NPR looking for a new CEO...

[Turd_Ferguson]

anybody interested?

:pop:

[SoCaliSooner]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/files/2010/11/Olbermann_11.5.jpg

[TUSooner]

NPR gets a bad rap on the SO, probably because most posters don't actually listen to NPR but only parrot the opinion of NPR that Rush-Beck-Fox tells them to have. NPR news gets the facts straight, and presents them in an intelligent way. I don't say they are perfectly objective, that might be impossible anyway. But NPR is certainly more objective and vastly more thoughful than, say, Fox News. Assuming that NPR is to the left of center, they generally show more respect when reporting the right's viewpoint that Fox does when mocking the left. That said, I'm not too crazy about some other NPR shows.

[DIB]

Wait, Wait...Don't Tell Me is the bomb, yo!

[TUSooner]

I do like the Bolshevik propaganda of Car Talk!

[SoonerProphet]

The McLaughlin Group is a fantastic program. Besides that, 91.7 here in the metro is the best radio station going on the airwaves.

[SCOUT]

NPR gets a bad rap on the SO, probably because most posters don't actually listen to NPR but only parrot the opinion of NPR that Rush-Beck-Fox tells them to have. NPR news gets the facts straight, and presents them in an intelligent way. I don't say they are perfectly objective, that might be impossible anyway. But NPR is certainly more objective and vastly more thoughful than, say, Fox News. Assuming that NPR is to the left of center, they generally show more respect when reporting the right's viewpoint that Fox does when mocking the left. That said, I'm not too crazy about some other NPR shows.

I am not sure Ron Schiller would agree with you. I don't listen to NPR so I don't have any idea how they present things. I just happened to read an article today where Ron got caught explaining how Republicans were anti-intellectual and racist.

[SoonerProphet]

I am not sure Ron Schiller would agree with you. I don't listen to NPR so I don't have any idea how they present things. I just happened to read an article today where Ron got caught explaining how Republicans were anti-intellectual and racist.

Cause that dip**** represents the entire opinion of NPR.

[TUSooner]

I am not sure Ron Schiller would agree with you. I don't listen to NPR so I don't have any idea how they present things. I just happened to read an article today where Ron got caught explaining how Republicans were anti-intellectual and racist.

Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle... I wonder if THAT'S WHY HE GOT FIRED ?!!? :rolleyes:

Beside, Republicans ARE anti-intellectual, if you go by some of the posters around here! ;) :D

Which reminds me: These so-called stings where somebdy tells lies to bait a person into revealing his "true" thoughts in an unattractive way are pretty dodgy in my book. Somebody did that to Gov. Walker recently, and now this. I don't think I like that kind of "journalism."

[cccasooner2]

I gave up on NPR with 24/7 coverage of Watergate. Surely there was another important event that could have gotten 1 minute of coverage. No such luck.

[TUSooner]

I gave up on NPR with 24/7 coverage of Watergate. Surely there was another important event that could have gotten 1 minute of coverage. No such luck.

That's a valid criticism of almost all news media, especially TV & Radio. As my sig used to say, "One dog barks at nothing; the rest bark at him."

But wait, Watergate wasn't worth covering ?!

[47straight]

"All things considered" my ***.

[C&CDean]

If I was the CEO of NPR it'd be blues/jazz 24/7. **** all the political bull****. Their music is the only reason they're still on the air. Everybody knows that nobody listens to liberal radio. Right Franken?

[soonercruiser]

And....we ALL know how much Dean likes political talk.
:D

[SCOUT]

Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle... I wonder if THAT'S WHY HE GOT FIRED ?!!? :rolleyes:

Beside, Republicans ARE anti-intellectual, if you go by some of the posters around here! ;) :D

Which reminds me: These so-called stings where somebdy tells lies to bait a person into revealing his "true" thoughts in an unattractive way are pretty dodgy in my book. Somebody did that to Gov. Walker recently, and now this. I don't think I like that kind of "journalism."

He isn't the CEO Rocky. :rolleyes:

[Scott D]

I'd put American Idol on there 24/7 so it could get the **** off my television.

[StoopTroup]

I'd put American Idol on there 24/7 so it could get the **** off my television.

Funny how you seem more upset about NPR than you are LOGO on your TV.

NTTAWWT :D

[Scott D]

as long as Logo shows Bound I'm obligated to have no problem with it on my TV :D

[soonerhubs]

I consider myself conservative, and I love NPR. I listen to it daily on the drive to and from work, and I stream it in my office.

