Obama Details Energy Plan

[pphilfran]

How much you want to bet that when he starts talking about energy independence he starts spouting off about nukes, solar, and wind...though they won't save a drop of imported oil in the next 10 years...

Oh, and the article talks about increasing ethanol...yahoo!

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/30/obama-to-unveil-energy-security-plan/

WASHINGTON -- Facing pressure to curb rising gas prices, President Barack Obama is calling for the U.S. to reduce its oil imports by one-third over the next decade, a lofty goal likely to run into significant obstacles.

Senior administration officials say Obama will seek to reduce the U.S. dependence on foreign oil by boosting domestic energy production, offering incentives to increase the use of biofuels and natural gas, and making cars and trucks more fuel-efficient. Obama is expected to outline these steps during a speech on the nation's energy security Wednesday at Georgetown University.

In a speech Tuesday in New York City, Obama pointed to rising gasoline prices to underscore the need for a comprehensive energy plan.

"We've still got a lot of work to do on energy," the president told an audience of donors at The Studio Museum in Harlem. "The last time gas prices were this high was 2008 when I was running."

Obama contrasted his approach to an energy slogan popular among Republicans.

"The other side kept talking about 'drill, baby, drill.' That was the slogan," he said. "What we were talking about was breaking the pattern of being shocked by high prices" and then lulled into inaction.

Obama is far from the first president to set out to make the country energy-independent. U.S. presidents dating back to Richard Nixon had similar goals that achieved little success; the U.S. continues to be the world's top oil consumer and gets more than 60 percent of its oil from foreign sources.

Still, the White House is eager to show that the president understands the burden rising gasoline prices have on middle-class Americans, particularly as his re-election bid draws near. Gas prices have jumped more than 50 cents a gallon this year, due in part to a spike in oil prices amid instability in the oil-rich Middle East. Last week, gas prices averaged $3.58 a gallon nationwide, according to AAA's daily survey.

Even if U.S. consumption of oil drops, it will have little if any impact on gasoline prices, since oil is priced globally and increased demand from China and other developing nations continues to push prices up.

Republicans put the blame for the increased costs on Obama's policies, pointing to the slow pace of issuing permits for new offshore oil wells in the wake of last summer's massive Gulf of Mexico spill and an Obama-imposed moratorium on new deep-water exploration. GOP leaders have also assailed the president for saying last week in Latin America that he wanted the U.S. to be a "major customer" for the huge oil reserves Brazil recently discovered off its coast.

"Here we've got the administration looking for just about any excuse it can find to lock up our own energy sources here at home, even as it's applauding another country's efforts to grow its own economy and create jobs by tapping into its own energy sources," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Tuesday.

The administration officials offered few details on how Obama would turn the broad objectives he'll call for Wednesday into specific policies. They did, however, say the efforts would require increased spending on research and development. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to preview the president's speech.

Obama long has said the U.S. needs to reduce its dependency on oil -- particularly from overseas sources -- for financial, security and environmental reasons. In his State of the Union address in January, he set a goal of having 80 percent of U.S. energy come from clean sources like wind, solar and nuclear by 2035. Obama also had warmed to the notion of expanding offshore oil and natural gas exploration last year.

The administration says it still sees vast opportunities to expand on domestic oil and gas production. An Interior Department report released ahead of Obama's speech Wednesday said more than two-thirds of offshore leases in the Gulf of Mexico are sitting idle, neither producing oil and gas nor being actively explored by the companies who hold the leases. The department said those leases could potentially hold more than 11 billion barrels of oil and 50 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

Obama will also call Wednesday for increased use of biofuels and the construction of four new advanced biofuel plants in the U.S. However, advanced biofuels -- fuels made from non-food sources such as wood chips, switch grass or plant waste -- are still in their infancy and cannot yet be made in amounts similar to corn ethanol. Congress has directed more money to research and development of those fuels in recent years as some critics of corn ethanol have linked the diversion of corn for fuel to rising food prices.

