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MR2-Sooner86
3/31/2011, 08:03 PM
MGM is changing the villains in its 'Red Dawn' remake from Chinese to North Korean. It's all about maintaining access to the Asian superpower's lucrative box office. (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-china-red-dawn-20110316,0,995726.story)


China has become such an important market for U.S. entertainment companies that one studio has taken the extraordinary step of digitally altering a film to excise bad guys from the Communist nation lest the leadership in Beijing be offended.

When MGM decided a few years ago to remake "Red Dawn," a 1984 Cold War drama about a bunch of American farm kids repelling a Soviet invasion, the studio needed new villains, since the U.S.S.R. had collapsed in 1991. The producers substituted Chinese aggressors for the Soviets and filmed the movie in Michigan in 2009.

But potential distributors are nervous about becoming associated with the finished film, concerned that doing so would harm their ability to do business with the rising Asian superpower, one of the fastest-growing and potentially most lucrative markets for American movies, not to mention other U.S. products.

As a result, the filmmakers now are digitally erasing Chinese flags and military symbols from "Red Dawn," substituting dialogue and altering the film to depict much of the invading force as being from North Korea, an isolated country where American media companies have no dollars at stake.

The changes illustrate just how much sway China's government has in the global entertainment industry, even without uttering a word of official protest. Although it's unclear if anyone in China has seen "Red Dawn," a leaked version of the script last year resulted in critical editorials in the Global Times, a communist party-controlled paper.

That followed postings of pictures on China's popular Web portals Sina and Tiexue in late 2009 of the "Red Dawn" set showing actors posing as Chinese troops and mock propaganda posters of the U.S. Capitol building smashed by a hammer. The posts received tens of the thousands of views. "When does it come out?" read one Chinese comment. "There is no hope for theatrical screening [censorship], wait for pirated version."

An MGM spokesman said that no one at the studio has had discussions with Chinese government officials about "Red Dawn."

Hollywood has learned the hard way that besmirching China's image on-screen can have long-running implications for the many arms of a modern media conglomerate. In the late 1990s, Walt Disney Studios, Sony Pictures and MGM all faced a temporary halt in their business dealings in the country after releasing the movies "Kundun," "Seven Years in Tibet" and "Red Corner," respectively, which were critical of the communist government.

Today, China is far more important to the Hollywood studios, despite the government's policy of allowing only about 20 non-Chinese films into theaters each year. In 2010, China was the fifth-biggest box office market outside of the United States, with $1.5 billion in revenue.

A number of Hollywood studios are deepening their business ties to the world's most populous nation. Disney is building a theme park outside Shanghai, Sony Pictures co-produced the recent "Karate Kid" remake with the government-affiliated China Film Group, and News Corp.'s Fox International Productions recently made the Chinese-language hit "Hot Summer Days" there. Even independent studios like Lionsgate and Summit Entertainment will release their films "Killers" and "Red" in China in coming months.

Dan Mintz, whose DMG Entertainment is a leading producer and distributor of movies in China, said the "Red Dawn" story dramatizes how Western companies can fundamentally misunderstand how the nation works. If the picture had gone out without redacting the Chinese invaders, he said, "there would have been a real backlash. It's like being invited to a dinner party and insulting the host all night long. There's no way to look good.... The film itself was not a smart move."

Mintz, who met with the producers of "Red Dawn" to offer some suggestions on how they could proceed, said that doing business in China requires a partnership approach. "The more you reach out, the better your relationships will be," Mintz said. "This is bigger than a single film."

The "Red Dawn" remake follows several teenagers in Spokane, Wash., who fight invading Chinese forces allied with Russia in the near future (in the original film, the Soviets partnered with Cubans). The roughly $60-million production stars Chris Hemsworth, who will become much better known to moviegoers this May when he plays the title role in the superhero event picture "Thor."

MGM had been set to release "Red Dawn" in November, but the debt-laden studio filed for bankruptcy the month before and emerged under new leadership at the end of the year. New chief executives Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum are seeking to sell both "Red Dawn" and the horror film "The Cabin in the Woods," the last two pictures produced under a previous regime, as they try to reshape the 87-year-old company.

China will be an important market for the studio as it goes ahead with plans to produce two movies based on "The Hobbit" and James Bond sequels. The last Bond movie, 2008's "Quantum of Solace," grossed $21 million in China.

In the last few weeks, MGM has begun showing "Red Dawn" to potential buyers at other studios. Several people who have seen the movie but requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record said they couldn't risk distributing it given the potential blowback in China.

The feedback led to MGM's decision to make the highly unusual changes. Although it's common to reshape movies in the editing room, there's no known precedent for changing the nationality of an entire group of characters.

