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sooner59
3/15/2011, 11:59 PM
All signs point to Donald Trump running for the GOP ticket. What are your opinions on him if any. Basically a joke to me, but whatever. Anybody take him seriously as a candidate?

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 12:11 AM
He has a lot of work before he can convince people to even be as viable as Ross Perot was IMO

OklahomaTuba
3/16/2011, 12:13 AM
It's sad how much of an upgrade Trump would be over the current disaster-in-chief.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 12:15 AM
It's sad how much of an upgrade Trump would be over the current disaster-in-chief.

I'd trust Trump more that's for sure. I can't tell where Obama is going. I can't tell where the Pubs are going either.

I think I saw a shade of him practicing his teleprompter skills tonight at the end of that roast..

Soonerus
3/16/2011, 12:16 AM
Joke...

OklahomaTuba
3/16/2011, 12:17 AM
Monorail!

OklahomaTuba
3/16/2011, 12:20 AM
I'd trust Trump more that's for sure. I can't tell where Obama is going. I can't tell where the Pubs are going either.

I think I saw a shade of him practicing his teleprompter skills tonight at the end of that roast..Did he speak to America & Japan's UNSHAKABLE bond again?

Damn teleprompter...

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 12:31 AM
Did he speak to America & Japan's UNSHAKABLE bond again?

Damn teleprompter...

I don't know Tuba. I really don't break him down like you guys do by trying to chop him down at the knees for every Bullet point you don't like.

I don't even go off campaign promises. I guess it's just a general feeling of him being reactionary as every thing is set before him and what I see of his reactions is to sit and wait as he doesn't want to make a mistake and he knows the pubs aren't with him so he's just not going to lead until Pubs are begging him and then it could either be to late or very costly. Sometimes I just think you have to decide to take chances and shoot from the hip and I think he's not gonna do that unless he gets a 2nd term.

It would just be easier if he tries to ride it out to see if he can get re-elected and if not...he won't have soiled his role as America's First Black President. He'll just say he didn't realize there was still so much hatred towards minorities and then send us back a 100 years in race relations.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 12:45 AM
I It would just be easier if he tries to ride it out to see if he can get re-elected and if not...he won't have soiled HIS ROLE AS AMERICA'S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. He'll just say he didn't realize there was still so much hatred towards minorities and then send us back a 100 years in race relations.It's way beyond sad that some folks view opposing socialism and authoritarianism as racist. That sets us back in some weird direction.

sooner59
3/16/2011, 12:59 AM
Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc. would all have been condemned as socialism if they were just introduced today. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a socialist country, but there is some leeway in there somewhere.

GKeeper316
3/16/2011, 01:17 AM
trump couldn't even keep a casino solvent, and all you gotta do with those things is open the damn doors.

OUthunder
3/16/2011, 06:01 AM
He can't be any worse than the guy in the white house now.

Partial Qualifier
3/16/2011, 06:44 AM
It's sad how much of an upgrade Trump would be over the current disaster-in-chief.


He can't be any worse than the guy in the white house now.

Now where are all the Obama supporters when things like this are said??

I mean they would literally come out of the woodwork to his defense up until about 6 months into his term. Now they've all disappeared. What happened??? What changed?

Partial Qualifier
3/16/2011, 06:45 AM
...not even a little jab at Boosh?

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 07:38 AM
Trump is excruciatingly more qualified than the current POTUS. Doesn't mean he'd be a good one, just more qualified to be one.

picasso
3/16/2011, 08:00 AM
He has a lot of work before he can convince people to even be as viable as Ross Perot was IMO

Viable? Perot was a joke.

Trump's a doosh but he's a sharp business guy and not a career politician. Not exactly a bad thing.
Mike Savage has had him on his show. Interesting.

Midtowner
3/16/2011, 08:14 AM
Trump is excruciatingly more qualified than the current POTUS. Doesn't mean he'd be a good one, just more qualified to be one.

The current POTUS has experience being the POTUS.

Does experience at the actual job not count for anything? Trump hasn't even been in politics. With his massive ego, he'd be eaten alive.

OUthunder
3/16/2011, 08:16 AM
The current POTUS has experience being the POTUS.

Does experience at the actual job not count for anything? Trump hasn't even been in politics. With his massive ego, he'd be eaten alive.

And Obama has no ego.....RIIIIIIGHT!

OutlandTrophy
3/16/2011, 08:28 AM
Trump was born on 3rd base and has convinced everyone that he hit a triple.