Officials said Obama also would reaffirm his support for nuclear power, which has come under intense scrutiny in recent weeks after an earthquake and tsunami in Japan severely damaged a nuclear power plant there. As a result of the crisis, U.S. government regulators are reviewing a wide range of issues potentially affecting the 104 U.S. nuclear power reactors, including safeguards to protect them against natural disasters and terrorist attacks.

[okie52]

Offhsore drilling in Brazil...good. A new trade deficit partner.

Offshore drilling in US....bad. Maybe even onshore, too.

[okie52]

Phil, how's Obama doing on his wind and solar promise so far?

[The Profit]

Offhsore drilling in Brazil...good. A new trade deficit partner.

Offshore drilling in US....bad. Maybe even onshore, too.




I really have no problem with shallow off-shore wells. We proved last year that we are not ready to safely drill and maintain deep offshore wells. I would like a law passed that requires all oil drilled in US territory to stay in the US until all US oil requirements are satisfied. It does no good to drill in the US, send the oil elsewhere, and then be forced to purchase oil from the middle east.

I like the pursuit of alternative fuels, including NG, BIO, Wind, Solar, etc. I especially like the idea of converting nearly all oil-based fuel to natural gas. I don't like his (Obama's) continued interest in nuclear energy. We all know what a disaster that can be, and I just saw on Nightline last evening what precarious shape that many of our nuclear facilities are in. When we can safely produce fusion nuclear energy maybe my attitude will change.

[sappstuf]

Obama has an energy plan??

[NormanPride]

I've never understood how US resources can be drilled by other entities and then sold back to the US. It seems ridiculous.

[Ike]

When we can safely produce fusion nuclear energy maybe my attitude will change.

forget safely producing it...I'd go for producing fusion energy at all.*




*And by producing, I mean a situation where the energy we get out is greater than the energy we put in. That hasn't happened yet.

[okie52]

I really have no problem with shallow off-shore wells. We proved last year that we are not ready to safely drill and maintain deep offshore wells. I would like a law passed that requires all oil drilled in US territory to stay in the US until all US oil requirements are satisfied. It does no good to drill in the US, send the oil elsewhere, and then be forced to purchase oil from the middle east.

I like the pursuit of alternative fuels, including NG, BIO, Wind, Solar, etc. I especially like the idea of converting nearly all oil-based fuel to natural gas. I don't like his (Obama's) continued interest in nuclear energy. We all know what a disaster that can be, and I just saw on Nightline last evening what precarious shape that many of our nuclear facilities are in. When we can safely produce fusion nuclear energy maybe my attitude will change.

We have been drilling deepwater offshore for quite some time now. And it isn't just in the US but around the world, BP's disaster notwithstanding. And, of course, Obama's 500' was a ludicrous depth limitation. Everyone will continue to pursue oil until an alternative source is found and that doesn't appear to be on the horizon for the next few decades.

The US could always include in any lease they give a call on production. In most cases that oil is going to the US anyway because shipping costs are less or they run pipelines to the wells which greatly reduce costs. Drilling offshore is not about price reduction because that is established internationally but it will help ensure that our crude supplies will be less vulnerable.

The many other benefits from drilling offshore will be a reduction in our trade deficit (which is largely due to imported oil), bonus money for the government on leases, royalties from production, high paying jobs, and tax revenues on both the oil companies and their employees.

But Obama hasn't shown any vision on converting our transportation sector to NG or electrics. That is where most of our oil goes and both electrics and NG would reduce CO2 over oil and/or coal.

As far as nukes go I am still all for them. A 9.0 earthquake and a huge sunami in Japan shouldn't change that. Just make sure our nukes aren't built on fault lines or near the coast. We need nukes to displace coal and help power our transportation sector.

[okie52]

I've never understood how US resources can be drilled by other entities and then sold back to the US. It seems ridiculous.

They pay the government for the right to lease their minerals (usually an auction). The government should get bonus money for the lease as well as a share (1/8 to 3/16) of the future production just like any mineral owner in OK would get.