People close to the picture said the changes will cost less than $1 million and involve changing an opening sequence summarizing the story's fictional backdrop, re-editing two scenes and using digital technology to transform many Chinese symbols to Korean. It's impossible to eliminate all references to China, the people said, though the changes will give North Korea a much larger role in the coalition that invades the U.S.

"We were initially very reluctant to make any changes," said Tripp Vinson, one of the movie's producers. "But after careful consideration we constructed a way to make a scarier, smarter and more dangerous 'Red Dawn' that we believe improves the movie."

Representatives for director Dan Bradley did not respond to requests for comment.

If MGM is unable to find a distributor for the movie, it could end up going direct-to-DVD or could even be shelved, never to be seen by the public.

"Red Dawn" is not the only piece of entertainment to swap out Chinese villains for North Koreans recently. The video game "Homefront," which was released this week and features a script by John Milius, writer of the original "Red Dawn," was also originally intended to feature a Chinese invasion. For business reasons, publisher THQ changed the occupying forces to North Korea.

A representative for MGM said it's hopeful the unusual changes will have a simple result: turning "Red Dawn" from a complete write-off into a movie that can find an audience and make money.

"MGM has been working with the film 'Red Dawn's' director and producers to make the most commercially viable version of the film for audiences worldwide," said Mike Vollman, executive vice president of worldwide marketing. "We want to ensure the most people possible are able to experience it."

Well, the film seemed semi-good while it lasted. North Korea? Yeah... :rolleyes:

soonerinabilene
3/31/2011, 08:10 PM
Kim Jong cant hang with the wolverines.

Mongo
3/31/2011, 08:12 PM
show the NK soldiers some food and the availability of electricity and they will defect

jumperstop
3/31/2011, 08:17 PM
Never seen the original, good? Great?

salth2o
3/31/2011, 08:51 PM
Never seen the original, good? Great?

Great!


I get tired of remakes.

StoopTroup
3/31/2011, 09:04 PM
Sounds good to me as long as there is more sex in this one...

MR2-Sooner86
3/31/2011, 10:44 PM
Never seen the original, good? Great?

Try ****ing awesome.

Leroy Lizard
3/31/2011, 11:14 PM
MR2, could you please tone it down? You might insult the Russians and Cubans.

How about, "interesting."

MR2-Sooner86
3/31/2011, 11:17 PM
MR2, could you please tone it down? You might insult the Russians and Cubans.

How about, "interesting."

They don't hold our debt so why should I care?

ouwasp
3/31/2011, 11:43 PM
Remember The Sum of All Fears? In the book it was Radical Moslems setting off a nuke at the Super Bowl. But, due to PC, the villains were changed to Nazis, the German/Austrian kind.

Now how exactly is provoking a nuclear war between the US and Russia going to benefit Germany?! :confused: Don't those dolts ever look at an atlas?

Moslems nuking us was much more realistic. Yeah, I know, Islam is a religion of peace... :rolleyes:

GKeeper316
4/1/2011, 12:57 AM
like i'd ever believe the north koreans had either the troops or logistical capability of invading and occupying the united states. they couldnt even take hawaii.

hawaii 5-0
4/1/2011, 02:58 AM
like i'd ever believe the north koreans had either the troops or logistical capability of invading and occupying the united states. they couldnt even take hawaii.



Stationed here are Marines, Army, Air Force and of course a bunch of nuclear subs. Even an aircraft carrier drops by once in awhile.


No one is sneaking up on Hawaii anytime soon.


5-0

Okla-homey
4/1/2011, 05:18 AM
Stupid premise. The PRK can barely feed itself, much less head off on a World Invasion Tour. The PRK military is built tactically and operationally to fight only on the Korean peninsula.

sappstuf
4/1/2011, 06:22 AM
Even worse, the school mascot has been changed from Wolverines to Ozark Hellbenders...

http://www.ozarkhellbender.com/images/sm%20Crypto-Sprg%20R.jpg

texaspokieokie
4/1/2011, 08:08 AM
like i'd ever believe the north koreans had either the troops or logistical capability of invading and occupying the united states. they couldnt even take hawaii.

couldn't take south korea.

OUmillenium
4/1/2011, 09:26 AM
Original Red Dawn was good stuff. Ninja movies + Red Dawn = teenage fun in the 80s.

Position Limit
4/1/2011, 10:08 AM
red dawn was the garden variety commie propaganda piece of the 1980's. hollywood learned of an easy buck in this market. capitalize on the fledgling political sensibilities of the mid western teen. us vs. them. i enjoyed it at the time and see no need for a remake. pleanty of other media outlets to beat the drum.

soonerchk
4/1/2011, 10:22 AM
China was on our side in the original Red Dawn. Did they not see the movie before deciding to remake it?

sappstuf
4/1/2011, 10:29 AM
China was on our side in the original Red Dawn. Did they not see the movie before deciding to remake it?

From memory...