He's great at marketing his name, that's about it though.

pphilfran
3/16/2011, 08:46 AM
HE ain't got a prayer...

JohnnyMack
3/16/2011, 08:50 AM
I'm voting for Xenu.

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 08:51 AM
I don't believe in Xenu.

Aldebaran
3/16/2011, 08:51 AM
He'll save America.

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 08:54 AM
I thought Xenu was a bitch?

Mississippi Sooner
3/16/2011, 08:56 AM
Trump was born on 3rd base and has convinced everyone that he hit a triple.

He's great at marketing his name, that's about it though.

A lot of truth to that. On his running for president, I think he's no more or less viable than other filthy rich semi-celebrities of the recent past, such as Perot and Forbes.

What a lot of people might not realize is that he made a name for himself by competing against famously slow moving entities such as the Port Authority, the City of New York and the entrenched old guard of Tri-State developers. He'd take over these projects that had been languishing forever, get them completed in a timely, but by no means extraordinarily fast manner, and then crow to the world how he was the guy who could get things done. Eventually, he became the man with the golden touch because he got enough people to believe him.

Don't know if he'd be given time to pull off that trick as president.

My Opinion Matters
3/16/2011, 09:06 AM
People are actually taking this seriously? Kim Kardashian for president. How about that?

pphilfran
3/16/2011, 09:15 AM
People are actually taking this seriously? Kim Kardashian for president. How about that?

I'd punch her hanging chad...

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 09:20 AM
People are actually taking this seriously? Kim Kardashian for president. How about that?

Why not? We voted in a caramel mooslum. May as well vote in a bad-combover megalomaniac.

pphilfran
3/16/2011, 09:23 AM
Why not? We voted in a caramel mooslum. May as well vote in a bad-combover megalomaniac.

:D

Position Limit
3/16/2011, 09:53 AM
trump is a two bit businessman and a shameless self promoter. where would he be without daddy and a rich first wife? still doing pizza hut commercials...

CrimsonCream
3/16/2011, 10:17 AM
It's sad how much of an upgrade Trump would be over the current disaster-in-chief.

I was thinking the same thing.

It is sad.

The Maestro
3/16/2011, 10:31 AM
If anyone who voted to have Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from running this country has a problem with Donald Trump as the POTUS I would like an explanation of that mindset.

I am not so much in favor of Trump himself...as I am someone who is outside of politics taking a crack at it. Paranoid Americans would probably never vote for someone who was not somewhat of a career politician, but it would be nice to see that whole "by the people, for the people" thing in place.

texaspokieokie
3/16/2011, 10:38 AM
Trump has good taste in wives.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 12:26 PM
The current POTUS has experience being the POTUS.

Does experience at the actual job not count for anything? Trump hasn't even been in politics. With his massive ego, he'd be eaten alive.Must you call what the current POTUS is doing to our wonderful country "experience"? I would gladly vote for anyone who opposes him.

diegosooner
3/16/2011, 12:58 PM
If he becomes Gov of NY first, then he might be given more serious consideration.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 01:04 PM
It's way beyond sad that some folks view opposing socialism and authoritarianism as racist. That sets us back in some weird direction.

I don't disagree except that I know for a fact that some of my own distant Family who have my email address send me some pretty racist stuff that I know came from a man who in his later years before his death renounced treating Non-White people with hatred. That said....they still do it even though he had found we could eventually get along on this Earth together.

I don't disagree with anyone on fighting Total Socialism and Total Authoritarianism but if you look around our dear Country...we are a group of people with very diverse upbringings and many people in this Country's Families have pasts that may go back as far as before the Country becoming the United States of America. We at this point have socialist and authoritarianism traits all over our fair Country and they didn't just happen....they happened as we grew into the Superpower that we are today.

Saying Obama is all of these nasty bitter and really ****ty things when he is as much a product of our society as any one who was born in the US is today is misleading IMO and serves to make many people feel that you are racist. Being a racist is as much a problem for you as it is for Obama to not appear like he's trying to make White People slaves so Blacks can just sit around watching us work and make them comfortable.

We were once Worthy of having the word United as our proud Moniker....these days...I am beginning to see us turning towards The Bunch of States of America. United seems to be slipping away. Once it's gone...we are no better than the rest of the World fighting against each other to contain our borders.