[yermom]

I've never understood how US resources can be drilled by other entities and then sold back to the US. It seems ridiculous.

how socialist of you ;)

[NormanPride]

It just seems especially weird when oil is a strategic resource, not just something renewable like corn or trees.

[REDREX]

I really have no problem with shallow off-shore wells. We proved last year that we are not ready to safely drill and maintain deep offshore wells. I would like a law passed that requires all oil drilled in US territory to stay in the US until all US oil requirements are satisfied. It does no good to drill in the US, send the oil elsewhere, and then be forced to purchase oil from the middle east.

I like the pursuit of alternative fuels, including NG, BIO, Wind, Solar, etc. I especially like the idea of converting nearly all oil-based fuel to natural gas. I don't like his (Obama's) continued interest in nuclear energy. We all know what a disaster that can be, and I just saw on Nightline last evening what precarious shape that many of our nuclear facilities are in. When we can safely produce fusion nuclear energy maybe my attitude will change.
---What US produced oil is being exported?

[okie52]

It just seems especially weird when oil is a strategic resource, not just something renewable like corn or trees.

It's a strategic resource that has gone untapped in the Atlantic and Pacific coasts for about 40 years due to congressional moratoriums and presidential ones. However, both of those moratoriums ended in late 2008, well before Obama took office. Yet we haven't seen any drilling on either coast in Obama's 1st 2 years...we haven't even seen a lease given in those areas.
The seismic data on our coasts is about 30 years old and that was done with ancient seismic technology with the assumption we would use antiquated drilling techniques. Horizontal drilling and current frac technology has changed all expectations about reserves and what would be commercially viable.

There are vast reserves of oil and NG off of our coasts that could help wean us off of foreign oil, particularly the ME. Whether they are drilled by a foreign company or our own really doesn't matter as most of the oil will come to the US and the government will reap the profits from every successful well.

Exxon, Chevron, Phillips, et al, all make similar arangements with foreign governments when they drill off of their coasts.

[yermom]

---What US produced oil are we exporting?


who is we?

do US customers get a discount? if they did, would they be forced to sell to us? should they be?

[REDREX]

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[REDREX]

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[pphilfran]

Phil, how's Obama doing on his wind and solar promise so far?

lol...

He is into the third and final year of his promise to double renewable energy within 3 years...current data ends Dec 2010, so two years of data available...

Up 14% his first year...
Up another 17% last year...

Total from Jan 2009 to Dec 2010...33%..

Just 67% more this year and we will be golden...I can't believe he missed...I never would have thunk it....

Actually he said total energy usage...so the decline in overall electrical usage helps his cause...

EIA has changed the format of their site and I am having a hell of a time finding all their data spreadsheets...if I locate the total energy use sheet I will post a more accurate update...

[okie52]

who is we?

do US customers get a discount? if they did, would they be forced to sell to us? should they be?

Almost all of our oil is consumed domestically. The government gets the profits (royalties and lease bonus money)...which is the people of the US.

[The Profit]

lol...

He is into the third and final year of his promise to double renewable energy within 3 years...current data ends Dec 2010, so two years of data available...

Up 14% his first year...
Up another 17% last year...

Total from Jan 2009 to Dec 2010...33%..

Just 67% more this year and we will be golden...I can't believe he missed...I never would have thunk it....

Actually he said total energy usage...so the decline in overall electrical usage helps his cause...

EIA has changed the format of their site and I am having a hell of a time finding all their data spreadsheets...if I locate the total energy use sheet I will post a more accurate update...




Phil, can you do me a favor and explain to Redrex how the oil world market works. You explained it to me once upon a time, but I can't remember it. This request is based on my desire to have a law that states all oil produced in the US, or in US territories stays in the US.

[okie52]

lol...

He is into the third and final year of his promise to double renewable energy within 3 years...current data ends Dec 2010, so two years of data available...

Up 14% his first year...
Up another 17% last year...

Total from Jan 2009 to Dec 2010...33%..

Just 67% more this year and we will be golden...I can't believe he missed...I never would have thunk it....

Actually he said total energy usage...so the decline in overall electrical usage helps his cause...

