Draft Negs on Newton

[cccasooner2]

Under "negatives" for Newton, Nawrocki writes, "Very disingenuous — has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement that continually invites trouble and makes him believe he is above the law — does not command respect from teammates and will always struggle to win a locker room . . . Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness — is not punctual, seeks shortcuts and sets a bad example. Immature and has had issues with authority. Not dependable."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/PFW-Draft-Guide-rips-Newton-personally-8211-h?urn=nfl-wp657

Well deserved. :D <--- fake smile

[KantoSooner]

Some of that can be overlooked, for instance, in a WR.


Not in a QB.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Who tha f*ck cares? Cam won't slip outta tha Top 10. Don't remember how having a "fake smile" affected his game play.

[rekamrettuB]

A lot of that will come into play over the long term in a locker room. Take Moss, TO, and the type (that's who he reminds me of) and see how they deteriorate as people and contaminate a locker room over a period of time. When they catch on with a new team for a year or two everything is great. Then it inevitably goes south from there.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Buffalo will draft Cam Newton and that alone will be enough to send his career down the drain.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

There won't be an NFL season this year anyways so we have nothing to worry about! :D

[DarrellZero]

As long as my team doesn't draft him it's a plus. :D

[soonerboy_odanorth]

If I were an NFL GM I would stay as far away as possible from Vince Young Light.

Oh... he's a horse. No question he was a difference maker in the college game.

But in relation to what he could bring to the NFL, I don't believe he was measured as fast as VY (anyone have the combine numbers?), and frankly to my untrained eye he doesn't throw as well as VY.

That would be what they call "a problem" for someone trying to play QB in the NFL. JMO...

[badger]

I am having a tough time deciding whether Cam Cam will turn out to be Jamarky Purple Drank or Ryan Leafblower

On one hand, I think his college success will be far, FAR removed and distant from his pro career to the point that people will scream WTF when reminded that he was a first round selection.

On the other hand, S-E-C! S-E-C! decrees that a national title does not make for pro potential, no matter how ALL IN your fanbase is, because the lure of drugs is... um... alluring?

Maybe he'll be a Russell/Leaf combo.

[rekamrettuB]

If I were an NFL GM I would stay as far away as possible from Vince Young Light.

Oh... he's a horse. No question he was a difference maker in the college game.

But in relation to what he could bring to the NFL, I don't believe he was measured as fast as VY (anyone have the combine numbers?), and frankly to my untrained eye he doesn't throw as well as VY.

That would be what they call "a problem" for someone trying to play QB in the NFL. JMO...

I saw someone that threw tremendously better than Young. You might be right but I think this kid will be a much better NFL QB than Young...even tho that bar's pretty low.

[OUster]

I'm sorry, was that a draft blog, or a profile from Match.com? I am not a Cam fan, but...really? I heard Bradshaw was a real prick at times, but he seemed to do ok, I recall (not that Cam is destined for greatness).

[Booner]

That write-up sounds like he's talking about your typical politician.

[rekamrettuB]

Not sure how legit this is but it's worth the read:

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-auburn-players-claim-systematic-pay-to-play-29592


HBO Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel premieres an hour-long special on the business and ethics of college sports on Wednesday. The first airing is at 10p ET on HBO.



(Spoiler alert!)

I have obtained an advance copy of the show and have transcribed excerpts of a portion of the Andrea Kremer-hosted “Pay to Play” segment of the show below.

The segment contains explosive claims from former Auburn players Chaz Ramsey, Troy Reddick, Stanley McClover and Raven Gray.

•On McClover’s recruitment:
Kremer voiceover: “McLover said it wasn’t until he attended an all-star camp at Louisiana State University that he realized how the game is played. A game of money and influence.”

McClover: “Somebody came to me, I don’t even know this person and he was like, ‘we would love for you to come to LSU and he gave me a handshake and it had five hundred dollars in there. … that’s called a money handshake … I grabbed it and I’m like, ‘wow,’ hell I thought ten dollars was a lot of money back then. Five hundred dollars for doing nothing but what I was blessed to do. I was happy.”

Kremer to McClover: “What did you say to the guy when he hands you five hundred dollars?”

McClover: “Thank you and I’m seriously thinking about coming to LSU.”

Kremer voiceover: “But McClover says there were money handshakes from boosters at other football camps too. At Auburn for a couple hundred dollars and at Michigan State. All the schools denied any wrongdoing. And things really started heating up a few months later when he went to Ohio State for an official visit where schools get a chance for one weekend to host prospective athletes. McClover says there were money handshakes from alumni there too. About a thousand dollars. And something else to entice him.”