Argue and call names, drop innuendos, cut and paste snippets from blogs all you want....but your way of thinking should probably go the way of the dinosaur as much as Socialism or Authoritarianism IMO.

I've got no answers other than I think we should remind ourselves of what made us great and try each day to elect and support people who believe like we do. I haven't seen to many people like that in a long long time. I see an overwhelming amount of people who would never sacrifice a penny to help their fellowman more and more.

Weird can be scary. I hope you learn to live with it instead of rise up against it. Weird ain't going away anytime soon as far as I can tell.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 01:09 PM
Why not? We voted in a caramel mooslum. May as well vote in a bad-combover megalomaniac.

No doubt. I think folks are about to the point that they'd put a powerful rich white guy like Trump in power than someone who silently screws each of us in our sleep. You know what your getting with Trump.

He'd probably gridlock the lot of Congress until he got them to really start solving problems. Some would probably have a Survivor Show type breakdown and have to extinguish their flame before getting booted off the island....lol

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 02:11 PM
No doubt. I think folks are about to the point that they'd put a powerful rich white guy like Trump in power than someone who silently screws each of us in our sleep. You know what your getting with Trump.

He'd probably gridlock the lot of Congress until he got them to really start solving problems. Some would probably have a Survivor Show type breakdown and have to extinguish their flame before getting booted off the island....lol

"Nancy Pelosi, you're fired."

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 02:24 PM
"Nancy Pelosi, you're fired."

I can't find my G5....what the hell? :D

LMAO....good one Deano

soonercruiser
3/16/2011, 02:43 PM
If Trump got elected, and he got "that call at 3:00 A.M."....
would he be able to find his hair?
:P

C&CDean
3/16/2011, 02:45 PM
Sure. It's laying over his ear and all down his neck. He just has to flip it over into place.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 02:49 PM
I think he should shave his head....he looked like he's the kind of POTUS that would put laser beams on sharks and take over the World. You know...for our own good....lol

http://www.tvgasm.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-bald.jpg

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/20110-dr_evil.jpg

Ike
3/16/2011, 03:03 PM
Palin/Trump 2012!


Every comedians wet dream...

OULenexaman
3/16/2011, 03:06 PM
I think this will be damn interesting...

AlboSooner
3/16/2011, 03:08 PM
He would never win, because we don't need another a guy who takes out huge loans, doesn't pay them, files for bankruptcy, and then takes out more loans and acts as if he is some business mastermind. I always chuckle when people ask him for financial advice.

jkjsooner
3/16/2011, 03:11 PM
I think we can do better than someone who essentially squandered his dad's fortunes.

Trump has two things going for him.

1. He is great a marketing himself as some type of financial real estate guru.

2. He's great at structuring deals which allow him to profit in the best case and walk without loss in the worst case. He's able to do this because of #1. For some reason, people are convinced that whatever he touches turns to gold even though his track record (for his investors not himself) is the exact opposite.

I frankly think Trump would be the worst case scenario for POTUS. The last thing we need is someone with a track record of enriching himself at the expense of others.

Personally, I think it's just a marketing play as is everything Trump does.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 03:11 PM
He would never win, because we don't need another a guy who takes out huge loans, doesn't pay them, files for bankruptcy, and then takes out more loans and acts as if he is some business mastermind. I always chuckle when people ask him for financial advice.

Actually...I don't think that has been tried yet.....lol

jkjsooner
3/16/2011, 03:25 PM
Seriously, how many times has trump declared bankruptcy? I mean bankruptcy where he is personally liable? I'm pretty sure that's where O'Donnel got into trouble and threatened with liable because most of Trump's bankruptcies protected him personally.

The problem is, many of those things that have Trump's name on them, either he is only selling his name or he's structured the relationship so that he has no personal liability.

I remember a few years ago a couple of Trump's condo towers went bankrupt. The owners talked about buying into Trump's idea because he was such a financial genuis and they were upset to lose their hundred thousand dollar deposits? Seriously? You thought Trump was an icon of stability and trust? What freakin' planet do you live on?

I wouldn't touch anything that had Trump's name on it with a hundred foot pole because I know he's just smart enough to transfer all risk to me.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 03:37 PM
He would never win, because we don't need another a guy who takes out huge loans, doesn't pay them, files for bankruptcy, and then takes out more loans and acts as if he is some business mastermind. I always chuckle when people ask him for financial advice.Sounds like our current POTUS, except for the filing for bankruptcy part. If he filed the USA for bankruptcy, our bank(China) would call the loans, and we would ALL be going RUT-ROOOOH!