EIA has changed the format of their site and I am having a hell of a time finding all their data spreadsheets...if I locate the total energy use sheet I will post a more accurate update...

I knew you were projecting that he wasn't close to meeting those goals a year ago. With all of our stimulus and green energy jobs I can't imagine how he is coming up short.

I have only glanced at EIA recently and saw the change you are talking about. It might take a while to get familiar with their site.

[REDREX]

Phil, can you do me a favor and explain to Redrex how the oil world market works. You explained it to me once upon a time, but I can't remember it. This request is based on my desire to have a law that states all oil produced in the US, or in US territories stays in the US.---Grow up Profit---I have been in the business for 35 years---Just tell me what US crude oil production is being exported?---

[pphilfran]

---What US produced oil is being exported?

It really doesn't matter if we do sell oil...this in not for you, Red, more targeted toward Profit...

Say we produce 10 gallons of oil a year...and lets also say we use 20 gallons a year...and oil costs 10 bucks a gallon...

We import 10 to meet our demand...

So we send 100 greenbacks overseas...

Now, in scenario #2 we go and sell 2 barrels to China...so we get 20 bucks for the sale of the oil and our bank account balloons...

But...

We need 20 total gallons...we have 8 left after the sale so we buy 12 gallons from Brazil (from their new offshore field)...and pay out 120 bucks ...minus the 20 we have in the bank from the earlier sale...and we are down 100 bucks..

Same 100 bucks either way...

[pphilfran]

BTW we sell about 150k barrels a month....

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=wcrexus2&f=4

[The Profit]

---Grow up Profit---I have been in the business for 35 years---Just tell me what US crude oil production is being exported?---



What the hell do you mean, "grow-up?" I wasn't asking Phil for advice to put you down. I was just trying to remember what Phil had explained to me earlier. Oh, and another thing, I could give a flying .... how long you have been in that dirty and corrupt business. Next time, think before you mouth off.

[REDREX]

What the hell do you mean, "grow-up?" I wasn't asking Phil for advice to put you down. I was just trying to remember what Phil had explained to me earlier. Oh, and another thing, I could give a flying .... how long you have been in that dirty and corrupt business. Next time, think before you mouth off.--- Yes that "dirty corrupt business" that produces the product you sell

[pphilfran]

What the hell do you mean, "grow-up?" I wasn't asking Phil for advice to put you down. I was just trying to remember what Phil had explained to me earlier. Oh, and another thing, I could give a flying .... how long you have been in that dirty and corrupt business. Next time, think before you mouth off.

Profit...I honestly can't remember what lies I spewed to you....:)

[sappstuf]

What the hell do you mean, "grow-up?" I wasn't asking Phil for advice to put you down. I was just trying to remember what Phil had explained to me earlier. Oh, and another thing, I could give a flying .... how long you have been in that dirty and corrupt business. Next time, think before you mouth off.

How long have you been buying from that dirty and corrupt business? ;)

[GrapevineSooner]

Without seeing this speech, I'm going to assume it sounded a lot like this (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-june-16-2010/an-energy-independent-future).

[C&CDean]

I don't know about the goob in the White House, but I just finished my daily walk, and I always come back under the Department of Energy building. Sometimes eat in their chow hall too. They always have several cops - all with CBR equipment strapped to their leg (gas masks for you civilians) and there's always a couple of them with dogs. Wonder what they're worried about?

Carry on with the non-important stuff...

[AlboSooner]

We have the science, the people, and the technology to curb our addiction to foreign oil.

The fact that no administration has undertaken a serious plan to get us off foreign oil, tells me there are powers who have a lot of money, who want us to keep buying foreign oil, and be in the middle east. These powers range from powerful corporations, to foreign nations who regularly pay huge amounts of money to sway politicians to their side.


It makes no sense to me, why NG (at least) is so underused. You could run all public transportation in the US with NG, and that would make a huge dent in oil demand. Norman has some NG buses and they work nicely. Why not the whole US?

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Offhsore drilling in Brazil...good. A new trade deficit partner.

Offshore drilling in US....bad. Maybe even onshore, too.

