Western Conference Finals

[Sooner_Tuf]

Hey when did Harden become OKC's elite player?

I think he's making a challenge to that tall chick with the beard on the mavs?

[silverwheels]

He has all the tools to be that kind of player. Look at Dirk's work ethic. That's what Harden needs.

Yeah, and I think it was a confidence thing for him, too, but he has really stepped it up since the All-Star Game. Can't wait to see how much he has improved next year, along with Ibaka.

[Ruf/Nek7]

So much for the lack of a well executed play off a timeout

[Ruf/Nek7]

Well looking like thunder will take one from Dallas, but Dallas will get one back in OKC no doubt

[AlboSooner]

the beard

[silverwheels]

To borrow a hockey term, Harden is standing on his head right now.

[soonerbub]

Collision steals the candy whaaaa

DALLASS SUX

[Ruf/Nek7]

Collision steals the candy whaaaa

DALLASS SUX

Thunder fans would be experts in the whaaa department

[colleyvillesooner]

Well looking like thunder will take one from Dallas, but Dallas will get one back in OKC no doubt

Dude, you can't do that. You have to make a bunch of excuses for why Dallas is losing. It's not just because the other team was better tonight. Not possible. Please be irrational.

[silverwheels]

Would be nice if Dallas' annual choke took place in this series instead of in the Finals.

[AlboSooner]

this game is not over yet.

[Ruf/Nek7]

Dude, you can't do that. You have to make a bunch of excuses for why Dallas is losing. It's not just because the other team was better tonight. Not possible. Please be irrational.

Oh right, my bad... REFS SUCK! How much did Bennet pay the refs. Goodness we got screwed

[AlboSooner]

Dude, you can't do that. You have to make a bunch of excuses for why Dallas is losing. It's not just because the other team was better tonight. Not possible. Please be irrational.

nice stroking. :D

[AlboSooner]

out of time out plays are still poor

[AlboSooner]

much better this time

[Ruf/Nek7]

Ok so this thing will go atleast 6 games. Let's see if we cant run the message count up to 1,000

[soonerbub]

Just take note Mav that we're doin this without Ozarka for the entire 4th

[silverwheels]

One epic multiple-overtime game and this thing will have 1,000 posts.

[AlboSooner]

boy o boy. don't break our hearts thunder


One epic multiple-overtime game and this thing will have 1,000 posts.

I would love that

[silverwheels]

Make your free throws this time, Nick.

[AlboSooner]

wow. one of the youngest teams to make it to the finals? impressive.

[colleyvillesooner]

Thunder bench outplaying the Mavs bench.

[AlboSooner]

did RW make the coach mad or something ?

[silverwheels]

did RW make the coach mad or something ?

No, the bench has just been playing well.


Nick just fouled out. Nazr time?

[AlboSooner]

No, the bench has just been playing well.


Nick just fouled out. Nazr time.

still though. you leave an all star on the bench over Maynor. something must have been said

[silverwheels]

Took all the time off the shot clock, but didn't get off a shot. At least it's still a 4-point game. Gotta play sound defense here, though.

[colleyvillesooner]

Ugh, that Dirk miss is even bigger now. Can't believe it's this close with the Thunder up 10 with 3:00 to go.

[AlboSooner]

ibaka was mauled. no call lol

[AlboSooner]

I don't care if the Mavs win the series. For a young OKC team to come back and win this game makes me proud.

[silverwheels]

Big win. Just have to hold serve at home now. Easier said than done, I know. Should be an intense series.

[Ruf/Nek7]

Good win for the thunder. Only lost by 5, terry was a no show and harden and maynor provide points that won't show up in the boxscore that often. Mavs will strike back by taking one in OKC. Just not sure my prediction of Mavs in 5 will hold up

[colleyvillesooner]

ibaka was mauled. no call lol

YOU ****ING WON!!!!! You must go to orange power too much during the football season.

[Ruf/Nek7]

I don't care if the Mavs win the series. For a young OKC team to come back and win this game makes me proud.

It's the NBA, everyone makes runs.

[colleyvillesooner]

Good win thunder. Mavs were right there, just not quite as good as OKC tonight.

Can only hope that leaving Westbrook on the bench messes with his head. I understand your bench is playing well, but damn that is weird.

[Ruf/Nek7]

YOU ****ING WON!!!!! You must go to orange power too much during the football season.

I sensed the sarcasm haha

[silverwheels]

It's going to be a battle for the rest of the series. Both fanbases will have had some heart problems by the time this one is over, regardless who wins.

[SOONER44EVER]

Good win thunder. Mavs were right there, just not quite as good as OKC tonight.

Can only hope that leaving Westbrook on the bench messes with his head. I understand your bench is playing well, but damn that is weird.

Halfway thru the 4th Maynor was +20 and Westbrook was - 12. Not that weird really.

[colleyvillesooner]

It's going to be a battle for the rest of the series. Both fanbases will have had some heart problems by the time this one is over, regardless who wins.

I agree. See y'all saturday. Till then, Boomer Sooner.

But on Saturday, go **** yourselves. :D

[Partial Qualifier]

Good win for the thunder. Only lost by 5, terry was a no show and harden and maynor provide points that won't show up in the boxscore that often. Mavs will strike back by taking one in OKC. Just not sure my prediction of Mavs in 5 will hold up

Sefolosha on Terry = Terry no-show

[ouleaf]

I'll give credit where credit is due. That was a great game by the thunder. Stayed tough throughout and made theavs work for everything. Did a great job on dirk and kept jj from driving.