McClover: “They send girls my way. I partied. When I got there I met up with a couple guys from the team. We went to a party and they asked me to pick any girl I wanted.”

Kremer: “Did she offer sexual services?“
McClover: “Yes.”

Kremer: “Did you take them?”

McClover: “Yes.”

Kremer: “McClover committed to Ohio State right after that weekend. The recruiter at Ohio State who says he dealt with McClover that weekend denied the school was involved in any wrongdoing.”

•On what caused McClover to sign with Auburn over Ohio State:
Kremer voiceover: “McClover says what he asked for was money. A lot of it. And that he got it. Delivered in a bookbag, exact amount unknown.”

Kremer to McClover: “You opened it up, what are you thinking?”

McClover: “I almost passed out. I literally almost passed out I couldn’t believe it was true. I felt like I owed them.”

Kremer to McClover: “You felt obligated to them (Auburn)?”

McClover: “I felt totally obligated.”

Kremer to McClover: “Because of the money?”

McClover: “Yeah.”

•Troy Reddick talks about his recruitment by Auburn
Reddick: “I was contacted by a local alumni (of Auburn) and offered a large sum of money.

Kremer: “What are you thinking?”

Reddick: “That people are trying to take advantage of me. And I can’t give anybody any kind of power over me.”

Kremer voiceover: “He (Reddick) says he didn’t take the handout. …

•Reddick on why he was unhappy at Auburn - and the remedy for that unhappiness
Kremer voiceover: “Reddick was growing increasingly unhappy because he says the (Auburn) coaches wanted him to change his major. Why? Because his class schedule got in the way of football practice.”

Reddick: “I changed my major, so my classes didn’t interfere no more but I didn’t bother to go because I knew I was only there to play football.”

Kremer: “So what did you do?”

Reddick: “I started complaining and insinuating that I was ready to leave any day. They had to do something about that.”

Kremer voiceover: “The enticement to stay, Reddick says, became clear to him, when one of the coaches approached him after a team meeting.”

Reddick: “He (Auburn coach) said I got some mail for you up in my office.”

Kremer to Reddick: “Some mail for you?”

Reddick: “And I followed him up to his office and he gave me an envelope. I didn’t open there, I walked out to my truck, took off. … It was about 500 dollars.”

Kremer: “500 dollars in the envelope?”

Reddick: (nods yes)

Kremer: “How often did you get the money in the envelope?”

Reddick: “Over that season it happened like two or three more times. And it happened about six or seven times my senior year.”

Kremer: “So where do you think the money came from?”

Reddick: “I think that worry got back to alumni from my hometown. Or it may have been the coaches or the staff but everybody knew I didn’t want to be there.”

•On McClover being paid $4,000 for his performance in the Iron Bowl:
Kremer voiceover: “Stanley McClover says he was also paid while at school (Auburn). Paid by boosters. Like the time he had his eye on this 1973 Chevy Impala.”

McClover: “Private owner wanted seven thousand in cash so I went to my booster who I knew and he gave me the money the next day in a bookbag.”

Kremer voiceover: “McClover says eventually he didn’t have to ask for money, as long as he played well, he’d get paid.”

Kremer to McClover: “How much was a sack worth?”

McClover: “Anywhere between 300 and 400 dollars. For one.”

Kremer to McClover: “I think in one game you had four sacks, what did you earn in that game?”

McClover: “Four thousand. Against Alabama.”

Kremer: “Seriously?”

McClover: “Alabama, a rivalry game.”

Kremer: “More money because it’s Alabama?”

McClover: “Definitely. No other game matters.”

•Chaz Ramsey and Raven Gray are interviewed at same time together
Kremer voiceover: “Chaz Ramsey played for a year (for Auburn) in 2007, and says he too received money handshakes after games.”

Ramsey: “You walk out and all the fans are waiting for you to sign autographs and everything and some random guy just walks up to you and shakes your hand and there’s a wad full of money.”

Kremer: “How much are we talking about?”

Ramsey: “300 or 400 dollars a game.”

Kremer voiceover: “Raven Gray was a top (Auburn) recruit in 2007, he says people affiliated with Auburn would visit him at his junior college and press the flesh there too.”

Kremer to Gray: “How much do you think you got?”