I was wondering why we were supporting BRazil's oil program, yet denying ours and throughing roadblocks to home grown oil...

Then I heard on Rush Limbaugh that the largest single private investor in Petrobras we none other that George Soros.... Now I get it. Obummer, you are a SMFAH! That's what I say about that.

[pphilfran]

We have the science, the people, and the technology to curb our addiction to foreign oil.

The fact that no administration has undertaken a serious plan to get us off foreign oil, tells me there are powers who have a lot of money, who want us to keep buying foreign oil, and be in the middle east. These powers range from powerful corporations, to foreign nations who regularly pay huge amounts of money to sway politicians to their side.


It makes no sense to me, why NG (at least) is so underused. You could run all public transportation in the US with NG, and that would make a huge dent in oil demand. Norman has some NG buses and they work nicely. Why not the whole US?

Obama may say his plan is to reduce our reliance on crude...but he is actually much more concerned about CO2, and his current policy reflects that fact...and NG is a emitter of CO2...

Whenever he starts talking about wind and solar he is not talking about reducing our dependence on oil...he is talking about reducing CO2, no matter what inaccuracies he touts...

He is only muddying the water and confusing many people...

[TheHumanAlphabet]

He is only muddying the water and confusing many people...

Entirely his plan until he gets in place what he wants...

[okie52]

Obama may say his plan is to reduce our reliance on crude...but he is actually much more concerned about CO2, and his current policy reflects that fact...and NG is a emitter of CO2...

Whenever he starts talking about wind and solar he is not talking about reducing our dependence on oil...he is talking about reducing CO2, no matter what inaccuracies he touts...

He is only muddying the water and confusing many people...

Except he also knows NG is cleaner than ethanol....one of his main energy subsidies.

[pphilfran]

Except he also knows NG is cleaner than ethanol....one of his main energy subsidies.

Hell, NG must be cleaner...it is not a carbon based fuel, is it?

[okie52]

Hell, NG must be cleaner...it is not a carbon based fuel, is it?

Well according to nancy it isn't.

[pphilfran]

Well according to nancy it isn't.

:) I knew you would pick up on my statement...

This place is hopping this morning...

[saucysoonergal]

I like NG, I am just afraid of those tanks.

[pphilfran]

I like NG, I am just afraid of those tanks.


The tanks are fine...they should have little or no failure rates...capacity is the biggest problem...

If you are concerned about fire hazard a 100% ethanol fuel will burn with no visible flame....so you won't even know if you are on fire until your short hairs get singed...unless, you know, you trim...

[saucysoonergal]

The tanks are fine...they should have little or no failure rates...capacity is the biggest problem...

If you are concerned about fire hazard a 100% ethanol fuel will burn with no visible flame....so you won't even know if you are on fire until your short hairs get singed...unless, you know, you trim...

What about in collisions?

[C&CDean]

What about in collisions?

Boom. You are scattered to all points of the compass. Saves your family a ****load of burial/prep expenses. Win-win.

[pphilfran]

What about in collisions?

I don't think there is a problem...there are a bunch of pick em up trucks running around with tanks...have been for years...I haven't seen or heard of any instance that one cracked...

They are probably just as safe as drilling off shore or nukes...jk....

[saucysoonergal]

Boom. You are scattered to all points of the compass. Saves your family a ****load of burial/prep expenses. Win-win.

Kinda of like lighting a match near the portapotty when STEP is inside.


Gotcha.

[pphilfran]

C&C...do you use any NG on your spread?

[C&CDean]

C&C...do you use any NG on your spread?

Nay. Diesel in all my tractors and trucks except one 1/2 ton pickup that runs gasoline. I've got a lot of smaller equipment (pecan cleaner, water pump, mowers, etc.) that run gasoline.

I have a couple neighbors who have some propane equipment, but the equipment doesn't perform nearly as well as a diesel.

[Jammin']

I don't understand people being against nuclear because of the deal in Japan. If anything, it has increased my awareness on the fact it is pretty damn good. Explain yourselves doubters.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Boom. You are scattered to all points of the compass. Saves your family a ****load of burial/prep expenses. Win-win.