AlboSooner
3/16/2011, 03:42 PM
Sounds like our current POTUS, except for the filing for bankruptcy part. If he filed the USA for bankruptcy, our bank(China) would call the loans, and we would ALL be going RUT-ROOOOH!

Sure. Sounds like Bush too.

OutlandTrophy
3/16/2011, 03:48 PM
because Bush is currently the POTUS?

AlboSooner
3/16/2011, 03:54 PM
because Bush is currently the POTUS?

No. Bush borrowed a bunch of money, and passed the debt to the next guy. The current guy will do the same, until there is some kind of economic resurgence from the private factor which with the right president will bring down the debt. Are you denying that Bush was a big spender?

Sooner5030
3/16/2011, 03:54 PM
I haven't decided on my next write-in.

I'm thinking either Jack Welch or maybe Robert Gates.

I'm not sure that anyone groomed by the Ds/Rs and who has decided to run for the POTUS is actually qualified. Most folks you'd want to run the executive are the types that'd take one look at that job and the election and turn it down.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 05:13 PM
No. Bush borrowed a bunch of money, and passed the debt to the next guy. The current guy will do the same, until there is some kind of economic resurgence from the private factor which with the right president will bring down the debt. Are you denying that Bush was a big spender?

Got some news. The private sector is being destroyed. What's left of it won't take risks and make any investments til there's a new, pro-capitalism direction in govt.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 05:15 PM
Got some news. The private sector is being destroyed. What's left of it won't take risks and make any investments til there's a new, pro-capitalism direction in govt.

Well....no where but up for Obama.

Thankfully he's survived the Bush Administrations Poison Pills.

StoopTroup
3/16/2011, 05:17 PM
No. Bush borrowed a bunch of money, and passed the debt to the next guy. The current guy will do the same, until there is some kind of economic resurgence from the private factor which with the right president will bring down the debt. Are you denying that Bush was a big spender?

LMAO....

I'm not sure I can find a pic of monkeys flying out of an ***....

let us know when you find one that decides to let Fox know when he's ready to go.....

OUthunder
3/16/2011, 05:30 PM
He would never win, because we don't need another a guy who takes out huge loans, doesn't pay them, files for bankruptcy, and then takes out more loans and acts as if he is some business mastermind. I always chuckle when people ask him for financial advice.

OUCH

TRUE

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 05:43 PM
Well....no where but up for Obama.

Thankfully he's survived the Bush Administrations Poison Pills.You realize this makes any sense at all only if Obama totally changes his MO?

picasso
3/16/2011, 07:43 PM
No. Bush borrowed a bunch of money, and passed the debt to the next guy. The current guy will do the same, until there is some kind of economic resurgence from the private factor which with the right president will bring down the debt. Are you denying that Bush was a big spender?

No. The current guy has gone above and beyond anyone else in history.

picasso
3/16/2011, 07:48 PM
I'm in no way a Savage or Trump follower but I caught this on the radio live and it's the only time I've heard Trump talk politics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGfFwl9WWdg

MR2-Sooner86
3/16/2011, 07:50 PM
No and he won't make it.

Leroy Lizard
3/16/2011, 08:05 PM
I can't stand him.

I'd vote for him, but I would vote in disgust.

soonercruiser
3/16/2011, 09:40 PM
No. Bush borrowed a bunch of money, and passed the debt to the next guy. The current guy will do the same, until there is some kind of economic resurgence from the private factor which with the right president will bring down the debt. Are you denying that Bush was a big spender?

And Obama and the Demoncrats said...."let there be more debt! And on the 8th day....the debt tripled!"
Business Exodus 10:15!
:D

MamaMia
3/16/2011, 10:06 PM
Trump would just fire everybody. Then what do we do?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/16/2011, 10:37 PM
Trump would just fire everybody. Then what do we do?With all new people, will we be a new country?

Eielson
3/17/2011, 01:10 AM
http://images.cloud.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0409/23/1_9a6d35e34e6f913bd783c0fa9266c258.jpg

AlboSooner
3/17/2011, 12:00 PM
And Obama and the Demoncrats said...."let there be more debt! And on the 8th day....the debt tripled!"
Business Exodus 10:15!
:D

I agree that Obama is a big spender, but all presidents tend to spend. Many on here justify their own and criticize blindly the other side while ignoring the facts. Even the monkeys who live to post on here, can't deny the fact that Bush was a big spender, who accumulated 3/4 of our current debt. Memory that extends more than two years in the past is vital.