Durant was great again, and Harden hit some sick shots in the closing minutes. This is going to be a tough, tough series

[colleyvillesooner]

Halfway thru the 4th Maynor was +20 and Westbrook was - 12. Not that weird really.

I don't really buy into +/- in BBall. Kevin Durant was a -2 tonight.

[AlboSooner]

YOU ****ING WON!!!!! You must go to orange power too much during the football season.

Ad-hominem much? It a message board. we comment here. get on board brah

[AlboSooner]

It's the NBA, everyone makes runs.

Thanks Madden

[Partial Qualifier]

Westbrook hasnt played good in either game and OKC is 1-1 and stole home court. I'll take it. It looks like we figgered some things out defensively and I like the Thunder's chances at home these next 2 games

[AlboSooner]

ESPN showed RW talking a lot of noise while on the bench. I knew he must have said something to sit the whole 4th quarter

[SOONER44EVER]

ESPN showed RW talking a lot of noise while on the bench. I knew he must have said something to sit the whole 4th quarter

I love RW but he needs to calm down and grow up. When/if he gets his S&%t together hes gonna be unstoppable.

[Quik Sand]

I love RW but he needs to calm down and grow up. When/if he gets his S&%t together hes gonna be unstoppable.Exactly what I was thinking. KD already being asked about it...attempted to defuse the situation. Really curious to see how RW comes out in game 3...hopefully the one from game 7 v Memphis.

[Sooner_Tuf]

Man I couldn't be prouder of the Thunder going down to Dallas and winning this game. Honestly it doesn't look like the Mavs are pushing the Thunder as hard as the Grizzlies did. They have so much more talent and experience I expected the Mavs to really whip up on the Thunder.

Either the Thunder is a bit better than I thought they were or the Mavs aren't as good as I thought they were. No matter I am thrilled it is 1-1 after two with the next two games in OKC.

Hopefully we go back to Dallas with the series at 3-1 with the Thunder on top.

[Quik Sand]

OKC with a closeout game in game 6 would be on fire

[Curly Bill]

I predict it goes back to Dallas just like it is now: all tied-up, 2 games apiece.

[Quik Sand]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/75/honeybadger.jpg

[yankee]

Sefolosha on Terry = Terry no-show

Bingo.

[yankee]

ESPN showed RW talking a lot of noise while on the bench. I knew he must have said something to sit the whole 4th quarter

I disagree. Brooks left the bench, not just Maynor, in for wayyyy longer than he normally does. It was not a RW thing, it was a bench/starters thing. Loved the decision to stick with the guys that got the team up big. Freaking loved it. First time I have ever seen that, especially in a playoff game. Westbrook and Brooks probably clash more often then we think, and he sits him for the first time for the 4th quarter in game 2 of the Western Conference Finals? I find that hard to believe.

[SoonerNate]

_irk is a choke artist. He had a chance to narrow it down to a one possession game at the line and coughed all over the court (missed)

Just like in 2006,

He is nothing but a big oaf.

DA-VID HASSEL-HOFF, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP

War Heat.

[Chris Patterson]

_irk is a choke artist. He had a chance to narrow it down to a one possession game at the line and coughed all over the court (missed)

Just like in 2006,

He is nothing but a big oaf.

DA-VID HASSEL-HOFF, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP

War Heat.
:rolleyes:

[SoonerNate]

He sucks, Chris. And he plays zero defense.

[colleyvillesooner]

Hey everyone, look, its ********* Friday!

[Soonerus]

Dallas has defensive problems , not fixable ...

[Lott's Bandana]

Thunder have yet to lose consecutive games in the playoffs.

Scott Brooks = Coach

[saucysoonergal]

Why was Westbrook pouting like a little Beyonce?

[Partial Qualifier]

Thunder have yet to lose consecutive games in the playoffs.

Scott Brooks = Coach

http://i53.tinypic.com/facxap.gif

[AlboSooner]

Y5YwGtrlu4E

[GrapevineSooner]

Mavs' got bench slapped last night.

And that was a little ballsy of Brooks to leave his bench in in the 4th and sit Westbrook. But his players rewarded his faith.

Meanwhile, Jason Terry went 0 for 4 in the 4th.

There's your game.

And I find it more than disconcerting to hear several Mavs say the Thunder wanted it more. They're correct, mind you. OKC deserved to win.

But if you're the Mavs who have gone through 2006, and the one and done's in 2007, 2008, and 2010, no opponent you play should be hungrier than you are.

That all having been said, I'm not worried about this series just yet.

I said Dallas in 6 at the start and wouldn't have been surprised in the least to see OKC take one of the first two games in Dallas. The Mavs are fully capable of taking at least one in OKC and I expect this series to come back to Dallas tied 2-2.

But the defense still has to improve.

[colleyvillesooner]

In a similar fashion to Dallas in game 1, the thunder shot above normal. Radio guy this morning sau they've only shot that high a percentage 4 times this year. This will probably go 7.

[yankee]

_irk is a choke artist. He had a chance to narrow it down to a one possession game at the line and coughed all over the court (missed)

Just like in 2006,

He is nothing but a big oaf.

DA-VID HASSEL-HOFF, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP CLAP CLAP

War Heat.

Dirk scored 16 points in the 4th quarter and was the only reason why the Mavs were within 10 at the end of the game. I can't stand the Mavs or Dirk, but the guy is an outstanding closer and I feared the worst last night as he kept scoring in the 4th quarter. He still can't play a lick of defense though.

[Peach Fuzz]

Germans like to use Blitzkrieg style offense, but they sure as hell cant defend for ****

[GrapevineSooner]

In the Dirk era, the Mavs have been tied at 1-1 nine times. The winner of Game 3 in EVERY SERIES went on to win the series.