NG might go boom, LNG doesn't...biggest issue is pool fire.

[ouduckhunter]

I think that some American company just needs to go rogue, get out there in the Gulf, or ANWR and get to drilling! Permits, papers, fees, years of government red tape be dam*ed!!

What's the Obama administration, Eric Holder, the environmentalist gonna do...send warships, Greenpeace, etc into the Gulf to shut em down while many Americans cheer the oil company on! That would be a PR nightmare on so many levels for the administration that it would be hilarious! It's time for common sense and a company with balls to prevail!!

Drill baby, drill!!

[sappstuf]

My favorite part was when the President started decrying slogans and gimmicks..


But here’s the thing – we’ve been down this road before. Remember, it was just three years ago that gas prices topped $4 a gallon. Working folks haven’t forgotten that. It hit a lot of people pretty hard. But it was also the height of political season, so you had a lot of slogans and gimmicks and outraged politicians waving three-point-plans for two-dollar gas – when none of it would really do anything to solve the problem. Imagine that in Washington.

Pssst.. Mr. President.. Look behind you!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/sappstuf/Obama-Georgetown.jpg

[Jammin']

I think that some American company just needs to go rogue, get out there in the Gulf, or ANWR and get to drilling! Permits, papers, fees, years of government red tape be dam*ed!!

What's the Obama administration, Eric Holder, the environmentalist gonna do...send warships, Greenpeace, etc into the Gulf to shut em down while many Americans cheer the oil company on! That would be a PR nightmare on so many levels for the administration that it would be hilarious! It's time for common sense and a company with balls to prevail!!

Drill baby, drill!!

The fact you used the phrase "common sense" at the end of this post is both humorous and frightening. I do wish you would have ended it with a hardy "Yeeee Haaaawww!" though. Carry on.

[soonercruiser]

:) I knew you would pick up on my statement...

This place is hopping this morning...

And, she created 5 million jobs didn't she?
:rolleyes:

[AlboSooner]

What about in collisions?

Gasoline is not less flammable than NG. We make better gas tanks, and put them in low risk areas. Ford got in trouble years ago because they put the gas tanks in the rear end, causing the police cars to explode when they were rear-ended.

[JLEW1818]

I just started working in the oilfield industry... it's some pretty expensive stuff.

[Sooner5030]

I use gas, diesel, propane, NG and ethyl alcohol (denatured with gas) for a lot of different applications. I still like ethyl alcohol due to the ease of production at the micro (my) level. It's just hard to find the right tanks, fuel lines, and engine components that can handle the alcohol. Also, in smaller applications the alcohol can relieve you of the need to have a bulky and weighty water cooling system. on the other hand high proof alcohol will attract water from the atmosphere so store it properly.

Both propane and NG are stored under pressure so that adds to the volatility and safety aspect.

[Jammin']

Let's start harnessing the power of the ocean tide. I'm sure someone's working on it. Work faster.

[soonercoop1]

--- Yes that "dirty corrupt business" that produces the product you sell

:D

[soonercoop1]

I don't understand people being against nuclear because of the deal in Japan. If anything, it has increased my awareness on the fact it is pretty damn good. Explain yourselves doubters.

Against nuclear because we can't dispose of the waste safely yet...humans make mistakes and this is something you can't make a mistake with...

[Mongo]

I really have no problem with shallow off-shore wells. We proved last year that we are not ready to safely drill and maintain deep offshore wells.

way to show everyone how clueless you are on this. Why did it the spill happen? If you can say a product that has worked on many deep wells many times was bad on THIS well, and a company man and BP ignored it THIS time, then you wouldnt come across as ignorant

I would like a law passed that requires all oil drilled in US territory to stay in the US until all US oil requirements are satisfied. It does no good to drill in the US, send the oil elsewhere, and then be forced to purchase oil from the middle east.

So, the US sells its oil on the market for the going price/barrel, then buys oil for the same price? What's the difference? Does US oil taste better or make your car get an extra three miles a gallon? Makes no sense to me, just sounds like whining.