Gray: “Twenty five-hundred to three thousand dollars. Loyalty is the key. This man give me money I’m going to be loyal to him and go to Auburn.”

Kremer voiceover: “And he did go to Auburn but got injured before he ever played a game.”

•On Ramsey’s motivation for coming forward
Kremer: “You have an axe to grind?” (Ramsey had a medical claim lawsuit against Auburn recently thrown out.)

Ramsey: “I’m not out to get anybody, I want high school athletes to know what they’re getting into. This is what college football is really about it, it’s a business.”

•Ramsey and Reddick on selling items made available to Auburn players by the school:
Ramsey: “I would sell tickets all the time, Iron Bowl you can make a thousand dollars a ticket.”

Kremer: “How much money did that get you during your time at Auburn?”

Ramsey: “Five-six thousand dollars probably.”

Reddick: “I sold my SEC Championship watch right off the stage as we were celebrating in Toomer’s Corner.”

Kremer: “Why did you sell it?”

Reddick: “Because it was useless to me. I had to sell all my championship rings to help my sister not go into debt as her house was about to be foreclosed on.”

I will have more on the HBO Real Sports special as I continue to screen the remainder of the show.

[Leroy Lizard]

Not sure how legit this is but it's worth the read:

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-auburn-players-claim-systematic-pay-to-play-29592

Whoa.

[rekamrettuB]

Whoa.

Uh...ya. Supposed to air tomorrow at 9CT. Got my DVR primed.

[Quik Sand]

I am having a tough time deciding whether Cam Cam will turn out to be Jamarky Purple Drank or Ryan LeafblowerLOL

[Leroy Lizard]

Any meltdowns out there?

[OhU1]

Cam has a fake smile, is posing for the camera. Has bad character and is basically a sociopath. So what! We're paying this man to throw and run an oblong ball while we sit back on our couch and enjoy a brew. We're not vetting this man for President, or even as a mortgage broker at a small town bank.

This is isn't rocket science. Cam wins, Cam is the man. Period. (and I bet he scores over a 10 on his Wonderlic!)

[SoonerDan74012]

Not sure how legit this is but it's worth the read:

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-auburn-players-claim-systematic-pay-to-play-29592

I already have a thread up about this including some more juicy info.

[ashley]

If I were an NFL GM I would stay as far away as possible from Vince Young Light.

Oh... he's a horse. No question he was a difference maker in the college game.

But in relation to what he could bring to the NFL, I don't believe he was measured as fast as VY (anyone have the combine numbers?), and frankly to my untrained eye he doesn't throw as well as VY.

That would be what they call "a problem" for someone trying to play QB in the NFL. JMO...

I coached QB's for 38 yrs and I think he throws much better than VY. The other stuff, I am not sure of. His coaches at Blinn say he is a great kid, worked hard, and everyone on campus loved him. Also, they say he was a great leader and teammate and the best competitor they ever saw. Just saying.
Does he have red flage? Lots.
I will add this. In QB's, I like decision making off the field a hell of a lot. No drama. I also like a good to very good IQ. It does make a difference.

[BoulderSooner79]

•Reddick on why he was unhappy at Auburn - and the remedy for that unhappiness
Kremer voiceover: “Reddick was growing increasingly unhappy because he says the (Auburn) coaches wanted him to change his major. Why? Because his class schedule got in the way of football practice.”

This harkens back to that dead horse thread about our coaches getting a slap on the wrist for abusing the "voluntary" workout rule. If there were no rules limiting the hours/week that coaches have the players, the only limit left would be the academic requirement to pass 12 hours. To skirt that rule, the situation above would become the norm - players would be told what classes they could take and I doubt it would lead to many physics degrees.

[Leroy Lizard]

This harkens back to that dead horse thread about our coaches getting a slap on the wrist for abusing the "voluntary" workout rule. If there were no rules limiting the hours/week that coaches have the players, the only limit left would be the academic requirement to pass 12 hours. To skirt that rule, the situation above would become the norm - players would be told what classes they could take and I doubt it would lead to many physics degrees.

One complaint of Robert Smith at tOSU is that the coaches wouldn't let him pursue a rigorous degree.

[StoopTroup]

First of all.....he's not a Sooner which automatically gets me in an IDGAS mood and 2nd of all.....whatever these idiots are doing right now is hilarious as it's unclear if there will even be a Season right now. If there is any delay that screws up fantasy drafts....IMO....the only Games I'll watch will be ones with Sooners in them and other than that....the entire NFL can cram it up their *** for not working it all out.