2002 2nd round: Lost to Sacramento (lost series in 5)
2003 2nd round: Beat Sacramento in double OT (won series in 7)
2003 WCF: Lost to San Antonio (lost series in 6)
2005 2nd round: Lost to Phoenix (lost series in 6)
2006 2nd round: Beat San Antonio (won series in 7)
2006 WCF: Beat Phoenix (won series in 6)
2007 1st round: Lost to Golden State (lost series in 6)
2009 1st round: Beat San Antonio (won series in 5)
2010 1st round: Lost to San Antonio (lost series in 6)

And as you can see, Dallas is 4-5, having alternated Game 3 wins and losses in every series since 2007.

[soonervegas]

So you are saying that tonight is important, Grapevine?

I can't wait to be in the arena tonight. I have OU-Texas level nervousness this weekend.

[GrapevineSooner]

So you are saying that tonight is important, Grapevine?

I can't wait to be in the arena tonight. I have OU-Texas level nervousness this weekend.

If history's any indication. ;)

Also, I checked Whowins.com. They say that when a series is tied 1-1 irrespective of who has HCA or what round it is, the winner of Game 3 goes on to win the series 82.2% of the time.

The team that started the series with HCA went on to win the series 75% of the time while teams that stole HCA in one of the first two games and held serve in Game 3 went on to win the series 2/3 of the time (.667)

So yeah, it's a big game. That having been said, we all know OKC bucked that trend last round against Memphis.

And I'm a little nervous as well. Not as nervous as OU-Texas weekend because unlike the Horns, I don't hate you guys. :D

But I'm still nervous.

[silverwheels]

The Arena Formerly Known As The Ford Center will be insane tonight. Too bad I have to be at work. :(

Hopefully it's slow so I can watch.

[GrapevineSooner]

Hope you guys enjoy the atmosphere there tonight.

Not too much, though. :D

[87sooner]

any good sites to watch the game online tonite?
having a new roof put on and had to take the dish down...

[colleyvillesooner]

If history's any indication. ;)

Also, I checked Whowins.com. They say that when a series is tied 1-1 irrespective of who has HCA or what round it is, the winner of Game 3 goes on to win the series 82.2% of the time.

The team that started the series with HCA went on to win the series 75% of the time while teams that stole HCA in one of the first two games and held serve in Game 3 went on to win the series 2/3 of the time (.667)

So yeah, it's a big game. That having been said, we all know OKC bucked that trend last round against Memphis.

And I'm a little nervous as well. Not as nervous as OU-Texas weekend because unlike the Horns, I don't hate you guys. :D

But I'm still nervous.

I gragree. Battle gear Grapevine, the natives will be restless.

[soonerbub]

SHUT UP 92 **** you ain't gonna **** with Thabo

THUND3R UP

[StoopTroup]

Just know this Colley.....it ain't over till it over BEYOTCH!!!!!

[AlboSooner]

The FT are keeping us in the game. 92 is a great actor

[StoopTroup]

The FT are keeping us in the game

oH YEAH....IT'S OVER FOR US....JUST LIKE GAME 1:rolleyes:

[soonerbub]

c'mon guys...ain't no pressure just go play & drive plzkthx

[AlboSooner]

oH YEAH....IT'S OVER FOR US....JUST LIKE GAME 1:rolleyes:

Brah, still bitter? Get over it

[StoopTroup]

Brah, still bitter? Get over it

lol...I see you've sobered up

[StoopTroup]

DO RANT FO 3 ! ! ! !

[AlboSooner]

lol...I see you've sobered up

I don't drank. Bra. I thought that with the amount of junk food you eat, you'd get over internet srs business. I guess fat and happy is just a cliche. :D

[AlboSooner]

It's all about the shots not falling down right now. We'll make a run.

[StoopTroup]

I don't drank. Bra. I thought that with the amount of junk food you eat, you'd get over internet srs business. I guess fat and happy is just a cliche. :D

You obviously don't know me. I eat squirrel. nothing but it too.

[AlboSooner]

It's time for RW to have a good game in this series.

[StoopTroup]

We look weak right now but some how we got a bucket.

[StoopTroup]

Damn Mav troll grabbing us to stop the break. Should be shooting 3. I hate fouls that intentionally stop the flow of the game

[AlboSooner]

The Mavs came to play tonight

[ouboomer1]

If Westbrook did not like the criticsm after game 2 he is about to get ripped at halftime fair or not fair...

[StoopTroup]

Who's drinking Tequila?

[StoopTroup]

Are the announcers gonna go at it? That would be cool

[colleyvillesooner]

Are the announcers gonna go at it? That would be cool

I'd pay money to take a swing at Van Gundy.

[olevetonahill]

Is it 1/2 time yet?
I can only watch after the 1/2 .;)

[olevetonahill]

Put yer money on the Thunder, I timed it perfectly. Just turned the teeVee on an its 1/2 time

Oh **** just saw the Score.:eek:
Oh well they HOME kill them saxens ;)

[StoopTroup]

This is painful to watch with out a twinkie

[EnragedOUfan]

I'm not in the least bit surprised by the outcome so far..........Throughout the playoffs, we've lived off our athleticism and jump shots. When we're hot, we're unstoppable. When we get our fast breaks in, we're unstoppable. When KD has a bad night like tonight, we seem to go into panic mode and take more jump shots. This I have to fault Scotty Brooks on. We need to run more plays. I absolutely love the ball movement from Dallas. Everytime Dallas gets down the court, it seems all 5 guys touch the basketball, with them getting the ball down low. We need that, especially when the jump shots that we live off of are not falling in........