OklahomaTuba
3/17/2011, 12:30 PM
I agree that Obama is a big spender, but all presidents tend to spend.Ha! This is like saying Charlie Sheen is a little nuts, but everyone is a little nuts sometimes.

Sorry, but President Present is the biggest. spender. in. history.

It's seems to be the only thing he knows how to do. Spend.

And he's bought us all record debt, record unemployment, record poverty, record foodstamp usage, record home foreclosures, and the impending loss of reserve currency status. What a historic presidency!!!!

If someone serious challenges The One Termer (Chris Christie?), it will probably be a historic landslide at this point.

StoopTroup
3/17/2011, 12:34 PM
Ha! This is like saying Charlie Sheen is a little nuts, but everyone is a little nuts sometimes.

Sorry, but President Present is the biggest. spender. in. history.

It's seems to be the only thing he knows how to do. Spend.

And he's bought us all record debt, record unemployment, record poverty, record foodstamp usage, record home foreclosures, and the impending loss of reserve currency status. What a historic presidency!!!!

If someone serious challenges The One Termer (Chris Christie?), it will probably be a historic landslide at this point.

I'll agree with you for once.

If he's re-elected and things continue for 5 more years...your assessment is probably on the mark but if the Pubs don't come around with someone that isn't going to Scott Walker the Country.....I just don't think the alternative is much prettier.

OULenexaman
3/17/2011, 12:35 PM
you under estimate the bloodskulls...probably not a landslide.

C&CDean
3/17/2011, 12:36 PM
He was spending a bunch today.

I was out on my lunchtime constitutional and was walking over by the Capitol and Union Station. Once again, literally hundreds, and maybe even thousands of policemen, cars, motorcycles, helecopters, vans, swat trucks, bomb dogs, snipers everywhere as far as the eye could see. I'll have to check the news tonight to see where he was going out to lunch today.

OklahomaTuba
3/17/2011, 12:36 PM
I'm shocked. You agree? Wow, he must be really pissing some people off right now.

We just need a leader right now, not someone who is off playing 80 rounds of golf, jetting to rio, or having 2 day symposiums on bullying while the middle east is blowing up, oil is around $100/pb and Japan is on the brink of chaos. Not to mention the ongoing economic problems and the war.

sappstuf
3/17/2011, 12:39 PM
I agree that Obama is a big spender, but all presidents tend to spend. Many on here justify their own and criticize blindly the other side while ignoring the facts. Even the monkeys who live to post on here, can't deny the fact that Bush was a big spender, who accumulated 3/4 of our current debt. Memory that extends more than two years in the past is vital.

All presidents may spend, but you cannot call Obama a big spender.. He is a gigantic spender. A massive spender.

His February 2011 deficit was bigger than Bush's entire 2007 deficit. They are not in the same category of spending. Maybe this graph will help you understand.

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/obama-deficit-2011.jpg

OULenexaman
3/17/2011, 12:42 PM
anymore questions???

AlboSooner
3/17/2011, 12:42 PM
I had to google Chris Christie. I don't know if anything good has come out of Jersey since Al Eschback :D

Sheen uses a lot of war lingo, you're either with sheen or the trolls, bring it on, let's go, rah rah rah, I'm warlock..reminds me of a certain person who tried really hard not to go to Vietnam.


All presidents may spend, but you cannot call Obama a big spender.. He is a gigantic spender. A massive spender

Ok, we have made progress. We can't deny that Bush was a big spender, and that Obama is a big spender. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that the graph is correct, but somebody could say that inherited policies from the Bush era aided to that huge debt. This doesn't mean that it relieves him from the responsibility of being a big spender. Does your graph show that only Billy C had a surplus in the last 20 years?

OklahomaTuba
3/17/2011, 12:47 PM
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/obama-deficit-2011.jpg

Yeah, but, but, but, BOOSH!!!!!!!

I'm guessing this is what Hope and Change looks like in chart form?

And we wonder why our t-bills are being dumped. Obumblefuc has literally bankrupted the country. It's a good time to be a Chi Com, and a petro-dictator, it seems.

It's gonna take WW3 to dig us out of the hole Barry just dug.

StoopTroup
3/17/2011, 12:54 PM
I'm shocked. You agree? Wow, he must be really pissing some people off right now.

