great Grand-kids to be proud of them if they both continue on a path of destruction.

Fraggle145
5/25/2011, 09:25 PM
Umm they fought for the right to keep it.

They are also our 2nd strongest ally.

Obama is an azz for making those initial remarks. Those are HIS wishes, not most of the rest of America.

I know they did. And they won. With little to no direct help from us... after we stocked their war chest. They have proven to be quite effective at holding their own in wars. Why do we have to keep sticking our noses in it?

What I'm saying is the state of Israel never would have been a state without our backing in the UN.

Sad as the situations were about how the Jews were treated throughout history they had lost the battle to control the holy land a long time ago.

Much in the same way (granted not to the same extremes) the indians lost the battles to maintain control of America. Hence why I used that as an analogy.

I'm just saying I dont think we had any right to go messing around over there in the first place, and the fact that Israel is now our problem annoys me. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism. IMO they lost and would have continued to lose had it not been for our initial intervention in the UN.

Imagine if it would have went the other way and we backed a Palestinian State instead? :pop:

brian
5/26/2011, 12:46 AM
the president listened while another world leader talked. what a novel idea.

Curly Bill
5/26/2011, 03:28 AM
You mean trying to get the Muslims to leave them alone? I'm not sure you are right about that.

See....Obama has Ex-President Carter as a resource and IMO....he's setting them both up for a Camp David II, where he gives them the talk about how are they gonna expect their Grand-kids or Great Grand-kids to be proud of them if they both continue on a path of destruction.

Why did this make me laugh? :O

Gandalf_The_Grey
5/26/2011, 04:01 AM
Probably because you are imagining Carter saying something like "Sometimes in the Peanut industry we didn't get along...

soonercruiser
5/27/2011, 09:56 PM
the president listened while another world leader talked. what a novel idea.

Just because Obama had his mouth shut (for a change), doesn't mean he was really listening.
Remember the meeting with Repugs on healthcare reform?

diverdog
5/27/2011, 10:06 PM
Umm they fought for the right to keep it.

They are also our 2nd strongest ally.

Obama is an azz for making those initial remarks. Those are HIS wishes, not most of the rest of America.

Second strongest ally....Bull Sh!T

BU BEAR
5/27/2011, 11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5lsbp7YmHI&feature=player_embedded