Street Agent Will Lyles tried to sell recruit for 80k???

[SoonerDan74012]

According to ESPN.com Will Lyles asked A&M for 80K for a recruit and ends up committing to LSU. I am at the local casino at the moment so bear with me until I get back home lol.

[jumperstop]

According to ESPN.com Will Lyles asked A&M for 80K for a recruit and ends up committing to LSU. I am at the local casino at the moment so bear with me until I get back home lol.

They can only afford Trans Ams....and they got stiffed on their last Trans Am purchase.

[SoonerDan74012]

The recruit in question was Patrick Peterson and it turns out it was an all out bidding war for his services.


Willie Lyles asked Texas A&M for $80KEmail Print Comments53 By Kelly Naqi
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Willie Lyles, a Texas-based football trainer who is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.


Van Malone, the former cornerbacks coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.


"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kid as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."


Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.


Malone is the recruiting coordinator and defensive secondary coach at University of Tulsa. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone added he told Patrick Peterson in a subsequent phone conversation that Lyles was trying to sell his services.


Neither Peterson nor Lyles could be reached Wednesday night. Peterson's father, Patrick Peterson Sr., said he remembers taking the visit with his son to Texas A&M.


Peterson Sr. described his son's visit to Texas A&M as a good trip. But he said he had a feeling his son would end up playing in the Southeastern Conference, not the Big 12. He said he had not heard any allegations that Lyles was asking schools for money for his son.


"This is my first time hearing this. This is a shocker," Peterson Sr. told ESPN. "It could have happened. It could have come out of [Lyles'] mouth, that's what happens. These guys try to make money on their own, they are kind of like escort services. That's what I call them, escort services."


Peterson Sr. said he has talked to Lyles at some football camps, but other than that, he said he has no relationship with Lyles. He said Lyles, when they've talked, is often asking him for information on players from Ely High School in Pompano Beach, Fla., which is his son's alma mater.


"It's like Cam Newton, same thing," Peterson Sr. said, referring to the Heisman Trophy winner and former Auburn quarterback whose father was found to have asked for up to $180,000 for Newton to play at Mississippi State. "These guys -- they are trying to get paid. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you deal with it. I just know him [Lyles] from the camps."


LSU officials could not be reached for comment. A Texas A&M spokesman said the university was unaware of Malone's comments about Lyles. Malone said he never told then-Texas A&M coach Dennis Franchione about Lyles' request because he planned to continue to recruit Peterson without going through Lyles.


Earlier, LSU officials confirmed the school paid $6,000 to Complete Scouting Services, a college recruiting firm that Lyles started early last year. An LSU spokesman said the school did receive a DVD from Lyles in exchange for the $6,000.


The NCAA is looking into Oregon's $25,000 payment to Lyles' firm and his involvement in the recruitment of running back Lache Seastrunk, of Temple, Texas, who ended up signing with the Ducks a few weeks before Oregon paid Complete Scouting Services. Oregon has confirmed it paid for Lyles' scouting service.


Peterson, who changed his last name from Johnson, was considered the top defensive back in the nation during his senior year in high school in 2007.

[Leroy Lizard]

Peterson Sr. described his son's visit to Texas A&M as a good trip. But he said he had a feeling his son would end up playing in the Southeastern Conference, not the Big 12.

So did Will Lyles.


Earlier, LSU officials confirmed the school paid $6,000 to Complete Scouting Services, a college recruiting firm that Lyles started early last year. An LSU spokesman said the school did receive a DVD from Lyles in exchange for the $6,000.

I'm in the wrong business.

[Quik Sand]

Hustlin Hustlin

[StoopTroup]

I'm in the wrong business.

Just start your own business like that guy did. I've seen your postings. That alone should open doors like a SWAT team in the projects.

[OU_Sooners75]

So...does this reflect on the schools?

Is there a rule stating that the schools cannot pay for "recruiting services"?

[SoonerDan74012]

So...does this reflect on the schools?

Is there a rule stating that the schools cannot pay for "recruiting services"?