"Us and 300 million Chinese."
"I thought there were a billion Chinese."
Throwing coffee into fire.
"There was."

Sooner98
4/1/2011, 10:29 AM
http://thesomewhatambitious.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/north-korea-is-best-korea.jpg

Leroy Lizard
4/1/2011, 10:35 AM
red dawn was the garden variety commie propaganda piece of the 1980's. hollywood learned of an easy buck in this market. capitalize on the fledgling political sensibilities of the mid western teen. us vs. them. i enjoyed it at the time and see no need for a remake. pleanty of other media outlets to beat the drum.

Dude probably likes Michael Moore.

soonerchk
4/1/2011, 10:44 AM
From memory...

"Us and 300 million Chinese."
"I thought there were a billion Chinese."
Throwing coffee into fire.
"There was."

Exactly. If only I could spek this.

okie52
4/1/2011, 11:34 AM
Russkies, Cubans, Chinese, N Koreans...all peanuts compared to the
real theat....Mexico....12,000,000 already here just awaiting orders.

RFH Shakes
4/1/2011, 11:53 AM
I'm surprised that Hollywood didn't change it to the US invading China and a group of Mid-Western Chinese teens fending us off! :)

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
4/1/2011, 01:02 PM
China was on our side in the original Red Dawn. Did they not see the movie before deciding to remake it?Radical Islam(Iran)would be the best villain, but that won't happen.

Aldebaran
4/1/2011, 01:14 PM
The DPRK isn't a credible global threat, and if it was Iran, the movie would end with Iran being turned into a glass desert after they attacked Israel.

And without a credible global threat, Red Dawn would be a really ****ty movie. I wish they'd just leave it alone.

MR2-Sooner86
4/1/2011, 01:29 PM
Here's an interesting look at things.

John Milius, who wrote and directed the original Red Dawn, wrote the story for the video game, Homefront, which just came out. In it he originally wanted it to be Chinese but changed it to North Koreas. He stated the developer didn't want to lose sells in China.

However, Milius apparently has some CIA sources and has an in with some military think tanks. This is where he got the details of the invasion in Red Dawn. He wrote a book to Homefront setting up the stage to the game. Apparently, it "could" be possible from what the CIA and military told him if things went a specific way. They also told him China isn't the big threat we think it is compared to the old Soviet Union.

Here's the timeline to Homefront and how North Korea invades the United States.


2011: North Korea faces another UN sanction over its latest nuclear test.
2012: Kim Jong-Il dies and is succeeded by his son Kim Jong-un.
2013: Kim Jong-un is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize and featured on the cover of Time Magazine for his accomplishment of Korean reunification.
2014: American military withdraws from the Korean Peninsula. General Motors declares bankruptcy for the second time.
2015: The effects of peak oil are felt as gas prices reach up to 20 dollars a gallon due to a war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Russia cuts off all oil trade with Europe. Survivalist literature become bestsellers in America. China's influences diminish.
2016: America withdraws its military from Japan and other countries overseas, focusing on its instability back home.
2017: Martial law is declared in the United States as its infrastructure crumbles due to financial deficiencies.
2018: After the destruction of one of its nuclear facilities by Korean special forces, Japan surrenders to the Greater Korean Republic and is capitalized into a vassal state.
2019: The UN goes out of commission.
2020: Canada closes its borders to Americans. The US military takes over the functions of many emergency services, as well as the distribution of basic goods. This causes many Americans to abandon the suburbs in exchange of the military-managed urban centers.
2021: Korean forces succeed in annexing many countries in Southeast Asia. A new pandemic known as the Knoxville Cough, a type of bird flu, begins to spread in the United States.
2022: To prevent the contagion of the Knoxville Cough, Mexico closes its borders to Americans. Hyperinflation pushes the US dollar to the edge of collapse.
2023: The Knoxville Cough ravages the American public. The Korean People's Army reaches 20 million total personnel.
2024: Using the captured M-V rockets at the Uchinoura Space Center, Kim Jong-un announces a new space satellite program, under the pretense of replacing the decaying GPS, which America could no longer afford to maintain.
2025: A thermonuclear device is detonated by one of the Korean satellites 300 miles above Kansas, blanketing America with an EMP that wipes out its power grid and most of the electronics above ground. The US infrastructure is virtually in ruins. This is followed by the Korean seizure of Hawaii and landings in San Francisco. Korean paratroopers are dropped into central United States. The economic downfall in Europe prevents its nations from intervening.
2026: The United States is split into two as the KPA irradiate the entire Mississippi River, as a fortification for their control of the western side.
2027: The United States Armed Forces are completely scattered.

Aldebaran
4/1/2011, 01:44 PM
WOLVERINES!

Pricetag
4/1/2011, 04:49 PM
They just need to cut their losses and start pressing the DVDs.