I actually find it to be the most balanced of the radio news options. Morning Edition, Talk of The Nation, The World, and All Things Considered are all very insightful programs.

On the weekends, I'm a huge fan of This American Life, Wait, Wait..., and Car Talk.

[soonerhubs]

Oh, and I'm not interested in being the CEO. :D

[picasso]

NPR gets a bad rap on the SO, probably because most posters don't actually listen to NPR but only parrot the opinion of NPR that Rush-Beck-Fox tells them to have. NPR news gets the facts straight, and presents them in an intelligent way. I don't say they are perfectly objective, that might be impossible anyway. But NPR is certainly more objective and vastly more thoughful than, say, Fox News. Assuming that NPR is to the left of center, they generally show more respect when reporting the right's viewpoint that Fox does when mocking the left. That said, I'm not too crazy about some other NPR shows.

We don't pay for Fox News. That's the thing bro.

[VeeJay]

I usually listen to Bill Bennett "Morning in America" on the drive in to work. Tomorrow, it's NPR. I just want to hear what is being said. I am guessing they will be ratcheting up the anti-conservative hysteria over the next few days.

On another issue, there was an online article from ABC news on NPR. The feds (that's you an me for those who earn a paycheck) kick in $450 million a year to prop them up. Same article says the fed donation is but 2% of their budget. If my math is correct, that's an annual operating budget of $22.5 BILLION.

That's a lot of coin for so few listeners. Jesus!

[Sooner5030]

On another issue, there was an online article from ABC news on NPR. The feds (that's you an me for those who earn a paycheck) kick in $450 million a year to prop them up. Same article says the fed donation is but 2% of their budget. If my math is correct, that's an annual operating budget of $22.5 BILLION.

2% directly to NPR but $450 million separately to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.....which provides money to the stations which carry NPR. Two different pots of $.

[TUSooner]

We don't pay for Fox News. That's the thing bro.

If Fox News costs nothing, I say it's worth every penny.

[TUSooner]

He isn't the CEO Rocky. :rolleyes:

oh. :O

I don't think he runs the show either.

[soonerhubs]

We don't pay for Fox News. That's the thing bro.

Let's see... cable bills, commercial advertising, and an extremely skewed and visceral perspective of the news aligned with the commercial interests of Rupert Murdock.

Yep, I'd say those that watch that network DO pay dearly.

[StoopTroup]

If you listen to facts....you are a Commie liberal Socialist Fascist Pig who will someday disguise yourself as a Ultra Consevative Flag Pin wearin' God Fearing version of perfection that suddenly is speaking to all of your peers about how sorry you are for getting caught in a all male review in New Orleans and why it's imperitive that even though you are leaving your Wife for a fellow who makes you happy....you still understand the plague of why how listening to the facts ruined all of our lives.

This doesn't happen to them all as the facts don't support that.....lol

[47straight]

Is listening to the pompous sounding *******s under the delusion that their political viewpoints are balanced on NPR what makes so many people I know pompous sounding *******s that think their political viewpoints are balanced?

[Turd_Ferguson]

Is listening to the pompous sounding *******s under the delusion that their political viewpoints are balanced on NPR what makes so many people I know pompous sounding *******s that think their political viewpoints are balanced?Shutup you racist red neck! Only NPR can get the facts strait!!!


:D

[TUSooner]

Is listening to the pompous sounding *******s under the delusion that their political viewpoints are balanced on NPR what makes so many people I know pompous sounding *******s that think their political viewpoints are balanced?

Probably to the same extent that simpletons who slurp up FoxNews's sensationalist swill think they are getting "fair & balanced" news and thus think their view is the correct one.

I tend to doubt anyone who gets all their news from the same source, or the same type of source. People who only listen to what they want to agree with never gain understanding of anything else. Of course, they usualy don't want to understand anything because they're afraid they might be wrong and their heads would explode. Today's Rush-Becks remind me of the true red communists I used hear back in the day. The common denominator is a nice tidy air-tight ideologcally pure view of the world that disdains anything beyond its pale.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Probably to the same extent that simpletons who slurp up FoxNews's sensationalist swill think they are getting "fair & balanced" news and thus think their view is the correct one.

I tend to doubt anyone who gets all their news from the same source, or the same type of source. People who only listen to what they want to agree with never gain understanding of anything else. Of course, they usualy don't want to understand anything because they're afraid they might be wrong and their heads would explode. Today's Rush-Becks remind me of the true red communists I used hear back in the day. The common denominator is a nice tidy air-tight ideologcally pure view of the world that disdains anything beyond its pale.So, if we don't listen to what you think is fair and balanced, then we're just stupid? Tell me, how many right leaning news channels are there please.