[AlboSooner]

You make a good point OUfan

[StoopTroup]

How hard this is?

I mean....you get open and you take a jumper. it goes in and we score


We make it look like it's our first game of the year.

Sometimes I think Coaches need to pull the starters when a Team is down 20 and just see if they can confuse Dallas.

[AlboSooner]

Van Gundy just alluded to Dallas' defense. I think they are playing good D, but the thunder is missing wide open shots.

[soonerbub]

Ibaka is learnin how to play Dirk this will pay off in the next games

[StoopTroup]

I think we need to pray for our guys to let their anxiety go and just start having some fun....

[StoopTroup]

Ibaka is learnin how to play Dirk this will pay off in the next games

Yeah Dirk is missing some shots that would have gone right in on Game One.

[AlboSooner]

Fake teeth with A good acting job

[StoopTroup]

That's a BS call....

Dirk pushed him

[StoopTroup]

Dirk is an asswipe

[StoopTroup]

Your up 20 and you don't get a call....and you chide a player like that....

Westbrooke shoulda took his knees out...

[olevetonahill]

Nowitski er what ever needs to DIAF :texan:

[StoopTroup]

Anyone used a Proglide shaver while drinking a Bud?

[olevetonahill]

Our guys needn to Hit sompun sides the ****in floor.:eek:

[StoopTroup]

Hell....Jason kidd walked on that highlight reel

[StoopTroup]

There we go Perk!

Nice FTs!

[tfoolry]

Is Durantula playing tonight?

[StoopTroup]

HARDIN ! ! !

OH MAN!

[AlboSooner]

Lol Harden with an acting job

[tfoolry]

Hard flop.

[StoopTroup]

WHAT?

10-15,000?

WTH?

He's crazy.....lol

[colleyvillesooner]

Ok, no more talk about Stevenson flopping. That takes the cake.

Fear the Beard....'s flop.

[StoopTroup]

Let's go Thunder.

One for one.

DEFENSE then SCORE ! ! !

[AlboSooner]

Ok, no more talk about Stevenson flopping. That takes the cake.

Fear the Beard....'s flop.

Can we talk about both? That's why we have a thread afterall.

[StoopTroup]

Oh hell.....you got to make the free ones!

[StoopTroup]

DEFENSE! SCORE ! ! !

Down 15!

GO THUNDER ! ! !

[AlboSooner]

It feels like a win cutting it down to 15. Heh

[soonerbub]

Nice follow Thabo

D UP BOOM SHAKE THE ROOM

[olevetonahill]

That little sawed off Bald announcer needs his azz whooped.

[tfoolry]

Down to 15. Mavs are doomed.

[AlboSooner]

That little sawed off Bald announcer needs his azz whooped.

Can't stand that guy

[AlboSooner]

0-10 from beyond the arc is why we're down.

[tfoolry]

Redirkulous.

[olevetonahill]

Down to 15. Mavs are doomed.

Agreed

[AlboSooner]

When everybody touches the ball, the thunder almost always scores

[tfoolry]

Thunder are definitely charging.

[olevetonahill]

I dont know jack diddly about round ball. But this I do know. Thunder needs to quit ****in up. Hit the basket and stop them .;)

[olevetonahill]

In yer FACE Nowatsi

[StoopTroup]

12!

[Peach Fuzz]

been a pretty brutal game but Dallas could be up by 30...so...

[StoopTroup]

When everybody touches the ball, the thunder almost always scores

OK....everybody!

TOUCH YER BALLS AND DON"T QUIT TOUCHING THEM UNTIL ALBO SAYS STOP!

[StoopTroup]

JEREMIAH WEED VET ! ! !

We need a cooler of that this year. :D

[StoopTroup]

Barea....I was touching my balls when he fouled

[tfoolry]

OK....everybody!

TOUCH YER BALLS AND DON"T QUIT TOUCHING THEM UNTIL ALBO SAYS STOP!

That sounds like something an Aggy would do. :eek:

[StoopTroup]

Come on Ref....Westbrooke? That was a play on foul

[StoopTroup]

That sounds like something an Aggy would do. :eek:

Albo recommended it

[StoopTroup]

OK....bring it to 10!

[StoopTroup]

JJ Barea!

Foul #5 ! ! ! !

[StoopTroup]

10!

[StoopTroup]

8!

[SoonerofAlabama]

Wow, Westbrook just made a shot late in the game. Game is still in Maverick's favor for the time being.

[olevetonahill]

8 now. hell I may start likin this ****.;)

[StoopTroup]

How about that slow start?

[tfoolry]

No answer for Westbrook tonight. This is going down to the wire.

[SoonerofAlabama]

35-12 is not slow. It is stopped in your tracks.

[olevetonahill]

8 now. hell I may start likin this ****.;)

Doubt it tho, I just want my 2nd 1;2 streak to prevail.:D

[olevetonahill]

Am I the only one that, That NoWhiskey dude piszes off?

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dirk can't hit a shot to save his life!

[StoopTroup]

6!

[SoonerofAlabama]

JJ Barea's drive isn't working tonight. He has been able to just find a lane and GO BOWLING.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dirk made one. Haven't heard that much.

[StoopTroup]

DEFENSE ! ! !

Dirk can't believe it....lol

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dallas hasn't gotten to the line but 12 times.

[StoopTroup]

Gonna need some 3's

[tfoolry]

Nomisski is back.

[StoopTroup]

Dallas hasn't gotten to the line but 12 times.
That's because the Thunder are playing a hell of a good Defense

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dirk is getting pretty angry right now. He just made a shot, but he isn't very happy.

[StoopTroup]

Nomisski is back.

He is? Oh....he is.