The NCAA has been trying to find a way to get rid of these scumbags and thanks to Oregon, LSU, Okie St., and Auburn they now have that oppertunity.

[OU_Sooners75]

The NCAA has been trying to find a way to get rid of these scumbags and thanks to Oregon, LSU, Okie St., and Auburn they now have that oppertunity.


I understand that...but wouldn't it just be easier to call them agents and make it against the rules to hire "Recruiting Services"?

Essentially all those dongs are are sports agents hiding behind a company they call a recruiting service.

Just 2 decades ago there were no such services as there are today.
Why do schools need to pay for a recruiting service that the coaches have been able to do a decent job at for the last 100 years?

[Leroy Lizard]

Just start your own business like that guy did. I've seen your postings. That alone should open doors like a SWAT team in the projects.

Yeah, but I want my customers to actually like me.

[OU_Sooners75]

Yeah, but I want my customers to actually like me.


Well...better not start a business. :P

[Leroy Lizard]

I understand that...but wouldn't it just be easier to call them agents and make it against the rules to hire "Recruiting Services"?

Essentially all those dongs are are sports agents hiding behind a company they call a recruiting service.

Just 2 decades ago there were no such services as there are today.
Why do schools need to pay for a recruiting service that the coaches have been able to do a decent job at for the last 100 years?

I hope you plan on paying them more!!

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[StoopTroup]

Well...better not start a business. :P

No kidding. At least he recognizes his inability to be around people.

[SoonerDan74012]

I understand that...but wouldn't it just be easier to call them agents and make it against the rules to hire "Recruiting Services"?

Essentially all those dongs are are sports agents hiding behind a company they call a recruiting service.

Just 2 decades ago there were no such services as there are today.
Why do schools need to pay for a recruiting service that the coaches have been able to do a decent job at for the last 100 years?

You can bet we will see some new rules put in place banning the use of scouting services in all sports to prevent this kind of stuff. OU stays way far, far from these guys. OU backed off of Anthony Wallace and Chris Barnett for this very reason.

[soonerboomer93]

So...does this reflect on the schools?

Is there a rule stating that the schools cannot pay for "recruiting services"?

There are legitimate recruiting services afaik, these guys are more like AAU street agents that have helped ruin college b-ball.

That's my understanding anyway

[Soonerfan88]

Nice to see his dad using the $Cam excuse. That was a very bad precedent set by the NCAA. They are going to have to amend or make a new rule on this or every kid out there is going to be claiming they didn't know a thing. :rolleyes:

[rekamrettuB]

The NCAA is going to have to smack someone very hard with all that's come out over the last couple years. The punishment may not fit the actual crime committed by the university they use as their example but it will be a firm warning to the rest.

[badger]

I know we all hate the "we didn't know" excuse, but remember that we used the same one when RB and JDQ were "working" at BRS.

How is it so different for us to say "We didn't know" from them saying "we didn't know." Why can we use the excuse, get our wins restored and get off just eliminating two schollys for a few years and no lack of institutional control, then question the validity of the NCAA that gives the same leniency to players who also say "we didn't know."

Just sayin' since it's offseason and all. OU once "didn't know" also. Is it so wrong for players to also say that they "didn't know?" Where's the burden of proof on who needs to know.

[rekamrettuB]

I know we all hate the "we didn't know" excuse, but remember that we used the same one when RB and JDQ were "working" at BRS.

How is it so different for us to say "We didn't know" from them saying "we didn't know." Why can we use the excuse, get our wins restored and get off just eliminating two schollys for a few years and no lack of institutional control, then question the validity of the NCAA that gives the same leniency to players who also say "we didn't know."

Just sayin' since it's offseason and all. OU once "didn't know" also. Is it so wrong for players to also say that they "didn't know?" Where's the burden of proof on who needs to know.

Look at the way the two situations were handled by the universities involved. RB and JDQ were booted. Cam played. Maybe OU said it was OK that they did these things but when/if they got caught the players would have to pay the price...not the university. I feel pretty confident it was the other way around. There's under the table deals that every university knows nothing about nor will ever know.