[soonerhubs]

Probably to the same extent that simpletons who slurp up FoxNews's sensationalist swill think they are getting "fair & balanced" news and thus think their view is the correct one.

I tend to doubt anyone who gets all their news from the same source, or the same type of source. People who only listen to what they want to agree with never gain understanding of anything else. Of course, they usualy don't want to understand anything because they're afraid they might be wrong and their heads would explode. Today's Rush-Becks remind me of the true red communists I used hear back in the day. The common denominator is a nice tidy air-tight ideologcally pure view of the world that disdains anything beyond its pale.

Agreed. I used to love Hannity. I read his books and listened to his show religiously a few years back. However, I have since found that although his words "felt" right, they weren't always correct.

Since then I scrutinize every source, including NPR. Heck, there's good reporting on the Foxnews website. I usually open it along with many others, but to say they don't put spin on it, would be a lie.

I do find it amusing that Foxnews.com has a section called Features and Faces that quite often features inappropriate pictures of scantily clad women whilst preaching "Christian Values" on the same page.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I do find it amusing that Foxnews.com has a section called Features and Faces that quite often features inappropriate pictures of scantily clad women whilst preaching "Christian Values" on the same page.Would that not be "fair and balanced"?

[soonerhubs]

Would that not be "fair and balanced"?
:D I suppose...


... and for the Record:

I don't think people who exclusively watch FoxNews are stupid.

I do feel that they are limiting their view point and not gathering all of the facts (or as many as are plausible). I also feel that they are only receiving the information FoxNews deems as relevant and important, and I don't feel that is a very healthy path for making informed decisions at the polls or in life.

I feel that this same philosophy applies to the exclusive listening or watching of NPR, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, PBS, CBS, NBC, BBC, Drudge Report, etc.

[soonerhubs]

What I feel makes NPR unique is that it doesn't depend on commercial advertising for it's functioning. Therefore, the idea is that they're reporting isn't dependent on whether or not conservatives or liberals find a program confirming their already held views or biases.

[Turd_Ferguson]

What I feel makes NPR unique is that it doesn't depend on commercial advertising for it's functioning. Therefore, the idea is that they're reporting isn't dependent on whether or not conservatives or liberals find a program confirming their already held views or biases.I understand your point but, they're not commercialized because the taxpayers make up that money. I just think it's silly that some people think if you watch FOX news, that is all you watch. I get tickled at the people that get so up in arms about FOX..."we report, you decide". Makes sense doesn't it?

[picasso]

Let's see... cable bills, commercial advertising, and an extremely skewed and visceral perspective of the news aligned with the commercial interests of Rupert Murdock.

Yep, I'd say those that watch that network DO pay dearly.

Well no ****. But it's not through tax paying money.
And the left is acting like this is a new low in journalism. They seem to forget Mike Wallace and others.

[Partial Qualifier]

NPR news gets the facts straight, and presents them in an intelligent way. I don't say they are perfectly objective, that might be impossible anyway. But NPR is certainly more objective and vastly more thoughful than, say, Fox News.

NPR News picks their facts, just like Fox News. There are no real differences there.

"BUT YOU GUYS WATCH FOX NEWS!"

"YEAH BUT. BUT... FOX NEWS"

"PEOPLE WHO WATCH FOX NEWS..."

ad nauseum. The existence of Fox News doesn't change the fact NPR is a bastion of snooty liberalism. I stopped listening after the last presidential election. The hosts, the programming... it was nauseating. You would've thought Obama was God, Jesus, Martin Luther King Jr. and Ghandi all rolled into one.

[soonerhubs]

I understand your point but, they're not commercialized because the taxpayers make up that money. I just think it's silly that some people think if you watch FOX news, that is all you watch. I get tickled at the people that get so up in arms about FOX..."we report, you decide". Makes sense doesn't it?

It makes sense, but I feel that if we are truly honest with ourselves, we recognize that bias can never be eliminated, thus it should be made explicit. So I feel that they're failing to give an honest disclosure of their biases.

Heck some are honest. I believe it was James O'Keefe himself who even disclosed his mission to "bring down the left," thus acknowledging his bias, and for that I respect him.

[TUSooner]

So, if we don't listen to what you think is fair and balanced, then we're just stupid? Tell me, how many right leaning news channels are there please.