I just saw him again

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dirk has scores 14 points. With the way he has played I was expecting six.

[olevetonahill]

Gonna need some 3's

Just one er 2 Plus some STOPS .

Some day Ima learn to like this game .;)

[StoopTroup]

Yum.....3 olives Vodka....

[SoonerofAlabama]

That's because the Thunder are playing a hell of a good Defense

I can tell. They have 9 blocks and are smothering them.

[StoopTroup]

Hell....he traveled before he made that last jumper

[SoonerofAlabama]

0-13 3-pointers for the Thunder.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Dallas has made seven.

[StoopTroup]

That hurt.....missed FTs

[tfoolry]

I've been wondering where Durantulas been.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Collison dunk.

[StoopTroup]

6!

[SoonerofAlabama]

Is Durant's wingspan 7'6"? His arms go for miles!

[StoopTroup]

My Gawd....throwing away the game from 3 pointland

[SoonerofAlabama]

0-15

[StoopTroup]

Pull Westbrook!

[StoopTroup]

Sickening....

We could have had this....

[tfoolry]

George JETson

[SoonerofAlabama]

OKC hasn't led once. Mavericks largest lead is 23. Portland came back from 23 down against the Mavs, it could happen.

[colleyvillesooner]

Sickening....

We could have had this....

Not over yet, dude.

[olevetonahill]

Sickening....

We could have had this....

Agreed

[SoonerofAlabama]

0-16

[StoopTroup]

0-15

+1

[tfoolry]

Who's #35?

[StoopTroup]

6!

[SoonerofAlabama]

Made 1!!!!!

[StoopTroup]

5!

[SoonerofAlabama]

1-17 Baby

[StoopTroup]

BRICK!

LMAO!

[SoonerofAlabama]

24 seconds. 4 point game.

[StoopTroup]

4!

[SoonerofAlabama]

Nowitzki at the line and drains it.

[StoopTroup]

ugh

[StoopTroup]

Well....I'm proud of them but they could have won this game....

Crap

[tfoolry]

Van Mike Gundy.

[SoonerofAlabama]

They had a chance. Fans will be heated Monday. Crowd will definitely be turned up for it.

[StoopTroup]

Game Over

[EnragedOUfan]

Well....I'm proud of them but they could have won this game....

Crap

I disagree. We were never in this game to begin with, not ever. So we closed the gap to 6........Even then, I knew with our PG who think's he MJ, we would never tie this game and thus, it never happened....

[StoopTroup]

Congrats Colley

[tfoolry]

Nice game. 3s were obviously the difference.

[StoopTroup]

I disagree. We were never in this game to begin with, not ever. So we closed the gap to 6........Even then, I knew with our PG who think's he MJ, we would never tie this game and thus, it never happened....

Well....I wasn't giving them a chance after seeing the 1st qtr and somehow they cut it to 4...

Whatever....

[SoonerofAlabama]

Westbrook isn't perfect. If you could pick one of the bench PGs, which one would you pick? Nate Robinson or Eric Maynor? I think I am fine with Westbrook. He just shouldn't try to outshine the star.

[oulucas]

I disagree. We were never in this game to begin with, not ever. So we closed the gap to 6........Even then, I knew with our PG who think's he MJ, we would never tie this game and thus, it never happened....

Sorry, you're off the mark here by a long shot. RW dialed it back this game TOO much. He was too sensitive to the criticism. For a while in the game he was the only offense we had. No, we were never really in the game but it had nothing to do with Westbrook.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Mavericks pulled it out. The first three quarters they did all on their own until the fourth. Never thought that they could win without Dirk playind top notch.

[SoonerofAlabama]

It did take 10 points by Dirk in the fourth for them to not lose though.

[EnragedOUfan]

Nice game. 3s were obviously the difference.

Lack of plays was the difference. Dallas was just too tired at the end, they're old. We have no offense. Its drive down the court with Westbrook, look around, possibly pass or shoot, or pass it to KD. If they hit it, great. If it misses but Collison tips it in, great. If Harden gets the rock and drains a 3, great. However, like tonight, if we start out cold with our jumpshots, we have no answer. We have no plays. Dallas was picking and rolling all night......I can't recall seeing us one time picking and rolling. And the refs were horrible. We got lucky, Dallas should have received way more calls.

[colleyvillesooner]

Lack of plays was the difference. Dallas was just too tired at the end, they're old. We have no offense. Its drive down the court with Westbrook, look around, possibly pass or shoot, or pass it to KD. If they hit it, great. If it misses but Collison tips it in, great. If Harden gets the rock and drains a 3, great. However, like tonight, if we start out cold with our jumpshots, we have no answer. We have no plays. Dallas was picking and rolling all night......I can't recall seeing us one time picking and rolling. And the refs were horrible. We got lucky, Dallas should have received way more calls.



The refs were horrible? I know you're not talking about FT's. 36 to 12 OKC not counting the garbage time fouls.

[SoonerofAlabama]

Why does Westbrook always try to be the scorer when he should be the distributor? He has stated that he isn't a normal PG, but he has to do something remotely similar to a PG, right?

[colleyvillesooner]

Congrats Colley

For this game, I'll take it, but this series is far from over. Fully expect Ot to head back to Dallas 2-2.

[GrapevineSooner]

Lack of plays was the difference. Dallas was just too tired at the end, they're old. We have no offense. Its drive down the court with Westbrook, look around, possibly pass or shoot, or pass it to KD. If they hit it, great. If it misses but Collison tips it in, great. If Harden gets the rock and drains a 3, great. However, like tonight, if we start out cold with our jumpshots, we have no answer. We have no plays. Dallas was picking and rolling all night......I can't recall seeing us one time picking and rolling. And the refs were horrible. We got lucky, Dallas should have received way more calls.