We just need a leader right now, not someone who is off playing 80 rounds of golf, jetting to rio, or having 2 day symposiums on bullying while the middle east is blowing up, oil is around $100/pb and Japan is on the brink of chaos. Not to mention the ongoing economic problems and the war.

Again...we agree. Barry seems to be blowing it. I haven't seen him stand up and really act like "He's got this!". He continues to "Explore the possibilities and assure us that they are working on it instead of remind folks what he has done so far.

I know he's also shy from saying what he's gonna do as every time he says "The Japanese like Water" someone thinks he's going Gilbert Godfried....lol

I mean....he has responded pretty quick considering how long it takes to move ships into the areas they can help Japan.

I think it would be cool to see the Ex-Presidents talk about what all is going on too. We could all use some re-assurance I think right now. GW, Bill and Jimmeh seem to be laying low. I think it's time we hear from them.

sappstuf
3/17/2011, 01:06 PM
Yeah, but, but, but, BOOSH!!!!!!!

I'm guessing this is what Hope and Change looks like in chart form?

And we wonder why our t-bills are being dumped. Obumblefuc has literally bankrupted the country. It's a good time to be a Chi Com, and a petro-dictator, it seems.

It's gonna take WW3 to dig us out of the hole Barry just dug.

VaneIggG4iw

StoopTroup
3/17/2011, 01:13 PM
Yeah, but, but, but, BOOSH!!!!!!!

I'm guessing this is what Hope and Change looks like in chart form?

And we wonder why our t-bills are being dumped. Obumblefuc has literally bankrupted the country. It's a good time to be a Chi Com, and a petro-dictator, it seems.

It's gonna take WW3 to dig us out of the hole Barry just dug.

I'm ready for WW3 but I need to know how much it's paying as I'm to old to join the Military.

Dear Blackwater....

I am available. Please send me a price list on what you pay for the following areas of expertise.....

http://frontiereditor.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/oh-blackwater-keep-on-firing.jpg

http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/27/img_2294.jpg

Sign me the **** up. I'm ready to ROCK!

Unless you are gonna have a Draft....then contact Homey. He's as close to anyone I know qualified to get it going.

soonercruiser
3/17/2011, 02:11 PM
I had to google Chris Christie. I don't know if anything good has come out of Jersey since Al Eschback :D

Sheen uses a lot of war lingo, you're either with sheen or the trolls, bring it on, let's go, rah rah rah, I'm warlock..reminds me of a certain person who tried really hard not to go to Vietnam.



Ok, we have made progress. We can't deny that Bush was a big spender, and that Obama is a big spender. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that the graph is correct, but somebody could say that inherited policies from the Bush era aided to that huge debt. This doesn't mean that it relieves him from the responsibility of being a big spender. Does your graph show that only Billy C had a surplus in the last 20 years?

We've been over this territory before....:rolleyes:
Who gets credit for the boom Clinton years??
Reagan for the capital gains that allowed all the technology investing?
The Repug Congress that brought Clinton to the table screaming "Please, not the balanced budget"???

The economy was in decline for the last 2 quarters under Clinton!
That is what he handed off to Booooosh, before...
9-11 happened under Boooosh; airlines and economy pummelled!
We can always make up excuses why.....
Clinton was a dirt bag! Probably your dirt bag, though.
:rolleyes:

StoopTroup
3/17/2011, 02:22 PM
Who gets credit for the boom Clinton years??


The American People for reacting to the opportunities that were in front of them? Maybe it was just blind luck? Not spending money building a nation in the middle east? Just Clinton taking it easy smoking a cigar and getting a hummer after a few slices of pizza?

pphilfran
3/17/2011, 02:45 PM
The American People for reacting to the opportunities that were in front of them? Maybe it was just blind luck? Not spending money building a nation in the middle east? Just Clinton taking it easy smoking a cigar and getting a hummer after a few slices of pizza?

Increased cap gains revenue from a booming stock market...

StoopTroup
3/17/2011, 02:45 PM
Increased cap gains revenue from a booming stock market...

Hey....that's a good one.....lol

soonercruiser
3/17/2011, 08:56 PM
The American People for reacting to the opportunities that were in front of them? Maybe it was just blind luck? Not spending money building a nation in the middle east? Just Clinton taking it easy smoking a cigar and getting a hummer after a few slices of pizza?

"The American People"!
Yup! That's who needs to get a real stimulus.