WTF? Did I say any of that? Way to make a strawman; now go ahead and knock it down. And what's the point of your last question? How many do you want? Need? If there's only one, does that make it better? I'm saying you're better off if you consider a few different sources, because Fox is mostly going to tell you what just you want to hear. Could there be more?

[soonerhubs]

When John Hockenberry or Terry Gross get political, I get annoyed, and they're my least favorite programs. However, I feel that most of them keep an objective lens.

[StoopTroup]

Shutup you racist red neck! Only NPR can get the facts strait!!!


:D

All NPR ever did for me was make me sleepy.

[TUSooner]

Well no ****. But it's not through tax paying money.
And the left is acting like this is a new low in journalism. They seem to forget Mike Wallace and others.

I think you overstate the amount of tax money that funds NPR. Maybe even a penny is too much, I dunno.

But lots of people pay money voluntarily to their NPR stations because they like them and they appreciate the fact that they are not bombarded with commercialsim 24/7, or condemned to hear only "profitable" programming that plays to the lowest common denominator of American society. I also know that lots of smart conservatives & die-hard capitalists listen to NPR. They ("We" OK?) are smart enough to detect BS, but also smart enough to appreciate a calmer and more thoughtful approach to information and programming than the popular sensationalism of other sources. If that's "snooty liberalism" then God Bless It!!

[TUSooner]

All NPR ever did for me was make me sleepy.

Good! That's when you're at your best. :D

[Turd_Ferguson]

I think you overstate the amount of tax money that funds NPR. Maybe even a penny is too much, I dunno.

But lots of people pay money voluntarily to their NPR stations because they like them and they appreciate the fact that they are not bombarded with commercialsim 24/7, or condemned to hear only "profitable" programming that plays to the lowest common denominator of American society. I also know that lots of smart conservatives & die-hard capitalists listen to NPR. They ("We" OK?) are smart enough to detect BS, but also smart enough to appreciate a calmer and more thoughtful approach to information and programming than the popular sensationalism of other sources. If that's "snooty liberalism" then God Bless It!!So, people that don't listen to NPR aren't smart enough to detect BS?

[picasso]

I think you overstate the amount of tax money that funds NPR. Maybe even a penny is too much, I dunno.

But lots of people pay money voluntarily to their NPR stations because they like them and they appreciate the fact that they are not bombarded with commercialsim 24/7, or condemned to hear only "profitable" programming that plays to the lowest common denominator of American society. I also know that lots of smart conservatives & die-hard capitalists listen to NPR. They ("We" OK?) are smart enough to detect BS, but also smart enough to appreciate a calmer and more thoughtful approach to information and programming than the popular sensationalism of other sources. If that's "snooty liberalism" then God Bless It!!

Not at all. NPR themselves are quoted as saying they could make it without tax payer money.

Look, this is a joke. If I heard NPR leaning to the right I would be embarrassed as a quasi-conservative.
I don't have cable so I don't get my NEWS from Fox News. I guess it's just too darned bad I'm not a hard lefter. That way I could just claim that I'm better informed.

[TUSooner]

When John Hockenberry or Terry Gross get political, I get annoyed, and they're my least favorite programs. However, I feel that most of them keep an objective lens.

I don't know Hockenberry, but Gross inspries me to change the channel with all possible speed. She is my best example of the liberal bent that people don't like about NPR.

[TUSooner]

Not at all. NPR themselves are quoted as saying they could make it without tax payer money.

Look, this is a joke. If I heard NPR leaning to the right I would be embarrassed as a quasi-conservative.
I don't have cable so I don't get my NEWS from Fox News. I guess it's just too darned bad I'm not a hard lefter. That way I could just claim that I'm better informed.

Well, it's the internet, so I thought we were supposed to get carried away. :confused: :(

At my age, I take everything with a grain of salt, Fox, NPR, the newspaper, the BBC, whatever, and especially the South Oval. ;)

[picasso]

I really don't care myself but here's one zinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwLPkzgl3uo&feature=player_embedded

[picasso]

At my age, I take everything with a grain of salt, Fox, NPR, the newspaper, the BBC, whatever, and especially the South Oval. ;)

I agree completely.:)

[TUSooner]

So, people that don't listen to NPR aren't smart enough to detect BS?
YES YES YES !!! Exactly! 100% all the time! Now you get it!! Everyone who watches Fox News for as long as 3 minutes is a gullible brainwashed rube, ALL OF YOU, WITHOUT a SINGLE EXCEPTION. I hope you don't require further explanation, now that you know precisely what I mean.