The Thunder are still the NBA's highest scoring team in the playoffs. Not really fair to say they have no offense.

They just got off to a horrible start offensively and couldn't drain their shots from beyond the arc.

Monday night could be a completely different story. You just never know.

As for the officiating...Let's just say I think Nick Collison did an outstanding job adjusting to it in his defense on Dirk. :D

And somebody give Harden an Oscar for his flop on the Chandler "elbow". ;)

[oulucas]

Why does Westbrook always try to be the scorer when he should be the distributor? He has stated that he isn't a normal PG, but he has to do something remotely similar to a PG, right?

What do you want him to do? NO ONE, including KD was scoring and here you have Westbrook who CAN score. Do you want him to continue passing it off like he did in the first three quarters? That didn't work so well did it?

[olevetonahill]

For this game, I'll take it, but this series is far from over. Fully expect Ot to head back to Dallas 2-2.

Ill go for that bro.

So should I not watch till the 2n 1/2 er just say **** it and watch em all?:confused:

[EnragedOUfan]

Sorry, you're off the mark here by a long shot. RW dialed it back this game TOO much. He was too sensitive to the criticism. For a while in the game he was the only offense we had. No, we were never really in the game but it had nothing to do with Westbrook.

I disagree. At one time during the 4th, I watched Westbrook dribble down the court with his eyes solely on the basket. Harden was wide open, throwing his arms up.........Westbrook never even looked his way and ended up driving for the layup only to miss it. I'm sorry man, that's a problem. Another time after this, I saw Harden just standing there and not doing anything. He stood there and watched Westbrook take it to the hoop. His body language clearly showed that he knew he what was going to happen with Westbrook driving down the lane. That's why Dallas will probably pull this out. We lack ball movement in my opinion...Westbrook had 7 turnovers.

[olevetonahill]

What do you want him to do? NO ONE, including KD was scoring and here you have Westbrook who CAN score. Do you want him to continue passing it off like he did in the first three quarters? That didn't work so well did it?

Good Point bro. All i Know is things seemed to work well in the 4th .;)

[oulucas]

I disagree. At one time during the 4th, I watched Westbrook dribble down the court with his eyes solely on the basket. Harden was wide open, throwing his arms up.........Westbrook never even looked his way and ended up driving for the layup only to miss it. I'm sorry man, that's a problem. Another time after this, I saw Harden just standing there and not doing anything. He stood there and watched Westbrook take it to the hoop. His body language clearly showed that he knew he what was going to happen with Westbrook driving down the lane. That's why Dallas will probably pull this out. We lack ball movement in my opinion...Westbrook had 7 turnovers.

So, I guess you were in the arena? Because there's no way you have that perspective from watching it on tv. I'm guessing you're a Westbrook hater from the beginning. He was the ONLY player making shots.

[SoonerofAlabama]

5.9% from behind the arc. 90% from the free throw line.

[ouleaf]

Big win for the Mavs...doesn't matter if it was by 6 or by 16. I was sure the Thunder would make a run, but I think the biggest key was that the Mavs were able to trade buckets those first 4 minutes or so of the 4th quarter. Dirk hit some big shots and Terry had that big jumper of the pick and roll to run the clock down to where the Thunder had no choice but to foul.

MVP of the game for the Mavs had to be Marion. He was great on both ends of the floor tonight. I think all of his points were in the paint, and he did a nice job on Durant.

Would not have thought if you told me before the game that if Dirk went 7-21 and Terry went 3-12, that the Mavs would have even had a chance of winning this game, but they found a way to win and that's all that matters.

Oh and congrats to Harden on his flop. It was World Cup quality.

[SoonerofAlabama]

You don't think Westbrook tries to do too much?

[oulucas]

5.9% from behind the arc. 90% from the free throw line.

Are you talking about RW? Because, if so, that's misleading. RW was the only player on the Thunder to make a 3 point shot.

[oulucas]

You don't think Westbrook tries to do too much?

By the way, YES, I think he does try to much. But I didn't think so tonight. Tonight NOBODY (including KD) was making shots so he went for it. We needed a spark of the highest degree tonight and he was all we had. No one else was going to step up. If he shoots as much and plays the same on Monday I will probably be upset.

[Partial Qualifier]

Westbrook didn't force KD to go stagnant on defense, stagnant on offense and brick 95% of his shots

The Thunder played like as$ tonight

[SoonerofAlabama]

On offense they did, but on defense they seemed to stop everything.

[silverwheels]

Sorta glad I missed the game judging from the box score. Gotta bounce back on Monday.

[Curly Bill]

Dallas has defensive problems , not fixable ...

LOL...:rolleyes: ;)

[colleyvillesooner]

Heh

[SOONER44EVER]

The first quarter was the problem. I think that should be obvious to everyone. We start every game with 2 scorers on the floor and our best defender on the bench then get in a big hole about 75% of the time. Dallas is just too good to overcome that kind of a first quarter.

[bornnbredou]

Man you Thunder fans are such hypocrits. In game 1 Dallas shot 7 less free throws than the Thunder but because Dirk had 24 by himself (even though Durant and Westbrook each had 18) you guys whined and moaned saying the officials were screwing OKC which is just ignorant to say. Now this game OKC shoots 36 free throws to Dallas' 18 and as one of you say, "its because the thunder are playing a great defense." Thats hilarious. See the end result though? Last nights game was a total screw job against Dallas, yet they still found a way to win the game, thats what GREAT teams do.