I like the pursuit of alternative fuels, including NG, BIO, Wind, Solar, etc. I especially like the idea of converting nearly all oil-based fuel to natural gas. I don't like his (Obama's) continued interest in nuclear energy. We all know what a disaster that can be, and I just saw on Nightline last evening what precarious shape that many of our nuclear facilities are in. When we can safely produce fusion nuclear energy maybe my attitude will change.

Burp

[okie52]

Against nuclear because we can't dispose of the waste safely yet...humans make mistakes and this is something you can't make a mistake with...

Sure we can Coop...it was called Yucca. Unfortunately Obama has chosen to continue onsite storage at our 104 reactor sites that will cost the country billions in damages starting I think next year when he closed YUcca.

Of course we could reduce our waste by another 80-90% by reprocessing...another measure Obama refused to do.

[StoopTroup]

I just started working in the oilfield industry... it's some pretty expensive stuff.

Really?

Working?

Wow. I didn't see that coming. :pop:

[texaspokieokie]

Really?

Working?

Wow. I didn't see that coming. :pop:

it's only "part-time".

his "full time" is posting on this board.

[Jammin']

harness. the. tides. beetches.

[The Profit]

Sure we can Coop...it was called Yucca. Unfortunately Obama has chosen to continue onsite storage at our 104 reactor sites that will cost the country billions in damages starting I think next year when he closed YUcca.

Of course we could reduce our waste by another 80-90% by reprocessing...another measure Obama refused to do.



You always forget one thing. The people of Nevada didn't want nuclear waste stored at Yucca. They never did. I thought republicans were for states' rights. As red as the Okie Dokie state is now, perhaps we can find a place near Edmond to store the nuclear waste. Or, how about the Grand Lake area. There seems to be plenty of room there. Maybe Mama Mia can find a place near Woodward.

No one wants nuclear waste in their backyard.

[Mongo]

uranium can be re-enriched to be used again.

I dont see the big deal with waste storage

[stoops the eternal pimp]

uranus is also enriched

[Mongo]

uranus is also enriched

they cant afford my going price of rich anus

[Mjcpr]

they cant afford my going price of rich anus

It does have tons of storage room, however.

[Mongo]

I am already losing my hair. might as well bank on it

[okie52]

You always forget one thing. The people of Nevada didn't want nuclear waste stored at Yucca. They never did. I thought republicans were for states' rights. As red as the Okie Dokie state is now, perhaps we can find a place near Edmond to store the nuclear waste. Or, how about the Grand Lake area. There seems to be plenty of room there. Maybe Mama Mia can find a place near Woodward.

No one wants nuclear waste in their backyard.

Everywhere there is a nuclear reactor there is nuclear waste being stored...104 locations right now to be exact. 20 plus states. That's a lot of backyards. And this isn't just storage for reactor waste. We have military nuclear waste that also has to be stored. And we are going to be paying damages in the billions for not having a waste repository as we were required to do. This was federal land that Yucca was located on, also, so states rights weren't involved. It was a very costly payoff to Reid for which this country will suffer.


2 years ago Chu advised congress that Obama was defunding Yucca. No explanation was given then nor has one been given in the following 2 years.
Of course, it would be hard for Chu to give one since he along with 9 other US science labs heads had written a letter supporting Yucca and nuclear energy just 8 months before he was killing Yucca. And the site was approved by the National Academy of Science stating that Yucca would be good for at least 10,000 years.

If you can find a geologic repository in OK that would be capable of storing nuke waste it would be fine with me. Of course, after years of study the scientists determined that Yucca was the best location and, as we know, Obama and the dems are a party of science.

Our scientific president is also aware that we could reduce our nuclear waste by 80-90% by reprocessing it...a process used by France and other countries that we invented. But, alas, the president doesn't want to do that either.

From Reagan through daddy Bush, Clinton, W and all of the congresses in between Yucca had been approved and funded to provide a geologic waste repository for our nuclear waste. 23 years in the making and one dumbass president from being a reality.