:eek:

[soonerhubs]

I really don't care myself but here's one zinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwLPkzgl3uo&feature=player_embedded

One sound byte does not a radio show make.

[Position Limit]

Fox news should'nt even be mentioned in the same sentence or paragraph as NPR. fox is the burger king of news. NPR is a far superior product.
the guy from NPR was set up. went to lunch with a few guys that said they wanted to donate a bunch of money. they claimed they were from some liberal muslim whatever group. baited the guy into saying a few percieved negative comments about the tea party. comments that are already the public perception of that group of loons.
this guy's job is to raise money. if these guys posed as some ultra conservative donors, then the NPR guys would have gone off on liberals too. but hey, NPR is one of the the repub boogey men and they scored points. i'm sure they will get their moneys worth out of this "scandal".

[picasso]

One sound byte does not a radio show make.

No **** X 2.

I'm giving an example of something that would completely make the left go nut screwy if a reporter claimed that she was glad is was a Latino that did the shooting on a government sponsored radio program.

Is this hard to understand?

[soonerhubs]

No **** X 2.

I'm giving an example of something that would completely make the left go nut screwy if a reporter claimed that she was glad is was a Latino that did the shooting on a government sponsored radio program.

Is this hard to understand?

:rolleyes: So much for civil discourse. Have a good day!

[picasso]

:rolleyes: So much for civil discourse. Have a good day!

How am I uncivil? By saying no ****? Sorry.

No poop? Better?

[soonerhubs]

How am I uncivil? By saying no ****? Sorry.

No poop? Better?

:) No worries pic. You're good peoples! I didn't think that was a reporter. I just thought those were the recorded thoughts of someone they interviewed. Is there a double-standard in the media? Absolutely.

[Whet]

NPR is the most unbiased media outlet in the world! Just ask George Soros, the most evil person in the world!


Juan Williams may be gone from National Public Radio's line-up of commentators, but billionaire liberal icon George Soros has donated $1.8 million to hire 100 new reporters for 50 of its member stations.
The money will go to launch a project called Impact of Government, which Soros' Open Society Foundation says will "bring greater transparency and accountability to the workings of state capitals across the country."
The group, which describes its mission as building "tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens," calls it a response to the decline in news coverage of state legislatures.
"A strong democracy requires a diverse, independent, and highly functioning watchdog press to help people hold the government and private sector accountable," Ann Beeson, executive director of U.S. Programs at the Open Society Foundations, said in a statement earlier this week.

[TitoMorelli]

Nina Totenberg in 1995 said that if there was “retributive justice" in the world, Jesse Helms would “get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.” - still has cushy job at NPR over 15 years later.

Juan Williams admitted that he becomes nervous post-9/11 if, when boarding an airplane, he sees fellow passengers who are in Muslim garb - immediately and unceremoniously dumped. Ms. Schiller then proceeded to attack him, saying he should have kept his Muslim comments between himself and "his psychiatrist or his publicist—take your pick."

[Turd_Ferguson]

YES YES YES !!! Exactly! 100% all the time! Now you get it!! Everyone who watches Fox News for as long as 3 minutes is a gullible brainwashed rube, ALL OF YOU, WITHOUT a SINGLE EXCEPTION. I hope you don't require further explanation, now that you know precisely what I mean.


:eek:It feels good to let it all out...doesn't it...

[Caboose]

I think you overstate the amount of tax money that funds NPR. Maybe even a penny is too much, I dunno.


Yes. Even a penny is too much. There are too many free radio options (and countless more for a nominal fee) to justify spending one cent of taxpayer money to prop up NPR. And I say this without even taking into consideration NPR's obvious political slant and the moral issue of forcing taxpayers to fund political propaganda that they don't agree with. If they cant make it on the free market they should fold, as with any other.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Yes. Even a penny is too much. There are too many free radio options (and countless more for a nominal fee) to justify spending one cent of taxpayer money to prop up NPR. If they cant make it on the free market they should fold, as with any other.Wouldn't matter...all the smart people would donate enough to keep them going.

[Caboose]

Wouldn't matter...all the smart people would donate enough to keep them going.

Let them. According to Shiling they don't need the funding anyway.