With all that said, Im still a Thunder fan but Dallas will always be my first team, but my god, you diehard Thunder fans need to get your heads out of your asses and quit acting like the only way they ever lose is because the refs screw them, it makes the fanbase look so ignorant. How bout getting ahold of that hothead Westbrook who can only score 30pts on 30 or more shots which drives down team morale. Hes a damn liability with a boatload of talent but way too selfish.

Oh and I know all Thunder fans arent like this, this is just a bunch that ive seen on here, and before you tear into me remember, BOOMER SOONER!

[colleyvillesooner]

Incoming...

[Partial Qualifier]

Oh and I know all Thunder fans arent like this, this is just a bunch that ive seen on here, and before you tear into me remember, BOOMER SOONER!

Then why didn't you simply call out the ref-whiners by name instead of saying "YOU Thunder fans" ? All fanbases have ref-whiners. Sooners included. Mavs included (I think your exact words were "total screw job"... lol). This is nothing new.

My stance on this is: if you dont want to see a big disparity in foul shots, DON'T FOUL SO OFTEN.

[StoopTroup]

Man you Thunder fans are such hypocrits. In game 1 Dallas shot 7 less free throws than the Thunder but because Dirk had 24 by himself (even though Durant and Westbrook each had 18) you guys whined and moaned saying the officials were screwing OKC which is just ignorant to say. Now this game OKC shoots 36 free throws to Dallas' 18 and as one of you say, "its because the thunder are playing a great defense." Thats hilarious. See the end result though? Last nights game was a total screw job against Dallas, yet they still found a way to win the game, thats what GREAT teams do.

With all that said, Im still a Thunder fan but Dallas will always be my first team, but my god, you diehard Thunder fans need to get your heads out of your asses and quit acting like the only way they ever lose is because the refs screw them, it makes the fanbase look so ignorant. How bout getting ahold of that hothead Westbrook who can only score 30pts on 30 or more shots which drives down team morale. Hes a damn liability with a boatload of talent but way too selfish.

Oh and I know all Thunder fans arent like this, this is just a bunch that ive seen on here, and before you tear into me remember, BOOMER SOONER!

That's a bit to big for a sig line huh?

[Partial Qualifier]

The defense Dallas played was better I suppose, but I've never seen the Thunder miss so many shots on open looks. Maybe one other time in the past two years. I think the Thunder comes into home games in these situations thinking the crowd will buoy them to a win. The effort was just embarrassing, except Westbrook, ironically.

I'm okay with leaving Sefolosha in there, but Brooks: if you're gonna stick with Perkins, how bout developing a post-up shot or two? I think Mohammed should be seeing as many (if not MORE) minutes against Dallas as Perkins is getting.

[GrapevineSooner]

The defense Dallas played was better I suppose, but I've never seen the Thunder miss so many shots on open looks. Maybe one other time in the past two years. I think the Thunder comes into home games in these situations thinking the crowd will buoy them to a win. The effort was just embarrassing, except Westbrook, ironically.

I'm okay with leaving Sefolosha in there, but Brooks: if you're gonna stick with Perkins, how bout developing a post-up shot or two? I think Mohammed should be seeing as many (if not MORE) minutes against Dallas as Perkins is getting.

I don't disagree with the last part. I caught the Mavs post game show on The Ticket last night and Donovan Lewis made it a point to talk about how "meh" Perkins game has been in this series.

On Boston, he fit because they had Kevin Garnett down in the post as an offensive threat. But he's black hole offensively.

So much so that I remember in Game 1 or 2, the Mavs collapsed 3 guys on him and I yelled at the TV for doing it.

I thought Mohammed gave the Thunder some good energy against Memphis last round and I'm surprised Brooks hasn't gone to him. I guess he's valuing that veteran experience from Perkins, but it's not like Mohammed is lacking in that department.

Afterall, he did play on one of those Spurs championship teams in '05 if I'm not mistaken.

[Partial Qualifier]

I'm befuddled as to why we don't start Collison or Mohammed. I think Brooks needs to step back for a minute and remember how effective Collison & Ibaka were together. The complete lack of post-up offense is why teams are figuring out they can sell out defensively on the perimeter against the Thunder and get away with it.

[bornnbredou]

Then why didn't you simply call out the ref-whiners by name instead of saying "YOU Thunder fans" ? All fanbases have ref-whiners. Sooners included. Mavs included (I think your exact words were "total screw job"... lol). This is nothing new.

My stance on this is: if you dont want to see a big disparity in foul shots, DON'T FOUL SO OFTEN.

The reason I said YOU thunder fans is because almost all of the Thunder fans ive seen on here are a bunch of whiners. And I wasnt anywhere near whining about the last game, I used it as an example because it was a total screw job attempt, thats all I will say about it though, no complaining at all because my team can actually overcome that sort of thing.

[soonervegas]

The reason I said YOU thunder fans is because almost all of the Thunder fans ive seen on here are a bunch of whiners. And I wasnt anywhere near whining about the last game, I used it as an example because it was a total screw job attempt, thats all I will say about it though, no complaining at all because my team can actually overcome that sort of thing.

"Your team" has a median experience level of about 10 years on the Thunder. They should be able to overcome things that the Thunder cannot. As ignorant as the Thunder fans ref whining has been, you top it with your Skip Bayless inspired talking points about Westbrook.

[bornnbredou]

"Your team" has a median experience level of about 10 years on the Thunder. They should be able to overcome things that the Thunder cannot. As ignorant as the Thunder fans ref whining has been, you top it with your Skip Bayless inspired talking points about Westbrook.