[Position Limit]

Yes. Even a penny is too much. There are too many free radio options (and countless more for a nominal fee) to justify spending one cent of taxpayer money to prop up NPR. And I say this without even taking into consideration NPR's obvious political slant and the moral issue of forcing taxpayers to fund political propaganda that they don't agree with. If they cant make it on the free market they should fold, as with any other.

you should be happy that the small taxpayers contribution is there. Think of it as a way to regulate their programming. your head would explode if they had carte blanche to diseminate such liberal political propaganda to a huge swath of built in dedicated listeners on fm radio. there you have it. your boogey man has been debunked. you're welcome.

[TitoMorelli]

you should be happy that the small taxpayers contribution is there. Think of it as a way to regulate their programming. your head would explode if they had carte blanche to diseminate such liberal political propaganda to a huge swath of built in dedicated listeners on fm radio. there you have it. your boogey man has been debunked. you're welcome.

I'm sure that they'd be at least as successful as Air America.

[Turd_Ferguson]

you should be happy that the small taxpayers contribution is there. Think of it as a way to regulate their programming. your head would explode if they had carte blanche to diseminate such liberal political propaganda to a huge swath of built in dedicated listeners on fm radio. there you have it. your boogey man has been debunked. you're welcome.I don't see **** debunked and from your post I've learned you don't know **** about ****. There you have it. Your welcome.

[Caboose]

you should be happy that the small taxpayers contribution is there. Think of it as a way to regulate their programming. your head would explode if they had carte blanche to diseminate such liberal political propaganda to a huge swath of built in dedicated listeners on fm radio. there you have it. your boogey man has been debunked. you're welcome.

Apparently your feeble mind cant grasp the basic point. I dont give a **** what liberal propaganda they "desiminate" as long as they do it on their own dime.

[TUSooner]

Nina Totenberg in 1995 said that if there was “retributive justice" in the world, Jesse Helms would “get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.” - still has cushy job at NPR over 15 years later.

Juan Williams admitted that he becomes nervous post-9/11 if, when boarding an airplane, he sees fellow passengers who are in Muslim garb - immediately and unceremoniously dumped. Ms. Schiller then proceeded to attack him, saying he should have kept his Muslim comments between himself and "his psychiatrist or his publicist—take your pick."

Regardless of her politics, Nina Totenberg is a very good legal reporter. She can explain what a Supreme Court ruling is really about, including the procedural context, without framing every holding as it as a simplistic political statement.


Jesse Helms was pretty much a hypocritical spiteful woooooshbag.

Juan Williams got screwed.

[TUSooner]

I don't see **** debunked and from your post I've learned you don't know **** about ****. There you have it. Your welcome.

"His" welcome?
Huh?! See, FoxNews comprehensively degrades your intelligence, even your grammar and usage skills, you gullible brainwashed rube! Turd, if you'd listen NPR News for just 5 minutes a day your IQ would double, all the way up to 70 !!


:P :D

[TitoMorelli]

Regardless of her politics, Nina Totenberg is a very good legal reporter. She can explain what a Supreme Court ruling is really about, including the procedural context, without framing every holding as it as a simplistic political statement.


Jesse Helms was pretty much a hypocritical spiteful woooooshbag.

Juan Williams got screwed.

So I guess it's okay for TV/radio personalities to wish cancer or AIDS on public figures (or their grandchildren), so long as said figure is a wooooshbag. Gotcha.

[sappstuf]

New Video from another NPR Exec..

They were more than willing to take a $5 million dollar donation from a Muslim group and hide it all from the government..

It's also becoming clear why Schiller was let go as well.


Following their phone calls, Liley checked with NPR’s senior management, and sent an e-mail to the man posing as Kasaam saying MEAC was cleared to make an anonymous donation of $5 million.

“NPR can list MEAC as an anonymous donor in our database, which would mean we would not disclose the organization’s name,” Liley wrote in the e-mail to the fictitious Kasaam. “We do not publish a list of gifts, so it would not be an issue there.”

Liley’s e-mail addressed the MEAC representatives’ concerns about government audits: “The audits of our governmental grants are conducted by the same firm we hire to do our NPR financial audit.”

Liley wrote that she’s “awaiting a draft of a gift agreement from our legal counsel and will share it when I have it.”

That e-mail directly contradicts NPR’s public statements issued in the wake of O’Keefe’s first video. “The fraudulent organization represented in this video repeatedly pressed us to accept a $5 million check, with no strings attached, which we repeatedly refused to accept,” NPR spokeswoman Dana Davis Rehm said in NPR’s official response.

The new video shows recently ousted NPR Chief Executive Vivian Schiller knew of her subordinates’ meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood front group.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/10/new-video-npr-was-going-to-accept-muslim-education-action-center-donation-and-hide-it-from-the-government/#ixzz1GEoeANVj

[sappstuf]

So I guess it's okay for TV/radio personalities to wish cancer or AIDS on public figures (or their grandchildren), so long as said figure is a wooooshbag. Gotcha.

It helps when that public figure is a Repub, but yes you are on the right track.

[TUSooner]

So I guess it's okay for TV/radio personalities to wish cancer or AIDS on public figures (or their grandchildren), so long as said figure is a wooooshbag. Gotcha.

You said that; I didn't. And I bet you crossed your arms and stuck your lip out in a pouty face when you did it.

Do you know what "straw man argument" is? It's a disreputable rhetorical device by which one falsely attributes some hideous & nasty opinion or position to an adversary and then proceeds to attack what has been falsely attributed. It's a subset of "making stuff up."

If you google it, you'll find that it is "an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To 'attack a straw man' is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the 'straw man'), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position."

It's a popular device among angry, inarticulate people who have a hard time thinking.

[StoopTroup]

i thought the Strawman was in the last Batman.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yhbOEDI3vqc/SoWL1rgbsYI/AAAAAAAAAMI/-AdukoegKSk/s400/Strawman+(light).jpg

[DIB]

i thought the Strawman was in the last Batman.

http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/images/Strawman-motivational.jpg

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/hotlink.jpg

[Dio]

George Soros has donated $1.8 million to hire 100 new reporters for 50 of its member stations.

Well, I'm totally convinced NPR isn't biased now!

[TitoMorelli]

You said that; I didn't. And I bet you crossed your arms and stuck your lip out in a pouty face when you did it.

Do you know what "straw man argument" is? It's a disreputable rhetorical device by which one falsely attributes some hideous & nasty opinion or position to an adversary and then proceeds to attack what has been falsely attributed. It's a subset of "making stuff up."

If you google it, you'll find that it is "an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To 'attack a straw man' is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the 'straw man'), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position."

It's a popular device among angry, inarticulate people who have a hard time thinking.


Do you know what a "straw man post" is? It's when someone has backed himself into a corner with an earlier poorly thought out post, has been called out on it, and now must make empty claims that the person who called him out is using a fallacious argument.

Related: see "racist", etc.

[cccasooner2]

Do you know what "straw man argument" is?

A little like a Plato dialog and a lot like playing chess against oneself.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What I feel makes NPR unique is that it doesn't depend on commercial advertising for it's functioning. Therefore, the idea is that they're reporting isn't dependent on whether or not conservatives or liberals find a program confirming their already held views or biases.This is a joke, right? you need a smiley, or it's not viable. ie. just how naive are you?

[TUSooner]

Do you know what a "straw man post" is? It's when someone has backed himself into a corner with an earlier poorly thought out post, has been called out on it, and now must make empty claims that the person who called him out is using a fallacious argument.

Related: see "racist", etc.

Not even a nice try, that. :rolleyes:

[soonerhubs]

This is a joke, right? you need a smiley, or it's not viable. ie. just how naive are you?

Coming from a guy that quotes Ann Coulter and claims to be a clone to Rush Limbaugh, I consider you calling me naive comedy gold.

Also, aren't you the one that would copy and paste bogus stories that "felt right" or "made sense" even when they were complete and utter crap? Spare me the lecture on naivety.

[OUthunder]

She needed to go, she was such a far left zealot that NPR didn't even want her.

[jkjsooner]

We don't pay for Fox News. That's the thing bro.

That's the problem with Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN. They have to turn a profit and that means appealing to the lowest common denominator by over-sensationalizing everything.

That's also why the BBC is far superior to our network news. Since their TV users have to pay a subscriber fee, they're not beholden to viewers and ratings and therefore don't suffer the sensationalistic fate of our networks.

[jkjsooner]

Coming from a guy that quotes Ann Coulter and claims to be a clone to Rush Limbaugh, I consider you calling me naive comedy gold.

Also, aren't you the one that would copy and paste bogus stories that "felt right" or "made sense" even when they were complete and utter crap? Spare me the lecture on naivety.

Clone does that and just sort of disappears from the thread when the information in his links are inevitably proved false.

[47straight]

That's the problem with Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN. They have to turn a profit and that means appealing to the lowest common denominator by over-sensationalizing everything.

That's also why the BBC is far superior to our network news. Since their TV users have to pay a subscriber fee, they're not beholden to viewers and ratings and therefore don't suffer the sensationalistic fate of our networks.