Way to completely make my point for me. And please convince me that the Thunder would not be a better team with a much less selfish pg like jason kidd or chris paul or a pg of that nature who could get the ball to durant and harden on a steady basis, you know, the guys who actually have offensive talent. Westbrook is probably my favorite player on the Thunder and might have the most upside, but until he learns to play with a team he will only bring them down. Hes young and will get better with time, especially if brooks gets through to him. Id love to intelligently debate this with you but im sure youll only embarrass yourself, you probably only started following basketball 3 years ago when the Sonics came to OKC.

[Partial Qualifier]

Way to completely make my point for me. And please convince me that the Thunder would not be a better team with a much less selfish pg like jason kidd or chris paul or a pg of that nature who could get the ball to durant and harden on a steady basis, you know, the guys who actually have offensive talent. Westbrook is probably my favorite player on the Thunder and might have the most upside, but until he learns to play with a team he will only bring them down. Hes young and will get better with time, especially if brooks gets through to him. Id love to intelligently debate this with you but im sure youll only embarrass yourself, you probably only started following basketball 3 years ago when the Sonics came to OKC.

Oh ye grizzled basketball-watching veteran: If Westbrook brings the Thunder down, please explain how he's led this team of 21 and 22 year olds on a supremely improbable run to the conference finals, with zero low-post scoring to help. I'll listen intently off the air.

You lump all Thunder fans together, and then this. I bet you're the football fan who fixates on the QB when the team loses, because you don't recognize the WR's arent getting open and the OL isn't blocking.

[silverwheels]

Way to completely make my point for me. And please convince me that the Thunder would not be a better team with a much less selfish pg like jason kidd or chris paul or a pg of that nature who could get the ball to durant and harden on a steady basis, you know, the guys who actually have offensive talent. Westbrook is probably my favorite player on the Thunder and might have the most upside, but until he learns to play with a team he will only bring them down. Hes young and will get better with time, especially if brooks gets through to him. Id love to intelligently debate this with you but im sure youll only embarrass yourself, you probably only started following basketball 3 years ago when the Sonics came to OKC.

Based on your posts, you probably only started following basketball (and other team sports) 3 weeks ago.

[GrapevineSooner]

Way to completely make my point for me. And please convince me that the Thunder would not be a better team with a much less selfish pg like jason kidd or chris paul or a pg of that nature who could get the ball to durant and harden on a steady basis, you know, the guys who actually have offensive talent. Westbrook is probably my favorite player on the Thunder and might have the most upside, but until he learns to play with a team he will only bring them down. Hes young and will get better with time, especially if brooks gets through to him. Id love to intelligently debate this with you but im sure youll only embarrass yourself, you probably only started following basketball 3 years ago when the Sonics came to OKC.

Ben and Skin here in Dallas had Berry Tramel on and one of them pointed out that if you take Westbook's baskets out of the equation, OKC's FG percentage drops from 36% to 21%.

So there goes your theory.

Also, don't be afraid to mix in a paragraph or two in your posts.

[OU_Sooners75]

Oh and I know all Thunder fans arent like this, this is just a bunch that ive seen on here, and before you tear into me remember, BOOMER SOONER!



:gary:


Skip, is that you?

[SoonerNate]

Is the West game tonight?

[bornnbredou]

Well I seem to have ruffled some feathers. Listen, you all know what I am saying is true you just dont want to admit it. Westbrooks play is killing the Thunder right now. I will stop with the Thunder bashing because I do like them a lot and they are going to be a force the the next decade.

I will say though, if Westbrook hits his 15ft jumper, that he usually misses 6 seconds into the shot clock with wide open shooters on both wings, then he is unstoppable combined with his ability to drive the ball to the basket. Ive yet to see that in this series though and so have all of you so continue to tell me im crazy but what im saying isnt bashing its observation. They would be unstoppable with a more unselfish pg who played to his strengths. Im not saying Westbrook cant be that guy, but right now he isnt being that guy.

Oh and I cant stand Skip Bayless, total moron. ;)

[bornnbredou]

Is the West game tonight?

yessir, 8pm ESPN.

[bornnbredou]

Ben and Skin here in Dallas had Berry Tramel on and one of them pointed out that if you take Westbook's baskets out of the equation, OKC's FG percentage drops from 36% to 21%.

So there goes your theory.

Also, don't be afraid to mix in a paragraph or two in your posts.

Link it or its just more babble from sports radio. Actually just looking at other players shooting % right now its easy to see thats a made up stat. Westbrook is shooting a worse percentage in the playoffs than any of the 5 starters and Harden on the bench. Nice try though.

[SoonerNate]

Okay. Go OKC.

[colleyvillesooner]

Ben and Skin here in Dallas had Berry Tramel on and one of them pointed out that if you take Westbook's baskets out of the equation, OKC's FG percentage drops from 36% to 21%.

So there goes your theory.

Also, don't be afraid to mix in a paragraph or two in your posts.

That's what you get for listening to Ben and Skin. I cant make the math work that way when I look at it. I tried a couple different ways too. Take out Westbrook and it goes from 36 to 35. He was only 8-20.
This was only looking at game 3.

[bornnbredou]

That's what you get for listening to Ben and Skin. I cant make the math work that way when I look at it. I tried a couple different ways too. Take out Westbrook and it goes from 36 to 35. He was only 8-20.
This was only looking at game 3.

You cant make the math work because its a made up stat. Westbrook is shooting 4 % points less than the next lowest fg % from a starter and harden. Theres no way that stat is right, they probably just said it in blind defense of Westbrook like all the Thunder fans on here.

[colleyvillesooner]

That's the weird thing, they are Dallas Radio and huge Mavs fans, so it wasn't in blind defense of Westbrook.