All that really means is that they're free to pursue their own distorted and biased view without any accountability.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Coming from a guy that quotes Ann Coulter and claims to be a clone to Rush Limbaugh, I consider you calling me naive comedy gold.

Also, aren't you the one that would copy and paste bogus stories that "felt right" or "made sense" even when they were complete and utter crap? Spare me the lecture on naivety.Can't read either? I don't claim to be a clone of Rush Limbaugh. I confess to pasting some stories I like. You can snope them or whatever you want, if you think that as the ultimate source for what's correct.

My point was that if you think since NPR and/or PBS don't take in as much advertising money as a commercial network, that somehow prevents them from being biased in their reporting is either naive or something else is wrong with the analysis.

I enjoyed that you thought my quoting Ann Coulter makes me naive.

[soonerhubs]

Can't read either? I don't claim to be a clone of Rush Limbaugh. I confess to pasting some stories I like. You can snope them or whatever you want, if you think that as the ultimate source for what's correct.

My point was that if you think since NPR and/or PBS don't take in as much advertising money as a commercial network, that somehow prevents them from being biased in their reporting is either naive or something else is wrong with the analysis.

I enjoyed that you thought my quoting Ann Coulter makes me naive.

Pardon me. Apparently he is a YOUR clone. Based on my understanding that a clone is usually a lesser of the original in various capacities, it just doesn't fit with what I've read from you, so you'll have to pardon my apparent cognitive dissonance. Also, perhaps you could explain the message and intent of quoting Ms. Coulter's words against women's suffrage. I'm apparently too naive to understand the transcendental vernacular that you and Ann so masterfully produce at any given moment.

Hyperbolic Rant: Okay, I get it! Most of you folks are convinced come hell or high-water that everyone and anyone associated with NPR must be a liberal elitist bastard who hates America and will kill people to save trees.
End of hyperbolic Rant.

As someone who takes a conservative view on many aspects of politics and life, but who still loves to stay well informed, I hold the programming at NPR to be the least biased of all the programming available. Is it perfect? No. Do those who work there have biases? I should hope so, because they are human, but I feel those biases are limited in the reporting. Agree or disagree. That's your prerogative.

I will say this though. In my field there are times when the greatest advances and opportunities for advances in research, practice, and theory occur because one lets their work be scrutinized by those who have opposing views regarding their conclusions and theories on a topic.

In the field of politics, I'm finding that most of this scrutiny is either ignored or ridiculed by various news outlets, which is fine if they aren't the exclusive news source of that individual. However, I have observed friends and family who will only watch one news source, thus taking in the streams of confirmation biases that I feel limit our capacity to think critically. I feel that listening to a variety of networks enhances our world view, and I find NPR to be an extremely valuable part of those networks.

Although I surmise that some of you have actually given NPR an honest shot and hated it, I'm also convinced many of you have not. I challenge you to listen to it for a while and give it a try. I promise, it won't kill you.

[TitoMorelli]

Not even a nice try, that. :rolleyes:

Yeah, that's the usual follow-up after the "straw man post" has been deep-sixed.

[StoopTroup]

Yeah, that's the usual follow-up after the "straw man post" has been deep-sixed.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Damn Boy! Dats da funniest damn **** I ever heard Bro! You whack! He don probs no wat to say now.....

Bwahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

[soonerhubs]

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Damn Boy! Dats da funniest damn **** I ever heard Bro! You whack! He don probs no wat to say now.....

Bwahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Heh!

[TheHumanAlphabet]

NPR gets a bad rap on the SO, probably because most posters don't actually listen to NPR but only parrot the opinion of NPR that Rush-Beck-Fox tells them to have. NPR news gets the facts straight, and presents them in an intelligent way. I don't say they are perfectly objective, that might be impossible anyway. But NPR is certainly more objective and vastly more thoughful than, say, Fox News. Assuming that NPR is to the left of center, they generally show more respect when reporting the right's viewpoint that Fox does when mocking the left. That said, I'm not too crazy about some other NPR shows.

TU, I so vigorously disagree with you on this...

They are extremely biased, not at all objective. I stopped listening to them when they purged/pogrommed Juan Williams. They would have way more good stories on the liberals vs. bad stories on conservatives. I wish we would stop subsidizing them. They are not the face of factual news, their true colors are clearly evident now.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Wouldn't matter...all the smart people would donate enough to keep them going.

Then that would be different. Only my money wouldn't be supporting them stealthily through my taxes.

[StoopTroup]

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